Eminem Tour-Cancelled!

[.Dan.]

Just heard Eminems up and comeing Tour has been cancelled, anyone else heard this, apparently its due to him collapsing due to exhaustion :(

[Formula1]

is it named anger management touR? if so that sucks, sad thing :(

[Alien5]

Just heard Eminems up and comeing Tour has been cancelled, anyone else heard this, apparently its due to him collapsing due to exhaustion :( i think he just wants to eat KFC n Play Video Games :) http://news.softpedia.com/news/Eminem-KFC-Addict-5869.shtml

[Vargas]

"Eminem is currently being treated for exhaustion, complicated by other medical issues," a statement from his record company Interscope said
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4158432.stm

[.Dan.]

is it named anger management touR? if so that sucks :(

Yes it is the eanger management tour, thi sucks bigtime, check the news on his site

www.eminem.com

[maebach]

Isn't he like 40 now?

[Vargas]

Isn't he like 40 now?
32
Eminem — Date of Birth: 17 October 1972

[Alien5]

yeah maybe he should just produce. his last album wasnt great

[maebach]

Pretty soon hes going to do what Jay-Z did. Mix and album with a rock band. I know it.

[DanB]

I heard he has quite a serious medical condition but isn't announcing anything yet

[GepperRankins]

eminem is one of the best rappers out there. anyone who denies that is a sheep who think they have have to hate rap because they love pop rock. little do they know, they have no mind of their own and probably sniff their sisters pants

[Alien5]

i dont think that Eminem is one of the greatest rappers, i think he would be in the top 500

[GepperRankins]

i'd say he was in the top ten. i dare someone to name a better rapper :snooty:

[Alien5]

snoop dog

[suprafreak6]

Pretty soon hes going to do what Jay-Z did. Mix and album with a rock band. I know it.

that was a decent cd not ultimate but decent :ph34r:

[GepperRankins]

snoop dog
:ermm:


i think i'll let you off. i was wanting someone to say tupac so i could tell them to jump off a bridge :unsure:

[Alien5]

snoop= :pimp:

[Celerystalksme]

i'd say he was in the top ten. i dare someone to name a better rapper :snooty:

Jimmy Pop from The Bloodhound Gang.

Shit i even named you a better white rapper.

also Everlast & Cage are a hell of a lot better as well.

[GepperRankins]

IMO most of the best are white. eminem, beastie boys, KMK, quarashi


rap should be about content and deliverence. most pop rappers suck (to me) because they don't actually talk about anything. sure snoop has a good flow but he never says anything interesting. gimme immortal technique, eminem or public enemy any day :snooty:

[Formula1]

LOl, these statistics proves it all, PWNED!

http://www.last.fm/tag/rap

[Vargas]

Two days after deep-sixing his European tour citing "exhaustion," Eminem has confirmed through his publicist that he is in drug rehabilitation.

The Grammy-winning rapper "is in the hospital under doctors' care," Interscope Records spokesman Dennis Dennehy said in a brief statement Thursday. "He is being treated for dependency on sleep medication."

http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,17184,00.html?tnews

[Cheese]

LOl, these statistics proves it all, PWNED!

http://www.last.fm/tag/rap

Are you not a member of the FST Audioscrobbler group?:unsure:

http://www.filesharingtalk.com/vb3/t98496.html

[Formula1]

How do i join it ?
http://www.last.fm/group/Geppers/

Nevermind , i joined. My username is K3N_Shady

[neon]

eminem is not a G.O.A.T nor is 2pac, and deffinenlty not snoop dogg
(greatest of all time)
yes he sells lots prob the most, does not make him the best rapper.emcee.lyricist whatever you want to call it, he was good up untill the Eminem Show album in my opinion then he turned all fuckin commerical well too much commerical like 50cent example : in da club song.

But back in his day eminem would have been in top 10.

in my opinion and Yes i know alot about hiphop, most of you only know boarder line , or whats on the radio.

try listening to Canibus, Chino XL, Big L or even DZK .

