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theSpam
12-14-2005, 11:30 PM
What does everyone think of these specs:

CPU INTEL P4 630 3.0GHZ LGA775 2M RETAIL.......209.99
MB ASUS P5VD1-X PT880ULTRA S775 PCI-E..........79.99
DDR 1G PC3200/400 BUFFALO MS4003-1GB OEM.......99.99
HDD SATA WD 250G 7200RPM 8M WD2500JD OEM.......119.99
VIDEO ASUS N6600 256MB AGP 8X TVO/DVI..........189.00
CASE ATX 6161 420W USB.........................40.00

Prices in CAD.

Am I missing anything (Note: I'm reusing some optical and floppy drives)?

And should I go with AMD instead?
Ignore my ignorance, but how does a CPU that is stated to run at 2.0Ghz (e.g. AMD ATHLON 64 3200+ 2.0G S939) compare with a true 3.0Ghz CPU?

zapjb
12-15-2005, 12:06 AM
Get a real PSU.

tesco
12-15-2005, 12:29 AM
I'd go for the ahtlon 64 instead of the intel.
The AMDs do more work per cycle than the Intels so they run at slower speeds and run cooler.

Champ
12-15-2005, 01:28 AM
I do not think that you have a moniter listed there, that might be something you want to look into if you don't have one at your house.

theSpam
12-16-2005, 02:13 AM
I do not think that you have a moniter listed there, that might be something you want to look into if you don't have one at your house.

I have a monitor.

theSpam
12-16-2005, 02:15 AM
Made a small revision regarding the MB:

CPU INTEL P4 630 3.0GHZ LGA775 2M RETAIL.......209.99
MB ASROCK 775V88 S775 VPT880 SATA/A/LAN........89.99
DDR 1G PC3200/400 BUFFALO MS4003-1GB OEM.......99.99
HDD SATA WD 250G 7200RPM 8M WD2500JD OEM.......119.99
VIDEO ASUS N6600 256MB AGP 8X TVO/DVI..........189.00
CASE ATX 6161 420W USB.........................40.00

Any suggestions?

Does anyone else think I should go with AMD instead?

And is the N6600 a good choice for a video card? I plan on doing some gaming, but I don't want super high framerates with super high quality settings on a super high resolution.

Virtualbody1234
12-16-2005, 02:59 AM
...Does anyone else think I should go with AMD instead?
Absolutely.

suprafreak6
12-16-2005, 03:06 AM
agreed i recently made this amd 64 and im very satisfied with it

gsky
12-16-2005, 05:48 AM
yes go with an amd board and also you can't use an agp card on a pci-e board

zapjb
12-16-2005, 06:09 AM
BS PSU you got.

theSpam
12-16-2005, 09:40 PM
yes go with an amd board and also you can't use an agp card on a pci-e board

# ASRock 775V88+ Socket T (LGA 775) VIA PT880 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

AGP Slots: 1x AGP 4X/8X
CPU Type: Intel Pentium 4 Prescott/Celeron D
DDR Standard: DDR 400 (PC 3200)
Dual Channel Supported: Yes
FSB: 800/533MHz
Maximum Memory Supported: 4GB
Number of DDR Slots: 4x 184pin DDR
PCI Express x16: None
South Bridge: VIA VT8237
Supported CPU Technologies: Hyper-Threading Technology
# Model #: 775V88+

Anyways, it seems that a lot of people like AMD here.

But what bothers me about AMD is the fact that a processer is marketed at 3000+ but in fact it runs at 1.8Ghz. I know that the AMD can perform more instructions each time it processes, but can it really match the speed of a real 3.0Ghz processor?

Virtualbody1234
12-17-2005, 12:39 AM
...but can it really match the speed of a real 3.0Ghz processor?
You know now many times that same question has been asked here?

If you spend, lets say, $200 for an Intel CPU or you spend $200 on an AMD CPU then the AMD will outperform the Intel. That's what matters. Not the actual clock speed.

theSpam
12-17-2005, 02:55 AM
I'm hoping this is my final revision...then I can get this built.

Specs:

CPU AMD ATHLON 64 3200+ 2.0G S939 RETAIL.......189.99
MB ASROCK 939DUAL-SATA2 PCI-E ASR..............99.99
DDR 512M PC3200/400 BUFFALO M&S OEM (x2).......39.99
HDD SATA WD 250G 7200RPM 8M WD2500JD OEM.......119.99
VIDEO ASUS N6600 256MB AGP 8X TVO/DVI..........189.00
POWER SUPPLY ENERMAX EG301P-VE 300W 2FAN.......45.00
CASE ATX 6161 420W USB.........................40.00

Prices are in Canadian dollars.

Oh, and no one answered my video card question:


And is the N6600 a good choice for a video card? I plan on doing some gaming, but I don't want super high framerates with super high quality settings on a super high resolution.

