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Wolfmight
04-19-2003, 03:18 AM
Stats:

AMD Althon XP 2400 (2.0ghz)
384mb ram
Gigabyte K7Triton Mobo (8x AGP, USB 2.0, 5 pci slots, 3 ram slots, etc)
GeForce 4 64mb. (agp)
DSL connection to internet normally downloads at 250-270kbytes/s(router, allways on)
17" HP moniter
Liteon Durnproof CD-Rw 12x10x32x
DVD-rom
80gb hd
Microsoft Lasermouse Intelli
Microtek Scanner(it's scans pretty fast)

You may have a faster computer or a slower computer, but I think my computer is totally awsome. I even built the whole thing today! :D

jay973
04-19-2003, 03:20 AM
I want your proccessor Wolfmight!!!
:lol:

fallenknight308
04-19-2003, 03:26 AM
Sweet, Sweet B)

Dombler
04-19-2003, 03:49 AM
I only have the Athlon 1400+. If I wanted to upgrade, do i have to stay with Athlon or can i change to Intel. I think I might have to switch my motherboard though.

Wolfmight
04-19-2003, 03:55 AM
Advance AC97 Audio Sound Card! It's got some nice crisp sound!
Alot of stuff in it's settings. The gigabyte Mobo people are awsome.. :D

fallenknight308
04-19-2003, 04:09 AM
@WOLF

If you don't mind my asking what did she run ya? :o

amphoteric88
04-19-2003, 04:48 AM
does your board have onboard lan?
my board (asus a7n8x) has dual onboard lan and i had a little problem installing the drivers for my 3com LAN port, the drivers on the board driver cd don't seem to be correct. they must be though, cos i had it working before i formatted. any people had problems setting up their 3com lan port on their asus a7n8x?
very nice comp by the way, the next thing i need to buy for mine is a new video card, i've still got a geforce3 ti200, it's kinda showing the rest of my system up :(

sred2003
04-19-2003, 06:18 AM
do the right thing and get at least 512 mb of ram in there

Tormentor
04-19-2003, 07:09 AM
That comp is awsome!

Wolfmight
04-19-2003, 03:45 PM
Originally posted by fallenknight308@19 April 2003 - 05:09
@WOLF

If you don't mind my asking what did she run ya? :o
Not sure what you mean. You talkin about a benchmark test or applications?

I downloaded the latest Geforce drivers for windows xp/2000 and i changed the antialiasing to 4x, added texture sharpening etc. Then i went and tried some games. I played Quake 3 with full qual settings and highest res at normal rate. I played Americas army at 1024x768 with full qual in game settings at a normal speed. and I also played tribes 2 at 1024x768 with best qual settings and it ran.

Pretty nice. The antialiasing at 4x gives games a really slick look. You dont see those jagged edges with it that high ;)

"The Avatar Man"
04-19-2003, 03:55 PM
Originally posted by Wolfmight+19 April 2003 - 16:45--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Wolfmight @ 19 April 2003 - 16:45)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--fallenknight308@19 April 2003 - 05:09
@WOLF

If you don&#39;t mind my asking what did she run ya? :o
Not sure what you mean. You talkin about a benchmark test or applications?

I downloaded the latest Geforce drivers for windows xp/2000 and i changed the antialiasing to 4x, added texture sharpening etc. Then i went and tried some games. I played Quake 3 with full qual settings and highest res at normal rate. I played Americas army at 1024x768 with full qual in game settings at a normal speed. and I also played tribes 2 at 1024x768 with best qual settings and it ran.

Pretty nice. The antialiasing at 4x gives games a really slick look. You dont see those jagged edges with it that high ;) [/b][/quote]
lol where you from wolfmight?
he means money :lol: how much? ;) :)
ps. IS YOUR REFRIGERATOR RUNNING? :P

"The Avatar Man"
04-19-2003, 03:58 PM
Originally posted by sred2003@19 April 2003 - 07:18
do the right thing and get at least 512 mb of ram in there
judging by your sig you&#39;re a little bit of a ram freak,but I agree 512 is a minimum for a computer nowadays :)

Wolfmight
04-19-2003, 03:59 PM
Well also yea..i thought of that too.
I got the AMD 2400 chip for &#036;100
and I got the Gigabyte K7 Triton for &#036;70

There was a AMD2400+ECS motherboard deal for &#036;115, but ESC MOBO SUCKS&#33;&#33;

Schmiggy_JK23
04-19-2003, 06:59 PM
yes... you should be running at least 512 ddr...

Wolfmight
04-20-2003, 03:34 AM
what&#39;s the diff between DDR and SDRAM?

amphoteric88
04-20-2003, 05:54 AM
sdram works on only one cycle of the ram. basically, the ram is only doing something usefuly either when it&#39;s on an up cycle or a down cycle. ddr ram works on both the up and down cycles, hence Double Data Rate (DDR)

Wolfmight
04-20-2003, 02:35 PM
so DDR is better for say? or is Sdram better because it keeps things organized?

