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nahan
04-28-2003, 01:08 PM
When I say mainstream I mean the songs you always hear.
Im talking the ones that are the best but you hardley even hear.

Ill start w/ Tupac / Still I rise , Cannibus /Secand round knockout,
Gangstar /Battle,M.O.P / Calm down,
Lost boyz /Jeeps Lex coups bimez benz.

Not the very best , but still very good.
Trying to remember and start it off

insanebassman
04-28-2003, 03:45 PM
Insane Clown Posse / Dead Body Man or Chicken Huntin'

gisteren
04-28-2003, 05:06 PM
snoop doggy dogg/...all of them
dogg pound/..all of them
the fabulous nate dogg/....most of them

Skillian
04-28-2003, 05:31 PM
A great track that hardly gets mentioned and was my favourite track for about six months is Shabaam Sahdeeq - Elevated. Also a bit more well known but almost as good is Common - The 6th Sense.

Also:

Afu-Ra - Caliente
Big L - Times Is Hard On The Boulevard
Killarmy - Wake Up
Lootpack - Weededed (and the remix of that tune)

Beating them all is Roots Manuva - Witness (must be played LOUD). The phattest bassline you've ever heard!

I don't think you'll be disappointed with any of those.

If you don't mind UK stuff the album in my sig is a classic. Probably not easy to find but I've got it on our music database program if you know about that.

marine_aart
04-28-2003, 08:36 PM
MOP - diamonds
eminem - criminal

TRshady
04-28-2003, 08:40 PM
I think this is obviously gonna be people saying songs from there favourite artists but anyway, here's mine:

eminem: "If I get locked up tonight"
(well, most of his songs especially the "marshall mathers LP".

dr.dre: "the watcher",
"forgot about dre"
"whats the difference"

tupac: "hit 'em up"
"brenda's got a baby"
"california love"

50 cent: "in da club"
"wanksta"
"P.I.M.P"

ahhhhh, there's loads. I give up.

Bass
04-28-2003, 09:51 PM
"Age Of Panic",by Senser.

Skillian
04-28-2003, 10:04 PM
Senser - wow. Haven't heard them in a long long time. More rock than rap, but thanks for reminding me - I might have to check them out again.

Paul_NFFC
04-28-2003, 10:14 PM
mainly 2pac songs are the best

hit em up
dear mama
picture me rollin
changes
ambitions as a rider

damn theres 100's of tupac songs i could list, hes easily the greatest!

nahan
04-29-2003, 01:44 AM
Tupac greatest rapper of all time.

Tupac /explosive remix,Hail mary.

Nas /Nas is like(there is better ones, but i like this one)

Gangstar /Full clip,Work Part2 Feat Big L

complete noob
04-29-2003, 01:53 AM
Hey insane, check out Blaze's cover of Dead Body Man. Helly tight. I was gonan say Das Efx, but I'm gonna go with Insanebassman and say The Psychopathic Family.

Pitbul
04-29-2003, 03:33 AM
i see ppl always listing Dre songs where hes with someoen else on the track. alot of u are media biters by far the best song on Chronic 2001 with the best beat most catchy flow is Still D.R.E cuz it was mostly him just snoop was throw in there a little also the song The Watchers was tight too. i say ur media biters cuz everyone always says Forgot about dre cuz Em was on it thats how i can tell thats ur not a tru Dre fan u bought it cuz it was hyped and has Em and other ppl on it

marine_aart
04-29-2003, 03:50 AM
@pitbull forgot about dre is just the best song, I liked it before I knew eminem, so stfu :P

L(.)(.)K here
04-30-2003, 05:49 PM
"cocktails" , by too short...........best song ever. ;)

marine_aart
04-30-2003, 07:30 PM
from........ ???

{I}{K}{E}
04-30-2003, 07:32 PM
California Love.

