Adsl In Japan
(Click here to view the original thread with full colors/images)Posted by: ilw
With BT set to launch its new 1Mbps Asymmetric Digital Subscriber Line (ADSL) broadband net service on 20 November, it is worth taking a moment to consider just how broad the UK's band really is.
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The more important issue is whether British internet users are being sold short. After all, a speed boost of 512kbps is no great shakes, especially when you consider that you will be lucky to get half of that when network congestion and distance from the telephone exchange are factored in.
Here in Japan, ADSL is a firmly established technology, with the locally owned arm of Yahoo, called Yahoo BB, the market-leading net service provider.
This summer, Yahoo BB signed up its three millionth customer for services running at eight and 12Mbps.
For the last year, it has been nigh on impossible to take a stroll in the capital without being asked, "Yahoo BB wa ikaga desu ka? (How about Yahoo BB?)," by one of Mr Son's army of street salespeople ready to sign you up and send you on your way with an ADSL modem in a bag.
According to the IEEE, you could get over 50Mbps, theoretically, if your loop is less than one kilometre. In Japan, NTT has put a fibre feeder point within a kilometre of 80% of locations
Now, with the latest tranche of upgrades taking the maximum download speed to a blazing 26Mbps - remember, this is still over standard telephone lines, just like in the UK - one can be forgiven for wondering why BT and its competitors are languishing in the slow lane.
Japanese surfers clearly have a good deal. Yahoo BB's 26Mbps package costs just 3,838 yen, or about £20 per month, which is around £10 cheaper than the new BT deal.
The Japanese package includes modem rental, the service provider fee, and a subscription to the company's IP (Internet Protocol) phone service, BBPhone, offering dirt-cheap phone calls.
For an extra 1,000 yen, there is a wireless LAN pack available. On top of all that, the whole caboodle is free for the first three months.
Another factor worth noting concerns the set-up procedure.
There is no taking an afternoon off work and waiting around for an engineer to do something mysterious with your phone socket.
With Yahoo BB, it is a simple plug-and-play affair. Connect the ADSL modem to your computer, run the supplied software (Windows, Mac or Linux) and that is it.
"There will be an increasing emphasis on fibre optic connections with higher bandwidth than DSL, but that seems like a 2004 to 2005 story to us."
If UK surfers are lucky, we might see an entrepreneur like Masayoshi Son do an Abramovich and inject a little life into the ADSL market, but do not hold your breath.
Umm free modems, instant access, free for 3 months and lets not forget 52x faster broadband than what we have for less money?????? goddamnit!
Source (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3278375.stm)
Posted by: Livy
thats the uk for you, the 26mbs one sounds fine. :D
if my calculations are right, u can download a 700mb iso in under 4 minutes. :blink: :(
Posted by: DarthInsinuate
:angry: England smells - Japan also had video mobile phones ages ago
Posted by: Kunal
Originally posted by DarthInsinuate@19 November 2003 - 13:50
:angry: England smells - Japan also had video mobile phones ages ago
it doesnt smell, it sucks.... so do video mobiles (there huge!)
Posted by: DarthInsinuate
Originally posted by Kunal@19 November 2003 - 15:58
so do video mobiles (there huge!)
not in Japan they're not
Posted by: Kunal
Originally posted by DarthInsinuate+19 November 2003 - 16:37--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DarthInsinuate @ 19 November 2003 - 16:37)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Kunal@19 November 2003 - 15:58
so do video mobiles (there huge!)
not in Japan they're not [/b][/quote]
dam england :angry:
Posted by: RedRival
not to say Japan is a densely populated country in a small area, they can have lines running through every location of Japan and will not have any 'rural' regions...therefore companies are more competitive...and I believe in a technologically well-off country such as Japan there won't be anymore oblivious net users who sign up on a 56k connection on AOL like some Americans do :lol: and therefore with competitiveness, comes efficiency...yes the power of the economics framework.
