FA Cup Sixth Round Draw

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Full draw:

Charlton v Middlesbrough


Aston Villa or Manchester City v Bolton or West Ham


Chelsea v Newcastle United


Birmingham v Liverpool

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There's a few teams left in it that have got the better of Chelsea in recent times. I think NUFC's main hope is a draw at Stamford and a replay at St. James' ftw.

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Ah, the UK's second best domestic cup competition.

I hope Newcastle win it but that Shearer's aids keeps him out of the line-up for the final.

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Ah, the UK's second best domestic cup competition.

I hope Newcastle win it but that Shearer's aids keeps him out of the line-up for the final.

His aids is getting the better of him I hear.

Here's a picture of him at Saturday's match after he had swapped shirts with a Southampton player.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41336000/jpg/_41336874_shearersoton270.jpg

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You can tell it's the bad aids too because his hair has gone all bouffanted and ghey.

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Ah, the UK's second best domestic cup competition.



CIS Cup FTW

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They've decided to have the final at the Millennium Stadium again, presumably because there's a fairly good chance of an all-London final... :frusty:

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I've just been reading about the failure of Multiplex to build the new Wembley in time. With them having now spent in excess of one BILLION UK pounds (a thousand million - not the traditional billion, mind you), you'd expect them to be able to deliver a more promising statement than 'Well, we are 70% sure that it will be done by the 13th of May'.

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This incompetent firm has already missed three deadlines.


People tend to take the piss when government funding is offered. I was involved in a very small way with the construction of the Millennium Stadium in Cardiff (drove there every Friday afternoon to deliver wage slips to a few sub-contractors :blushing:). I never did manage to catch anyone doing any work. Everyone there seemed to be milling around, pushing sweeping brushes in a disinterested manner.

However, Laing managed to complete the job (seven years ago) on time for a relatively prudent £130m.

Now, I've been to the Millennium Stadium to watch games on at least 30 occasions since then, possibly nearer 40 now I'm thinking about it - and it's an absolutely magnificent place, Old Trafford probably comes close but doesn't really rival it as the best stadium in the UK. I can't imagine Wembley being that much better - certainly not £900m better.

Wtf has happened to all the money.

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I've just been reading about the failure of Multiplex to build the new Wembley in time. With them having now spent in excess of one BILLION UK pounds (a thousand million - not the traditional billion, mind you), you'd expect them to be able to deliver a more promising statement than 'Well, we are 70% sure that it will be done by the 13th of May'.

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This incompetent firm has already missed three deadlines.


People tend to take the piss when government funding is offered. I was involved in a very small way with the construction of the Millennium Stadium in Cardiff (drove there every Friday afternoon to deliver wage slips to a few sub-contractors :blushing:). I never did manage to catch anyone doing any work. Everyone there seemed to be milling around, pushing sweeping brushes in a disinterested manner.

However, Laing managed to complete the job (seven years ago) on time for a relatively prudent £130m.

Now, I've been to the Millennium Stadium to watch games on at least 30 occasions since then, possibly nearer 40 now I'm thinking about it - and it's an absolutely magnificent place, Old Trafford probably comes close but doesn't really rival it as the best stadium in the UK. I can't imagine Wembley being that much better - certainly not £900m better.

Wtf has happened to all the money.

For clarification: £1,000,000,000 = $∞

We were just talking about this at work. The Millennium stadium is a fantastic venue, and was sort of built quietly overnight without any fuss and bother, and as you say, on-time and on-budget. It also has a retractable roof, FTW :01:

The whole Wembley thing has been an embarrassment, and doesn't bode well for the Olympics really, does it? They'd better start building yesterday, or it's going to make the Athens last-minute panic look like a walk in the park. :no:

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the new wembley is probably late since you have to live in the london borough of brent to work on the site. kinda cuts down on the number of people you can actually hire.

The cost is probably due to the differnce between working on a site in central london and in cardiff. granted £900 million difference is still massive.

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the new wembley is probably late since you have to live in the london borough of brent to work on the site. kinda cuts down on the number of people you can actually hire.

The cost is probably due to the differnce between working on a site in central london and in cardiff. granted £900 million difference is still massive.Well, you're talking pish with the second point - the labour cost would increase by maybe 50% because of the location - but the raw materials would cost the same. You're talking an overall 10-15% increase due to location. Tops. That brings the cost up to something like £150m - factor in inflation at 4% and you have approx £200m.

Why do you have to be from Brent :blink:

I'd not heard that before. Seems to be a really stupid, even illegal, restriction of trade.

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It was some sort of goverment initiative to get the lazy no good scumbags of brent working again. brent has high unemployment and high drugs/gun crime rates.
My brother tried to get a job there and was refused because we lived in ealing which is still only 20 mins away . He then tried again using my aunties adress in harlesden (which is in brent) and was accepted straight away because they have a shortage of decent people.

what was on the old millenium stadium site? Did they have to rip down a stadium the size of wembley and then rebuild it from stratch?

transport around there is piss poor to say the least. The north circular is one of the biggest blackspots in the country, moving all that rubble takes time and money.

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transport around there is piss poor to say the least. The north circular is one of the biggest blackspots in the country, moving all that rubble takes time and money.

Well that's their own stupid fault. They should have built the new national stadium next to the Birmingham NEC. Everyone who doesn't work at Lancaster Gate knows that. :shifty:

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It was some sort of goverment initiative to get the lazy no good scumbags of brent working again. brent has high unemployment and high drugs/gun crime rates.
My brother tried to get a job there and was refused because we lived in ealing which is still only 20 mins away . He then tried again using my aunties adress in harlesden (which is in brent) and was accepted straight away because they have a shortage of decent people.

what was on the old millenium stadium site? Did they have to rip down a stadium the size of wembley and then rebuild it from stratch?

transport around there is piss poor to say the least. The north circular is one of the biggest blackspots in the country, moving all that rubble takes time and money.Yeah, they had to demolish Cardiff Arms Park to build the stadium. The changed the pitch from East-West to South-North, as I recall.

Your points are getting worse. The Millenium Stadium is slap bang in the CBD of Cardiff - Wembley is on the outskirts of London near a motorway. Fine, there is traffic during the day but at the dead of night (when rubble is moved by sensible people), there is no traffic.

Your anecdotal tale of the employment strategy of Multiplex is probably limited to giving the jobs to people from Brent before anyone else. It won't mean a labour shortage.

That really would be mental.

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remember ashburton grove is costing arsenal £357 million and is a much smaller stadium. I do agree with you that £900 million is over the top even if it does include that stupid arch thingie.

your estimation of £200 million has got to be a little bit off.

http://www.stadiumguide.com/ashburtongrove.htm

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Well, if you work it out per seat.

Arsenal's Emirates Stadium ~ £6000 per seat
Cardiff Millennium Stadium ~ £1750 per seat
Brighton's Falmer Stadium ~ £2000 per seat

Wembley Stadium ~ £12,000 per seat

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"I would like to emphasise that WNSL have a fixed-price contract with Multiplex and the total construction cost remains at £757m." - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/4731888.stm

works out about £8400 a seat

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How do these costs breakdown?
The purchase of the land and early design fees cost £120 million.The basic cost of building the stadium is £352 million Demolishing the old stadium and fitting out the new will cost £99 million.The contribution to local infrastructure improvements is £21 million.Financing the project, management and other costs amount to £165 million.