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bulio
04-22-2003, 10:35 PM
I heard from someone that kazaa movies are illegal, but on certain sites such as the us constitution says that it is leagal as long as don't share. Whats the truth?

Darth Sushi
04-22-2003, 10:40 PM
Yes, it is illegal to share, and we are all going to hell for doing it.

pyromonkey
04-22-2003, 10:43 PM
yeah... the U.S constitution says that... but i'm not in the U.S!!!

bulio
04-22-2003, 10:57 PM
the national film board also states that.

wolfman10_2000
04-22-2003, 11:07 PM
I have over 60 movies and live in the US if they want to charge me with something they would of done it along time ago

Schmiggy_JK23
04-23-2003, 12:08 AM
Yes its illegal to share, and its illegal to have a copy of something you didnt pay for.

So my question is... two fold...

1. If you have a movie on your pc right, say daredevil, and they buy the dvd, does that mpg on your pc become legal for you to have? Or does the DMCA make that illegal too?

2. If you have the DVD first, and then get a copy of the file off the net, is that illegal?

doesnt the *gay * DMCA *gay*, make it illegal to cirumvent any digital encryption, or copyright? if so, then both of my questions are prolly yes, they are illegal.

any one know for sure?

Livy
04-23-2003, 12:09 AM
its only illegal if you get caught. :D

bulio
04-23-2003, 12:12 AM
what r the chances of getting caught?

Jibbler
04-23-2003, 12:15 AM
You have a better chance of winning the lottery than getting caught. That's not a joke. :huh:

sk8punk151
04-23-2003, 12:15 AM
Originally posted by bulio@23 April 2003 - 01:12
what r the chances of getting caught?
Depending on the country you live, VERY slim. If you live outside the US I believe there is a program that makes it so no one can know your sharing or downloading. Its on this site, but I dont know where. Quit being paranoid though because I have about 2 grand worth of pirated material and no one has done jack shit to me ever about it.

johnnytightlips2
04-23-2003, 12:49 AM
damn goverment they can never bring down the underground system and we still break every rule in the book and they cant do notin. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Helium Freak
04-23-2003, 03:00 AM
Originally posted by Schmiggy_JK23@23 April 2003 - 00:08
Yes its illegal to share, and its illegal to have a copy of something you didnt pay for.

So my question is... two fold...

1. If you have a movie on your pc right, say daredevil, and they buy the dvd, does that mpg on your pc become legal for you to have? Or does the DMCA make that illegal too?

2. If you have the DVD first, and then get a copy of the file off the net, is that illegal?

doesnt the *gay * DMCA *gay*, make it illegal to cirumvent any digital encryption, or copyright? if so, then both of my questions are prolly yes, they are illegal.

any one know for sure?
hmm last i checked your legaly entitled to own a back up copy of any physicaly stored media (cd, dvd, casette etc...) so provided they cant tell when you downloaded a film, and when you bought it on dvd then number 1 would be legal... for number 2 same applies... you buy the DVD, rip it and back it up on your PC and maybe burn it to a few CDs or DVDs ... so long as they are PERSONAL use only its perfectly legal ... its only when you share your braking the law... but like everyone says... who gives a fk? no ones gonna catch you :D

Rip The Jacker
04-23-2003, 03:41 AM
Practically everything on Kazaa is illegal. Many people download full albums off Kazaa, then burn em on CDs. If this was legal, people would be able to walk into a music store, pick up and CD, and just walk out with it. It's practically the same thing, either way you get a muisc CD you didn't pay for.

sk8punk151
04-23-2003, 04:00 AM
Originally posted by KrackHead2k@23 April 2003 - 04:41
Practically everything on Kazaa is illegal. Many people download full albums off Kazaa, then burn em on CDs. If this was legal, people would be able to walk into a music store, pick up and CD, and just walk out with it. It's practically the same thing, either way you get a muisc CD you didn't pay for.
tru dat. and the chick on your sig is fine B)

arkangel
04-23-2003, 04:29 AM
Stop being so paronoid if you're so worried about getting caught than dont use kazaa and go spend the your money in a store to buy the movie. dont worry no one really gives a rats @ss on your downloading it's mainly the corporate suites that are pissed because they are not getting money for what is "theirs" :blink:

