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Busyman™
06-13-2006, 01:52 AM
What's the dealio with Europeon players always flopping and going for these "I've been mortally wounded" acting awards. They fucking get right back up and sprint away. I've noticed this a lot in soccer and even in basketball.

Just fucking play the game.

Seedler
06-13-2006, 01:54 AM
lol obviously they're told to fake every single injury, in hope of receiving a free kick or something.

GepperRankins
06-13-2006, 01:56 AM
tis true.


all football players doive

Busyman™
06-13-2006, 01:56 AM
lol obviously they're told to fake every single injury, in hope of receiving a free kick or something.
I guess that makes sense. They act like that in the NBA for a foul shot. Vlade Divac and Manu Ginobli should be honored at the Flop Awards Ceremony.

It's still fucking pathetic.

They should penalize for flopping. STFU and play, ffs. All dat bitching and whining.

tesco
06-13-2006, 02:01 AM
I saw that today watching the US vs czek game at school today. :P

GepperRankins
06-13-2006, 02:05 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGlXKDJnEiY&search=football%20dive

GepperRankins
06-13-2006, 02:08 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urGXpRI0Zuw&search=football%20dive

Busyman™
06-13-2006, 02:08 AM
I saw that today watching the US vs czek game at school today. :P
The US didn't do that, I'm guessing.:dry:

How the hell is US ranked #5 anyway? What, they beat Honduras and Barbados or some shit?

It's too bad that it's not easy for folks across the Atlantic to play folks over here. I doubt the US would be in the WC and wouldn't shed a tear if they weren't.

It's that the rankings and the groupings after those rankings, go against my sense of logic.

GepperRankins
06-13-2006, 02:10 AM
i think it's two high ranking teams and two low ranking teams. picked at random

tesco
06-13-2006, 02:14 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urGXpRI0Zuw&search=football%20dive:lol:

Busyman™
06-13-2006, 02:47 AM
Blatant cheating and holding up the game.:dry:


edit: I guess not so blatant.....

They fucking practice flopping. Wtf?! That's just fucking sad. Damn I recall the English contingent bashing basketball 'cause we give a foul to stop the clock. I was told that was wholly American. It seems this flopping has been going in soccer for awhile but ignored in that discussion.

Fantastic.

Cheese
06-13-2006, 03:08 AM
This thread is funny because this is the one point girls and homosexuals harp on about when football is mentioned in this country.

Though it is hardly just the Europeans that do this, I'd say the worse for diving and playacting are the South Americans. Paraguay were playing that referee very well on Saturday.

Cheese
06-13-2006, 03:22 AM
i think it's two high ranking teams and two low ranking teams. picked at random
Not quite, the teams are split into four different groups of seeds, top seeds, second seeds, third seeds and fourth seeds. Their ranking is dependent on their performance in the last two World Cups and FIFA ranking.

There is a certain randomness in the draw for the groups but they also ensure that teams from the same continent do not meet each other in the first round. Except for, of course, the Europeans. For them they just make sure there are no more than two European teams in one group.

USA, for instance, are ranked 9th because, despite of their inflated FIFA ranking, they have failed to perform well in the last two World Cups (which includes a humiliating defeat to Iran). The seeding system works well enough in that it keeps the big boys (Brazil, England, etc) seperated until the latter stages and even if a team gets knocked out in the first round they will have played football against countries from at least two different continents.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seeding_for_2006_FIFA_World_Cup

