Risks In Overclocking
(Click here to view the original thread with full colors/images)Posted by: Keikan
I read somewhere that if you overclock you processer, and if you wait a while the processer will just suddenly die. Now I'm gonna buy a 2500+ and I know all you out there who overclock it 3200+ (thats some great ass deal huh?) sooo.. here's my questions and concerns
1. Should i overclock my new-holy-shit-I-had-to-wait-a-year-for-this 2500+?
2. Which heatsink is better? Thermaltake 9 or Zalman flower CNPS3100-Plus
Posted by: bigdawgfoxx
Just buy the retail CPU and you get a very nice heatsink with it. I got mine to 3200 Speeds running 45 Full load. Stock heatsink is GREAT.
I put an 80mm fan on my heatsink though for the hell of it...didnt make any difference at all really..lol
Overclock, overclock, overclock lol
As long as your temps arent too high it shouldnt have much affect on the life of it really..3 years warranty anywayz..and hell if something happens and they wont give u a new one...its only 90 bux
Posted by: SciManAl
clear
Posted by: Keikan
the 11 is so pricey tho
Posted by: clocker
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@15 February 2004 - 16:05
Just buy the retail CPU and you get a very nice heatsink with it. I got mine to 3200 Speeds running 45 Full load. Stock heatsink is GREAT.
AMD ships a number of heatsinks with their chips...some are very nice ( the thin finned, skived ones with the copper slug) and some are not.
Currently, I believe that the Thermalright SP series are considered the air-cooling Kings of the Hill.
As far as whether or not you should OC your chip, it depends.
I'm sure that ultimately there is a price to pay, you might try it and see if you notice a difference in your normal, day-to-day use.
Posted by: Keikan
it seems like there's a difference between 2500+ and 3200+
Posted by: abu_has_the_power
get the sp-97 with a tornado. u're temps will be low as fuk, and ur ears will soon go deaf. lol. so get a fan controller too
Posted by: SciManAl
clear
Posted by: Keikan
Well I think there would be an obvious difference between 2500+ and 3200+ don't you agree? they have a huge price difference
Posted by: SciManAl
clear
Posted by: abu_has_the_power
Originally posted by SciManAl@15 February 2004 - 19:40
you may want to provide a link to that abu...
www.thermalright.com
click on Amd Heatsink, then SP-97.
not that hard
Posted by: Keikan
Originally posted by SciManAl@15 February 2004 - 18:46
Well I think there would be an obvious difference between 2500+ and 3200+ don't you agree? they have a huge price difference
only if you get that far... your set up might only get it to 2800+ ya never know just try it.. slow and steady... as your cooling permits go on up..
I guess, I probably won't overclock for a couple of months because I will be too busy playing games :P
Posted by: Mr. Elmo
y woudl u oc the 2500, its fast enuf....and coming from a 400mhz cpu, i think you shoudl see big enuf of a difference.
i dont get why most ppl want to oc...maybe just so they can brag about it. i mean the speed isnt going to be that much more noticable unless u do benchmark. btu for regualr day stuff, its gonna be the same
Posted by: Keikan
People say I'll see a difference from the 400mhz and the 2500+ but that's not comparable because the 400mhz can't run the games the 2500+ can. Myabe I'll see a 100fps in Counter Stike no?
Posted by: DWk
Originally posted by Mr. Elmo@15 February 2004 - 18:34
y woudl u oc the 2500, its fast enuf....and coming from a 400mhz cpu, i think you shoudl see big enuf of a difference.
i dont get why most ppl want to oc...maybe just so they can brag about it. i mean the speed isnt going to be that much more noticable unless u do benchmark. btu for regualr day stuff, its gonna be the same
First of all (and I'm amazed no one has actually said anything about this), there are 2 different 2500+ processors:
The Barton 2500+ FSB: 333
The Barton 2500+ FSB: 266
I haven't seen any 400FSB 2500+, so if you can point me to one, I'll stand corrected :blink:
Posted by: Keikan
I never seen a 266
Posted by: RGX
Also, arn't the new bartons locked to prevent beng pushed to 3.2? Or am i misinformed?
Posted by: DWk
NewEgg (http://www.newegg.com)
;)
Posted by: Livy
Originally posted by DWk@16 February 2004 - 01:50
First of all (and I'm amazed no one has actually said anything about this), there are 2 different 2500+ processors:
The Barton 2500+ FSB: 333
The Barton 2500+ FSB: 266
I haven't seen any 400FSB 2500+, so if you can point me to one, I'll stand corrected* :blink:
the 2500-266 isnt a barton is it? isnt it just a thourghbred?
the only 400fsb ive seen is the 3000 and 3200
edit: newegg dont even have a 2500-266
edit2: infact the 2500 and everything above it have 333fsb, apart from 3000 nd 3200 which also have 400fsb variants
Posted by: DWk
Originally posted by Livy@15 February 2004 - 20:04
the 2500-266 isnt a barton is it? isnt it just a thourghbred?
the only 400fsb ive seen is the 3000 and 3200
edit: newegg dont even have a 2500-266
I guess the Search function is too l33t for all of yous :rolleyes:
here (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?DEPA=0&submit=Go&description=2500%2B)
And no. I'm not talking about the L2 Cache size.... I'm talking about the FSB. That is the difference between Barton and T-bred. Barton is 512 and T-bred is 256. However, I'm only talking about FSB.
