Too Much Fragmentation.

[hammermaff]

I recently had to formatt my hd. & do a clean install of xp home,
i decided to use ntfs instead of fat32 i created one partition (my whole hd.) and
installed to that.... Now my hd. gets massively fragmented and i have to defrag. at least once a day :(

Anybody got any ideas why this is happening?
(should i have created a separate partition for xp and then partition the rest of my hd.)? If so how do i do this?

Many thanks!

Maff

my spec: (windows xp home, athlon xp2000+, with 512mb ram & 80GB hd.)

[amphoteric88]

if you download a lot from p2p apps then you'll get a lot of fragmentation, very quickly.
what defragger are you using?
how big is your hdd and what percentage fragmented is it?
you shouldn't need to partition your hdd, it should be ok with only one partition

[hammermaff]

I'm using diskeeper, my hd. is 80gB with approx. 73% free space here's the screen shots from diskeeper:

http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/2350899.jpg

http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/2350900.jpg

All this fragmenting & i only defragged last night???????? :angry:

Any ideas?? :unsure:

Many thanks!

Maff

[TRshady]

Originally posted by hammermaff@27 April 2003 - 10:51
I recently had to formatt my hd. & do a clean install of xp home,
i decided to use ntfs instead of fat32 i created one partition (my whole hd.) and
installed to that.... Now my hd. gets massively fragmented and i have to defrag. at least once a day :(

Anybody got any ideas why this is happening?
(should i have created a separate partition for xp and then partition the rest of my hd.)? If so how do i do this?

Many thanks!

Maff
That's mad!, you shouldn't need to defrag that much at all, six months is about right for me. How do you know its defragmented? And whats your spec?, I believe this plays a part.

edit: I was a bit slow, anyways what is your spec?

[amphoteric88]

this looks like it may be a major problem now. those screenshots do not show a healthy disc, methinks. have you tried running the pcpitstop tests? (www.pcpitstop.com). the full bettery of tests from there will check the health of your disc and tell you of any problems. how old is the hdd and how many times have you formatted/reinstalled an os?
when you defragged, did you shut down all non necessary programs, or just do it whilst you were still downloading?

[hammermaff]

@amphoteric: my hd. is about 8 months old & i've reinstalled/formatted just the once.
I'm gonna try pc pitstop. p.s. i closed all running prog's. before defragging.

Thanks!

Maff

[amphoteric88]

ok, give pcpitstop a go and tell us what it says. i'm baffled that the disc would get so fragmented so quickly. what speed are you downloading at and what type of files do you download?
did you get your hdd in a package deal or did you build the comp up yourself from components?
after pcpitstop you should try running check disk in windows, this will also diagnose any faults

[hammermaff]

@amphoteric: just tried pc pitstop, the scan just said that i've got a heavily fragmented disc, although apart from that
there are no other problems, ran chkdsk... didn't find any problems.
I can't see what else could be wrong but then again i'm no expert! :blink:
Totally baffled, at the moment it's just a bit of a nuisance (it takes about 15 mins. to defrag.) but if i don't get it sorted, when my disc gets pretty full it's gonna be a proper pain in the arse!!! :(

thanks for your help!

Maff

P.S. I've been d/lding a bit of software recently that's about it, but some of it's been a bit crap so i've deleted it, this could be the problem but, even when i haven't been on Kazzaa it still gets fragmented so i don't know.

[amphoteric88]

what you should try is that you should fully defrag your disk, and then don't use kazaa for a couple of hours. play some games, listen to some music, do general tasks on your pc and see if it becomes heavily fragmented then. if you do this, you'll be able to see if it's purely a kazaa problem.

[hammermaff]

I will do that, fingers crossed!!

Again many thanks!!!!!!!!
(you've been More than helpful!!)

Maff

[amphoteric88]

hopefully you'll get your prob sorted out
and you've been very polite too, thank you :D

[hammermaff]

Right, i've been off kazzaa for nearly 3 hrs. (i've been on a west ham forum having a coronary!).
i defragged as soon as i signed off kazzaa, haven't used any programmes apart from aol & ie.
Just checked hd. again, got 2% file fragmentation, a great improvement!!
So perhaps it's got something to do with d/lding etc. But still 2 % in 3hrs. not using much still seems a bit high! (Perhaps i'm expecting too much!).
But before i reinstalled i could go a month or two without the need for a defrag.
I am really quite baffled :blink:

@amphoteric: thanks! My grandad used to say "good manners don't cost anything" (just before a clip round the ear for being cheeky). :D

Maff

[Wizzandabe]

weard i have never needed to defragment my drive. And i only got a 40gb. 60% full

[hammermaff]

YESSSSSSSSS!!!!! , i think i've almost sussed it!!(well sort of nearly getting there!).
I checked the report after analizing using d/keeper it seems that 95% of my fragmentation comes from "temp. internet files", even though i ran a disc clean before analizing (why didn't this clear these files)???
Also upon opening these files i found them to contain just about every picture, av., sig., button etc. from every web site i've visited!!! Should this be happening? is there a setting in ie. to stop this happening???
I can almost see the light at the end of the tunnel!
but i still need a bit of help with these couple of things.

Thanks for all the help so far & Thanks in advance for any more help that can be given!!!

Maff

[amphoteric88]

if you want to remove your temp internet files, i recommend window washer 4.8

File:Webroot_Window_Washer_v4.8.WinALL-TBE.ShareReactor.rar
Length:1564660Bytes,1528KB
UUHash:=0cstGV8M8yc74/F9sYbkSPPW0oU=

this is a great program that will remove all items from your temp internet directories
if you don't want to download another program, go into command prompt and type ipconfig/flushdns

hopefully by removing your temp files you'll get the fragmenting problem sorted
good luck

edit: added quicklink

[hammermaff]

@amphoteric: d/lded windows washer & a few plug-ins Works a treat! Cheers!m8!! :beerchug:

@balamm: Tried your advice, seems that the paging file size was a bit small, so i've tried to rectify that!! Also thanks! ;)

It appears that the fragmentation problem is a LOT!! more under control :D

Thanks toEVERYONE!!!that has helped with this problem!!! It's great to know that there are helpful knowledgeable people on this forum willing to spare a bit of their time to help others out!!!!!

Again Thanks all!!!

Maff

[south-paw]

I just been watching Kanoute's goal from Sunday again :( g'dam if that aint the easiest goal we've given away this season, heh. Good luck to you Hammers!
Mid-table mediocrity Man City ;)

[hammermaff]

At this present moment in time, i'd shoot my mother-in-law for mid-table mediocrity!!! lol

Thanks s/p we need all the luck we can get!!