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Posted by: jetje

I'm a bit fast asking this (the team hasn't spoken about it yet) but if i see some pages nowadays some have more links and closed topics, as normal topics. Think we need to think about that.
Please no spamming this just real opinions. B)



Posted by: Mivaro

I think move it and delete the old topic. Maybe there should be a message that it's moved from A to B ?(in the new location that is...)



Posted by: FuNkY CaPrIcOrN

;) I think you should leave a link...alot easier for people to find it.



Posted by: jetje

Originally posted by Mivaro@15 February 2003 - 11:49
I think move it and delete the old topic. Maybe there should be a message that it's moved from A to B ?(in the new location that is...)
that's the read arrow we leave now, a sign the topic is moved... But we have lot's of em nowadays...



Posted by: smellycat

How about

Leave the link for an hour.

Then remove the link.

This could be automated.



Posted by: sim one

I say remove the link, whats the point in leaving it up?
You just get the same topic in two places.



Posted by: Yusuke

I think move and delete is good, that way the moved arrow placeholders won't interfere with actual threads in a given forum



Posted by: Bender

I like the links to stay, because if it's moved between your first and second visit there's a possibility you can't find it anymore.

But then again, if it was off-topic it should be easy to figure out to where it was moved.



Posted by: vivitron 15

Move and delete... i was just thinking about suggestin it.

i find nothing more annoying than going to a page, and seeing a whole column of moved items. if you're gonna leave a link, then you may as well just leave the post there. this way people might start to try to post in the right place.

also, if someone really wants to find a topic they found before, they can either

1. search

2. do the track this topic thing.



Posted by: Mivaro

Originally posted by jetje@15 February 2003 - 12:53
that's the read arrow we leave now, a sign the topic is moved... But we have lot's of em nowadays...
I mean, in the moved thread a post that's it's been moved from section A to section B..



Posted by: jetje

aha B) yeah sometimes we do but not always....



Posted by: smellycat

I think you should have a link to the moved post for a certain length of time so that the posters will know that the topic has been moved and they will know where it has been moved to.

I think after that the length of time you should then delete the link, to clean up the board.

If you just move the threads with no link you're going to get new posts in the forum such as :

:angry: w.t.f. Everytime I post here my posts disappear. What crappy software are you running?  :angry:

:ph34r: Help!! I think TRX are stealing my posts  :ph34r:



Posted by: Mivaro

Originally posted by smellycat@15 February 2003 - 13:55
I think you should have a link to the  moved post for a certain length of time so that the posters will know that the topic has been moved and they will know where it has been moved to.

I think after that the length of time you should then delete the link, to clean up the board.

Yeah, i guess you're right about that...


:ph34r: Help!! I think TRX are stealing my posts  :ph34r:
:lol: :lol:



Posted by: jetje

that's a bit were i'm afraid of to, but hey those we just delete :lol:

no serious that's a tough one...



Posted by: J'Pol

Leave the link but delete the thread.

Cheers

JimF

PS I know you are going to delete this post Jet, and rightly so, I just couldn't help saying it.



Posted by: Curley

I say either leave the link, so people can follow that, or move the thread and delete the link but pm the original poster so he/she dosn't think it's been deleted completely.

Hope that makes sense!



Posted by: [B][O][T]

Just move and delete the original.



Posted by: Shinigami_[R.I.P.]

Originally posted by Curley@15 February 2003 - 05:51
I say either leave the link, so people can follow that, or move the thread and delete the link but pm the original poster so he/she dosn't think it's been deleted completely.

Hope that makes sense!
I agree with Curley.



Posted by: Benno

Move and delete the original one this will keep the board clean.



Posted by: ugluk

if its in the wrong section; just delete it! no moving just trash it. and ban the jerk who posted wrong! and everyone who replyed to it! :lol:

ok. seriously move the thread and delete the link, and just as Curley said notify the one who started the thread where it went.



Posted by: gumbydancin

I don't browse every section, and those links are pretty handy. I guess you can use the search function to find a post if it's been moved, but I think you'll see that in some cases, after moving a post, you'll get a lot less responses to it. If it needs to be done though, via con dios.



Posted by: El_Jefe

I used to alway leave a link to a moved topic, but now, I sort of play it by ear, based on the person that started the topic.