(don't have to post the rappers of this songs)

Pitbul
05-01-2003, 12:07 AM
i dont like media biters but heres some of mine


2Pac Hit'em Up
50 Cent Be a Gentle Man
Eminem Biterphobia
50 Cent Corner Bodega
Dre and Snoop Aint Nuttin But a G Thang <( MUTHAFUCKIN CLASSIC AND U KNOW DAMN WELL IT IS TOO.) I grew up on hip hop especially Dre and Snoop&#39;s shit both by themselved and together no one can ever do the type of music they do together just listen to Ain&#39;t Nuthin But A G Thang

Rollin_On_Dubs420
05-02-2003, 10:31 PM
umm didnt it say non main stream?
shabaam sahdeeq - elevated
shabaam sahdeeq f/ cocoa brovas - every rhyme i write
pharoahe monch - simon says & got you
jedi mind tricks f/ tragedy khadafi - genghis khan
benefit - proceed with caution
benefit - if i owned a midget
benefit - supreme
benefit - super mario
benefit - gordos revenge
ali vegas, shells, trav - freestyle
shells, styles - we cant lose

Z
05-04-2003, 03:18 AM
im sorry, but here it is:

SugarHill Gang - Rappers&#39; Delight (Def Squad Remake)

yup.

soopaman
05-04-2003, 02:33 PM
Originally posted by Pitbul@1 May 2003 - 01:07
i dont like media biters but heres some of mine


2Pac Hit&#39;em Up
50 Cent Be a Gentle Man
Eminem Biterphobia
50 Cent Corner Bodega
Dre and Snoop Aint Nuttin But a G Thang <( MUTHAFUCKIN CLASSIC AND U KNOW DAMN WELL IT IS TOO.) I grew up on hip hop especially Dre and Snoop&#39;s shit both by themselved and together no one can ever do the type of music they do together just listen to Ain&#39;t Nuthin But A G Thang

I thought this topic said "mainstream need not apply". Your list looks like you went to Woolworths to buy them. :lol: All ultra-commercial, played out shite. So you grew up on Hip-Hop, doesn&#39;t look like it&#33;&#33; Talking all that shit about "media biters" whatever they are?? Tupac, Dre, Eminem, 50 Cent and Snoop have ALL benefitted from huge media attention. Are they "biters" too??

Pitbul you a fake, a phony, a pussy, a "Stan"&#33;&#33;&#33; Fuckin&#39; Herb&#33;&#33; :P

garretrevels
05-04-2003, 03:18 PM
McProjectile listen and download let me know what you think (http://www.mp3.com/mcprojectile)

nahan
05-06-2003, 09:25 PM
Hit Em Up Infamous
G thang -classic , but some of those others ?

I doubt they can quailfy as best hip hop ever, dont insult our collective intelligence

Ill give you one , he aint a personal fav though.

Juicy

BRIANCIZME
05-30-2003, 11:22 PM
TUPAC - VIOLENT OR SOULJAZ STORY(THET ARE TWO OF THE DEEPEST SONGS EVER WRITTEN, ASIDE FROM ALMOST EVERYTHING ELSE HE EVER WROTE)

insanebassman
05-30-2003, 11:25 PM
Originally posted by complete noob@28 April 2003 - 18:53
Hey insane, check out Blaze&#39;s cover of Dead Body Man. Helly tight. I was gonan say Das Efx, but I&#39;m gonna go with Insanebassman and say The Psychopathic Family.
Thanks for the heads up, will check it. My band is discussing the possibility of covering "Toys" from Riddlebox

Z
05-31-2003, 01:37 AM
Dead Prez w/ the Beatnuts - Look Around

Celerystalksme
05-31-2003, 02:18 AM
ICP - Nothin But A Bitch Thang :D

and also

Cage - Agent Orange

(But the whole Cage - Movies For The Blind album is pretty tight)

nahan
05-31-2003, 03:27 AM
Beatnuts feat. Big Punisher,DJ Honda /Off the Mic
Very cool

zacspeed
05-31-2003, 06:57 AM
Blade - "Mind Of An Ordianary Citizen"
Overlord - X "14 Days in May"
:D