FIFA SEEDINGS FOR 2006 WORLD CUP

1 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/05/Flag_of_Brazil.svg/20px-Flag_of_Brazil.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Brazil.svg) Brazil (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil_national_football_team)
2 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/68/Flag_of_England_%28bordered%29.png/20px-Flag_of_England_%28bordered%29.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_England_%28bordered%29.png) England (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England_national_football_team)
3 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Flag_of_Spain.svg/20px-Flag_of_Spain.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Spain.svg) Spain (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spain_national_football_team)
4 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Flag_of_Germany.svg/20px-Flag_of_Germany.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Germany.svg) Germany (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany_national_football_team)
5 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fc/Flag_of_Mexico.svg/20px-Flag_of_Mexico.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Mexico.svg) Mexico (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico_national_football_team)
6 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c3/Flag_of_France.svg/20px-Flag_of_France.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_France.svg) France (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France_national_football_team)
7 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1a/Flag_of_Argentina.svg/20px-Flag_of_Argentina.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Argentina.svg) Argentina (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentina_national_football_team)
8 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/03/Flag_of_Italy.svg/20px-Flag_of_Italy.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Italy.svg) Italy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy_national_football_team)
9 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/20px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_the_United_States.svg) USA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_men%27s_national_soccer_team)
10 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/20/Flag_of_the_Netherlands.svg/20px-Flag_of_the_Netherlands.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_the_Netherlands.svg) Netherlands (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netherlands_national_football_team)
11 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8b/Flag_of_South_Korea_%28bordered%29.svg/20px-Flag_of_South_Korea_%28bordered%29.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_South_Korea_%28bordered%29.svg) Korea Republic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Korea_national_football_team)
12 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f0/Flag_of_Japan_%28bordered%29.svg/20px-Flag_of_Japan_%28bordered%29.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Japan_%28bordered%29.svg) Japan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_national_football_team)
13 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4c/Flag_of_Sweden.svg/20px-Flag_of_Sweden.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Sweden.svg) Sweden (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden_national_football_team)
14 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1b/Flag_of_Croatia.svg/20px-Flag_of_Croatia.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Croatia.svg) Croatia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatia_national_football_team)
15 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/27/Flag_of_Paraguay.svg/20px-Flag_of_Paraguay.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Paraguay.svg) Paraguay (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraguay_national_football_team)
16 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d7/Flag_of_the_Czech_Republic_%28Bordered%29.png/20px-Flag_of_the_Czech_Republic_%28Bordered%29.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_the_Czech_Republic_%28Bordered%29.png) Czech Republic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czech_Republic_national_football_team)
17 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5c/Flag_of_Portugal.svg/20px-Flag_of_Portugal.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Portugal.svg) Portugal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portugal_national_football_team)
18 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bc/Flag_of_Costa_Rica_%28state%29.svg/20px-Flag_of_Costa_Rica_%28state%29.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Costa_Rica_%28state%29.svg) Costa Rica (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Costa_Rica_national_football_team)
19 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0d/Flag_of_Saudi_Arabia.svg/20px-Flag_of_Saudi_Arabia.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Saudi_Arabia.svg) Saudi Arabia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Arabia_national_football_team)
20 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Flag_of_Poland_%28bordered%29.png/20px-Flag_of_Poland_%28bordered%29.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Poland_%28bordered%29.png) Poland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poland_national_football_team)
21 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ca/Flag_of_Iran.svg/20px-Flag_of_Iran.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Iran.svg) Iran (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_national_football_team)
22 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ce/Flag_of_Tunisia.svg/20px-Flag_of_Tunisia.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Tunisia.svg) Tunisia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunisia_national_football_team)
23 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Flag_of_Ecuador_%28state%29.svg/20px-Flag_of_Ecuador_%28state%29.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Ecuador_%28state%29.svg) Ecuador (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecuador_national_football_team)
24 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/90/Flag_of_Serbia_and_Montenegro.svg/20px-Flag_of_Serbia_and_Montenegro.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Serbia_and_Montenegro.svg) Serbia & Montenegro (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbia_and_Montenegro_national_football_team)
25 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f3/Flag_of_Switzerland.svg/20px-Flag_of_Switzerland.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Switzerland.svg) Switzerland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switzerland_national_football_team)
26 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/49/Flag_of_Ukraine.svg/20px-Flag_of_Ukraine.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Ukraine.svg) Ukraine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine_national_football_team)
27 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/86/Flag_of_Cote_d%27Ivoire.svg/20px-Flag_of_Cote_d%27Ivoire.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Cote_d%27Ivoire.svg) Côte d'Ivoire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%C3%B4te_d%27Ivoire_national_football_team)
28 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b9/Flag_of_Australia.svg/20px-Flag_of_Australia.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Australia.svg) Australia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia_national_football_%28soccer%29_team)
29 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/64/Flag_of_Trinidad_and_Tobago.svg/20px-Flag_of_Trinidad_and_Tobago.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Trinidad_and_Tobago.svg) Trinidad and Tobago (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinidad_and_Tobago_national_football_team)
30 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/19/Flag_of_Ghana.svg/20px-Flag_of_Ghana.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Ghana.svg) Ghana (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghana_national_football_team)
31 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9d/Flag_of_Angola.svg/20px-Flag_of_Angola.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Angola.svg) Angola (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angola_national_football_team)
32 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/68/Flag_of_Togo.svg/20px-Flag_of_Togo.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Togo.svg) Togo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Togo_national_football_team)

