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Seedler
04-11-2006, 03:36 AM
Sold my 3200+venice and bought a 4000+ San Diego.

1MB L2 cache and 2.4ghz stock.

Should see some nice OC results once I get a Big Typhoon.

Happy yappy lala dodo lee wee!

No more lag in Oblivion anymore:cool:

cpt_azad
04-11-2006, 04:29 AM
Sold my 3200+venice and bought a 4000+ San Diego.

1MB L2 cache and 2.4ghz stock.

Should see some nice OC results once I get a Big Typhoon.

Happy yappy lala dodo lee wee!

No more lag in Oblivion anymore:cool:

Big Typhoon?

Is that a fan? Cooling system/case?

S!X
04-11-2006, 05:07 AM
Big Typhoon?

Is that a fan? Cooling system/case?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835106061

cpt_azad
04-11-2006, 07:36 AM
Big Typhoon?

Is that a fan? Cooling system/case?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835106061

Nice :cool:

clocker
04-11-2006, 12:12 PM
Congratulations.
Both the chip and the HSF should be a nice improvement.

fkdup74
04-11-2006, 12:26 PM
The Typhoon is ridiculously quiet too.
I've yet to install the BT I got from clocker,
but I have had the chance to power it up.
It's sheer lack of noise makes my Zalman sound like a freakin' 747 in comparison. :cry:

clocker
04-11-2006, 12:45 PM
I think that both of you will find that the Typhoon benefits from a higher output fan...the stock TT fan, while very quiet, is also very low CFM.
Because of the Typhoon's high fin density, a stronger fan might be beneficial under high load scenarios.
Maybe.

fkdup74
04-11-2006, 01:25 PM
I dunno, I wouldn't really call 54 CFM low output.
Other 120mm fans (that I've looked at, anyway) achieve that airflow at much higher noise levels.

Typhoon stock.....54 CFM/16 dB
Silverstone SST-FN121.....53 CFM/26 dB
Vantec 120mm Stealth......53 CFM/28 dB

That is on limited research, though.

Then there's this:
TT Thunderblade 120mm....78 CFM/21 dB :wub:

I can also try out this old Radio Shack 120mm I have lying around.
It puts out something like 100 CFM, and a rough guess of around 30-35 dB.

clocker
04-11-2006, 01:33 PM
You are assuming that TT's Db rating is correct.
Their figures are widely considered to be total crap.

Anyway, this is probably moot.
The stock fan will most likely be just fine.

S!X
04-11-2006, 07:32 PM
Im still looking into getting a freezer 64 pro but 1: I dont know if it will fit in my case 2: do i need it if i can only soft overclock this comp (bastard HP locked bios).

fkdup74
04-11-2006, 08:38 PM
You are assuming that TT's Db rating is correct.

Yes, yes I am. :P

No, I was merely posting specs per the company listings.

All I know is that the Typhoon stock is pretty damned quiet.
The Thunderblade in comparison will give more airflow with only slightly more noise.

clocker
04-11-2006, 08:45 PM
If you look at TT's website every device they make is rated at 16Db.

lynx
04-11-2006, 11:34 PM
If you look at TT's website every device they make is rated at 16Db.I've looked, and they aren't. :blink:

If it were true, you wouldn't think they would keep that quiet. :ph34r:

clocker
04-12-2006, 11:37 AM
If you look at TT's website every device they make is rated at 16Db.I've looked, and they aren't. :blink:

If it were true, you wouldn't think they would keep that quiet. :ph34r:
Yes, I admit it...I exaggerated.
However...over at SPCR (folks who are really anal about noise), they have never been able to substantiate TT's claims about noise output and correctly point out that, just like PSUs, there is no industry standard for measurement.
In fact, obtaining readings below 25 dB (IIRC) requires fairly sophisticated test conditions...which TT (or most other manufacturers for that matter) probably don't employ.

Sorry about the lapse in veracity.

ApacNTS
04-12-2006, 07:44 PM
nice upgrade. 4000 was mighty tempting to me to, just couldnt wait that long :)

Seedler
04-13-2006, 02:04 AM
Big Typhoon arriving sometime next week.

I HATE my mobo tho, the A8N5X, it's so limited and I should have went for a DFI Lan party series Mobo to have better OC abilities.