CornerPocket
04-21-2003, 07:14 PM
If your board supports DDR, go with that, the higher the mhz memory the faster. I use PC2700 DDR (333MHz).

amphoteric88
04-21-2003, 07:21 PM
on the ddr speed subject, i stupidly bought corsair xms3500 ddr ram. it&#39;s marketed to be able to run at 434MHz and i was running it at 400MHz. however, there&#39;s no real point running your ram faster than the fsb of your processor, the ram just basically sits waiting for something to do
i suppose the benefit of me buying such good ram is that i can run at very tight timings (2-2-2-5) at 333MHz

Prozac
04-21-2003, 07:39 PM
There was a AMD2400+ECS motherboard deal for &#036;115, but ESC MOBO SUCKS&#33;&#33;



Absoloutley nothing wrong with ECS mobo&#39;s. I&#39;ve built several machines using them and all have been extremely stable and reliable, not to mention reasonabaly fast, for the price. I actually recommend them along with MSI boards.

Amarjit
04-21-2003, 08:23 PM
Originally posted by Wolfmight@20 April 2003 - 03:34
what&#39;s the diff between DDR and SDRAM?
DDR RAM (in theory) is a specification of "Random Access Memory" that runs much faster than average and SD RAM. In effect, it doubles your RAM speed. New technologies such as DDR2 RAM improve even further on this technology.

I&#39;d recommend upgrading to 512 MB DDR RAM. Have you got FireWire [IEEE 1394, iLink]? TFT monitor? What&#39;s the speed of your DVD ROM? Mmmm...I&#39;d go for a 120,180-200GB HDD. What controllers? RAID, SCSI??

Wolfmight
04-21-2003, 09:38 PM
my my esc gave me trouble eve since i got it and it had a 1.2ghz althon thunderbird on it.

Blue_Seraphim
04-21-2003, 10:08 PM
get more ram do it do it. Never mix ddr and sdr lol.

amphoteric88
04-21-2003, 11:38 PM
basically, you want at least 512 meg of ddr 2700 ram
although, with the 2400, the fsb is only 266MHz, i think, so you don&#39;t need 333mhz ram, you only need 266mhz

amphoteric88
04-21-2003, 11:39 PM
Originally posted by Blue_Seraphim@21 April 2003 - 23:08
get more ram do it do it. Never mix ddr and sdr lol.
yeah, you can&#39;t mix ddr and sdram
the board will only supprt one kind anyway

Wolfmight
04-21-2003, 11:59 PM
so would i have to take out all my sdram and start useing the ddr?

amphoteric88
04-22-2003, 12:00 AM
you can only use one or the other
it&#39;s up to you, ddr is faster, but expensive

amphoteric88
04-22-2003, 12:03 AM
Q: My motherboard supports DDR and SDRAM memory modules. Can I mix the two types together?
A: No, DDR (Double Data Rate) and the older SDR (Single Data Rate) SDRAM are not compatible with one another. If your motherboard have DIMM sockets for both types, you must choose to go with one or the other

copied straight from another site
sorry to be the bringer of bad news :(

ooo
04-22-2003, 12:23 AM
ummm i like mine better :P

P4 2.66ghz
DDR2700 512mb RAM
80gb hard drive / 5gb hard drive
Logitech 340z speakers
Logitech Cordless Elite Duo Keyboard / Mouse
CDROM 52x MSI
CDRW 52x24x52 Lite On
1.44 Samsung Floppy
ATI Radeon 9000 64mb
Sound Blaster Live&#33; Creative Lab
Asus P4PE/Lan-Uay 845pe
Chieftec Dragon Case
Cheap 17inch monitor

Blue_Seraphim
04-22-2003, 12:41 AM
Its cool though. Just lose the sdr. The ddr works basically twice as well anyway. And ram is pretty cheap.

_John_Lennon_
04-22-2003, 07:51 AM
Yeah, to be honest, wolf your computer kinda sucks.........

Im running a

**Aquarius II Water cooled**
2.9 celeron processor (overclocked of course)
512 2700 DDR Ram
WD 80Gb Caviar Edition Hard Drive
Ti4400 128Mb Vid Card
48x24x48 Lite-On CD-RW
16X Lite-On DVD-Rom
ASUS Motherboard

With a 6 piece set of Creative Labs Inspire6600 Speakers.

All thanks to NewEgg, with exception of the speakers, for less than most of those crappy Dell systems you see. :D

Wolfmight
04-22-2003, 12:30 PM
Originally posted by _John_Lennon_@22 April 2003 - 08:51
Yeah, to be honest, wolf your computer kinda sucks.........