[soopaman]

I think neon is having trouble with his/her memory because M&M's first LP was really commercial. M&M was that years "novelty" artist AND his production skills are fuckin weak. Hopefully he will O.D in rehab and we won't have to talk about his lack of talent again.

peace

[GepperRankins]

eminem has always been commercial. every album has had the same formula pretty much.

*release funny song
*release sentimental song
*release angry song
*//next album


the thing about the eminem show and encore, is that he has found his own sound and has turned slightly from the sound dre made for him early in his carreer. i like his sound now, i always have. i'm not one of these elitists that think hating on pop artists makes me cool :happy:

p.s. aren't white america, square dance and mosh political truthy enough for you? :P

[neon]

I think neon is having trouble with his/her memory because M&M's first LP was really commercial. M&M was that years "novelty" artist AND his production skills are fuckin weak. Hopefully he will O.D in rehab and we won't have to talk about his lack of talent again.

peace


So your saying BEFORE eminem was even on a label.. his album was commerical what the fuck???
so your telling me underground artists make commerical albums I dont think so u idiot, in this case eminem "was" a battle rapper
no get outta here and educate yourself.

and i dont even like eminem im just stating the facts learn the art of hiphop before ya open ya mouth, most of you will listen to rap/hiphop and not even know what a multi is.
and yes eminem has no talent these days i totally agree, but im saying before he was even noticed he "HAD" talent have you seen the scribble jam battles? with eminem winning?..
eminem was turning main-stream aka "gaining no skill" since marshal mathers LP hands down in my opinion.

and trying to prove me wrong by wanting me to die in re-hab doesnt prove your point, back up your view/opinion with facts or something to build off you e-thug.

[neon]

p.s. aren't white america, square dance and mosh political truthy enough for you? :P[/QUOTE]

it is at a certain extent, comparing to say diabolic technique, truth told
eminem doesnt speak all the truth, kind of like micheal moore's farienhiet 9/11 movie....
he left out tons of crucial evidence and when asked why he said "because that wouldnt be american"

because eminem is in the media so much he is not "allowed" to talk about that kind of thing.

and yes eminem is the death of hiphopso fuck him
along with.....
50cent etc and fuck all there supporters.
if you dont think people like this are the death of hiphop you need to do research and find out about the roots of hiphop if you want to debate about it hit me up you will loose.

[GepperRankins]

i reckon that comment was probably trying to be ironic.


the approach em has to take in order to not alienate america and murder his career in the public eye has to be gentle. if he spontaniously released a song along the lines of bin laden or cause of death, the media would deny his existence. the majority of fans would see this as such a paradigm shift that they would be turned off completely. people don't want to hear "the truth" because it's too hard to swallow, so if you want to get it mainstream you have to do it subtly

[GepperRankins]

i'm too lazy to do my research.

could someone tell me how it's possible for an artist to kill a genre. also, someone explain how one of the most skilled and influential rappers ever are killing it. seriously if you think hiphop should be going in a different direction record how it should be and put it on the internet.

[neon]

hiphop was originaly started by the black and latino culture it was about something it was about a struggle, mainly started because the pooer class people couldnt afford a guitar or a drum set at the time.
source = http://www.bbc.co.uk/1xtra/hiphop/krsone_talk.shtml
also . www.whiteboyscantrap.com - documentary

there is the True art of hiphop , because hiphop is about the message or lyrics for this matter and if you looked into the pure or true hiphop artists that still do it for the love not the money you can see it written throughout there music, crafted words of skill imagrey metaphors etc.

some elements of hiphop: (which most mainstream rappers wont even go near, i mean why do they need to? they just talk about the club , bitches etc, well most do)

punchlines
Art of Text
Rap Basics
Battling/Voting
Topicals
Aspects of Lyricism
Power Wording
Wordplay
The basics: Bars/Couplets
Advanced Multis
Countering/Multis

source = http://www.hiphop-directory.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6561
^^ you will find MOST things here about hiphop elements. good read.