Rip The Jacker
04-23-2003, 04:34 AM
Originally posted by sk8punk151@23 April 2003 - 05:00
tru dat. and the chick on your sig is fine B)
Yea, whoever she is, she is fiiinnneee! B)

clocker
04-23-2003, 04:48 AM
AAAHHHH, ignorance truely is bliss, is it not?
Of course "sharing a file " on Kazzaa is illegal.
It isn't theft, it is copyright infringement (thanks, JmiF).
While there may be safety in numbers the threat of "getting caught" DOES exist and a casual perusal of the newspapers will show increasing numbers of casualties.
I certainly don't want to sound alarmist but at least wake up and protect yourselves.

I myself have wrapped my computer in tin foil to shield it from the X-rays of the RIAA satellites...

Schmiggy_JK23
04-23-2003, 10:55 AM
I looked it up...

and technically, under the DMCA... it is illegal to copy/back up your own personal dvds, and software, and cds that are digitally encrypted... bullshit isnt it...

If you have to bypass security, or encryption to do it, your breaking the law, check this article... Write up about DMCA and dvds (http://www.protectfairuse.org/policymakers/policy_solutions.html)

currently many people are pushing for changes in the DMCA, as for just that, it doesnt allow for personal back up copies, which many say violates the supreme courts ruling of "fair use", years ago... read up on it... very intresting.

RGX
04-23-2003, 12:22 PM
Yes, tis illegal, but as i look at the bottom of K-lite now, I can see that there are 3,765,687 people sharing 6,468,608 Gbs of data, most of it illegal. There is no way they can catch 4 million people, the only thing they really care about catching is child pornography, and rightly so.

The only reason i use Kazaa is because i do not have much money, and do not want to be ripped off. Here in the UK, it is getting beyond belief. 40 quid for a game? 15 for an album? Convert that into dollars, its one hell of a lot of money. I only pay if i believe that the people who made the product deserve my money, i.e. if Guns and roses bought out a new album, id buy it, because i am a fan and want to support them and their music. I am planning to buy "enter the matrix" (the game) becuase i believe they have put sufficient effort into it. The same way i am planning to see both the matrix movies, and the final LOTR movie, because I ma happy to support them.

I know many who do the same, and as a musician, this is how i would want it to be done

I will happily stop downloading if prices are lowered and we get the products at the price we deserve them

-=Hellfire=-
04-23-2003, 05:50 PM
who really cares.... u dont hear of many people getting arrested for it... :D

MusicWorld
04-23-2003, 06:13 PM
Originally posted by Darth Sushi@22 April 2003 - 23:40
Yes, it is illegal to share, and we are all going to hell for doing it.
;) Yes you are.Share Music instead with your common Man and you shall be awarded at the end of this life. o:)

Crackedup
04-23-2003, 06:47 PM
If you are worried about Big bRoThEr trying to trace and hassle you make sure you use the following:

A/ A decent firewall

B/ Make Use Of the KaZaA L privacy patch

C/ Install Peer Guardian which bans all the RIAA etc sites

As Citizen Smith used to say 'Power to the People'

PS My heart really goes out (not) to the film companies who have recently announced xxx $ billion profits from DVD sales.

:ph34r: :ph34r: :ph34r: :ph34r:

skinzz
04-24-2003, 05:11 AM
I think of it as letting my friend borrow a movie I own. They just never return it. I'm sure that's never happened to anyone else. Now where is that damn thing?

nahan
04-24-2003, 06:38 AM
I think the copy right laws only prevent people from profiting from copies.
Like if you rent or purchase an illegally copied movie.

Blue_Seraphim
04-24-2003, 06:51 AM
If the arrest 1 person, they will have to arrest us all :o

Not gonna happen :P

I need a smiley holding up the finger in here for are fans at the Riaa and the rest. Somebody make a finger flailing smiley to show are love..... Awwwwwww.

nahan
04-24-2003, 07:05 AM
Some single person or a small group will be the first and the prosecution will try to make an example of him/hers .