Busyman™
06-13-2006, 04:40 AM
This thread is funny because this is the one point girls and homosexuals harp on about when football is mentioned in this country.

Though it is hardly just the Europeans that do this, I'd say the worse for diving and playacting are the South Americans. Paraguay were playing that referee very well on Saturday.
I have seen where the ref just tell the whinger to just get up. I wished they'd penalize for whinging.

You'll the see some fuck acting like he got shot then watch prance off the field.

It's only a matter of time before this cancer starts infecting the US team too especially since they are losing so badly. Grasping at straws.

I imagine it must work or else players wouldn't do it. It seems like a good way to catch a breather.:happy:

MagicNakor
06-13-2006, 04:57 AM
It's also entertaining. ;)

:shuriken:

thewizeard
06-13-2006, 05:53 AM
What's the dealio with Europeon players always flopping and going for these "I've been mortally wounded" acting awards. They fucking get right back up and sprint away. I've noticed this a lot in soccer and even in basketball.

Just fucking play the game.

You really know nothing about football busyman? ;) ...that's the way it is

This is not soccer m8 .. :no2: lol...

Rugby is the sport for men, not football.

manker
06-13-2006, 08:19 AM
Damn I recall the English contingent bashing basketball 'cause we give a foul to stop the clock. I was told that was wholly American. It seems this flopping has been going in soccer for awhile but ignored in that discussion.I mentioned diving in soccer a lot and I condemned it a lot.

You mentioned cheating in basketball a lot and said it was fine.

The point was that while you don't mind your team cheating to win, I would rather my team not cheat and lose than cheat and win.

I would still prefer my team to play fair and lose than cheat to win.



The consensus in that thread was that you're a materialistic cunt and I'm more of a sporting purist.

Busyman™
06-13-2006, 08:50 AM
Damn I recall the English contingent bashing basketball 'cause we give a foul to stop the clock. I was told that was wholly American. It seems this flopping has been going in soccer for awhile but ignored in that discussion.I mentioned diving in soccer a lot and I condemned it a lot.

You mentioned cheating in basketball a lot and said it was fine.

The point was that while you don't mind your team cheating to win, I would rather my team not cheat and lose than cheat and win.

I would still prefer my team to play fair and lose than cheat to win.



The consensus in that thread was that you're a materialistic cunt and I'm more of a sporting purist.
I mentioned you knew shit about basketball.

I was right. Fouls to send a player to the line in hopes they can get the ball back involve a legitimate play on the ball with simply less discrimination otherwise said team retains possession after said foul. STFU.

Fouls are part of basketball and is in the rules. Whinging and flopping is not part of soccer rules. It is cheating for a breather or whateverthefuck.

You are a name-calling-fuck. Construct that for effect. :smilie4:

Oh and you weren't even the wholly American poster but thanks for playing, dumbass, dumbass. :rod:

Busyman™
06-13-2006, 08:52 AM
What's the dealio with Europeon players always flopping and going for these "I've been mortally wounded" acting awards. They fucking get right back up and sprint away. I've noticed this a lot in soccer and even in basketball.

Just fucking play the game.

You really know nothing about football busyman? ;) ...that's the way it is

This is not soccer m8 .. :no2: lol...