basic break down, now days the hiphop/rap cultre you see aka the "mainstream" is what Represents hiphop today to the original meaning of hiphop is lost withing the cultre of mainstream, Bussiness giants or your masters anr's etc choose what you make and write about, you see it's about
"numbers" MTV or VideoHits etc dont care about the cultre the art the skill anymore they care about $$$ money aka numbers, if 50cent can sell a million records then they want him, regardless of his skill in hiphop etc.
and most of 50cent's fans are white people 80+% (using 50cent as an example here)

i can go on and on but i dont see the need you should get the point by now if not pm me.



examples:

now if you could sign to a major record label anytime would you?:

"Not as an artist, why? because an artist is the bottom of the barrel
an artist is a slave an artist is a surf th lives on somebody else's land
and collects all his property and goes there, a record deal aint nothing
but a loan with a horrible interest rate, and it's worse then a loan
with a horrible interest rate because when you take out a loan to
buy a fucking house and pay the loan back you own the house
when i pay back the record deal you dont own ya masters you
dont own ya publishing you dont own nothing thats why when all the
niggas talk im a gangster im a murderer and you on a major
nah nigga you gettin pimped your a hoe so dont come to me
talking that extra cericular shit, because when i sell my albums
independently because we know were the money is going to the land i own
speaks for itself i dont invest in bullshit i buy land because thats what
i need to do, nothing feels better then telling somebody to get the fuck
off your land." - immortal technique
(written a bit short/cut to original source = http://www.funkinbeatz.net/intrvw/immortaltechniquept4.htm needs quicktime )


ii'll even suggest a PURE underground hiphop artist who still uses all this strongly throuh his art
www.soundclick.com/dzk
very nice underground artist.

ok post your ideas on this man if your still not understanding.

[Formula1]

The Source... ??? Give me a break... It's people like Benzino who hurt rap :P Trust me if it werent for an artist like eminem, rap wouldnt be just as popular as it is today... ;)

[GepperRankins]

listening to the KRS lecture now. :happy:


do you even know what that DVD is about?


still don't understand how eminem is killing hiphop or rap

[neon]

eminem was into hiphop originaly for the art, he battled at scribble jam and he won,
battled some very good underground artists and won. he was good back in his day
he used to rhyme for the love or with the elements. but you see things like encore toady
and eminem has lost the love for hiphop, not caring about the elements, just look at songs like "just loose it rah rah rah rah rah" i mean seriously if he wasnt famous
he wouldnt even get looked at.
im not sure how to explain it further, try getting into underground hiphop and see how different it is with the meaning/lyricism.

[neon]

The Source... ??? Give me a break... It's people like Benzino who hurt rap :P Trust me if it werent for an artist like eminem, rap wouldnt be just as popular as it is today... ;)


source as in the original content of my information.

[cpt_azad]

i dont think that Eminem is one of the greatest rappers, i think he would be in the top 500

That's where you're wrong bud. I consider him to be one of the best artists out there, not just rap but all genres. I don't like rap that much, in fact Eminem is the only rap music I listen to cuz he's just that good.

[natedogg]

i dont think that Eminem is one of the greatest rappers, i think he would be in the top 500

That's where you're wrong bud. I consider him to be one of the best artists out there, not just rap but all genres. I don't like rap that much, in fact Eminem is the only rap music I listen to cuz he's just that good.
hes not that great:dry: , there is other great hip hop artists then him

[cpt_azad]

I don't like rap for a lot of reasons, mainly because like 99% of em are always rapping about:

1) look at how much money i have
2) cadillacs
3) bentleys
4) other cars
5) chicks = sluts that like to just dance around me in music videos
6) money

eminem is on a higher lever than that, he doesn't care about those things and focuses on other issues and uses his talents to emphasize that. The last thing we need is more people preaching about being rich and driving their Mercedes.

