I Need The Perfect DVD Player......

[Busyman]

Requirements:

Divx
DVD-R/RW,DVD+R/RW
Upconverts to 1080i HD

If it comes in a recorder...even better. I'm not getting Blu-Ray for awhile and I have tons of movies I've never watched. They, however look like total shit in comparison to my HD cable picture. I need to bump the picture up.

Any ideas?

[muchspl3]

just get a line doubler and just use a phillips dvp642

if you get a good one you can use it on everything sept hd content

[Darth Sushi]

It upconverts to 1080i (via HDMI cable) but no divx/xvid support:

http://www.samsung.com/ca/products/dvdplayer/hddvd/dvd_hd950xac.asp

There's even a hack to remove HDCP!

[muchspl3]

It upconverts to 1080i (via HDMI cable) but no divx/xvid support:

http://www.samsung.com/ca/products/dvdplayer/hddvd/dvd_hd950xac.asp

There's even a hack to remove HDCP!
divx? xvid?

[Busyman]

just get a line doubler and just use a phillips dvp642

if you get a good one you can use it on everything sept hd content
How much is the line doubler?

[Busyman]

It upconverts to 1080i (via HDMI cable) but no divx/xvid support:

http://www.samsung.com/ca/products/dvdplayer/hddvd/dvd_hd950xac.asp

There's even a hack to remove HDCP!
No divx? Nope then.

[Darth Sushi]

http://www.oppodigital.com/opdv971h.html

[3RA1N1AC]

you must have a big-ass TV, if you really need the upconversion. i don't reckon the improvement would be noticeable at all on a screen smaller than about 40".

if your TV doesn't have an HDMI or DVI input, then unfortunately yer options are gonna be limited as far as upconversion goes. if you do have HDMI, then you prolly have more options.

i have one of these... http://www.liteonit.com/DC/english/lvd_2001.htm
it's pretty good. dvd playback looks great, xvid & divx 5 playback are just as good as the philips, NTSC/PAL compatible & regionfree-able, divx 3.11 playback is shitty (but then, divx 3.11 is a shitty codec that nobody uses anymore), the firmware menu for browsing ISO discs is MUCH MUCH better-looking than the philips menu, it can incrementally stretch mpeg/avi files vertically & horizontally to fix incorrect aspect ratios, and it's one of the few players that does 720p & 1080i via component output (good for people who don't have digital inputs on their TV).

that Lite-On model must be a rare item nowadays, since it originally had i think a single production run a few years ago. it was later re-badged as the Norcent DP-501M, which isn't quite as sturdy (Norcent's kinda a budget brand that you see a lot in stores like Walmart) but it's basically the same player and it can actually be updated with Lite-On's (newer & better) firmware if you edit one of the firmware's text files before burning it onto CD. firmware editing info here --> http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=3413001&&#post3413001

basically hollywood is doin' a number on us, and they don't want dvd players to output high-def without a "secure digital" connection (like HDMI). thus upconversion on component (analogue) output has become a big no-no. the full extent of these shenanigans prolly will not be realized by most people until HD-DVD and Blu-Ray Video are released, as those formats will not send 720p/1080i through component outputs -- a whole bunch of people with component-only HDTVs are gonna get screwed by the same electronics companies that sold the TVs to 'em (who will then be selling "HD" movie players that say "component only? fuck off. i give you... LOW DEFINITION, lolz"). in order to satisfy the movie studios, of course.

[muchspl3]

just get a line doubler and just use a phillips dvp642

if you get a good one you can use it on everything sept hd content
How much is the line doubler?
for a good one 1k or more

[Busyman]

you must have a big-ass TV, if you really need the upconversion. i don't reckon the improvement would be noticeable at all on a screen smaller than about 40".

if your TV doesn't have an HDMI or DVI input, then unfortunately yer options are gonna be limited as far as upconversion goes. if you do have HDMI, then you prolly have more options.

i have one of these... http://www.liteonit.com/DC/english/lvd_2001.htm
it's pretty good. dvd playback looks great, xvid & divx 5 playback are just as good as the philips, NTSC/PAL compatible & regionfree-able, divx 3.11 playback is shitty (but then, divx 3.11 is a shitty codec that nobody uses anymore), the firmware menu for browsing ISO discs is MUCH MUCH better-looking than the philips menu, it can incrementally stretch mpeg/avi files vertically & horizontally to fix incorrect aspect ratios, and it's one of the few players that does 720p & 1080i via component output (good for people who don't have digital inputs on their TV).

