The DaVinci Code

[JPaul]

What a load of pish, I won't be reading that well.

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[twisterX]

what the hell is the davinchi code.

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what the hell is the davinchi code.

a book?

[twisterX]

about????

[JPaul]

Dan Brown believes it's based on historical fact.

So do some of his readers.

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about????

A murder in the silent after-hour halls of the Louvre museum reveals a sinister plot to uncover a secret that has been protected by a clandestine society since the days of Christ.

[twisterX]

not my type of book

[ziggyjuarez]

most people know its bullshit.No need to expect any thing high from it.

[JPaul]

about????

A murder in the silent after-hour halls of the Louvre museum reveals a sinister plot to uncover a secret that has been protected by a clandestine society since the days of Christ.
Hoi, don't ruin it for the gullible befuddled dolts who might actually read it.

[twisterX]

ah feck it

[maebach]

I read it and I thought it was a really good book until the ending. Although some of the facts are wrong, the storyline and characters and theat kinda stuff is good.

[MagicNakor]

I've read it. It's a pretty good book. ;)

There are facts woven through the theories (most of which are fairly well-known anyway), though, which is why I imagine people seem to think it's less of a fiction novel and more of a historical account.

:shuriken:

[JPaul]

I've read it. It's a pretty good book. ;)

There are facts woven through the theories (most of which are fairly well-known anyway), though, which is why I imagine people seem to think it's less of a fiction novel and more of a historical account.

:shuriken:
I think you'll find there is pish woven thro' it, rather than facts. The theories are also the worst kind of bunkum. Wild hypothesis based on total conjecture, based on fraudulent "evidence".

People think it's a historical account because Dan Brown has stated that it's a novel based on actual historical events, records and art.

[Spider_dude]

all dan browns books are good reads but utter pish if you know what i mean. that angels and demons the pope got some nun up the duff, but then he didnt nail her he infact artificially inseminated her. then in digital fortress some super computer got melted and some guy got heart attacked by some assasin. was easy to read, read both books in 2 days but at the end i was like wtf? pish.

[JPaul]

all dan browns books are good reads but utter pish if you know what i mean. that angels and demons the pope got some nun up the duff, but then he didnt nail her he infact artificially inseminated her. then in digital fortress some super computer got melted and some guy got heart attacked by some assasin. was easy to read, read both books in 2 days but at the end i was like wtf? pish.
What a good precis, could you do some others, save me time in reading pish.

[Spider_dude]

most douglas coupland books are pish also.

[MagicNakor]

I think you'll find there is pish woven thro' it, rather than facts. The theories are also the worst kind of bunkum. Wild hypothesis based on total conjecture, based on fraudulent "evidence".

People think it's a historical account because Dan Brown has stated that it's a novel based on actual historical events, records and art.

There are facts woven through it, however. ;) I haven't read it in some time now, so I can't cite examples, but a few things corroberate history. More things sound plausible enough to people who only have a passing understanding of the era and/or da Vinci, and some things are outright "pish" (though those aforementioned people wouldn't know that).

I recall the Catholic Church being very upset with it.

My extensive arts and histories education finally pays off? Though, knowing this forum, I'll be asked to cite examples, which'll mean reading it again...guess I'd better dig it out. ;)

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[JPaul]

I recall the Catholic Church being very upset with it.


Didn't he make some ridiculous claims about Opus Dei in the book.

Oh and you can understand them getting a wee hair upset when he said that most of their teachings about Jesus were incorrect. I think most religions would get upset in similar circumstances. At least they didn't taka a fatwah out on him.

Or did they.

[GepperRankins]

based on fact :dabs:

[JPaul]

based on fact :dabs:
:nob: off, Rodney R Roddington Jnr.

[GepperRankins]

i'm just saying. a sensical theory is what started him thinking of the ideas for these books :smilie4:


so based on fact as in, fact started them, not that the stories are really tangled up with fact as much as people think :ermm:

[JPaul]

i'm just saying. a sensical theory is what started him thinking of the ideas for these books :smilie4:


so based on fact as in, fact started them, not that the stories are really tangled up with fact as much as people think :ermm:
The "theory" which he based the novel on was pish.