[Formula1]

I don't like rap for a lot of reasons, mainly because like 99% of em are always rapping about:

1) look at how much money i have
2) cadillacs
3) bentleys
4) other cars
5) chicks = sluts that like to just dance around me in music videos
6) money

eminem is on a higher lever than that, he doesn't care about those things and focuses on other issues and uses his talents to emphasize that. The last thing we need is more people preaching about being rich and driving their Mercedes.

Yeah you are 100% right, the only other artist i can think of that can compare with Eminem is probably Kanye West.

[Formula1]

That's where you're wrong bud. I consider him to be one of the best artists out there, not just rap but all genres. I don't like rap that much, in fact Eminem is the only rap music I listen to cuz he's just that good.
hes not that great:dry: , there is other great hip hop artists then him

[GepperRankins]

I don't like rap for a lot of reasons, mainly because like 99% of em are always rapping about:

1) look at how much money i have
2) cadillacs
3) bentleys
4) other cars
5) chicks = sluts that like to just dance around me in music videos
6) money

eminem is on a higher lever than that, he doesn't care about those things and focuses on other issues and uses his talents to emphasize that. The last thing we need is more people preaching about being rich and driving their Mercedes.

Yeah you are 100% right, the only other artist i can think of that can compare with Eminem is probably Kanye West.
there are teh many artists capable of original rhymes. guess you gotta look for them though, as they can't use the media to find their way to you.


still can't see how eminem is killing hiphop. he never scrapped his principles in order to sell. (he might have put em on the back-burner a bit :ph34r: ) but if he wants to educate he might as well try and get through to as many people as possible

[neon]

I don't like rap for a lot of reasons, mainly because like 99% of em are always rapping about:

1) look at how much money i have
2) cadillacs
3) bentleys
4) other cars
5) chicks = sluts that like to just dance around me in music videos
6) money

eminem is on a higher lever than that, he doesn't care about those things and focuses on other issues and uses his talents to emphasize that. The last thing we need is more people preaching about being rich and driving their Mercedes.

the sad part is, Thats the DEATH OF HIPHOP.RAP.
it is based on what you see in the mainstream
i know artists that are better then eminem easy,
and DO focus on world issues and politics etc etc and dont even talk about that shit, again you hear 99% of rappers saying that because it sells

its just a shame that you base hiphop or rappers on the mainstream.

[GepperRankins]

i still say there's not many as talented as eminem :snooty:

[scribblec]

eminem is not a G.O.A.T nor is 2pac, and deffinenlty not snoop dogg
(greatest of all time)
yes he sells lots prob the most, does not make him the best rapper.emcee.lyricist whatever you want to call it, he was good up untill the Eminem Show album in my opinion then he turned all fuckin commerical well too much commerical like 50cent example : in da club song.

But back in his day eminem would have been in top 10.

in my opinion and Yes i know alot about hiphop, most of you only know boarder line , or whats on the radio.

try listening to Canibus, Chino XL, Big L or even DZK .

is that a joke? didnt eminem rip that bitch in the song can i bitch ?

the point is your all crying about how eminem isnt into true hiphop or some shit but if you look at the alternatives like ja rule and jermaine dupre :| then eminem is a fucking legend. i spent last night listening to all of tupacs albums (supposedly the real hip hop artist and best rapper ever) and most of his songs are shit hes only liked because hes dead... people are afraid to speak out because people like to follow other peoples opinions like sheep. Imortal technique is good but hes beats just arent good enough to cut it i mean the lyrics might be good but without a good sounding track whats the point?

[cpt_azad]

eminem is not a G.O.A.T nor is 2pac, and deffinenlty not snoop dogg
(greatest of all time)
yes he sells lots prob the most, does not make him the best rapper.emcee.lyricist whatever you want to call it, he was good up untill the Eminem Show album in my opinion then he turned all fuckin commerical well too much commerical like 50cent example : in da club song.

