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zapjb
12-21-2005, 05:10 PM
Symantec's range of antivirus software is under imminent threat from a loophole discovered by an independent security expert, who says the flaw could permit certain virus or worms to attack and destroy programs on users' PCs.

Alex Wheeler, an erstwhile Internet Security Systems consultant is said to have identified and announced the weak code area. Subsequently, Symantec issued a note to all users, through its DeepSight Threat Management System, informing and recommending steps to tackle the issue. Wheeler has said that the weakness is resident in the process of unzipping RAR compressed files. RAR files are formed by the WinRAR compression tool, designed and sold by RarLab. The RAR file type is popularly used for compressing and archiving data, especially huge music or video files.


If the RAR file is created in a certain malicious manner, it could tuck into its fold a virus or worm designed to run amok on the PC and gain destructive control of the machine.

The loophole has been christened "Highly critical" by software flaw monitor Secunia and "High" by its own parent, Symantec. The weak code is capable of causing what is known as a “heap overflow”, which further allows a hacker to implement random coding when an infected RAR archive is under scanning. According to Wheeler, the loophole is a consequence of non-checked 16-bit fields in RAR sub-block header formats.

Further, the advisory issuance warns that if the Symantec products have been aligned to check all incoming mail, the loophole could be taken advantage of from remote access without any other interaction from the user's end. The probability that most of the Symantec product range falls under this threat is also high, including its gateway service which is used for corporate setups. The problem definitely influences Symantec Antivirus Corporate Edition, Symantec Client Security, Symantec Brightmail Anti-Spam, Symantec Gateway Security, Norton Antivirus, both for Windows and Macintosh, Norton Internet Security and Norton Antivirus for MS Exchange. Worse, the code area afflicted with the weakness is licensed heavily to several vendors with numerous services and products at risk.

The warning from Wheeler says that though the flaw has not been really attacked yet, the danger is very potentially heavy, so to say. Dasher worm, the recently identified virus, came in hordes via RAR files.

Symantec users do not have any updated patch available to ward off the threat. In the meantime, Symantec has suggested that users disable auto-scanning of RAR type files and exercise care over opening such attachments too.

Historically, antivirus software has often been affected by such weaknesses and problems. This is the second instance of weakness in scanning functions of Symantec discovered by Wheeler. Earlier, in February, a similar scanning weakness was found by him vis-à-vis UPX type files. Wheeler is a reputed security expert specializing in discovering and analyzing security software flaws. Recently in 2005 itself, he unearthed some major flaws in big brand products like those of McAfee, Kaspersky Labs, Trend Micro, F-Secure and ClamAV. Every loophole discovered was focused on anti-virus scanning of compressed file types.

:source: Source: http://www.whatistheword.com/story/SciTech_437.html

silent h3ro
12-22-2005, 02:12 AM
Well now it's a imminent threat now that the loophole is posted all over the internet...

gugutza
12-22-2005, 09:13 AM
i have removed from my pc every single association with this P.O.C., almost 2 years ago!

zapjb
12-22-2005, 10:13 AM
I wonder if it's that hard to fix this. Or is Symantec just being Symantec by dragging their feet. I remember awhile back Kaspersky had a similar problem. But I think they fixed it in less than 8hrs.

peat moss
12-22-2005, 09:30 PM
Oh great winraw is the only zip program I use and of course Symantec is my poison aswell , thanx for the heads up Zapjb .


Just auto updated got virus defention version 12/21/05 rev .6 but of couse no change log . If there was ever a time I'd like to read one its now .

I'll be patient tho still a good program and I'm sure other antivirus are not far behind in this security problem but won't be rushing of to D/L some Rar files ! :D

Found this link for an update but no news yet , supposably their scrambling for a patch .


http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/security/SymantecAdvisories.html


Think I read wrong there is a patch ?




Mitigations
Symantec Security Response posted an AntiVirus based protection signature to LiveUpdate on December 20, 2005, providing a heuristic detection for potential exploits of the Symantec decomposer RAR archive vulnerability. This signature is available though LiveUpdate, to all desktop, server and gateway product versions of Symantec’s Security products and appliance solutions that contain the decomposer RAR archive. Symantec strongly recommends that customers immediately ensure their products are up-to-date to protect against possible threats.

sArA
12-22-2005, 10:38 PM
bugger......updated

peat moss
12-23-2005, 05:29 AM
bugger......updated








Ah typical woman comes on here and says in two words what it took me three paragraph's to explain............ Some thing sexy about that . :lol:

RealitY
12-23-2005, 08:55 AM
bugger......updated
Ah typical woman comes on here and says in two words what it took me three paragraph's to explain............ Some thing sexy about that . :lol:
Sheesh...

Was tempted to leave it at one word but considerned you might start looking at me funny.
Anyway thanks for the info and updated aslo.

oxygenuk
12-23-2005, 09:33 AM
who cares, norton/symatec suck donkey balls so i dont care what happens to them

sArA
12-23-2005, 08:03 PM
No two worder here I'm afraid....

Updated etc, and got back on the comp today after kids been on it and my firewall keeps crashing trying to connect to rmail.walla.com through prog system32(forward slash)csrs.exe

spyware detectors found a few bits but this is odd and seems to have come at around the same time as I updated.....any ideas guys?
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RealitY
12-23-2005, 08:34 PM
No two worder here I'm afraid....

Updated etc, and got back on the comp today after kids been on it and my firewall keeps crashing trying to connect to rmail.walla.com through prog system32(forward slash)csrs.exe

spyware detectors found a few bits but this is odd and seems to have come at around the same time as I updated.....any ideas guys?
I doubt the update is connected with your issues...

peat moss
12-24-2005, 09:30 PM
Ah typical woman comes on here and says in two words what it took me three paragraph's to explain............ Some thing sexy about that . :lol:
Sheesh...

Was tempted to leave it at one word but considerned you might start looking at me funny.
Anyway thanks for the info and updated aslo.


Funny ha ha ? No was teasing .

@Sara , mabye a System Restore is in order ? Or ask it softwareworld ? Thats the neat thing Hon , your not the only one . :)

gugutza
12-26-2005, 12:58 AM
who cares, norton/symatec suck donkey balls so i dont care what happens to them


good point!