Strangely enough I did actually read "The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail" when it came out at first and did quite enjoy it. That however was about 20 years ago.

[GepperRankins]

:dabs:

not read the book, we do have it in the house though :ermm:


i'll read it and get back to you though. i do believe teh jesus survived the crucifixion and then went to do more family stuff :unsure:

[j2k4]

There are facts woven through it, however.

And just look at the reaction one can achieve by the 'weaving' of a few facts...

The ostensible "novel" becomes "proof" of a "conspiracy".

I am glad for such tripe; I can legitimately spend down my over-supply of punctuation. :dry:

[MagicNakor]

It's merely interesting to note, as many novels (and films) allege a great many things about the Catholic Church, which traditionally remains silent. Speaking out this time probably made people go, "Hmm. Maybe there's something to it."

What I would've done in that position though, I really can't say.

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[JPaul]

What I would've done in that position though, I really can't say.

:shuriken:
You just aren't Pope material.

[j2k4]

It's merely interesting to note, as many novels (and films) allege a great many things about the Catholic Church, which traditionally remains silent. Speaking out this time probably made people go, "Hmm. Maybe there's something to it."

What I would've done in that position though, I really can't say.

:shuriken:

True enough.

Sensitivities are rather high these days...

[GepperRankins]

i just look at it this way ... :smilie4:

[MagicNakor]

What I would've done in that position though, I really can't say.

:shuriken:
You just aren't Pope material.

For more reasons than you think. :lol:

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[hobbes]

What I would've done in that position though, I really can't say.

:shuriken:

Add a little baby cham to the mix and I think I know what JP thinks you would have done, you knob licker.


Thank you, I'll be taking things out of context for the remainer of the day.

[GepperRankins]

You just aren't Pope material.

For more reasons than you think. :lol:

:shuriken:
you believe in god? :o

[Gemby!]

the bit where he jumps out of the helicopter in angels and demons - LMAO

[JPaul]

You just aren't Pope material.

For more reasons than you think. :lol:

:shuriken:
Well I had always thought you 5hit in the woods, which is very Popesque

[Damnatory]

What a load of pish, I won't be reading that well.
Why not read it? That way you can understand how entertaining this fictional story is, rather than speculating.

Any story, whether fiction or not, deserves to be taken as seriously as this one has if the story is compelling enough. The "facts" that you're so intent on debunking, fact or fiction, were intended to be just another theory for people to contemplate, rather than the same old cookie-cutter reverent beliefs.

Though I must say, for being such a load of "pish", the Catholic Church has made quite a fuss about it, rather than ignoring it like they do with every other theory that threatens their beliefs system. Which at best seems, suspicious...

[MagicNakor]

I couldn't be Pope because I'm not Catholic.

Gutterminds.

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[Khan's Grape]

He has a very boring name so I doubt I shall bother to read any of his works.

[thewizeard]

I rather like the idea, to imagine that sons and daughters of Jesus still walk this satanic Earth...

[Damnatory]

He has a very boring name so I doubt I shall bother to read any of his works.
Yeah, cause everyone knows boring names result in terrible literature. :dry:

[JPaul]

What a load of pish, I won't be reading that well.

Any story, whether fiction or not, deserves to be taken as seriously as this one has
Why

[Khan's Grape]

He has a very boring name so I doubt I shall bother to read any of his works.
Yeah, cause everyone knows boring names result in terrible literature. :dry:

Name me 10 good writers with only one syllable in their surname.

I rest my case.

[Damnatory]

Yeah, cause everyone knows boring names result in terrible literature. :dry:
Name me 10 good writers with only one syllable in their surname.
I rest my case.

Anne Rice
Dean Koontz
Dan Brown
H.G. Wells
Edgar Allen Poe (Not an author, but you said writer didn't you...)
Stephen King
Mark Twain
Jules Verne
John Case
Oscar Wilde
:ermm: Those come to mind rather easily...

[Khan's Grape]

Name me 10 good writers with only one syllable in their surname.
I rest my case.