N£MO
05-31-2003, 08:25 AM
Originally posted by Pitbul@1 May 2003 - 01:07
i dont like media biters but heres some of mine


2Pac Hit&#39;em Up
50 Cent Be a Gentle Man
Eminem Biterphobia
50 Cent Corner Bodega
Dre and Snoop Aint Nuttin But a G Thang <( MUTHAFUCKIN CLASSIC AND U KNOW DAMN WELL IT IS TOO.) I grew up on hip hop especially Dre and Snoop&#39;s shit both by themselved and together no one can ever do the type of music they do together just listen to Ain&#39;t Nuthin But A G Thang
All of yours are mainstream,you muppet. :P :lol:


Check out Mr Lif,Edan or Skitz.

Pitbul
05-31-2003, 09:38 AM
Originally posted by soopaman+4 May 2003 - 07:33--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (soopaman @ 4 May 2003 - 07:33)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Pitbul@1 May 2003 - 01:07
i dont like media biters but heres some of mine


2Pac Hit&#39;em Up
50 Cent Be a Gentle Man
Eminem Biterphobia
50 Cent Corner Bodega
Dre and Snoop Aint Nuttin But a G Thang <( MUTHAFUCKIN CLASSIC AND U KNOW DAMN WELL IT IS TOO.) I grew up on hip hop especially Dre and Snoop&#39;s shit both by themselved and together no one can ever do the type of music they do together just listen to Ain&#39;t Nuthin But A G Thang

I thought this topic said "mainstream need not apply". Your list looks like you went to Woolworths to buy them. :lol: All ultra-commercial, played out shite. So you grew up on Hip-Hop, doesn&#39;t look like it&#33;&#33; Talking all that shit about "media biters" whatever they are?? Tupac, Dre, Eminem, 50 Cent and Snoop have ALL benefitted from huge media attention. Are they "biters" too??

Pitbul you a fake, a phony, a pussy, a "Stan"&#33;&#33;&#33; Fuckin&#39; Herb&#33;&#33; :P [/b][/quote]
ok for all u dumbasses who didn&#39;t get it is i listed songs from the artist that they did before they went big. Eminem did Biterphobia in early 94. before hardly n e one even know who he was. i think its better then 95% of all his mainstream CD&#39;s 50 Cent did those songs in 96 7 years ago before u know who he was. i heard those back when i was 14 or 13. and Aint nuthing but a G Thang is just a Classic. those songs i listed were from before they were big stars. before 95% of there fans gave a shit about them.cuz i see alot of ppl posting new songs and especially when i talk to other ppl and ask if they have heard this song from before they didn&#39;t even know they had other songs. thank u very much for being a dumb ass and makin me set ur bitch asses str8. :rolleyes: :-"

soopaman
05-31-2003, 10:07 AM
Originally posted by Pitbul@31 May 2003 - 10:38
ok for all u dumbasses who didn&#39;t get it is i listed songs from the artist that they did before they went big. Eminem did Biterphobia in early 94. before hardly n e one even know who he was. i think its better then 95% of all his mainstream CD&#39;s 50 Cent did those songs in 96 7 years ago before u know who he was. i heard those back when i was 14 or 13. and Aint nuthing but a G Thang is just a Classic. those songs i listed were from before they were big stars. before 95% of there fans gave a shit about them.cuz i see alot of ppl posting new songs and especially when i talk to other ppl and ask if they have heard this song from before they didn&#39;t even know they had other songs. thank u very much for being a dumb ass and makin me set ur bitch asses str8. :rolleyes: :-"

According to your birthdate you were only 7 in 1994. You said you&#39;d heard those tunes when you 13 or 14 which was like 2 years ago&#33;&#33; Nice try. :P

A couple more for the list:

The Session - The Roots (1993)

Bionic Oldsmobile - Analog Brothers (2000)

;)