Im running a

**Aquarius II Water cooled**
2.9 celeron processor (overclocked of course)
512 2700 DDR Ram
WD 80Gb Caviar Edition Hard Drive
Ti4400 128Mb Vid Card
48x24x48 Lite-On CD-RW
16X Lite-On DVD-Rom
ASUS Motherboard

With a 6 piece set of Creative Labs Inspire6600 Speakers.

All thanks to NewEgg, with exception of the speakers, for less than most of those crappy Dell systems you see. :D
not sucks, your&#39;s is just faster..

what&#39;s the deal? it can run all the games out there fine still... ;)

my amd proccessor has more cache rate, 512k i think

CornerPocket
04-22-2003, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by amphoteric88@21 April 2003 - 18:38
although, with the 2400, the fsb is only 266MHz, i think, so you don&#39;t need 333mhz ram, you only need 266mhz
You have a point, based my input on my Athlon XP2800 (333mhz) system. :D

CornerPocket
04-22-2003, 01:13 PM
Originally posted by _John_Lennon_@22 April 2003 - 02:51
Yeah, to be honest, wolf your computer kinda sucks.........

Im running a

**Aquarius II Water cooled**
2.9 celeron processor (overclocked of course)
512 2700 DDR Ram
WD 80Gb Caviar Edition Hard Drive
Ti4400 128Mb Vid Card
48x24x48 Lite-On CD-RW
16X Lite-On DVD-Rom
ASUS Motherboard

With a 6 piece set of Creative Labs Inspire6600 Speakers.

All thanks to NewEgg, with exception of the speakers, for less than most of those crappy Dell systems you see.&nbsp; :D
@_John_Lennon_
Who cares what you have, post not based on that. Keep criticism to yourself. <_<

Should review the whole story behind this before making your negative comments. -Wolfmight- had pc issues on a previous system, search and review that post. -wolfmight- sees what he has now as a fast machine vs. what he had.

_John_Lennon_
04-22-2003, 05:42 PM
Umm, well I dont think your L2 Cache is 512Kb, I think its more like 256, as opposed to my 128......



But likewise, who cares that you got a faster system? I mean more power to you that you finally got upgraded, but none the less........

amphoteric88
04-22-2003, 05:57 PM
Originally posted by _John_Lennon_@22 April 2003 - 08:51
Yeah, to be honest, wolf your computer kinda sucks.........

Im running a

**Aquarius II Water cooled**
2.9 celeron processor (overclocked of course)
512 2700 DDR Ram
WD 80Gb Caviar Edition Hard Drive
Ti4400 128Mb Vid Card
48x24x48 Lite-On CD-RW
16X Lite-On DVD-Rom
ASUS Motherboard

With a 6 piece set of Creative Labs Inspire6600 Speakers.

All thanks to NewEgg, with exception of the speakers, for less than most of those crappy Dell systems you see. :D
why do you have to rubbish wolfmight&#39;s comp just cos you have a faster computer (a celeron (lol)).
look, this topic could get pretty overcrowded if everyone just said "hey, your spec is rubbish, mine is better..."
wolfmight has just bought a new comp, and is very pleased with its spec.
ok, so there are faster computers, but then who actually has the fastest computer available?
who has all the best components in one package?
i very much doubt anyone on this forum has the fastest computer available

no disrepect meant to anyones comp :P

_John_Lennon_
04-22-2003, 06:03 PM
Amp, you call my celeron crappy, but what kind of setup do YOU have?

amphoteric88
04-22-2003, 06:07 PM
Athlon XP 2700+ 333MHz FSB
ASUS A7N8X Deluxe
512MB Corsair XMS3500 C2 RAM (Running 2-2-2-5 333MHZ)
GeForce 3Ti200 64MB (209/500) (My only weak point, imo, and getting replaced soon)
80GB Seagate 7200 rpm HDD
420W Thermaltake W008R PSU

my point was that the athlon 2400+ cpu is probably just as good as your celeron (albeit overclocked)

_John_Lennon_
04-22-2003, 06:14 PM
Hehe, ya, well I didnt go COMPLETELY for performance, but I got the Celeron for 107 off of Newegg, and it did take 700Mhz of overclocking to finally make it respectible.

I remember before I overclocked it, on PC Mark, I was running about the same scores as people with 1700+&#39;s

I admit it, I was abit ashamed. :(

But yes, okay okay, more power to wolf, who finally got a good computer.

And yeah, he might not even need a computer faster than that, it all depends on what you do with it. Just like getting 3700 DDR RAM, for say his computer, it would be stupid.