Anne Rice
Dean Koontz
Dan Brown
H.G. Wells
Edgar Allen Poe (Not an author, but you said writer didn't you...)
Stephen King
Mark Twain
Jules Verne
John Case
Oscar Wilde
:ermm: Those come to mind rather easily...

Koontz for feck's sake? Are you a mental at all?

Rice, Brown and King are all average writers at best. John Case is a fictional construct. Verne is French, Poe & Twain are American and Wilde doesn't count.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00020HBX2.01.THUMBZZZ.jpg

[MagicNakor]

That's a very... lenient usage of "good."

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[Damnatory]

That's a very... lenient usage of "good."

:shuriken:
Given the limit of one syllable, I mean, come on... :lol:

[JPaul]

That's a very... lenient usage of "good."

:shuriken:
Given the limit of one syllable, I mean, come on... :lol:
Yeah, but you chose to ignore that rule anyway.

[Damnatory]

Given the limit of one syllable, I mean, come on... :lol:
Yeah, but you chose to ignore that rule anyway.
Explain

[JPaul]

Yeah, but you chose to ignore that rule anyway.
Explain
Which part

[thewizeard]

...see thread, " Post Something"

[Barbarossa]

I couldn't be Pope because I'm not Catholic.


Is the Pope a Catholic? :huh:

[Spider_dude]

the pope is really a t-rex which was born really small, small enough to bite a mans face off and wear it me thinks.

[thewizeard]

..but that's OK because you can get a face-transplant these days....in France erm. .:lookaroun

[Biggles]

the pope is really a t-rex which was born really small, small enough to bite a mans face off and wear it me thinks.

An interesting theory and perhaps slightly more convincing than the Dracula one I have seen :shifty:

With regards the book, I haven't read it although I have seen a couple of documentaries. A hotch potch of conspiracies it would seem which as a novel is fair enough.


Clearly something was going with Leonardo and his Last Supper but Leonardo was a strange man given to performimg autopsies at night and writing his notes backwards etc., The depiction of John is seriously feminine no matter how it is spun but that might have more to do with Lenardo's sexuality than anything else.

[Spider_dude]

are you saying leonardo and baz were in a gay relationship? whatever will junno think?

[thewizeard]

It's not at all surprising, after nearly 2000 years ...
What actually happened to Jesus and his family, that's what the real story over the " code" and the Holy Grail, is about.
Mary plays an essential role in the Catholic belief, but not the Mary we are led to believe. The baby is also not Jesus. The baby is the Holy Grail, Jesus's blood line, protected by the Catholic church itself. Mark my words...within a short time the truth will be made public... I would say within 6 years...

....I have not read the book yet, although I do have it shared :)

[Barbarossa]

Whether the basis of the story is true or false does not stop it being quite a good book, imho.

Of course, even if it's all true, so what? Jesus was just an ordinary bloke after all... :dabs: Also, the fact that the Catholic church has shaped the bible and moulded the Christian faith in order to control the populace is much more accepted now than it was, say 100 years ago.

[JPaul]

Whether the basis of the story is true or false does not stop it being quite a good book, imho.

Of course, even if it's all true, so what? Jesus was just an ordinary bloke after all... :dabs: Also, the fact that the Catholic church has shaped the bible and moulded the Christian faith in order to control the populace is much more accepted now than it was, say 100 years ago.
That is spite of the fact that it didn't exist when the Old Testament was written.

The Catholic Church has no postion on whether Jesus was married or not. Neither has it any position on whether he had children or not. It really makes no difference with regard to either his divinity or his humanity.

Mary (of Magdala) has been ill treated by history. She was one of the most important figures in the New Testament.

[Barbarossa]

Whether the basis of the story is true or false does not stop it being quite a good book, imho.

Of course, even if it's all true, so what? Jesus was just an ordinary bloke after all... :dabs: Also, the fact that the Catholic church has shaped the bible and moulded the Christian faith in order to control the populace is much more accepted now than it was, say 100 years ago.
That is spite of the fact that it didn't exist when the Old Testament was written.


The Old Testament may indeed have remained untouched, which is probably why God is depicted as a vengeful spiteful old bastard in the OT, and some kind of peace n' love hippy-character in the NT...