Blue_Seraphim
04-24-2003, 07:09 AM
Yea i guess its possible. Someone might have to take one for the team. Any volunteers? :D

FuNkY CaPrIcOrN
04-24-2003, 10:32 AM
Originally posted by Blue_Seraphim@24 April 2003 - 02:09
Yea i guess its possible. Someone might have to take one for the team. Any volunteers? :D
:D I say put ShareDaddy in there.They will show him what the words Share and Daddy mean. :P

nahan
04-24-2003, 11:51 AM
Dunn Dunn DUNN !
(The sound of the RIAA entering the forum to hunt share daddy down)

"The Avatar Man"
04-24-2003, 12:34 PM
Originally posted by sk8punk151+23 April 2003 - 05:00--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (sk8punk151 @ 23 April 2003 - 05:00)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--KrackHead2k@23 April 2003 - 04:41
Practically everything on Kazaa is illegal. Many people download full albums off Kazaa, then burn em on CDs. If this was legal, people would be able to walk into a music store, pick up and CD, and just walk out with it. It&#39;s practically the same thing, either way you get a muisc CD you didn&#39;t pay for.
tru dat. and the chick on your sig is fine B) [/b][/quote]
well actually downloading it then burning it IS HARDER then just walking into the store and walking out.
it&#39;s more like walking in grabbing the cd,doing a few pushups THEN walking out :D

"The Avatar Man"
04-24-2003, 12:37 PM
Originally posted by Blue_Seraphim@24 April 2003 - 07:51
. Somebody make a finger flailing smiley to show are love..... Awwwwwww.
best I could find
http://mobilemagic.sanook.com/content/screenSaver/66892.gif

Blue_Seraphim
04-24-2003, 06:56 PM
:D

Got_brains?
04-25-2003, 12:42 AM
Uhm, I didnt read this page, but didnt you know that KAZZA IS ILLEGAL?

EDIT: But the court rooms dont have to know that&#33; ;) :lol:

Confuzzled
04-30-2003, 07:34 AM
Originally posted by Crackedup@23 April 2003 - 19:47
If you are worried about Big bRoThEr trying to trace and hassle you make sure you use the following:

A/ A decent firewall

B/ Make Use Of the KaZaA L privacy patch

C/ Install Peer Guardian which bans all the RIAA etc sites

As Citizen Smith used to say &#39;Power to the People&#39;

PS My heart really goes out (not) to the film companies who have recently announced xxx &#036; billion profits from DVD sales.

:ph34r:&nbsp; &nbsp; :ph34r:&nbsp; &nbsp; :ph34r:&nbsp; &nbsp; :ph34r:
Do I dl that Peer Guardian thing from Kazaa then ??? I have been searching for it.. or is there a site that I dl it from ??? :blink:

killallhippies
04-30-2003, 11:07 PM
Fact: Who gives a fuck.
Fact: The amarican government doesn&#39;t give a fuck about the constitution so why should you? fuck &#39;em&#33;

Ynhockey
04-30-2003, 11:14 PM
Yes its illegal to share, and its illegal to have a copy of something you didnt pay for.
So my question is... two fold...
1. If you have a movie on your pc right, say daredevil, and they buy the dvd, does that mpg on your pc become legal for you to have? Or does the DMCA make that illegal too?
2. If you have the DVD first, and then get a copy of the file off the net, is that illegal?
doesnt the *gay * DMCA *gay*, make it illegal to cirumvent any digital encryption, or copyright? if so, then both of my questions are prolly yes, they are illegal.
any one know for sure?

I beleive it&#39;s legal only if you rip/copy the movie yourself.

As for what&#39;s the chance of getting caught, it&#39;s almost certain if you use a computer in a college in the US, otherwise, the chance is almost none - as in 1 to 5 000 000... if you live in a non-English country then the chance is 0.

edim
05-03-2003, 08:52 PM
the next gen windows os will make it really hard to pirate movies and software. read this if your interested :(

http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html