But back in his day eminem would have been in top 10.

in my opinion and Yes i know alot about hiphop, most of you only know boarder line , or whats on the radio.

try listening to Canibus, Chino XL, Big L or even DZK .

is that a joke? didnt eminem rip that bitch in the song can i bitch ?

the point is your all crying about how eminem isnt into true hiphop or some shit but if you look at the alternatives like ja rule and jermaine dupre :| then eminem is a fucking legend. i spent last night listening to all of tupacs albums (supposedly the real hip hop artist and best rapper ever) and most of his songs are shit hes only liked because hes dead... people are afraid to speak out because people like to follow other peoples opinions like sheep. Imortal technique is good but hes beats just arent good enough to cut it i mean the lyrics might be good but without a good sounding track whats the point?

Could not have worded it better myself :).



the sad part is, Thats the DEATH OF HIPHOP.RAP.
it is based on what you see in the mainstream
i know artists that are better then eminem easy,
and DO focus on world issues and politics etc etc and dont even talk about that shit, again you hear 99% of rappers saying that because it sells

its just a shame that you base hiphop or rappers on the mainstream.
I don't base hip hop or rappers on mainstream, I don't listen to hip-hop...period, I'm more into Rock, Metal and and well I guess thats it lol. Only Eminem and maybe once in very f'ing long while an independent artist or artists that are not in the mainstream is what I listen to, and I must say some are quite good.

As formula1 post says, he pointed out Kanye West, I gave it a look on torrentspy and I must say I am very very impressed. The only reason I bothered to look into Kanye West is because of the movie Jarhead (look in movieworld) and his song "Jesus Walks", lyrical genius is a very good description. So far, Eminem and Kanye West are the only hiphop artists/music I listen to, mostly Eminem. I dont' consider Eminem to be part of hip hop even though most people say he is, his stuff is on a higher level than that.

[neon]

Artists like Immortal technique
Canibus and even Chino XL
write above eminem
metaphors similes repition whatever they use it more skillfully through there rhymes

This topic comes up alot even in the hiphop scence/forums (comparing eminem to canibus comes up alot)
and when I or somebody else say Compare Canibus's lines to eminem's lines i dare you
they never do it, because canibus is to skilled hes one of the greatest if not the greatest lyricist of all time.

and to define the BEST rapper/hiphop artist whatever you wana call it
as to being to best = how many records sold.
then your already dumb and need to go educate yourself.

[cpt_azad]

Artists like Immortal technique
Canibus and even Chino XL
write above eminem
metaphors similes repition whatever they use it more skillfully through there rhymes

This topic comes up alot even in the hiphop scence/forums (comparing eminem to canibus comes up alot)
and when I or somebody else say Compare Canibus's lines to eminem's lines i dare you
they never do it, because canibus is to skilled hes one of the greatest if not the greatest lyricist of all time.

and to define the BEST rapper/hiphop artist whatever you wana call it
as to being to best = how many records sold.
then your already dumb and need to go educate yourself.

You keep restating yourself, we got the message, I for one got the message years ago. Records sold doesn't amount to shit cuz in the end that goes back to mainstream again (ooo, look the new album EVERYONE is talking about....). No one here is arguing with you except for the rare rap artist wannabe. For me, I'll stick with my Eminem, slipknot, system of a down and other great classics including Pantera. If you really want to hear some of Em's good stuff, check out his underground songs. And for those ppl interested in something good and "for a change", Thousand Foot Krutch.

[neon]

I listen to rock aswell, and i have heard eminem's underground songs, i also said He WAS good back in his underground/battle days. which was an easy 5+ years ago

[cpt_azad]

Yup, something like 5-7 years ago. The problem with mainstream is that it's basically force feeding the public. It's the "hip" thing to do or listen to, just like fads, that's all mainstream music is.