The Catholic Church has no postion on whether Jesus was married or not. Neither has it any position on whether he had children or not. It really makes no difference with regard to either his divinity or his humanity.


It probably does to the Catholic church though, which is why I thought we are led to believe he was celibate, because he was above such things as pleasures of the flesh.


Mary (of Magdala) has been ill treated by history. She was one of the most important figures in the New Testament.

Didn't they do a cut n' paste job on teh Gospels, keeping the ones they liked and binning the ones they didn't like?

I admit, I'm commenting on a subject I have only a cursory knowledge of, and even less of an interest in.

Maybe I have in fact been brainwashed? This is quite likely... :ermm:

[maebach]

maybe that jesus general should come in here?

[JPaul]

The Catholic Church has no postion on whether Jesus was married or not. Neither has it any position on whether he had children or not. It really makes no difference with regard to either his divinity or his humanity.


It probably does to the Catholic church though, which is why I thought we are led to believe he was celibate, because he was above such things as pleasures of the flesh.


Mary (of Magdala) has been ill treated by history. She was one of the most important figures in the New Testament.

Didn't they do a cut n' paste job on teh Gospels, keeping the ones they liked and binning the ones they didn't like?


No, honestly, the Catholic Church does not take a position on whether Christ was married or not. It sort of follows from that they don't take a position on Him being celibate or not.

Some people argue that the "gnostic" Gospels were rejected by the early Church, the sectio which prevailed obviousement. This includes the Gospel according to Mary (of Magdela). The reason for this was that they thought they may be a wee bit mental. One speaks of Jesus as a child and how he used his miraculous powers to turn lumps of clay into living birds, do away with other children who annoyed him and stuff like that. The Church questioned where they got this information from and how likely it was to be true. It seemed incongruous with His later life and teachings.

[Spider_dude]

i liked in southpark the bit where they are reading the tablet moses brought down and it says celebrate not celibate. i dont however like the insinuation that priests molest wee boys.

[JPaul]

i liked in southpark the bit where they are reading the tablet moses brought down and it says celebrate not celibate. i dont however like the insinuation that priests molest wee boys.
Of course they do, so do accountants, teachers, telephone technicians, bank clerks, policemen, graphic artists, plumbers, lumberjacks, doctors, sailors, students, chefs, football managers, tree surgeons, driving instructors, vets ...

[manker]

i liked in southpark the bit where they are reading the tablet moses brought down and it says celebrate not celibate. i dont however like the insinuation that priests molest wee boys.
Of course they do, so do accountants, teachers, telephone technicians, bank clerks, policemen, graphic artists, plumbers, lumberjacks, doctors, sailors, students, chefs, football managers, tree surgeons, driving instructors, vets ...I think spd's point was that they're just not interested in him anymore :no:

[JPaul]

Of course they do, so do accountants, teachers, telephone technicians, bank clerks, policemen, graphic artists, plumbers, lumberjacks, doctors, sailors, students, chefs, football managers, tree surgeons, driving instructors, vets ...I think spd's point was that they're just not interested in him anymore :no:
Too old mate, he turned 14.

[manker]

Ah. Happy 14th, spd :01:

[JPaul]

Ah. Happy 14th, spd :01:
He was racing at Cowes, nobby.

[manker]

Ah. Happy 14th, spd :01:
He was racing at Cowes, nobby.A child prodigy.

You don't get many of them to the pound - even less to the dollar.

[JPaul]

He was racing at Cowes, nobby.A child prodigy.

You don't get many of them to the pound - even less to the dollar.
You want to pound a child prodigy.

One can only hope you mean punch to the ground.

[manker]

On a completely related note, that Dougie Howser guy was in Harold and Kumar go to Whitecastle.

Looked almost normal, he did. I didn't want to pound him and never have, FYI :smilie4:

[JPaul]

On a completely related note, that Dougie Howser guy was in Harold and Kumar go to Whitecastle.

Looked almost normal, he did. I didn't want to pound him and never have, FYI :smilie4:
I'm sure Mrs manker is pleased you have never pounded Dougie Houseboy.

[foxyboy656]

the flim the davinci code any got it

[Seedler]

Is it even out yet?

[maebach]

comes in theatres in june I think