Posted by: nanotek
lets all move to japan :P
Posted by: vivitron 15
Originally posted by nanotek@19 November 2003 - 18:09
lets all move to japan :P
im just trying to book some tickets :D
Posted by: DarthInsinuate
Originally posted by vivitron 15+19 November 2003 - 20:50--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (vivitron 15 @ 19 November 2003 - 20:50)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-nanotek@19 November 2003 - 18:09
lets all move to japan :P
im just trying to book some tickets :D[/b][/quote]
if we lived in Japan we'll probably have got hold of some tickets already, and only pay half the price - their planes would be faster too <_<
Posted by: mark845
Originally posted by DarthInsinuate+19 November 2003 - 22:16--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DarthInsinuate @ 19 November 2003 - 22:16)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by vivitron 15@19 November 2003 - 20:50
<!--QuoteBegin-nanotek@19 November 2003 - 18:09
lets all move to japan* :P
im just trying to book some tickets :D
if we lived in Japan we'll probably have got hold of some tickets already, and only pay half the price - their planes would be faster too <_< [/b][/quote]
yeah and trains would faster to :lol: :lol: :lol:
Posted by: {I}{K}{E}
I'm still happy with my cable connection :P
I sometimes get movies within a hour :D
Posted by: Smith
hmm subscribing 2 dl copyrighted goods, isnt that a tad alot illegal?and couldnt fines of 250000 or more be placed immediatly?
Posted by: mooseman2070
man if im happy getting movies around 50k a second then id be happy with at least 100k
Posted by: Keikan
Originally posted by mark845+19 November 2003 - 15:15--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (mark845 @ 19 November 2003 - 15:15)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by DarthInsinuate@19 November 2003 - 22:16
Originally posted by vivitron 15@19 November 2003 - 20:50
<!--QuoteBegin-nanotek@19 November 2003 - 18:09
lets all move to japan* :P
im just trying to book some tickets :D
if we lived in Japan we'll probably have got hold of some tickets already, and only pay half the price - their planes would be faster too <_<
yeah and trains would faster to :lol: :lol: :lol: [/b][/quote]
They have really fast trains like instead of a greyhound people take trains
Posted by: Jay
Originally posted by mooseman2070@19 November 2003 - 18:53
man if im happy getting movies around 50k a second then id be happy with at least 100k
how about 200k a second
Posted by: InverseKinetix
This is really funny
I posted in another thread and people said i was talking shit cos I said I have 100MB connection in Japan and I had a video phone.
http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/en/bflets.html
http://foma.nttdocomo.co.jp/english/term/p2102v_02.html
Japan is great, all the best technology is here. I wouldnt live anywhere else.
How much is a 1MB connection in the UK now?
Posted by: SciManAl
1 mb in us is ok priced (for my buisness which happens to be at home :P )
i get a T1 at $40 a month (same as AOL wow ) :P , ditch AOl and get T1 intresting!
Posted by: DarthInsinuate
Originally posted by InverseKinetix@20 November 2003 - 16:28
How much is a 1MB connection in the UK now?
AFAIK its just under £30, stupid Japanese getting fast connections for nothing, gits
Posted by: Mavol
Originally posted by SciManAl@20 November 2003 - 17:54
1 mb in us is ok priced (for my buisness which happens to be at home :P )
i get a T1 at $40 a month (same as AOL wow ) :P , ditch AOl and get T1 intresting!
cable where i live, costs like in $ around 45
damn, your all still very lucky ;)
Posted by: DWk
nopes nothing compares to Guatemala....here where i live.....
u get 128kbps ADSL for 70 a month..... also cable.... other technologies are really expensive....
if u try to get 1mb...it would cost you A LOT :(
Posted by: mooseman2070
Originally posted by Jay+20 November 2003 - 08:21--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Jay @ 20 November 2003 - 08:21)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-mooseman2070@19 November 2003 - 18:53
man if im happy getting movies around 50k a second then id be happy with at least 100k
how about 200k a second [/b][/quote]
sounds good 2 me. really good