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suprafreak6
09-24-2005, 03:52 AM
I need to know some feedback on this Power Supply (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=876412&Sku=ULT31558)

and wondering if this is good deal
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1576696&Sku=E400-T6212
isnt this good couldnt i upgrade too?

lynx
09-24-2005, 08:59 AM
WRT the PSU, a lot depends on what you want out of it. Note that it only has a 20-pin connector, so it won't really be suitable for the latest motherboards. And dual 80mm fans mean it won't be as quiet as some of the ones with a single 120mm fan.

For what it is, the e-machines system is not a bad price. However, you need to remember that with many of these sort of systems they cut costs to the last penny. This often means leaving out the very connectors you would need in order to upgrade them. It is obviously not a PCI-E system, that would have been mentioned if it was. And there's no mention of an AGP slot either. So straight away you are hampered in any potential video upgrade you might have been considering. Give it a miss.

clocker
09-24-2005, 01:19 PM
WRT the PSU, a lot depends on what you want out of it. Note that it only has a 20-pin connector, so it won't really be suitable for the latest motherboards. And dual 80mm fans mean it won't be as quiet as some of the ones with a single 120mm fan.
I bought one of these when they first came out (AFAIK, it was the first modular supply) and it was a fine bit 'o kit. Lately I've read an increasing number of complaints...it seems that Ultra changed suppliers midstream and the newer PSUs have some problems. In any case, the cabling, which is very nicely made BTW, is pretty stiff and unwieldy in a tight system.

For what it is, the e-machines system is not a bad price. However, you need to remember that with many of these sort of systems they cut costs to the last penny. This often means leaving out the very connectors you would need in order to upgrade them. It is obviously not a PCI-E system, that would have been mentioned if it was. And there's no mention of an AGP slot either. So straight away you are hampered in any potential video upgrade you might have been considering. Give it a miss.
As long as you know what you are getting into the eMachine is OK.
My Mom's has been a paragon of reliability, but all the shortcomings Lynx pointed out are present and should be considered.
Personally, I wouldn't touch a Sempron chip with a bargepole, but your opinion may vary.

Virtualbody1234
09-24-2005, 01:23 PM
Based on this picture:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/images/SkuImages/gallery/large/E400-T6212-l.JPG

and it's specifications, I suspect that the eMachines uses this motherboard: http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=RS480M2-IL&class=mb

So it does have a PCI Express slot. In fact it's right at the top of the picture.


I wouldn't touch a Sempron chip with a bargepole, but your opinion may vary.
It doesn't use a Sempron. It uses an Athlon 64 3200+.


Edit: What are you 2 top hardware guys saying? What about accuracy with your answers?

clocker
09-25-2005, 12:20 PM
Edit: What are you 2 top hardware guys saying? What about accuracy with your answers?
Oh, so now you want accuracy, eh?

OK, my bad.
I'm quite surprised actually...all the low end PCs I've seen with "AMD a64" CPUs have had s754 Semprons installed.
I assumed...and look what happened...hoisted on my own petard by an observant Canadian.

Oh, the humanity!

Virtualbody1234
09-25-2005, 12:54 PM
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1802