[scribblec]

i think rainman and follow the yellow brick road were brilliant songs especially the lyrics in yellow brick... hes a pure genius. the thing with you neon is you hear his song that he releases to keep the kids happy and automatically judge him, of course just lose it is gonna suck but he has to do it to keep the mainstream fans happy. listen to the rest of his album more then once and you might actually understand where im trying to come from

[neon]

i think rainman and follow the yellow brick road were brilliant songs especially the lyrics in yellow brick... hes a pure genius. the thing with you neon is you hear his song that he releases to keep the kids happy and automatically judge him, of course just lose it is gonna suck but he has to do it to keep the mainstream fans happy. listen to the rest of his album more then once and you might actually understand where im trying to come from

man i've been into underground hiphop for over 3 years, i used to listen to eminem i have all his albums expect for infinite.
I'm not stupid, If you compared lyrical content with canibus and eminem.. eminem would not beat him Lyrically, It would have been a close battle back in em's golden days. but even when eminem was at his best he still lost to such emcees like Juice etc

[scribblec]

i think rainman and follow the yellow brick road were brilliant songs especially the lyrics in yellow brick... hes a pure genius. the thing with you neon is you hear his song that he releases to keep the kids happy and automatically judge him, of course just lose it is gonna suck but he has to do it to keep the mainstream fans happy. listen to the rest of his album more then once and you might actually understand where im trying to come from

man i've been into underground hiphop for over 3 years, i used to listen to eminem i have all his albums expect for infinite.
I'm not stupid, If you compared lyrical content with canibus and eminem.. eminem would not beat him Lyrically, It would have been a close battle back in em's golden days. but even when eminem was at his best he still lost to such emcees like Juice etc


how would you know underground eminem if uve only been listening for 3 years? when eminem first hit the scene u was wat 9 years old? bitch please...

[maebach]

man i've been into underground hiphop for over 3 years, i used to listen to eminem i have all his albums expect for infinite.
I'm not stupid, If you compared lyrical content with canibus and eminem.. eminem would not beat him Lyrically, It would have been a close battle back in em's golden days. but even when eminem was at his best he still lost to such emcees like Juice etc


how would you know underground eminem if uve only been listening for 3 years? when eminem first hit the scene u was wat 9 years old? bitch please...

pwned? :ph34r:

[cpt_azad]

how would you know underground eminem if uve only been listening for 3 years? when eminem first hit the scene u was wat 9 years old? bitch please...

pwned? :ph34r:

pure ownage :01:

[soopaman]

i think rainman and follow the yellow brick road were brilliant songs especially the lyrics in yellow brick... hes a pure genius. the thing with you neon is you hear his song that he releases to keep the kids happy and automatically judge him, of course just lose it is gonna suck but he has to do it to keep the mainstream fans happy. listen to the rest of his album more then once and you might actually understand where im trying to come from

man i've been into underground hiphop for over 3 years, i used to listen to eminem i have all his albums expect for infinite.
I'm not stupid, If you compared lyrical content with canibus and eminem.. eminem would not beat him Lyrically, It would have been a close battle back in em's golden days. but even when eminem was at his best he still lost to such emcees like Juice etc


A whole 3 years ??? that must make you an expert

[neon]

man i've been into underground hiphop for over 3 years, i used to listen to eminem i have all his albums expect for infinite.
I'm not stupid, If you compared lyrical content with canibus and eminem.. eminem would not beat him Lyrically, It would have been a close battle back in em's golden days. but even when eminem was at his best he still lost to such emcees like Juice etc


A whole 3 years ??? that must make you an expert


Never said i was an expert but if you say Eminem is the best lyricaly your a dumb fuck thats all im trying to say.

[scribblec]

A whole 3 years ??? that must make you an expert


Never said i was an expert but if you say Eminem is the best lyricaly your a dumb fuck thats all im trying to say.

must i repeat what i said earlier? :ph34r:

[soopaman]

A whole 3 years ??? that must make you an expert


Never said i was an expert but if you say Eminem is the best lyricaly your a dumb fuck thats all im trying to say.


m&m is a dick - who cares about how much he hates his mum/ex-wife/etc ?? who cares how much he loves his daughter?? he's strictly for wiggers !!

MF Doom, Ghostface, Raekwon - all are much better rappers than m&m

http://img271.imageshack.us/img271/483/raekwon4tt9em.jpg (http://imageshack.us)