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NeoTheOne
11-22-2005, 01:55 AM
So answer my question after you read this , Is .doc going to be open source , if it is BAM im going to be the first person to incorparate this into my programs.

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Massachusetts proposal requiring compliance with OpenDocument for government documents is seen as a spur
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By Simon Taylor and Elizabeth Montalbano, IDG News Service
November 21, 2005

Microsoft (Profile (http://www.infoworld.com/Microsoft/company_45844.html?index=0&view=0&curNodeId=0), Products (http://www.infoworld.com/Microsoft/company_45844.html?index=0&view=1&curNodeId=0), Articles (http://www.infoworld.com/Microsoft/company_45844.html?index=0&view=2&curNodeId=0)) Corp. Monday said it will offer its Word, Excel and PowerPoint document formats as open standards, a move that could spark a war with technology rivals over standard document formats.

Microsoft said it would submit its Office Open XML (Extensible Markup Language) document format technology to the International Standards Organization (ISO) to be adopted as an international standard in time for the launch of the next version of its Office software suite, code-named Office 12.

The development comes as a group of technology rivals led by IBM (Profile (http://www.infoworld.com/IBM/company_65082.html?index=0&view=0&curNodeId=0), Products (http://www.infoworld.com/IBM/company_65082.html?index=0&view=1&curNodeId=0), Articles (http://www.infoworld.com/IBM/company_65082.html?index=0&view=2&curNodeId=0)) Corp. and Sun Microsystems (Profile (http://www.infoworld.com/Sun_Microsystems/company_45856.html?index=0&view=0&curNodeId=0), Products (http://www.infoworld.com/Sun_Microsystems/company_45856.html?index=0&view=1&curNodeId=0), Articles (http://www.infoworld.com/Sun_Microsystems/company_45856.html?index=0&view=2&curNodeId=0)) Inc. are mobilizing a global effort to push the OASIS consortium's Open Document Format for Office Applications (OpenDocument) as a global standard format for these kinds of documents. The effort was spurred in part by a highly publicized proposal in Massachusetts requiring compliance with OpenDocument for government documents, which would mean the phasing out of Microsoft Office and its proprietary format.

Microsoft has been facing increasing pressure from governments and agencies as they have insisted on standards-compliance for their software. Microsoft executives confirmed that the move would help the company win contracts from public authorities that want software based on open standards.

"We have a few barriers [with government contracts]," said Alan Yates, general manager for Microsoft Office. "It will give governments more long-term confidence."

Yet a key supporter of OpenDocument and steward of OpenOffice, an open-source rival to Office, said Microsoft is using the move as an "end run" around having to support OpenDocument, which has the backing of a host of vendors, including IBM (Profile (http://www.infoworld.com/IBM/company_45843.html?index=0&view=0&curNodeId=0), Products (http://www.infoworld.com/IBM/company_45843.html?index=0&view=1&curNodeId=0), Articles (http://www.infoworld.com/IBM/company_45843.html?index=0&view=2&curNodeId=0)), Sun, Novell (Profile (http://www.infoworld.com/Novell/company_45848.html?index=0&view=0&curNodeId=0), Products (http://www.infoworld.com/Novell/company_45848.html?index=0&view=1&curNodeId=0), Articles (http://www.infoworld.com/Novell/company_45848.html?index=0&view=2&curNodeId=0)) Inc., Red Hat (Profile (http://www.infoworld.com/Red_Hat/company_45850.html?index=0&view=0&curNodeId=0), Products (http://www.infoworld.com/Red_Hat/company_45850.html?index=0&view=1&curNodeId=0), Articles (http://www.infoworld.com/Red_Hat/company_45850.html?index=0&view=2&curNodeId=0)) Inc., Google (Profile (http://www.infoworld.com/Google/company_46653.html?index=0&view=0&curNodeId=0), Products (http://www.infoworld.com/Google/company_46653.html?index=0&view=1&curNodeId=0), Articles (http://www.infoworld.com/Google/company_46653.html?index=0&view=2&curNodeId=0)) Inc., Apple Computer (Profile (http://www.infoworld.com/Apple_Computer/company_45806.html?index=0&view=0&curNodeId=0), Products (http://www.infoworld.com/Apple_Computer/company_45806.html?index=0&view=1&curNodeId=0), Articles (http://www.infoworld.com/Apple_Computer/company_45806.html?index=0&view=2&curNodeId=0)) Inc. and Intel (Profile (http://www.infoworld.com/Intel/company_47374.html?index=0&view=0&curNodeId=0), Products (http://www.infoworld.com/Intel/company_47374.html?index=0&view=1&curNodeId=0), Articles (http://www.infoworld.com/Intel/company_47374.html?index=0&view=2&curNodeId=0)) Corp. This is because companies can take a look at ISO standards, but they can't use them to build their own applications, said Louis Suarez-Potts, community manager of OpenOffice.org (Profile (http://www.infoworld.com/OpenOffice.org/company_50884.html?index=0&view=0&curNodeId=0), Products (http://www.infoworld.com/OpenOffice.org/company_50884.html?index=0&view=1&curNodeId=0), Articles (http://www.infoworld.com/OpenOffice.org/company_50884.html?index=0&view=2&curNodeId=0)) and chair of the group's governing council.

"With an open standard any application can use it," he said. "With an ISO standard, it's not quite the same thing. It just means you have a reference for it."

Microsoft's Yates admitted that the move would help Microsoft compete against OpenOffice, though he said he believed that the company was already doing so effectively.

The decision also reflects pressure from the European Commission and member governments of the European Union. Yates said that Microsoft has been asked to standardize its formats. The issue has come up at series of meetings between company executives and E.U. government officials.

Microsoft also is planning to make available tools so that old documents will be able to take advantage of the open standard. "It's the end of closed documents," he said.
For industry, it would offer new levels of opportunity for innovation, he said. "Developers of all kinds will rush to take advantage [of the format]," Yates predicted.

Still, some are puzzled about why Microsoft continues to balk on supporting OpenDocument, when other vendors are rallying behind it.
Stephen O'Grady, a senior analyst with RedMonk, said that it appears Microsoft is still keeping its Open XML as a control point in the battle for document standards.

He said that while it's not a bad move, it seems illogical that Microsoft would submit its own file formats to a standards body rather than simply add OpenDocument support to Office alongside its own and other formats, such as Adobe Systems (Profile (http://www.infoworld.com/Adobe_Systems/company_57497.html?index=0&view=0&curNodeId=0), Products (http://www.infoworld.com/Adobe_Systems/company_57497.html?index=0&view=1&curNodeId=0), Articles (http://www.infoworld.com/Adobe_Systems/company_57497.html?index=0&view=2&curNodeId=0)) Inc.'s popular PDF (portable document format). Microsoft already has announced plans to support PDF in Office 12.

"To me what they should’ve done from a competitive standpoint is support OpenDocument format. They can do that without jeopardizing their own position," O'Grady said. "I have never been one who says Microsoft should drop what they’re doing. I just don't know why they can't add OpenDocument [support] alongside other formats, when they support WordPerfect and PDF."

:source: Source: http://www.infoworld.com/article/05/11/21/HNmsopenoffice_1.html

NeoTheOne
11-22-2005, 02:02 AM
Eww , why did it post like that ?

twisterX
11-22-2005, 02:12 AM
just edit it. It always happends for me.

peat moss
11-22-2005, 06:36 AM
Yep I have the same trouble I'm guessing its the ad's or images . Delete the \r\n\r\n and press space bar after to make a paragragh . :)

twisterX
11-24-2005, 10:01 PM
i just copy and paste th ewhole news article over