Hardrives

[Duffman]

Hey just got these 2 new sata raptors, and now I can hear them spin all they up and they make a clicking noise, and computor reboots.

[zapjb]

The click of death. Almost as famous as the BSOD. Did they ever work at all? How new is new?

[clocker]

Go to Western Digital's website and get their diagnostic tools.
Run it and see what what it says.

[Duffman]

If were talking dead drive here, were talking dead fst member too.

[Virtualbody1234]

If were talking dead drive here, were talking dead fst member too.
What does that mean?

[Duffman]

I bought these WD raptors from clocky 2 weeks ago...

also. the wd diagnostic program doesn't even read the sata drives.

and also again, im just kidding =p

[clocker]

Do the drives show up in BIOS and what controller are you running them on?

Edit:
Just FYI, those drives were scanned and recertified before I sent them out.
I'm not sure that the WD Lifeguard Tools work on drives in a RAID array...I've never tried that.

[Duffman]

Yeah they show up in the BIOS, in the wd tools they only show up as a logical drive, I stuck a fan inbetween the two drives and the problem seems to have gone away, only time will tell now, they didn't feel hot. And did some major defragging to see if that had any effect on the crashing.

[clocker]

How are your drives mounted in the case?
Raptors are reputed to be noisy (although I never found them to be ) and hard mounting them may just be amplifying seek noises.

[Wolfmight]

What kind of noise do they make?
A constant clicking. A click here and there. A wine. A very loud constant wine and click. ?

If it's baffles you, try to make a recording with a mic and host it on http://www.putfile.com/ to give everyone an idea of what it sounds like.

[Duffman]

It was a loud whine, the drives were spinning as fast as they could, then a loud constant click for about 5 times then it crashed, I put a fan inbetween the drives sitting on the lower driver, defragged and I'm crash free for 2 days now, so that might have been the problem, although they didn't feel hot I don't know much about hard drive temp's, dot dot dot.

[Duffman]

hmm its doing it again, need more adice.

[zapjb]

Backup your data. Imo your HDD(s) face imminent failure.

[clocker]

I think you need to break your RAID array (sorry) and recertify the drives.
No way both drives are failing at the same time, so you need to isolate the bad one.

[lynx]

I think you need to break your RAID array (sorry) and recertify the drives.
No way both drives are failing at the same time, so you need to isolate the bad one.They could both be failing if the package was used for basketball practice. :shifty:

[Duffman]

break my raid array, there has to be a program that can read them as seperate drives for a test...

[Wolfmight]

Did you try checking or reseting your BIOS settings?
I don't know if there's a jumper on the back of a SATA drive, but I know incorrect jumper placement for IDE devices causes a "major" LAG during post and can also prevent windows from booting.
Did you try different cables?



I'm pretty sure you don't need to run a fan on those drives, because all hardrives are built to run without an external fan on it.
I have a 300GB External Hardrive without any fans and it has never shut-off due to overheating.

[clocker]

break my raid array, there has to be a program that can read them as seperate drives for a test...
Were you RAID 1-maybe, RAID 0- I don't think so.
Edit: The WD Diagnostics will NOT work on RAID arrays...I just tried.
In order to test, the drive must be listed as a "physical drive" but RAID arrays are only displayed as "logical drives" and are untestable.
Life is a bitch.

I don't know if there's a jumper on the back of a SATA drive
No, SATA drives are not jumpered as they cannot be daisychained like IDE drives, so there is no "master-slave" designation to worry about.

[Duffman]

Ok, status update, shit has gotten worse, im racing the clock to burn this new xp borg dvd, im gonna format back to my old 120 gig drive, format the raid array and run wd tools, im working now, ill report back asap, everyone pray for it not to be hd failure.

[Duffman]

Test Option: EXTENDED TEST
Model Number: WDC WD360GD-00FNA0
Serial Number: WD-WMAH91224997
Firmware Number: 530.K653
Drive Type: SATA
Capacity: 37.02 GB
SMART Status: PASS
Test Result: PASS
Test Time: 23:33:03, January 11, 2006

Test Option: EXTENDED TEST
Model Number: WDC WD360GD-00FNA0
Serial Number: WD-WMAH91401062
Firmware Number: 530.K653
Drive Type: SATA
Capacity: 37.02 GB
SMART Status: PASS
Test Result: PASS
Test Time: 23:46:02, January 11, 2006

thats what it said, for the first drive it said it had bad sectors but repaired them though.

[clocker]

So the drives pass,eh?
Now what's the theory?

[Duffman]

thats my question, I zeroed out both drives, i guess ill reinstall and see what happens

[Duffman]

So I'm back up now, everything seems cool, 8 minutes of uptime no problems, btw I used borgs windows xp disc for the first time, anyone else every use it?

[clocker]

I've never had any long-term luck with hacked/modified OS installs and much prefer to just tweak the MS version.

Good luck.

[zapjb]

I made my own with nLite. It's easy!