N£MO
05-31-2003, 10:17 AM
Originally posted by soopaman+31 May 2003 - 11:07--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (soopaman @ 31 May 2003 - 11:07)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Pitbul@31 May 2003 - 10:38
ok for all u dumbasses who didn&#39;t get it is i listed songs from the artist that they did before they went big. Eminem did Biterphobia in early 94. before hardly n e one even know who he was. i think its better then 95% of all his mainstream CD&#39;s 50 Cent did those songs in 96 7 years ago before u know who he was. i heard those back when i was 14 or 13. and Aint nuthing but a G Thang is just a Classic. those songs i listed were from before they were big stars. before 95% of there fans gave a shit about them.cuz i see alot of ppl posting new songs and especially when i talk to other ppl and ask if they have heard this song from before they didn&#39;t even know they had other songs. thank u very much for being a dumb ass and makin me set ur bitch asses str8. :rolleyes:&nbsp; :-"

According to your birthdate you were only 7 in 1994. You said you&#39;d heard those tunes when you 13 or 14 which was like 2 years ago&#33;&#33; Nice try. :P

A couple more for the list:

The Session - The Roots (1993)

Bionic Oldsmobile - Analog Brothers (2000)

;) [/b][/quote]
Some people just cant stop talking shite,eh pitbul :P :lol:

carbert
05-31-2003, 10:28 AM
I really like the song Saul Williams - Penny For A Thought
dunno if you class that as mainstream, but i never heard it on radio, and its a great song

Scriibblec
05-31-2003, 10:36 AM
pitbul dont be so fagy
and dum lil bitch when thos
songs cam out u was sukin
u moms boobs

loz
05-31-2003, 01:49 PM
BOB - Rage Against The Machine & Outkast
Suburban Life - Kottonmouth Kings
Battlecry - Black Opz
Jump Around - House of Pain (classic song)

Sorry if they are too mainstream

nahan
05-31-2003, 02:20 PM
Thats cool you tried ,and house of pain is a kind of classic

nahan
06-01-2003, 02:33 AM
Run DMC /Walk this way
Nas/Fugees &#092;If I ruled the world

Nas/Street Dreams
Nas/ Ether
Grand Master Flash/The message
Big and puff make good songs only by sampling classics.

Dj Kool feat. Funk Master Flex/Let me clear my throat.

Celerystalksme
06-01-2003, 07:03 AM
ICP - Under The Moon :D (The whole great milenko album is great)

Theres lotsa good Bone Thugs N Harmony songs (their latest album Thug World Order was alright)...but prefer their olda stuff...and gawd this guy who created the post is pushy...give it time broz...

nahan
06-01-2003, 07:12 AM
Originally posted by Celerystalksme@1 June 2003 - 08:03
ICP - Under The Moon :D (The whole great milenko album is great)

Theres lotsa good Bone Thugs N Harmony songs (their latest album Thug World Order was alright)...but prefer their olda stuff...and gawd this guy who created the post is pushy...give it time broz...
What does that mean ? "Im pushy"


Edit:Censor me ? wtf thats like censoring ODB

Celerystalksme
06-01-2003, 07:19 AM
Dude i didn&#39;t mean to upset ya or anything i was just saying let the post flow...stop forcing it to continue :D

Semmi
06-01-2003, 09:11 AM
Originally posted by nahan@1 June 2003 - 03:33
Run DMC /Walk this way
Nas/Fugees &#092;If I ruled the world

Nas/Street Dreams
Nas/ Ether
Grand Master Flash/The message
Big and puff make good songs only by sampling classics.

Funk Master Flex/Let me clear my throat.
Let Me Clear my throath is still DJ KOOL&#39;s song as far as I know........it was on Funk Flexes mixtape, but that doesn&#39;t make it his song. and Ether is as mainstream as it can be...........

nahan
06-01-2003, 10:54 AM
Originally posted by Semmi+1 June 2003 - 10:11--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Semmi @ 1 June 2003 - 10:11)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--nahan@1 June 2003 - 03:33
Run DMC /Walk this way
Nas/Fugees &#092;If I ruled the world

Nas/Street Dreams
Nas/ Ether
Grand Master Flash/The message
Big and puff make good songs only by sampling classics.

