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Barbarossa
02-23-2006, 10:45 AM
By combining quantum computation and quantum interrogation, scientists at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign have found an exotic way of determining an answer to an algorithm – without ever running the algorithm.

Using an optical-based quantum computer, a research team led by physicist Paul Kwiat has presented the first demonstration of "counterfactual computation," inferring information about an answer, even though the computer did not run. The researchers report their work in the Feb. 23 issue of Nature.

Quantum computers have the potential for solving certain types of problems much faster than classical computers. Speed and efficiency are gained because quantum bits can be placed in superpositions of one and zero, as opposed to classical bits, which are either one or zero. Moreover, the logic behind the coherent nature of quantum information processing often deviates from intuitive reasoning, leading to some surprising effects.

"It seems absolutely bizarre that counterfactual computation – using information that is counter to what must have actually happened – could find an answer without running the entire quantum computer," said Kwiat, a John Bardeen Professor of Electrical and Computer Engineering and Physics at Illinois. "But the nature of quantum interrogation makes this amazing feat possible."

Sometimes called interaction-free measurement, quantum interrogation is a technique that makes use of wave-particle duality (in this case, of photons) to search a region of space without actually entering that region of space.

Utilizing two coupled optical interferometers, nested within a third, Kwiat's team succeeded in counterfactually searching a four-element database using Grover's quantum search algorithm. "By placing our photon in a quantum superposition of running and not running the search algorithm, we obtained information about the answer even when the photon did not run the search algorithm," said graduate student Onur Hosten, lead author of the Nature paper. "We also showed theoretically how to obtain the answer without ever running the algorithm, by using a 'chained Zeno' effect."

Through clever use of beam splitters and both constructive and destructive interference, the researchers can put each photon in a superposition of taking two paths. Although a photon can occupy multiple places simultaneously, it can only make an actual appearance at one location. Its presence defines its path, and that can, in a very strange way, negate the need for the search algorithm to run.

"In a sense, it is the possibility that the algorithm could run which prevents the algorithm from running," Kwiat said. "That is at the heart of quantum interrogation schemes, and to my mind, quantum mechanics doesn't get any more mysterious than this."

While the researchers' optical quantum computer cannot be scaled up, using these kinds of interrogation techniques may make it possible to reduce errors in quantum computing, Kwiat said. "Anything you can do to reduce the errors will make it more likely that eventually you'll get a large-scale quantum computer."

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In addition to Kwiat and Hosten, co-authors of the Nature paper are graduate students Julio Barreiro, Nicholas Peters and Matthew Rakher (now at the University of California at Santa Barbara). The work was funded by the Disruptive Technologies Office and the National Science Foundation.

Source: http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2006-02/uoia-qcs022106.php

Discuss. :blink:

Mr JP Fugley
02-23-2006, 01:40 PM
Everything I ever believed, ever, was wrong.

thewizeard
02-23-2006, 01:56 PM
I use the same technique and algorithm in deciding whether or not I should go to work...every day... and it works.. I never have to go to work...yet my work gets done.

asmithz
02-23-2006, 02:13 PM
Intresting....

fkdup74
02-23-2006, 02:22 PM
Discuss. :blink:

we've already had the discussion,
without having to discuss it....
:blink:

Tu quoque
02-23-2006, 02:39 PM
I read about a computer like that in some sci-fi novel a while back, can't remember the title now, but it was the sequel to Coalescent. By Stephen Baxter, I think.


EDit: the title of the book is Exultant.
EDit: Dunno' if the mechanics of it are comparable, that one explicitly used time travel, several short jumps, to go through all possible solutions and then sent the information back, cancelling out iterations in earlier moments as it went. But the result sounds similar.

thewizeard
02-23-2006, 03:41 PM
strange how these sort of topics seem to crop up, as April approaches..

Tu quoque
02-23-2006, 05:42 PM
I thought it was customary to wait until it was actually April before doing an April-joke :huh:

manker
02-23-2006, 05:50 PM
I thought he meant the end of the tax year.

Because as we all know, only accountants and super-quantum-computers can formulate UK tax returns :smilie4:

Proper Bo
02-23-2006, 05:58 PM
I thought he meant the end of the tax year.

Because as we all know, only accountants and super-quantum-computers can formulate UK tax returns :smilie4:

tackth doethn't have to be tackthing:smilie4:

manker
02-23-2006, 06:01 PM
Hopefully it will be just tackthing enough to keep me in my office and out of the sugar mines for another year.

JPaul
02-23-2006, 07:56 PM
1.8 Million people filed their self-assessment tax returns on line this year. Fact.

That's a brazilian quids that mank3r didn't earn.

Another year driving bread lorries at le weekend.

manker
02-23-2006, 08:02 PM
That'll be 1.8 million tax returns being filed online, rather than individual people filing them, monsieur de peche.

JPaul
02-23-2006, 08:09 PM
That'll be 1.8 million tax returns being filed online, rather than individual people filing them, monsieur de peche.
Filing them or causing them to be filed, makes no odds.

Some people get so caught up with semantics it makes me sick.

They file it, their agent or representative files it, it's treated in exactly the same way by the tax collectors. :diddy:

manker
02-23-2006, 08:12 PM
:blink:

The same charge applies whether it's filed online or not.

JPaul
02-23-2006, 08:15 PM
:blink:

The same charge applies whether it's filed online or not.
What on Earth are you talking about.

Do you mean the exorbitant fee you con out of clients, for pretending to do their tax return. When it's actually a blonde with hawt bewds who does it, for minimum wage, while you fanny about on the interweb and take phoaties of your arse to post.

Snee
02-23-2006, 08:17 PM
:blink:

The same charge applies whether it's filed online or not.
What on Earth are you talking about.

Do you mean the exorbitant fee you con out of clients, for pretending to do their tax return. When it's actually a blonde with hawt bewds who does it, for minimum wage, while you fanny about on the interweb and take phoaties of your arse to post.
So. Everybody wins, is what you are saying :unsure:

JPaul
02-23-2006, 08:21 PM
What on Earth are you talking about.

Do you mean the exorbitant fee you con out of clients, for pretending to do their tax return. When it's actually a blonde with hawt bewds who does it, for minimum wage, while you fanny about on the interweb and take phoaties of your arse to post.
So. Everybody wins, is what you are saying :unsure:
If you want to see phoaties of a charlatan's arse thats a matter for you mate.

thewizeard
02-23-2006, 09:10 PM
rofl :)

manker
02-23-2006, 10:20 PM
:blink:

The same charge applies whether it's filed online or not.
What on Earth are you talking about.

Do you mean the exorbitant fee you con out of clients, for pretending to do their tax return. When it's actually a blonde with hawt bewds who does it, for minimum wage, while you fanny about on the interweb and take phoaties of your arse to post.Oic. I thought you were saying that this online thingie might be to my financial detriment. I thought that simply because that's what you wrote.

My fault, obviousement :P

SnnY is right too - everyone wins. Hawt birds get their £88.45 ($1376.01) every Friday, clients get their tax done, I get time to fanny about on t'interweb and you lot get to see my shapely behind.

JPaul
02-23-2006, 11:04 PM
What on Earth are you talking about.

Do you mean the exorbitant fee you con out of clients, for pretending to do their tax return. When it's actually a blonde with hawt bewds who does it, for minimum wage, while you fanny about on the interweb and take phoaties of your arse to post.Oic. I thought you were saying that this online thingie might be to my financial detriment. I thought that simply because that's what you wrote.

Yeah, you would have got another 1.8 Million clients if online tax return filing hadn't been invented.

Like we all believe that, Mr so called mank3r.