Edit: Just do you guys know, the MB has both AGP and PCIe slots.

despikable
12-17-2005, 03:15 AM
well it seems that you have a pretty good deal there and you can easily game with the most recent games with that i just reccommend a bit more ram. Also maybe if you scope out ebay for a week you can get a good deal on good sual core processor for 200 buks i say this because games will eventually start using both cores and it will make your comp last longer anyways this is my opinion.

Virtualbody1234
12-17-2005, 04:12 AM
I'm hoping this is my final revision...then I can get this built.

Specs:

CPU AMD ATHLON 64 3200+ 2.0G S939 RETAIL.......189.99
MB ASROCK 939DUAL-SATA2 PCI-E ASR..............99.99
DDR 512M PC3200/400 BUFFALO M&S OEM (x2).......39.99
HDD SATA WD 250G 7200RPM 8M WD2500JD OEM.......119.99
VIDEO ASUS N6600 256MB AGP 8X TVO/DVI..........189.00
POWER SUPPLY ENERMAX EG301P-VE 300W 2FAN.......45.00
CASE ATX 6161 420W USB.........................40.00

Prices are in Canadian dollars.

Oh, and no one answered my video card question:


And is the N6600 a good choice for a video card? I plan on doing some gaming, but I don't want super high framerates with super high quality settings on a super high resolution.

Edit: Just do you guys know, the MB has both AGP and PCIe slots.
If you have a PCIe slot then use that type instead. In fact choose a motherboard that has only one type.

You will need more than 300W. Enermax is good.

Smith
12-17-2005, 02:02 PM
Intel blows, AMD rocks. Nuff' said.

clocker
12-17-2005, 02:10 PM
If you're building a new s939 system you'd be crazy to invest in an AGP vid card.
OR a board that supports both PCI-E and AGP.
Maybe this Asus (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131569) instead?

lynx
12-17-2005, 03:55 PM
The Nvidia 6xxx range are all PCI-E based as standard. In order to make them backwards compatible with AGP a converter chip has to be added. Naturally that costs money, so AGP cards are more expensive than the corresponding PCI-E card.
PCI-E card $120 US (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814121179)
AGP Card $149 US (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814121196)

The 6600 card is ok, but if you don't need the highest resolutions you might be better off with a 128MB 6600GT, or spend a little more on a 256MB 6600GT.

128MB $130 US (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814150098)
256MB $175 US (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130251)

theSpam
12-18-2005, 02:29 AM
How about this (as per Virtualbody134, clocker and lynx):

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/8876/newboxv29mr.png

lynx
12-18-2005, 03:13 AM
I see you aren't going to trust the 420W psu that comes with the case - very wise.

However, the 300W psu you've chosen isn't going to provide sufficient power, the low price is probably because they are having trouble getting rid of them. With those specs I think you need a dual 12v rail psu providing about 450W, so that's going to cost a fair bit more.

If you like Enermax, something like this (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817103457) is nearer what you need.

Other than that, your choices look fairly reasonable.

theSpam
12-18-2005, 09:46 PM
I am getting mixed responses about PSU wattage. Some people are saying I need a 350W PSU and others say I need a 450W PSU.

Anywho, would this suffice for the case/PSU:

Case/PSU..........ANTEC SOLUTION SLK1650B 350W TOWER..................79.00

Upon doing some research, the case does indeed come with an Antec PSU (I believe a brand which is highly regarded of).

Formula1
12-21-2005, 11:39 AM
this is the best valued psu, imo...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817103937

i would get a pci-e, i would also get an amd 3000 venice because its cheaper and just as good... if you can well.... i'd recommend a 6800gs over a 6600gt

forums.extremeoverclocking.com , is an in-depth forum.

cpt_azad
12-23-2005, 08:25 PM
Yes, definitely get a bigger PSU, 400 watts at least, 450 if you can. Also, look into dual core processors by AMD, I suggest the 3800+ dual core IF YOU HAVE THE MONEY. It's the best bang for the buck, trust me. Boxing day is around the corner so you'll have some good deals coming up. But other than the PSU, your setup is good :)

Formula1
12-24-2005, 12:44 AM
Also i would recommend this video card, as you can unlock it to the performance of an x850xt pe thats costs around $400+

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102634

DrBeerMan
01-24-2006, 07:36 AM
how about this mobo instead?

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?Sku=A458-2130

edit:didn't realize this thread was this old........sorry

accat13
01-24-2006, 01:56 PM
After reading a 3 pg thread it would have been nice to know what the final results were. People go to the trouble of trying to help and never find out the fruits of the labour...:(

suprafreak6
01-25-2006, 01:12 AM
agreed...

zapjb
01-25-2006, 01:43 AM
Posters with less than 50 posts usually leave ya hangin'.:frusty:

cpt_azad
01-25-2006, 02:19 AM
Also i would recommend this video card, as you can unlock it to the performance of an x850xt pe thats costs around $400+

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102634

which one :huh: theres like 20 on the first page, and 198 total.....

lynx
01-25-2006, 11:55 AM
Also i would recommend this video card, as you can unlock it to the performance of an x850xt pe thats costs around $400+

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102634

which one :huh: theres like 20 on the first page, and 198 total.....

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