Funk Master Flex/Let me clear my throat.
Let Me Clear my throath is still DJ KOOL&#39;s song as far as I know........it was on Funk Flexes mixtape, but that doesn&#39;t make it his song. and Ether is as mainstream as it can be........... [/b][/quote]
Yeah Ether is ,but its kind of classic because of the beef .

I thought I put DJ KOOL&#39;s name there, but your right to correct me.

Well what do you think is classic then ,you didnt post nothing.

soopaman
06-01-2003, 01:57 PM
Originally posted by nahan@1 June 2003 - 03:33
Run DMC /Walk this way
Nas/Fugees &#092;If I ruled the world

Nas/Street Dreams
Nas/ Ether
Grand Master Flash/The message
Big and puff make good songs only by sampling classics.

Dj Kool feat. Funk Master Flex/Let me clear my throat.

Nahan,

Walk this Way = an old song reinterpretated

If I Ruled The World = an old Kurtis Blow song

Street Dreams = an old Eurythmics song sampled heavily

Let Me clear My Throat = uses the "900 number" beat

All these songs sample classics, so what??? What is your point??? Hip-Hop was founded on the use of samples and breaks or have you forgotten?? :P

soopaman
06-01-2003, 02:04 PM
:o

Celerystalksme
06-01-2003, 02:35 PM
Soopman has gotta very valid point there...Thats why i like grandmaster flash...a good original hip hopster (i might be wrong but being in australia...you have to rely on other people&#39;s word to get news about old-school hip hop...)

olibomb
06-01-2003, 02:37 PM
STOP THE FLAMING, AND EVERY POST MADE IN THIS TOPIC SHOULD BE SAYING BOUT SONGS.

Tupac- Do 4 Love
Kool G Rap- My Life(rmx)
MOP featuring C-N-N- Stomp

crazy_billy_bats
06-01-2003, 02:44 PM
i say Grandmaster Flash - White Lines

2nd gen noob
06-01-2003, 02:47 PM
50 cent & eminem - patiently waiting to the music of tupac & scarface - smile.
smile is probably one of my favourite tracks of all time too.
sly boogie - california
wayne wonder feat ll cool j - no letting go
debrica - 21 answers (yet another version, but still pretty good)
scarface - mary jane (the song that murder inc ripped off for ashanti - baby)

p.s. good point olibomb

Celerystalksme
06-01-2003, 02:49 PM
Stop being a sulky b&#33;tch...even though you started the post you can&#39;t censor what people say and what people have to say...Buy a pack of cards and deal with it...and before you have another tauntrum i&#39;ll put in a couple of songs...

Vanilla Ice - Ice Ice Baby
Sisqo - Thong Song
Nelly - Hot In Here

Ok Now Seriously

Anything By Twizted
Especially 2nd Hand Smoke, We Don&#39;t Die and Tha World is Hell
Pumpkin Carver, Meat Cleaver and Red Neck Hoe are some good ones they do with ICP and others that ain&#39;t on their CD&#39;s (I Think)

Celerystalksme
06-01-2003, 02:50 PM
Sorry Twiztid not Twizted (My Bad)

crazy_billy_bats
06-01-2003, 03:00 PM
Originally posted by Celerystalksme@1 June 2003 - 14:49
Vanilla Ice - Ice Ice Baby
Sisqo - Thong Song
Nelly - Hot In Here

Ok Now Seriously
:lol:

terfdurkel
06-01-2003, 03:09 PM
Right now most of the stuff by 50 Cent and Nas, but one of my all time favorites would have to be "Regulate" by Nate Dogg & Warren G.