Right now, the 4000+ runs at 2.8ghz without messing with voltages or htt, @ around 38C under load. Comp randomly restarts when I push past 2.8ghz. Oh well, once I get the typhoon I'll actually go into BIOS and change htt/set memory dividers and all that fun stuff and see if I can hit 3ghz.

Cheers

clocker
04-13-2006, 04:10 AM
2.8 without really doing any setup is nothing to sneeze at.
38c under load ain't too shabby either.
I don't see heat being much of an issue right now...why not go for 3+ GHz immediately?

DrBeerMan
04-13-2006, 06:32 AM
Sold my 3200+venice and bought a 4000+ San Diego.

Just wondering how much you sold it for?

Seedler
04-13-2006, 11:11 AM
2.8 without really doing any setup is nothing to sneeze at.
38c under load ain't too shabby either.
I don't see heat being much of an issue right now...why not go for 3+ GHz immediately?

Because without messing with htt, 2.8ghz is all I can hit in software OCing.

And plus it takes time to OC, because you have to test different things in BIOS and I just want to get the best result once and for all when the typhoon comes in.:)

Seedler
04-13-2006, 11:12 AM
Sold my 3200+venice and bought a 4000+ San Diego.

Just wondering how much you sold it for?

$150 CAD.

Retail price is around $180-190 CAD.

clocker
04-13-2006, 11:55 AM
And plus it takes time to OC, because you have to test different things in BIOS ...
No shit Sherlock, tell me about it.
A few suggestions...
-Fit an external "Clear CMOS" switch. Saves a bunch of time over jumpering the lil bastard.
-Make good notes...things can get confusing real fast.
-Test your results constantly to see the practical results of your chosen approach. I use Everest as a quick and easily reproducable method of comparing the effects of my setup.

For instance, with my RAM I can hit 2.8GHz by simply upping the HTT to 255 and changing CAS from 2 to 2.5 (i'm at 11x255, 2.5,3,2,5 @1T now). This gives me better Everest results than going 9x312 which requires loosening the RAM timing to 3,3,3,8 (or thereabouts). The RAM tests start to improve again around 3GHz, but then I risk corrupting my RAID array.
It's a real balancing act.

ApacNTS
04-13-2006, 12:24 PM
your cpu runs at 38*C full load? wow that's pretty nice with air cooling, right now mine will push about 43*C full load, kinda bothers me a bit, am adding another fan this weekend, if that displeases me i'll just take a look at your heatsink :)

cpt_azad
04-14-2006, 01:36 AM
your cpu runs at 38*C full load? wow that's pretty nice with air cooling, right now mine will push about 43*C full load, kinda bothers me a bit, am adding another fan this weekend, if that displeases me i'll just take a look at your heatsink :)

Hahahaha, don't make me laugh.

My old computer used to push 85 degrees Celcius .... idle. But then again that was in the summer.

clocker
04-14-2006, 10:44 AM
My old computer used to push 85 degrees Celcius .... idle. But then again that was in the summer.
What's it like living in Hell?

S!X
04-15-2006, 12:33 AM
My old computer used to push 85 degrees Celcius .... idle. But then again that was in the summer.
What's it like living in Hell?

LoL, Probbly an Intel ta boot :dry:

cpt_azad
04-15-2006, 12:51 AM
My old computer used to push 85 degrees Celcius .... idle. But then again that was in the summer. What's it like living in Hell?

T'was bad, but no LP it wasn't an Intel, it was an AMD :O the heatsink on that thing sucked big time. After realizing that my room was boiling hot (I never used to turn my comp. off) I got one of those diagnostic program thingies, forgot what it's called but it checked the fan speed and temp of your CPU. 85 degree Celcius idle :stars:

Seedler
04-15-2006, 01:12 AM
What's it like living in Hell?

T'was bad, but no LP it wasn't an Intel, it was an AMD :O the heatsink on that thing sucked big time. After realizing that my room was boiling hot (I never used to turn my comp. off) I got one of those diagnostic program thingies, forgot what it's called but it checked the fan speed and temp of your CPU. 85 degree Celcius idle :stars:

AMD?

AMD CPUs burn at that temp. They don't survive at 85 C. Fact.

Maybe an Intel can take that kind of heat, but an AMD? that's just not very believable.:ermm: