Flawless.

[cpt_azad]

I like the first one the best :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bQ2mG917SY <--- swweeet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-_XRrUVJtM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emHwpfFFQtE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Unh-fLODK0

enjoy. For those that don't like it, flame away, honestly don't know what that's going to accomplish.

[mr. nails]

good shit. he's got mad skillz.

[Damnatory]

Man that guy is talented as hell. Especially if does learn by ear as he claims. Gives me a little reassurance though, cause I have chubby fingers like that... :D

[cpt_azad]

Man that guy is talented as hell. Especially if does learn by ear as he claims. Gives me a little reassurance though, cause I have chubby fingers like that... :D

Yup, I wish I had that talent (learn by ear) :( :(

[lee551]

he's got it down. slipknot was some of my favorite stuff to play once i got to a guitar skill level where i could play most rhythm parts. it's all just madd riffing, nothing really technical. just quit watching your hand and jump around the room like a fool.

when our band would practice, we would do our normal stuff and then when we were done and our voices were starting to get a little hoarse, we would do a few slipknot songs and just scream/headbang ourselves silly until we could barely talk. :lol:

i used to play wait and bleed (obviously), <sic>, and surfacing a lot. the only newer slipknot song i ever learned was 'before i forget' though. those older songs were just way more raw and fun for me.

[cpt_azad]

he's got it down. slipknot was some of my favorite stuff to play once i got to a guitar skill level where i could play most rhythm parts. it's all just madd riffing, nothing really technical. just quit watching your hand and jump around the room like a fool.

when our band would practice, we would do our normal stuff and then when we were done and our voices were starting to get a little hoarse, we would do a few slipknot songs and just scream/headbang ourselves silly until we could barely talk. :lol:

i used to play wait and bleed (obviously), <sic>, and surfacing a lot. the only newer slipknot song i ever learned was 'before i forget' though. those older songs were just way more raw and fun for me.
Fuck yes, the older songs (self-titled all the way, best album imo) are so much fun to play on guitar, i mean from a technical POV they're so easy, its all about the speed really.

I love playing (sic), I have all the riffs down to the note and sound's exactly like Mick's parts, the only one I can't seem to get is the one riff w/ the wah pedal near the middle I always get caught off guard by that (hey Lee, if you know how to play that part hook me up :D)

Oh and one more thing I try my best to learn by ear, and I don't use tabs unless I absolutely have to, what I usually do is get a good idea of what it sounds like and make my own tab(s) with help from friends. The only tab that I ever really really needed were for Virus of Life and Opium of the People. It's also easier if you've ever watched videos of em play (live slipknot) then you could see what they're fretting and what not.

-Eyeless (down to the note)
-Wait and Bleed (one hard fucking song to play mind you, I still haven't got the intro to work out perfectly...yet)
-Surfacing (so easy and so very very sweet :D)
-Spit it Out (hahaha I bought a wah pedal just for this song, obviously I use it on other songs now too)
-Liberate (not as good as the guy I posted, only reason is cuz I can't seem to get that one part, the very high pitched part that mick plays)
-No Life
-Diluted (sounds damn good in Drop C for some reason)
-Get This

and of course my absolute favorite headbanging song

-Eeyore (nuff said, this song is so damn heavy and the best part is it's easy and you don't get tired since it's not much fret work, more tremolo picking then anything).

The only songs I know how to play from Iowa are

-People=Shit (easy as feck)
-Heretic Anthem (still haven't learned it fully, mick's part is a bit tough, don't know why though prob. cuz im lazy)

and of course Vol 3:

-Prelude 3.0 (first song I learned, such a beautiful song)
-Blister Exists (I love the riffs from this)
-Duality (Pinch Harmonics ftw :D )
-Opium of the People intro (i can only play this song like every other day, after that my fingers are literally gone)
-Circle (An awesome acoustic to play, 2nd song I learned)
-Vermillion (Love Jim's part in this, know this song down to the note both Jim's and Mick's parts, including solo)
-Pulse of the Maggots (awesome song to learn, very easy, solo is a bit hard but it's Slipknot, so obviously not that hard)
-Before I Forget (very easy song to learn, learned this by accident actually, cuz my friend was playing it and I mimicked his fretting and what do you know lol)
-The Virus of Life (the main reason why I bought the uber metal pedal, now used in all the metallica songs that I play)

I'll post up a video of me playing something if I ever get my camera working, I could use the criticism.

[lee551]

i've thrown using my ear to the wind (not to say i dont try to develop my auditory skills). we have technology today that makes it so easy to learn songs. i used to use txt tabs from mxtabs.net, but i eventually found guitar pro. that program is the most helpful thing ever. it's just like tabs, but with midi playback you get to hear what should be played. that's all i use for learning new songs anymore (if it's tabbed that is).

if you want any info on that lemme know and i can continue this discussion. :)

p.s. there's 4 versions of <sic> on the guitar pro tab site. i checked them out and one version had that wah part you mentioned needing tabbed pretty accurate sounding to me (and it's the way i always played it). :naughty:

[cpt_azad]

i've thrown using my ear to the wind (not to say i dont try to develop my auditory skills). we have technology today that makes it so easy to learn songs. i used to use txt tabs from mxtabs.net, but i eventually found guitar pro. that program is the most helpful thing ever. it's just like tabs, but with midi playback you get to hear what should be played. that's all i use for learning new songs anymore (if it's tabbed that is).

if you want any info on that lemme know and i can continue this discussion. :)

p.s. there's 4 versions of <sic> on the guitar pro tab site. i checked them out and one version had that wah part you mentioned needing tabbed pretty accurate sounding to me (and it's the way i always played it). :naughty:

PM sent :)

[Damnatory]

i've thrown using my ear to the wind (not to say i dont try to develop my auditory skills). we have technology today that makes it so easy to learn songs. i used to use txt tabs from mxtabs.net, but i eventually found guitar pro. that program is the most helpful thing ever. it's just like tabs, but with midi playback you get to hear what should be played. that's all i use for learning new songs anymore (if it's tabbed that is).

if you want any info on that lemme know and i can continue this discussion. :)



I'd love to learn a little more about that, I get all my tabs from Guitar Tab Universe, which has ALOT of tabs, but more often then not, they are wrong or only contain intro's to songs. It's actually really annoying...

PM also sent!

[lee551]

PM sent :)


PM also sent!


both replied. :)

[cpt_azad]

This program kicks ass :D but I think it might do a number on my auditory skills (as in I'll suck over time when trying to play a song learned by ear), but this thing is just leaps and bounds beyond anything Ive seen.. ffs they even have vocal tabs mixed in.

I already found some inconsistencies in some of the tabs for 'knot.

[lee551]

This program kicks ass :D but I think it might do a number on my auditory skills (as in I'll suck over time when trying to play a song learned by ear), but this thing is just leaps and bounds beyond anything Ive seen.. ffs they even have vocal tabs mixed in.

I already found some inconsistencies in some of the tabs for 'knot.

i'm glad you like it!!! :D i figured you would. i think it's the future for online guitar tabulature. there are other programs that do the same thing in principle, but guitar pro is by far the best imho (powertabs is a free alternative, but the program is much simpler & has a smaller community).

on the left side go to a genre and then the top of the genre page has a link to the top rated tabs of that genre. check out some of the top rated ones (some have 100+ rates). bohemian rhapsody for example is :stars: stunning.

[cpt_azad]

This program kicks ass :D but I think it might do a number on my auditory skills (as in I'll suck over time when trying to play a song learned by ear), but this thing is just leaps and bounds beyond anything Ive seen.. ffs they even have vocal tabs mixed in.

I already found some inconsistencies in some of the tabs for 'knot.
i'm glad you like it!!! :D i figured you would. i think it's the future for online guitar tabulature. there are other programs that do the same thing in principle, but guitar pro is by far the best imho (powertabs is a free alternative, but the program is much simpler & has a smaller community).

on the left side go to a genre and then the top of the genre page has a link to the top rated tabs of that genre. check out some of the top rated ones (some have 100+ rates). bohemian rhapsody for example is :stars: stunning.

Fucking awesome, thanks to this program I finally got that boost in the arm to go and learn the Iron Maiden's Phantom of the Opera (I knew how to play everything minus the solos...not anymore :D:D:D )

[lee551]

i'm glad you like it!!! :D i figured you would. i think it's the future for online guitar tabulature. there are other programs that do the same thing in principle, but guitar pro is by far the best imho (powertabs is a free alternative, but the program is much simpler & has a smaller community).

on the left side go to a genre and then the top of the genre page has a link to the top rated tabs of that genre. check out some of the top rated ones (some have 100+ rates). bohemian rhapsody for example is :stars: stunning.

Fucking awesome, thanks to this program I finally got that boost in the arm to go and learn the Iron Maiden's Phantom of the Opera (I knew how to play everything minus the solos...not anymore :D:D:D )

yeah, iron maiden is huge there. :happy: i wanna go through and learn a lot of the classic metallica songs. i know a couple, but i wanna get a lot more down. put it on the summer to-do list. :lol:

[cpt_azad]

Fucking awesome, thanks to this program I finally got that boost in the arm to go and learn the Iron Maiden's Phantom of the Opera (I knew how to play everything minus the solos...not anymore :D:D:D )
yeah, iron maiden is huge there. :happy: i wanna go through and learn a lot of the classic metallica songs. i know a couple, but i wanna get a lot more down. put it on the summer to-do list. :lol:
Hell yes, I can't wait for summer, I've been accepted into some places already (universities) and I don't know whether or not I should go for ROTP, I'm having doubts since you ship out like 2 days after graduation (bye-bye free time + social life for the next 4.5 years). If I don't it means I'll work full time over summer, spare time = guitar up the ass. I'm gonna learn as many songs as humanly possible over summer, all classics too (goal 1: learn Master of Puppets album inside out).

[Smith]

That kid looks super popular. Hes nothing special...I know tonnes of people who play the electric guitar and can do metal songs perfectally.

Once my buddys site goes up, ill post it here.

[cpt_azad]

That kid looks super popular. Hes nothing special...I know tonnes of people who play the electric guitar and can do metal songs perfectally.

Once my buddys site goes up, ill post it here.

Ya, he's not special, but he can play them note for note and he claims to play them by ear, not an easy feat.

But ya post your buddy's website, im curious now.

[Smith]

Well its not ready yet...they have a myspace, but they never maintain it. Theres a few very old samples...once the site goes up ill be much better.

http://myspace.com/pandaemonium

[Damnatory]

http://myspace.com/pandaemonium

No offense, but the album art, logo, musical and lyrical style, and even the vampiric/Bathory persona are all blatant rip-offs of Cradle of Filth... In fact, had I not noticed that it said Pandaemonium and not Cradle of filth, I would have thought it to be COF... Which I suppose is a good thing, but come on, what happened to originality...

http://myspace-268.vo.llnwd.net/00198/86/27/198887268_m.jpg http://www.asvzzz.com/skins/Cradle%20of%20Filth.jpg

[lee551]

i think i like metalcore because i can't take bands like that seriously. goth/death/doom obsession is not of real interest to me. those guys really like dimmu borgir i guess. :naughty:

[cpt_azad]

i think i like metalcore because i can't take bands like that seriously. goth/death/doom obsession is not of real interest to me. those guys really like dimmu borgir i guess. :naughty:

Dimmu Borgir is alright, not the best, i like the melodic style they play (which doesn't mean i like all their songs, only a select few).

[Smith]

Watcha gonna do..there 16-17 years old. The originality is only just starting to come out. But they can put on a good show thats for sure.

Metal is a hard thing to get into...the main audience is in europe lol. I'm not a big fan of it, if he wasnt in this band I wouldnt listen to it at all. But you gotta stick by your own.

[Damnatory]

Watcha gonna do..there 16-17 years old. The originality is only just starting to come out. But they can put on a good show thats for sure.

Don't get me wrong, they are impressive, especially for being 16-17 y/o's. That sort of discipline of the limbs and extremities takes time to get down, and they've done so at a pretty early age... But now, try and learn one of their songs by just listening to the song (by ear), And you'll understand why we were so impressed that the guy in the videos, was playing all those Slipknot songs note perfect, only learning by ear.

[Smith]

Ah, now I get what your sayin. When I first posted I didnt know he did it by ear, thats why I wasnt impressed.

[Vamp]

These are mad skills.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=200196541497067178&q=burzum

[Damnatory]

These are mad skills.

Link (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3859808978454916890&q=malmsteen) hehe, :ph34r:

[lee551]

Metal is a hard thing to get into...the main audience is in europe lol.

what? there's tons of domestic metal.

[cpt_azad]

Metal is a hard thing to get into...the main audience is in europe lol.
what? there's tons of domestic metal.

No shit lol :stars:

[Vamp]

Death Metal originated in Tampa, Florida...So that's pretty domestic....If you're an American.

[lee551]

i think i like metalcore because i can't take bands like that seriously. goth/death/doom obsession is not of real interest to me. those guys really like dimmu borgir i guess. :naughty:

Dimmu Borgir is alright, not the best, i like the melodic style they play (which doesn't mean i like all their songs, only a select few).

we can just keep talking about random stuff so....

dimmu borgir, i think, is pretty good at what they do. i dont consider myself knowledgable in that 'field' of the metal genre (there is some real sides to be taken in the whole black metal scene, it's ridiculous [in fact i might get pissed on for calling them black metal :ph34r:]), but i like the way they incorporate their synths.

like, 'mourning place,' has those cool harp sounding lines in the chorus. the instrumentals, 'fear and wonder,' and 'perfection or vanity' also have cool arrangements imho. there's always this borgir vs. filth thing going on and i'd pick borgir personally. :whistling

[cpt_azad]

Dimmu Borgir is alright, not the best, i like the melodic style they play (which doesn't mean i like all their songs, only a select few).
we can just keep talking about random stuff so....

dimmu borgir, i think, is pretty good at what they do. i dont consider myself knowledgable in that 'field' of the metal genre (there is some real sides to be taken in the whole black metal scene, it's ridiculous [in fact i might get pissed on for calling them black metal :ph34r:]), but i like the way they incorporate their synths.

like, 'mourning place,' has those cool harp sounding lines in the chorus. the instrumentals, 'fear and wonder,' and 'perfection or vanity' also have cool arrangements imho. there's always this borgir vs. filth thing going on and i'd pick borgir personally. :whistling

I'd pick both lol :no2::ph34r:

[Vamp]

Ok well, Cradle are Gothic Metal. Dimmu Borgir are like commercialized metal that has the Black Metal aesthetic. They sold out big time.

GOOD Black Metal is Gorgoroth, Darkthrone, Xasthur, Summoning, Burzum.

[Vamp]

i think i like metalcore because i can't take bands like that seriously. goth/death/doom obsession is not of real interest to me. those guys really like dimmu borgir i guess. :naughty:

Why Metalcore when you can have straight up Death Metal which sounds like Metalcore, but is just infinitly better.

[lee551]

i think i like metalcore because i can't take bands like that seriously. goth/death/doom obsession is not of real interest to me. those guys really like dimmu borgir i guess. :naughty:

Why Metalcore when you can have straight up Death Metal which sounds like Metalcore, but is just infinitly better.

cuz i hate bands that play dress-up. i like more hardcore-style vocals (vs the death metal cat snarls). i looked through the list of bands you gave and i saw words like, 'suicidal black metal' and 'epic/atmospheric black metal.' :lol: like i said before, i'm not a fan of the whole death/doom/evil asthetic that those types of bands like to perpetuate. the epic thing also sways me cuz i'm not a powermetal fanboy at all ( :sick: )

i'd rather listen to job for a cowboy, animosity, the red chord, parkway drive, the acacia strain etc. they seem more normal or down-to-earth i guess.

[Vamp]

Death Metal has nothing to do with dressing up or cat snarl vocals. Black Metal was established in part because they found Death Metal to be too generic.

Cannibal Corpse, Necrophagist, Mortician, Obituary...Now that's good Deat Metal.

But anyways, as long as it's not Emo I'm happy.

[lee551]

i enjoy some death/black metal bands you mentioned, cannibal corpse and napalm death namely. aside from not really getting off on nihilistic stuff, the music isn't really the flavor of metal i get amped about. i need something -core to get my head to snap back 'n forth.



Why Metalcore when you can have straight up Death Metal which sounds like Metalcore, but is just infinitly better.

i disagree, i dont think they sound alike at all. :huh:

like i just listened to some nile songs that i have and it's ok, but i need more push/pull to keep me interested. same with bands like rotten sound and such. it's the same grind drumming with guitar lines too fast to care about. thats just how i see it. plus the genre is oriented around 'death' and, like before, i just find it hard to take them seriously.