2nd gen noob
06-01-2003, 03:12 PM
there&#39;s a reply to the thong song called the tongue song by strings
also, nigganometry by canibus is quite good (eminem fans, don&#39;t flame me, i prefer eminem (and shady/aftermath) to canibus) :D

Celerystalksme
06-01-2003, 03:15 PM
Ive also got the bong song by Chrisqo (i don&#39;t know whether thats the real artist but i just stumbled across it on kazaa one day looking at a user&#39;s files)

crazy_billy_bats
06-01-2003, 03:52 PM
Originally posted by newbie, newbie, newbie@1 June 2003 - 15:12
also, nigganometry by canibus is quite good
Ice Cube has an excellent diss for that fake ass mutha fuck entitled "can-i-bus", (ie - "Can I Bust" for all you silly peeps out there) :lol:

Celerystalksme
06-01-2003, 03:54 PM
Ahh Rap disses...will they ever end...i hope not cause they are so damn hillarious :lol:

2nd gen noob
06-01-2003, 03:56 PM
Originally posted by crazy_billy_bats+1 June 2003 - 16:52--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (crazy_billy_bats @ 1 June 2003 - 16:52)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--newbie@ newbie, newbie,1 June 2003 - 15:12
also, nigganometry by canibus is quite good
Ice Cube has an excellent diss for that fake ass mutha fuck entitled "can-i-bus", (ie - "Can I Bust" for all you silly peeps out there) :lol: [/b][/quote]
i&#39;ll reiterate: i don&#39;t like canibus.

i like ice cube though, look out for the proposed new album from aftermath

Celerystalksme
06-01-2003, 03:58 PM
Are there lotsa posts about rap disses...i think i remember seeing them somewhere...i just got a bad memory...if not there&#39;s another topic starter for you all...seeing everything is about hip-hop and rap these days... ;)

Celerystalksme
06-01-2003, 04:08 PM
Oh and before i forget im sorry to nahan...i refer the sulky b&#33;tch comment to olibomb...(hope it clears up everything)...i just got confused between the post or nahan and that of olibomb...i mean they are about pretty much the same thing...hey its just like rap today...they all sound the same...just different opinions...

and to keep olibomb happy
here is a couple more songs...

Everlast - Ends
Everlast - Whitey&#39;s Revenge (Take that eminem u sissy b&#33;tch) (and i heard quitter by D12 and its a crock of sh&#33;t :P )

and for sh&#33;ts and giggles listen to

Ludacris - Area Codes (easy listening for the ears)

loz
06-01-2003, 04:11 PM
Ive also got the bong song by Chrisqo (i don&#39;t know whether thats the real artist but i just stumbled across it on kazaa one day looking at a user&#39;s files)
I&#39;ve got that song as Weird Al Yankovic

soopaman
06-01-2003, 05:58 PM
Originally posted by Celerystalksme@1 June 2003 - 15:35
Soopman has gotta very valid point there...Thats why i like grandmaster flash...a good original hip hopster (i might be wrong but being in australia...you have to rely on other people&#39;s word to get news about old-school hip hop...)

Grandmaster Flash is a Deejay so he also uses other peoples beats/tunes. I&#39;ve never heard him Rap but by his own admission it&#39;d be "bad". Not in a good way either&#33;&#33; There&#39;s nothing wrong with using other peoples beats, although a lot of artists seem to bring nothing new to the tune which is a shame. Murder Inc are a prime example of this trend. Nahan was just trying to appear clever again and failing miserably&#33;&#33; :lol:

Another for the list:

Prince Paul - Politics Of The Business LP

;)

Makaveli-tha-don
06-01-2003, 06:00 PM
only god can judge me, , amabitionz Az A Ridah

loz
06-01-2003, 06:06 PM
Television, the drug of the nation - The disposable heroes of hiphoprisy

Celerystalksme
06-01-2003, 06:10 PM
Thank gawd i don&#39;t care about looking like an ass...and it&#39;s always better when your not the only one :D

