First Boot-Out of range???

[Seedler]

I just finished assembling my first build, and everything is going fine up to the point where I'm ready to install windows from my dvd-rom. This is when my BenQ T705 17inch LCD monitor displays a message saying: out of range!

I triple-checked all cables and connections and nothing is connected wrongly.

Thanks in advance for help

[Seedler]

Sry for not doing research before asking questions, and now with a bit research on google I know that:

-This is a common problem with new LCD monitors

-It's a problem with the res/frequency of your monitor

-It means that the pc is asking your monitor to display at a res/frequency it can't handle

-You can fix it by connecting your old CRT monitor and going into windows and setting the res/frequency lower


My problem:
As this is a first boot with no OS installed, I have no ways of setting the res/frequency lower. Also, I do not have a LCD monitor. This problem occours whenever the CD drive loads the WIN XP CD. Please help thanks

[lynx]

Very strange, it supports refresh rates 50-76Hz and I've never known XP to use a anything outside that range as default.

Have you got a customised installation cd? If so, it may have been set to use a high refresh rate (though I don't know how).

[Seedler]

Very strange, it supports refresh rates 50-76Hz and I've never known XP to use a anything outside that range as default.

Have you got a customised installation cd? If so, it may have been set to use a high refresh rate (though I don't know how).

Thx lynx, I think the problem is with my Radeon X800GTO, I think it's forcing my monitor to use a res/frequency it doesn't support. Also, the BenQ T705 only supports 50-60hz refresh rate (frequency). Help VB and clocker plz

[clocker]

Do you have an old vid card you can swap in just to load Windows?

[lynx]

According to Benq (http://www.benq.co.uk/products/LCD/index.cfm?product=547&page=specifications) it supports 50-76 Hz, but whatever it is it is still not working for you.

I would do as clocker suggests if possible.

[tesco]

Hook it up to the monitor you're using now until windiws is installed :unsure:

[Virtualbody1234]

While it's booting... Press F8 and select Enable VGA Mode.

Edit. Sorry that only works with an existing installation.


Question: Do you see anything before that message? White text on black or BIOS information? Anything?

[Seedler]

Thx for help, went over to neighbors with my tower and installed windows using his monitor lol

YAY comp finally up and running, will be OCing quite a bit and running 3dmark tests. Thanks for all your help guys FST is great

btw, how much can u OC the sok 939 athlon 64 3200+ (2ghz) to? I heard it's capped at 3ghz, but i doubt I'll be able to get it that high with the original AMD fan. Also, is OC's ultra performance series dual channel RAM OC friendly?

[clocker]

YAY comp finally up and running, will be OCing quite a bit and running 3dmark tests. Thanks for all your help guys FST is great

Whoa there Nelly, back it down a notch.
Before you start overclocking it why not make sure what she'll do at stock speeds?
Use Everest to bench your RAM and see what options for memory timing your BIOS offers.
After you have it set up properly then you can begin to creep up the speed scale.

You'll also need a real good idea of the temp signitures of your main heat producers- probably the CPU, GPU and northbridge.
Pay close attention and be careful.

[Seedler]

YAY comp finally up and running, will be OCing quite a bit and running 3dmark tests. Thanks for all your help guys FST is great

Whoa there Nelly, back it down a notch.
Before you start overclocking it why not make sure what she'll do at stock speeds?
Use Everest to bench your RAM and see what options for memory timing your BIOS offers.
After you have it set up properly then you can begin to creep up the speed scale.

You'll also need a real good idea of the temp signitures of your main heat producers- probably the CPU, GPU and northbridge.
Pay close attention and be careful.

Thx for advice and I will take extreme caution when OCing

Dammit still need a PCI wireless adapter

[Virtualbody1234]

Why do you need to overclock that anyway. It's a powerful PC as it is.

Will that computer be used for some special purpose that will even let you notice the speed difference?

Is it worth risking your nice new equipment?

[zapjb]

Stop being practical VB:w00t:

[clocker]

Why do you need to overclock that anyway. It's a powerful PC as it is.
Sheesh VB, you are such a granny sometimes.
Of course he wants to clock it...what's the point of a big edick if you can't stroke it a bit?

Will that computer be used for some special purpose that will even let you notice the speed difference?
Probably not, but would you buy a Ferarri and never once shift into 6th?*

Is it worth risking your nice new equipment?
*Perhaps a bad analogy given your location. Would a Ferarri even pull sixth gear with the studded snow tires you'd have installed?
Personally, I think the risk of fatal hardware damage is minimal (given intelligent precautions/monitoring), but the frustration level can be very high...it's not as easy as it sounds.
I foresee one of two scenarios unfolding...
-Seedler takes his time, documents results, proceeds logically and manages to OC with a semblance of stability, OR
-Seedler ups the clock 600MHz in one fell swoop, crashes the PC and gives up. A twelve page bitch thread appears.

Either way, it all becomes interesting/amusing HW world fodder so let the games begin.

[Virtualbody1234]

*Perhaps a bad analogy given your location. Would a Ferarri even pull sixth gear with the studded snow tires you'd have installed?
Studded lugs don't exist for a Ferrari. I know this because I have in fact installed tires on a Ferrari. They have a policy where we had to pick up the wheels at the Ferrari dealership, install the tires and return with the assembly. It prevented us from "testing" the car. :cry:

Btw. I have 'studless' winter tires installed on my car. :snooty:

[Seedler]

Okay, I OCed a bit yesterday and these are the results:

Before OC:
Vcore 1.42v
+3.3: 3.28v
+5: 5.05v
+12: 12.03v
cpu temp: 36C
MB temp: 35 C
cpu fan: 3308 rpm
chassis fan1: 2033 rpm
chassis fan2: 2032 rpm
chipset fan?<---wuts this?: 5273rpm


After OCing cpu to 2.4 ghz (increased 1 multiplier and some mhz) and Ocing the x800gto to 420 mhz core, 510 mhz memory:

Vcore 1.42v
+3.3: 3.27v
+5.0: 5.06v
+12: 16.32v
cpu temp: 39C
MB temp: 37C
cpu fan: 3584rpm
chassis fan1 and 2: 2033rpm
chipset fan: 5772rpm



I'm quite happy with the results, and yes, I do need OC because I play HL2 lost coast, with OC, i get a 6 fps increment at 1280 by 1024 to around 53 fps.

When I look at the results, I still think I can get better OC results as my cpu temp/fan speed didn't even break a sweat and the air blowing outa my case is still cold. On the other hand, like VB and clocker said, I really dont want to fry my parts, so any suggestions as to how far I should OC or just stop right here?

[clocker]

On the other hand, like VB and clocker said, I really dont want to fry my parts, so any suggestions as to how far I should OC or just stop right here?
I never said you would fry parts...in fact I think it's highly unlikely you could.

The main consideration is not the danger, rather it's the benefit/stress ratio.
How much have you gained and at what price (quantified here as an increase in temp)?
How far you go is completely dependent upon your hardware and cleverness.