If it's a question by some one new, I'll usually leave a link. If it's some one with an attitude or just some general bitching, or clearly the poster didn't even give a damn about posting in the correct area, then I move it without a link. And if it's a member that should know better, I move it without a link.



Posted by: KinXen

I say just leave it the way we have been doing it. Cause if you move it and then delete the origanal, people will think that it got deleted and that one person did a crime in it or something. So... theres my 3 cents.


Note: Notice I said 3, that means you must obay me! For I am "Da B*tch"

Note: Another inside joke



Posted by: Skweeky

I too think that it might be a good idea to leave the link there for a couple of hours and then delete it. Deleting right away may cause some problems. eg. questions as 'why did u delete my topic' etc...



Posted by: smellycat

If you've got a number of people replying to a thread before it's moved
do you PM them as well?

Just leave the link for a short while and then delete it.



Posted by: Nobody1234

I think the links need to stay. And PM the thread starter about wrong posting. If someone continues to post in the wrong area (like after second warning) start deleting the threads altogether.



Posted by: Rocko

Maybe Move the topic, delete the old and send a email notification of the moved topic or a PM

Rocko



Posted by: KinXen

Lets say that it has 1300 replies... Do you pm everybody?



Posted by: Rocko

Originally posted by NeoShoyru@15 February 2003 - 14:08
Lets say that it has 1300 replies... Do you pm everybody?
Of course only to the one that starts the topic.

Rocko



Posted by: KinXen

But what if everyone thinks that its been deleted then? Then it will still bring up questions...



Posted by: jetje

What if... What if. Maybe people need to start thinkin'"Hey it's not here, where is it" and start lookin' in another forum. ;)



Posted by: The Great Dude

There is always a "what if", but Rocko's suggestion seems good, but what happens if a newbie doesn't know what's a PM? ;)



Posted by: CornerPocket

Originally posted by jetje@15 February 2003 - 13:32
What if... What if. Maybe people need to start thinkin'"Hey it's not here, where is it" and start lookin' in another forum.  ;)
but not all will.... if they did we'd have the cleanest board on the net :lol:

I've placed a suggestion in the Mod's forum, if applicable, maybe it will be done, just have to wait and see what VB says.

Suggestion posted:

"If possible, move the topic with a link to the new location and have the board automatically removed the link after let's say 5 days or so. That would give the original poster plenty of time 'I hope' to acknowledge any replies and hopefully notice the new location of the moved topic. At the same time the board is kept clean. This is just a brainstorming idea I planted for the Mod's - Admin's to ponder on.............. :rolleyes:

feedback??



Posted by: smellycat

Totally agree with you CornerPocket. :D

But 5 days is too long. Most threads have disappeared in 5 days, so it's pointless deleting the link.

Perhaps a few hours is all you need.



Posted by: KinXen

Naw, I say 5 days... What if you post a topic and then you fall asleep in the toilet... Then within a few hours, your topic will be moved and you wont know about it... Plus within a few MORE hours, you would be dead, so who would care?



Posted by: Nobody1234

A few hours is too short and 5 days is too long. How about 36 hours so that if some user looks back every day around the same time he/she will see it was moved.



Posted by: Soul814

u should remove link since it takes up space... dont know how much space you have but still.... leave it for a week i guess?



Posted by: BROCKSTER

yer no need for the link they can just search theres user name if its really hard to find



Posted by: smellycat

I've just looked at the last three pages of each forum/section.

Apart from "About our Website..." and "Filesharing" the total number of threads moved in the three pages was 0 - 4.

In "About our Website..." the total number of threads moved was 17.
This covered a period of approx 9 days.
Thats about 2 moved per day.
Each page is about 3 days.

In "Filesharing". the total number of threads moved was 22.
This covered a period of approx 3 days.
Thats about 7 moved per day.
Each page is about 1 day.

Time to delete a link to a moved thread could be section-dependent.
Or position-dependent.
How about if a link to moved thread reaches page 2 then it gets deleted.


yer no need for the link they can just search theres user name if its really hard to find
Unless your name is F.C. :lol:



Posted by: dirtyoldman

i think leaving a link for 48 hr. is enough.if they havn't figured it's moved by then they probebly forgot were it was anyway.i forget where i've posted 2 hrs later :)
probebly old age :blink: still haven't gotten gray stars yet? :lol:



Posted by: RPerry

I agree that 5 days is too long, something between 24-48 hrs should be fine.