Edit - The 266 is the mobile version, I forgot to add :frusty:
Posted by: Livy
Originally posted by DWk+16 February 2004 - 03:13--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DWk @ 16 February 2004 - 03:13)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Livy@15 February 2004 - 20:04
the 2500-266 isnt a barton is it? isnt it just a thourghbred?
the only 400fsb ive seen is the 3000 and 3200
edit: newegg dont even have a 2500-266
I guess the Search function is too l33t for all of yous :rolleyes:
here (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?DEPA=0&submit=Go&description=2500%2B)
And no. I'm not talking about the L2 Cache size.... I'm talking about the FSB. That is the difference between Barton and T-bred. Barton is 512 and T-bred is 256. However, I'm only talking about FSB.
Edit - The 266 is the mobile version, I forgot to add :frusty: [/b][/quote]
the 266 is the mobile version, for laptops. :P
and i did see it
Posted by: bigdawgfoxx
Buy the retail CPU
Overclock it to a 3200+ WITH the stock Heatsink, as it is very good.
Thats what I did and i run 45C Full Load...very nice.
Posted by: abu_has_the_power
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@16 February 2004 - 12:57
Buy the retail CPU
Overclock it to a 3200+ WITH the stock Heatsink, as it is very good.
Thats what I did and i run 45C Full Load...very nice.
u have 5 fans! and a tower case! ur air flow is much better than me and others. but good job anyway.
i'd stick with the stock hsf until it gets too hot, then upgrade
Posted by: adamp2p
Wait, hold on...you still have not bought your system yet?
Posted by: Keikan
Nope :) Just need something to consider 3 more weeks
Posted by: clocker
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@16 February 2004 - 10:12
i'd stick with the stock hsf until it gets too hot, then upgrade
Abu, this advice is somewhat odd from someone who is so proud of their SP 94 that it's featured in their sig.
If possible, I would get the good heatsink right away.
It's easier to install the HSF when the board is out of the case...sometimes it's mandatory as you must access the back...so why make extra work for yourself?
Posted by: Mr. Elmo
Originally posted by DWk+16 February 2004 - 01:50--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DWk @ 16 February 2004 - 01:50)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mr. Elmo@15 February 2004 - 18:34
y woudl u oc the 2500, its fast enuf....and coming from a 400mhz cpu, i think you shoudl see big enuf of a difference.
i dont get why most ppl want to oc...maybe just so they can brag about it. i mean the speed isnt going to be that much more noticable unless u do benchmark. btu for regualr day stuff, its gonna be the same
First of all (and I'm amazed no one has actually said anything about this), there are 2 different 2500+ processors:
The Barton 2500+ FSB: 333
The Barton 2500+ FSB: 266
I haven't seen any 400FSB 2500+, so if you can point me to one, I'll stand corrected :blink: [/b][/quote]
if you can point me to where i said there was a 400fsb 2500, i'll stand corrected
Posted by: DWk
Originally posted by Mr. Elmo@15 February 2004 - 18:34
y woudl u oc the 2500, its fast enuf....and coming from a 400mhz cpu, i think you shoudl see big enuf of a difference.
Bleh nevermind, I just got what you meant :ph34r:
You were talking about his current CPU.... :smilie4:
My bad :01:
Posted by: _John_Lennon_
Originally posted by Mr. Elmo+16 February 2004 - 23:53--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mr. Elmo @ 16 February 2004 - 23:53)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by DWk@16 February 2004 - 01:50
<!--QuoteBegin-Mr. Elmo@15 February 2004 - 18:34
y woudl u oc the 2500, its fast enuf....and coming from a 400mhz cpu, i think you shoudl see big enuf of a difference.
i dont get why most ppl want to oc...maybe just so they can brag about it. i mean the speed isnt going to be that much more noticable unless u do benchmark. btu for regualr day stuff, its gonna be the same
First of all (and I'm amazed no one has actually said anything about this), there are 2 different 2500+ processors:
The Barton 2500+ FSB: 333
The Barton 2500+ FSB: 266
I haven't seen any 400FSB 2500+, so if you can point me to one, I'll stand corrected :blink:
if you can point me to where i said there was a 400fsb 2500, i'll stand corrected [/b][/quote]
I argued with VB about this when I got here.
Look, they are specified as 333Mhz fsb processors, but they are based on the barton core, the same one that the 2800 and 3200+ 400Mhz FSB AMD's are.
And as a result, they easily go to the 400Mhz side bus range, a few get the up to 500 as well, with a godly board and stepping, and great ram, etc.