But ya, I play UT 2003, Battlefield 1942, and Fifa 2003, so I do need the higher specs I suppose.

amphoteric88
04-22-2003, 06:20 PM
you just need to think a bit more before you post.
if you post things where you&#39;re basically saying "i&#39;ve got better stuff than you", you most likely won&#39;t win anything but dislike.
celerons are good value for money, but as you say, they take alittle bit of work to get them respectable in the performance area.
just think a little more before you post and you wont go far wrong :P

Wolfmight
04-22-2003, 11:50 PM
Originally posted by _John_Lennon_@22 April 2003 - 08:51
Yeah, to be honest, wolf your computer kinda sucks.........

Im running a

**Aquarius II Water cooled**
2.9 celeron processor (overclocked of course)
512 2700 DDR Ram
WD 80Gb Caviar Edition Hard Drive
Ti4400 128Mb Vid Card
48x24x48 Lite-On CD-RW
16X Lite-On DVD-Rom
ASUS Motherboard

With a 6 piece set of Creative Labs Inspire6600 Speakers.

All thanks to NewEgg, with exception of the speakers, for less than most of those crappy Dell systems you see. :D
Yea to be honest, we need to do benchmark tests. (Hey, slower AMD chips kicked faster Intel chips asses somehow. Search google if ya dont beilieve me)

_John_Lennon_
04-23-2003, 02:14 AM
Originally posted by Wolfmight@22 April 2003 - 23:50
Yea to be honest, we need to do benchmark tests. (Hey, slower AMD chips kicked faster Intel chips asses somehow. Search google if ya dont beilieve me)
Umm, I suppose that is true, but that could be based on Mhz only.
i.e. a 2400+ AMD chip could be matched aginst a 2.0 P4 only because a 2400 runs at a 2000 Mhz. In that case of course the AMD would win.

But yes, do you have PC Mark perhaps? Im sure your familar with www.madonion.com just get the free version from there if you dont already have it.

Prozac
04-23-2003, 03:03 AM
You guys / gurls are talking out of your arses &#33;&#33;&#33;....I&#39;ve been in the pc game longer than you can imagine..processor power is not the end all and be all, either are GFX cards....at the end of the day it depends on how YOU know your system works....money ain&#39;t everything chaps...lol....GROW UP

shenlong_wc
04-24-2003, 03:21 AM
MINE IS THE FASTEST

AMD Athlon Classic (Slot A) 750
512 SDram
GF4 ti4200
55gb hdd

well, at least it WAS 3 years ago :P

@prozac : given yr long exposure to gaming, you should know that processor/gfx/ram are THE issue when it comes to games.


at the end of the day it depends on how YOU know your system works
i dun see how knowing how my systems works is going to solve my problem of a laggy UT2003 @ 1024*768
the only solution i see is a new com with better specs, like wolf&#39;s ^_^


money ain&#39;t everything chaps...lol....GROW UP
no, YOU grow up. stop beig such a passe.

Wolfmight
04-24-2003, 12:28 PM
Althon will live on&#33;
i know 1.2ghz can run about n e games except Doom3 and stuff right now.

shenlong_wc
04-25-2003, 02:18 AM
Originally posted by Wolfmight@24 April 2003 - 20:28
Althon will live on&#33;
i know 1.2ghz can run about n e games except Doom3 and stuff right now.
my athlon 750 run doom3 at 4 fps
so who says a 1.2 wun run it ? it&#39;ll just be a tad slow .. lol

Fletch
04-25-2003, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by amphoteric88@19 April 2003 - 05:48
does your board have onboard lan?
my board (asus a7n8x) has dual onboard lan and i had a little problem installing the drivers for my 3com LAN port, the drivers on the board driver cd don&#39;t seem to be correct. they must be though, cos i had it working before i formatted. any people had problems setting up their 3com lan port on their asus a7n8x?
very nice comp by the way, the next thing i need to buy for mine is a new video card, i&#39;ve still got a geforce3 ti200, it&#39;s kinda showing the rest of my system up&nbsp; :(
I have that exact same motherboard/gfx card. Haven&#39;t noticed the ti200 slowing me up though - its a decent card - make sure you have plenty of RAM and put the same amount into both channels to take advantage of the dual DDR on the motherboard.

I didnt have any problem with the onboard LAN - put in the driver cd, clicked a few buttons and hey presto....

amphoteric88
04-25-2003, 11:13 AM
i got the lan problem sorted. i made an educated choice as to what drivers to install (really a guess, but it worked :D ). sorry not to say.
what cpu do you have fletch? i&#39;ve got the 2700. i&#39;m not really disappointed with performance, i can still run every game i have, but i just want a faster video card (probably a 9700).
i only have one stick of ram (512MB Corsair XMS3500 (running at 333MHz 2-2-2-5)
are you running two sticks of ram, and if so, do you think it&#39;s worth me buying another stick of ram (the same as my other one)?