Celerystalksme
06-01-2003, 06:13 PM
Plus i knew he was a deejay...i just didnt know whether he did rap or not...he came out to australia a few months back except im stuck up here 14 hours away from where he was performing...And gawd i been posting to much 2nite...Thanks for the round up to soopman... :)

soopaman
06-01-2003, 07:10 PM
Originally posted by Celerystalksme@1 June 2003 - 19:13
Plus i knew he was a deejay...i just didnt know whether he did rap or not...he came out to australia a few months back except im stuck up here 14 hours away from where he was performing...And gawd i been posting to much 2nite...Thanks for the round up to soopman... :)

If you like Grandmaster Flash check this LP out:

The Official Adventures Of Grandmaster Flash.

"The first official old skool block party mix CD/LP by the Original Turntable Scientist."

It&#39;s a great album mixing rare interview excerpts, old skool mixes and classic tracks. Well worth seeking out. The booklet you get with it is very informative about late 70&#39;s/early 80&#39;s Hip-Hop. Hope you can get it, I&#39;d put it on Kazaa but haven&#39;t got the right lead to hook up my record deck to the PC. :(

soopaman out.

Celerystalksme
06-01-2003, 07:18 PM
Thanx Heaps...I&#39;ll try and find it in a record store...but i&#39;ll be satisfied at the moment with getting it on kazaa or any others...Thanks Again...

nahan
06-01-2003, 10:06 PM
Originally posted by soopaman+1 June 2003 - 18:58--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (soopaman @ 1 June 2003 - 18:58)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Celerystalksme@1 June 2003 - 15:35
Soopman has gotta very valid point there...Thats why i like grandmaster flash...a good original hip hopster (i might be wrong but being in australia...you have to rely on other people&#39;s word to get news about old-school hip hop...)

Grandmaster Flash is a Deejay so he also uses other peoples beats/tunes. I&#39;ve never heard him Rap but by his own admission it&#39;d be "bad". Not in a good way either&#33;&#33; There&#39;s nothing wrong with using other peoples beats, although a lot of artists seem to bring nothing new to the tune which is a shame. Murder Inc are a prime example of this trend. Nahan was just trying to appear clever again and failing miserably&#33;&#33; :lol:

Another for the list:

Prince Paul - Politics Of The Business LP

;) [/b][/quote]
How do you figure ? trying to be clever.

Thoses songs are good,what the hell have you posted
in the last couple of pages.

Real commercialization of urban music hasnt taken place up until the last 6 years or so.
Mass production and explotation.
Its popularity is at it peak

A record ,man put up or shut up.

soopaman
06-01-2003, 10:23 PM
Nahan,

I suppose TAMLA MOTOWN wasn&#39;t "urban" music in your eyes?? Your ridiculous argumentative posts have, once again, shown you up to be ignorant of even the most basic musical knowledge.

Not quite sure what you mean by "A record ,man put up or shut up". I buy vinyl because it sounds better and is worth more in the long term.

Which of the tunes I&#39;ve mentioned are overly commercial??

;)

nahan
06-02-2003, 01:03 AM
Well for starters you wanna sit back and criticize the music I post ,
call it mainstream and then put up a few songs and a record.

Theres nothing wrong w/ what you posted or lack of.

I was simply trying to deffend MY opinion, you called it mainstream.
I disagree.
Also I made a point about urban music becoming commercialized,
at the new height of its popularity.

Its funny the way you interpret things.

The topic is simple "Coolest rap and hip hop songs ever",
if you dont think the songs I mentioned arent cool or great.
Then to hell w/ you.