Posted by: Siras

Well it would be alot easier to leave the link cause there would be quicker to find out where the topic has moved to and if people can see where the topic is moved to then the should learn what thread is for what topic so then they wont make the same mistake twice thats just my opion



Posted by: El_Jefe

Just some additional info for some of the members that posted earlier in the thread. When moving a topic, on this forum, we have two choices, with a link or without a link.

Moving with a link, doesn't create an additional post, it just leaves a link topic( for lack of a better term). When selected, you get transferred to the new location. Moving without a link, well.........moves it without leaving a link. :)
Just wanted to clear that up, if there was any confusion or misconceptions.



Posted by: Yusuke

I think 5 days is too long too, like others said, in that amount of time it'll get pushed down a page or 2 by other threads anyway...
24-48 hours sounds better



Posted by: tilen76

No need for a link.

Can't we use "View new posts" option. It will list your moved topic no matter in which section it is.
I know I use that option. The only two sections I check separately are "About our website and this forum" and "Lounge" in the morning when I wake up and catch up on things.

So what's the point of having the link then? Just use the "View new posts" option and you will find your section.

;)

edit: typo. it's still early for me :blink:



Posted by: CornerPocket

Sounds great that eveyone is voicing their opinions, hopefully in time we can come up with lets say the top 2-3 most suggested options, see if there are workable w/VB, if so place a voting for best solution via a "Poll". B)

Hey FC, another Poll whaddya think? :lol: :D :lol:



Posted by: tracydani

Skipped pages 2 + 3, but I say move and delete. Like others said, you'll just have more double posts.

Wouldn't this add to the data traffic for the forum?



Posted by: RDanneskjold

I say Move and Delete
But also maybe with one of these ideas/options (not necessarily all)

Ideas/Options:

***** A PM can be sent to the original poster of the link, or
******posters that have posted in that topic that the topic was
******moved.

******An indication can be displayed in the poster's View New
******Posts in a "Moved Topic" area.

******A new heading can be clicked on, ie. where My Controls,
******My Assistant, View New Posts headings are.

******A pinned thread can be made of "Moved Topics" for each
******area. ie Filesharing....Development...etc., where anyone
******who can't understand where the topic went, or are searching
******for the moved topic can find it.


Some of these maybe good ideas. We'll have to see what the Mods
think about em.
Maybe they can spark some ideas in other members.
:)

Any other ideas or thoughts on this?, All Members, and Mods? :D


Edit: Grammar



Posted by: mobboss01

I agree on leaving a temporary link so that we can find it. It is true that if the poster hasn't located it in a reasonable time then they have forgotten about it. Plus if you reply to a post, then you can just look at my last ten posts.



Posted by: Barbarossa

Move and Delete :)



Posted by: ToraBoraDweller

Other option make new pinned with bold caps
: IS YOUR TOPIC MOVED?
collect them in a new to be made section moved topics
and let them sort it out for themselves
(that will teach them!) :lol:



Posted by: RDanneskjold

Originally posted by ToraBoraDweller@19 February 2003 - 05:35
Other option make new pinned with bold caps
: IS YOUR TOPIC MOVED?
collect them in a new to be made section moved topics
and let them sort it out for themselves
(that will teach them!) :lol:
Thats pretty much what I already said :)

A pinned thread can be made of "Moved Topics" for each
      area. ie Filesharing....Development...etc., where anyone
      who can't understand where the topic went, or are searching
      for the moved topic can find it.


;)



Posted by: ToraBoraDweller

sorrry credits go to you
just overread it somehow ;but should't all those items go to 1
single section? We should strive to keep this board navigatable
= not too many subsections ? :)



Posted by: RDanneskjold

It's an idea :) I see what you mean about having too many subsections ...but it might be more easy to track and follow if each room has it's own....so its not all mixed up :huh: ...let's see what the MODs think? :)



Posted by: SideSwiped

May as well move the topic and delete the link. However, like Curly said, PM the originator. Also, whynot just post a notice within, that the topic will be moved to such and such within 24 or whatever hours. The PM gives the originator notice and notice within the topic to be moved would give fair warning to all who would wish to post a reply. :blink:






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