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scottwile
02-05-2006, 11:09 PM
Hey

I have the Nf7-s rev 2. Tried to do a flash with the flashing program that comes with the motherboard cd. Did a flash and windows told me to reset. so i clicked ok and it started resetting. I waited for a couple mins and it didn't finish resetting as it does quite often, so i power it off. Now when i try to turn it on there is noo beep and the monitor has no signal because i am assuming it has no bios. I tryed reseting the Cmos and that didn't help.. I'm wondering if there are any troubleshotting paths i can take too see if my motherboard is ruined or not.

Thanks

clocker
02-06-2006, 12:50 AM
Ouch.

The good news is that the board is probably fine, it's the BIOS that's fecked.
Here is one option. (http://www.biosrecovery.com/index.cfm?brcid=faq#general)
Dunno what they charge, it might be cheaper to buy a board from classifieds.

peat moss
02-06-2006, 01:01 AM
Another is hot swapping never had to try myself and you could feck up the working computer too . You did n't backup oh well live and learn . :(

suprafreak6
02-06-2006, 01:38 AM
how do i backup my current bios? and is there a chance something can mess up?

scottwile
02-06-2006, 03:54 PM
lastnight i took my ram out, to see if i could get the POST beeping to come back..... nothing happened.... so the only other troubleshooting path i could think of while waiting for replys from you guys was to take out the battery for the night....tried a boot this morning, no beeps or no monitor signal...took the ram back out and i got the POST beeping like it normaly would if it was missing ram... does this mean anything??

Virtualbody1234
02-06-2006, 05:22 PM
Is that a trick question?

Is it working properly now?

Chewie
02-06-2006, 05:30 PM
I don't know if it's the case with your board, but if the system won't POST after trying to overclock on some nforce2 boards you can clear CMOS by holding down the Insert key while you power on, then releasing Insert and hitting Del to go into BIOS setup.

It may work for you and you'll lose nothing trying it.

scottwile
02-06-2006, 05:45 PM
hey sorry about the confusion...
ok... this is how it is... when i take all the ram out of the motherboard i get continuous beeping.... when i put the ram back in, i don't get any beeps. normally when everything is working properly it makes 1 beep then goes into post (as you probably know).
i tried putting the ram back into the NF7-s, and allthough there was no post beep or beeping whatsoever, i tried resetting the CMOS with the jumper on the motherboard and it didn't fix the no signal, or give me the 1 post beep that it used to.

hope thats not overly confusing
let me know if it isn't

thanks

Virtualbody1234
02-06-2006, 06:08 PM
It isn't.

You're going to have to contact Abit to see if you can get a replacement BIOS chip.

suprafreak6
02-07-2006, 01:15 AM
wont that be hard to install?

clocker
02-07-2006, 01:27 AM
No.
The old chip pops out and the new one pops in.

scottwile
02-07-2006, 03:44 PM
what do you think the cost would be on that chip from ABIT.
and is the chip puller tool nessary to get the chip out?

Virtualbody1234
02-07-2006, 04:24 PM
Ask Abit about the cost (please tell us when you find out).

A puller isn't necessary but I highly recommend that you use one. The BIOS chip is in a PLCC-Socket. Get a PLCC-Tong.

http://www.jumperz.de/images/plcc-zange.gif

lynx
02-07-2006, 06:35 PM
Get your bios chip here. (http://www.abit-usa.com/abitparts/bios_chip_4.php)

scottwile
02-08-2006, 04:59 PM
Thanks alot lynx,
i'll order that and let you guys know how it goes.

is there anything that can be used as a makeshift bios puller tool?

does anyone here ever changed their bios?

zaphodiv
02-08-2006, 06:39 PM
I once left my puller at home and had to lever out a PLCC chip with a couple of flat blade watchmakers screwdrivers. It took me about half an hour to lever up each side a tenth of a mil at a time. A puller is the right way to do it.

I am ashamed to admit the first time I used a puller I pushed down too hard instead of just squeezing and snapped a corner off a medium-cost chip while the boss was watching.

Virtualbody1234
02-08-2006, 08:25 PM
A makeshift tool really isn't the correct way but if you must...

Try very small screwdrivers or bent some paperclips something like:

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/770/bentpaperclip7gt.gif

clocker
02-08-2006, 10:23 PM
Real Americans would use this...
http://www.yourdictionary.com/images/ahd/jpg/A4crowba.jpg




Once.:blushing:

suprafreak6
02-09-2006, 01:30 AM
hahah reminds me of hl2 ahhh good times wackin computers instead of moles

scottwile
02-15-2006, 11:17 PM
hey boys


got the chip today



when i get the old one out, is there a certain way the new one goes in?

scottwile
02-15-2006, 11:21 PM
figured it out
thansk anyways.... i'll let you know if its working

Virtualbody1234
02-16-2006, 12:06 AM
... i'll let you know if its working
Standing by...

clocker
02-16-2006, 12:06 AM
figured it out
thansk anyways.... i'll let you know if its working
Figured what out?

Virtualbody1234
02-16-2006, 12:07 AM
figured it out
thansk anyways.... i'll let you know if its working
Figured what out?

hey boys


got the chip today



when i get the old one out, is there a certain way the new one goes in?

clocker
02-16-2006, 12:11 AM
Aha...he has no sig.
That last line nestled into the space where one normally goes.

Or I just plain missed it.

Virtualbody1234
02-16-2006, 12:27 AM
Aha...he has no sig.
That last line nestled into the space where one normally goes.

Or I just plain missed it.
Probably. ;)

scottwile
02-16-2006, 01:38 AM
I'm up and running


the processs only took 10 mins when i used a special tool my dad found


thanks alot for all the help boys

Virtualbody1234
02-16-2006, 02:01 AM
Great news!

Good work. http://www.mcbrien.plus.com/liam/img/smilies/thmbup.gif