[Vamp]

Hmmm, have you heard Death before? They're awesome... Take a listen to the track Crystal Mountain.

Meshuggah are also an awesome band.

[lee551]

yep, death and meshuggah i like. not a big fan, but i like some of their stuff. "death - voice of the soul" is a guitar instrumental i'm quite fond of. a few meshuggah tracks i like would be "sickening" and "future bred machine."

and i have to bring it up, how do you feel about children of bodom, in flames, dark tranquillity, arch enemy, opeth, soilwork, and all those other european [sub-genre] metal bands?

[Vamp]

Besides Opeth (which are incredible) I'm not really too much a fan of those other bands. Children Of Bodom are a bit cheesy, and I really don't like Melodic Death, although I prefer Soilwork out of those other bands.

Opeth are Death/Doom by the way and incredibly influential.

[lee551]

Besides Opeth (which are incredible) I'm not really too much a fan of those other bands. Children Of Bodom are a bit cheesy, and I really don't like Melodic Death, although I prefer Soilwork out of those other bands.

Opeth are Death/Doom by the way and incredibly influential.

agreed. opeth is a very talented band. the death/doom can be all over their lyrics, that doesn't bother me, at least they're normal people (no bondage gear or makeup).

ok, so how do you feel about hardcore music? every time i die, biohazard, most precious blood, bane, throwdown, terror etc...

[Vamp]

Ack. Here in South Africa, HxC is synonymous with straight edge, emo-kids and tough guy wannabes, so I kind of stay away from it. Most Precious Blood were here last year. We have a couple of decent HxC bands, but nothing I'll listen to at home.

www.myspace.com/armourfornightmares are good.

[cpt_azad]

Ack. Here in South Africa, HxC is synonymous with straight edge, emo-kids and tough guy wannabes, so I kind of stay away from it. Most Precious Blood were here last year. We have a couple of decent HxC bands, but nothing I'll listen to at home.

www.myspace.com/armourfornightmares (http://www.myspace.com/armourfornightmares) are good.


Listen to Seether by any chance?

[lee551]

Ack. Here in South Africa, HxC is synonymous with straight edge, emo-kids and tough guy wannabes, so I kind of stay away from it. Most Precious Blood were here last year. We have a couple of decent HxC bands, but nothing I'll listen to at home.

www.myspace.com/armourfornightmares are good.

i can see the strait-edge and tough-guy associations, but i think hardcore fans hate emo's just as much as anyone.

i think i already found my answer in that other topic, but do you really like powermetal? :ermm:

[Vamp]

A couple of bands are cool. I like the Fantasy influence :P

If you like Opeth and their sound check out...:

Katatonia - Brave Murder Day (has Mikael Akerfeldt on vocals, best songs are Endtime and Brave)

Orphaned Land - Mabool (Best song, Halo Dies)

Anathema - Judgement (Best song, Pulled Under At 2000 Metres A Second)

My Dying Bride - Turn Loose The Swans (Best song, For You)

[lee551]

A couple of bands are cool. I like the Fantasy influence :P

If you like Opeth and their sound check out...:

Katatonia - Brave Murder Day (has Mikael Akerfeldt on vocals, best songs are Endtime and Brave)

Orphaned Land - Mabool (Best song, Halo Dies)

Anathema - Judgement (Best song, Pulled Under At 2000 Metres A Second)

My Dying Bride - Turn Loose The Swans (Best song, For You)

katatonia i'm down with. i didn't know akerfeldt was in that band though, interesting. haven't heard of the other two and my dying bride i didn't think were too special when i checked them out awhile ago.

i guess i'm out of genre's to ask you about. hmmmmm. metallica or megadeth? :lol:

[Vamp]

Dont realy like either :P

[lee551]

Dont realy like either :P

c'mon, :lol: doesn't everyone have to respect the early metallica stuff?

[cpt_azad]

Dont realy like either :P
c'mon, :lol: doesn't everyone have to respect the early metallica stuff?

Yup, nothing but the utmost respect and loyalty....pre-black album anyway.