that Lite-On model must be a rare item nowadays, since it originally had i think a single production run a few years ago. it was later re-badged as the Norcent DP-501M, which isn't quite as sturdy (Norcent's kinda a budget brand that you see a lot in stores like Walmart) but it's basically the same player and it can actually be updated with Lite-On's (newer & better) firmware if you edit one of the firmware's text files before burning it onto CD. firmware editing info here --> http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=3413001&&#post3413001

basically hollywood is doin' a number on us, and they don't want dvd players to output high-def without a "secure digital" connection (like HDMI). thus upconversion on component (analogue) output has become a big no-no. the full extent of these shenanigans prolly will not be realized by most people until HD-DVD and Blu-Ray Video are released, as those formats will not send 720p/1080i through component outputs -- a whole bunch of people with component-only HDTVs are gonna get screwed by the same electronics companies that sold the TVs to 'em (who will then be selling "HD" movie players that say "component only? fuck off. i give you... LOW DEFINITION, lolz"). in order to satisfy the movie studios, of course.
I gotta 65" Mitsubishi HDTV w/DVI-D input.

Looks like I'm going to go with the Oppo OPDV971H....

1. Up Convert from 480i to 720p/1080i

2. Plays Divx/XviD and .SRT, .SMI, .IDX and .SUB formats

3. DVD Video & Audio, Divx/MPEG4, VCD, SVCD, CD, HDCD, WMA, DVD+R/RW, DVD-R/RW, CD-R/RW, CD-DA, MP3 ISO, MP4 ISO, Kodak Picture

4. Region free

5. DVI out (5' DVI-DVI-D cable included)

6. Is top rated EVERYWHERE!!! (including their customer support)

7. $200 ain't too bad

8. If I order directly from Oppo I get a 6' DVI to HDMI cable. That's especially good if I get a different TV (they are HDMI now) or have some other need.

I joined the AVS forum irregardless to my Motorola 6412 STB about a week ago and decided (today actually) to find out about a good Upconvert DVD player. I ran across many like the Samsung, Momitsu, and Panasonic but again Oppo's kept being everyone's choice. :01:

I wish I had checked back to this thread sooner. Woulda saved me alot of time. I actually missed Darth Sushi's and your post, 3RA1N1AC. :(

I do thank you both, however. Your help is still much appreciated.:)

[matt526]

http://www.oppodigital.com/opdv971h.html
this look very nice!!!:w00t:

[3RA1N1AC]

I gotta 65" Mitsubishi HDTV w/DVI-D input.
cool, then. sounds like you picked the right player for it.


I do thank you both, however. Your help is still much appreciated.
no problem. my advice was kinda useless since i didn't know whether you had a digital-in on your TV, but still it was satisfying to get some bitchin' done re: the "no high-def from HD-DVD/Blu-Ray for component HDTVs" thing. those hollywood/electronics bastards!!!1 :P

[Busyman]

cool, then. sounds like you picked the right player for it.


no problem. my advice was kinda useless since i didn't know whether you had a digital-in on your TV, but still it was satisfying to get some bitchin' done re: the "no high-def from HD-DVD/Blu-Ray for component HDTVs" thing. those hollywood/electronics bastards!!!1 :P
Tell me about it. HDMI is the in thing now but give 2 years and it'll be something else. (HDMI carries audio and video but my DVI is just video)

The highest HD signal now is 1080i but 1080p will be making headway soon.
(of course, my TV can't handle it).:dry:

I wish my TV had 2 DVI inputs 'cause my STB uses DVI as well. The switchers are too expensive for what they actually do.

[Busyman]

I never bought the Oppo and now I'm not.

Just yesterday I discovered my fucking Xbox upconvert my DVDs.:01:

I went into my Xbox settings and added 480p and 1080i, popped in Batman Begins and BAM!!, 1080i ON A NORMAL DVD!!!

It's not as good as HD but beats the hell out of 480p. Now I can watch all the movies I've been holding back on.