Put up "songs" or shut up.

soopaman
06-02-2003, 01:41 AM
I wasn&#39;t criticising your choice of tunes, some I don&#39;t like - some I do, it&#39;s just that you fail to regard other peoples opinions as highly as your own. As soon as anyone says anything you disagree with you give them loads of abuse and try to make them look like a twat. When someone points out your many, many inadequacies and faux pas you go off your head&#33;&#33; Chill out mate. B)

I could post a long list of tunes, it&#39;d take a long, long time to dig all my LP&#39;s and 12"s out though. When you&#39;ve been collecting Hip-Hop as long as I have it takes a while. Come back when you get a decent collection son. :P

Have you heard the SKILLZ freestyle over the "In Tha Club" beat. I think it&#39;s from Kay Slay&#39;s Drama Hour. Very, very good indeed&#33;&#33; It&#39;s called "Who&#39;s Sickest?". My answer that after listening to that freestyle it&#39;s SKILLZ. ;)

nahan
06-02-2003, 01:57 AM
"it&#39;s just that you fail to regard other peoples opinions as highly as your own. As soon as anyone says anything you disagree with you give them loads of abuse and try to make them look like a twat. When someone points out your many, many inadequacies and faux pas you go off your head&#33;&#33; Chill out mate."

When does this happen ?...Kind of like what your doing to me ?

Hippocrite.

I disagree w/ all the insane clown posse stuff and I dont say anything about it,because its a pointless agrument .And his opinion.

The idea here is to post alot of great songs that are older ,basically ones that havent comeout in the last 60 seconds.

You want to talk about how you have a great collection ,lets hear it.
Put up or shut up.

soopaman
06-02-2003, 02:26 AM
Originally posted by soopaman@2 June 2003 - 02:41

I could post a long list of tunes, it&#39;d take a long, long time to dig all my LP&#39;s and 12"s out though. When you&#39;ve been collecting Hip-Hop as long as I have it takes a while. Come back when you get a decent collection son. :P



As I said, "it&#39;d take a long, long time" Nahan. I&#39;ve been buying Hip-Hop records for as long as you&#39;ve been on the planet. I&#39;ve got loads of records and could name thousands of tunes, mostly underground stuff. Why should I give away the "Crown Jewels" all at once??? When you&#39;ve put as much time and money into buying Hip-Hop as I have come back and have a reasoned discussion&#33;&#33; When did you start buying Hip-Hop?? Or do you just leech it off other people??

Thank you for making me to listen to some old tunes again. ;)

nahan
06-02-2003, 03:53 AM
Well what are the names of these "crown jewels"
What the fuck ,your a child.
You wanna play this game.

My name is suppa dupa man I have the holy grail, but Im not gonna tell you what it looks like.

PUT UP OR SHUT UP

N£MO
06-02-2003, 04:00 AM
Now now children,calm down. :P :lol:

Celerystalksme
06-02-2003, 04:08 AM
nemo...dont make them calm down there were some good points being raised...and it sure beats lisening to springer...oh yeah and im on a mile long line to get the official adventures of grandmaster flash...so hopefully i will get it this week...i can&#39;t wait...

N£MO
06-02-2003, 04:19 AM
Originally posted by Celerystalksme@2 June 2003 - 05:08
nemo...dont make them calm down there were some good points being raised...and it sure beats lisening to springer...oh yeah and im on a mile long line to get the official adventures of grandmaster flash...so hopefully i will get it this week...i can&#39;t wait...
They both know i&#39;m winding them up,i like to read a good discussion myself.Just fancied seeing them have a fight behind the bike sheds. :lol:

nahan
06-02-2003, 11:09 AM
Hey while you guys are waiting by the bike sheds ,dont steal anything&#33;.

h1
06-03-2003, 01:35 AM
@olibomb
i think the song you meant was m.o.p. / capone / noreaga - stompdashitoutya

Skillian
06-03-2003, 03:29 AM
Originally posted by soopaman@2 June 2003 - 02:41
Have you heard the SKILLZ freestyle over the "In Tha Club" beat. I think it&#39;s from Kay Slay&#39;s Drama Hour. Very, very good indeed&#33;&#33; It&#39;s called "Who&#39;s Sickest?". My answer that after listening to that freestyle it&#39;s SKILLZ. ;)
Good call, it&#39;s damn good. It&#39;s on a Rawkus Radio mixtape as well, along with Talib Kweli over Wanksta&#33;