Rugby is the sport for men, not football.
Kewel!;) Soccer is not a major sport ova here. Gotcha.

manker
06-13-2006, 08:55 AM
You're going to have to claim a busyrod in a minute - you're looking increasingly stupid.As if by magic:


:rod:

I am so very, very shocked.

:o :o :o :o :o :o :o

Busyman™
06-13-2006, 08:57 AM
As if by magic:


:rod:

I am so very, very shocked.

:o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Wrong thread dickhead.:lol:

manker
06-13-2006, 09:00 AM
Was it a different Busyman in that thread.

You must have misunderstood, I didn't mean that you were looking increasingly stupid in only that thread.

I meant you were looking increasingly stupid whenever you mentioned soccer - and you mentioned soccer in this thread.

I'll try to be more specific in future.

Barbarossa
06-13-2006, 09:31 AM
The refs sometimes give yellow cards for blatant diving in the box to try and get a penalty, but not often enough imho.

The feigning of serious injury is a real detriment to the game, and it has always been the Mediterranean and South American players that are the worst culprits. Oh, and of course the Germans.

The Turks are pretty sneaky in that regard too. You watch out for them later on in the competition...

The English players always play the game to the highest degree of sportsmanship, and are beyond reproach. :pinch:

Cheese
06-13-2006, 02:21 PM
The English players always play the game to the highest degree of sportsmanship, and are beyond reproach. :pinch:

It's only a matter of time before this cancer starts infecting them, if the US team seems unlikely to be able to battle this savage cancer of unsportsmanshipishness then what hope do we have.

GepperRankins
06-13-2006, 02:34 PM
The refs sometimes give yellow cards for blatant diving in the box to try and get a penalty, but not often enough imho.

The feigning of serious injury is a real detriment to the game, and it has always been the Mediterranean and South American players that are the worst culprits. Oh, and of course the Germans.

The Turks are pretty sneaky in that regard too. You watch out for them later on in the competition...

The English players always play the game to the highest degree of sportsmanship, and are beyond reproach. :pinch:
the referees should get medical training. loike if they knew a shattered tibia couldn't heal in 30 seconds :dabs:

Peerzy
06-13-2006, 03:56 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=o5LFqJOj03k&search=cisse%20leg

The first view it looks like a dive and trying to get a free kick. Then look at the third view, he's broken his leg. A ref gets one view, often from 25 yards or more away. Do you book the player for 'diving' when he's really shattered his leg?

Also no one's mentioned yet that very few English players dive, if any. Gerrard likes to win a penalty or two and Joe Cole use to hit the deck slightly to easy but apart from that i'm finding it hard to name one in the same league as Ronaldo, Deco and Robben.

Mr JP Fugley
06-13-2006, 06:50 PM
Damn Jonnie Foreigners diving like billy oh.

Play up Tommy and bash those bosch cheaters.

Busyman™
06-13-2006, 08:51 PM
The refs sometimes give yellow cards for blatant diving in the box to try and get a penalty, but not often enough imho.

The feigning of serious injury is a real detriment to the game, and it has always been the Mediterranean and South American players that are the worst culprits. Oh, and of course the Germans.

The Turks are pretty sneaky in that regard too. You watch out for them later on in the competition...

The English players always play the game to the highest degree of sportsmanship, and are beyond reproach. :pinch:
You forgot the :snooty:

Busyman™
06-13-2006, 08:53 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=o5LFqJOj03k&search=cisse%20leg

The first view it looks like a dive and trying to get a free kick. Then look at the third view, he's broken his leg. A ref gets one view, often from 25 yards or more away. Do you book the player for 'diving' when he's really shattered his leg?

Also no one's mentioned yet that very few English players dive, if any. Gerrard likes to win a penalty or two and Joe Cole use to hit the deck slightly to easy but apart from that i'm finding it hard to name one in the same league as Ronaldo, Deco and Robben.
Yeah I would think the ref would check that out. If the player gets about fine afterwards, they should be penalized and fined.

Mr JP Fugley
06-13-2006, 08:55 PM
Yeah I would think the ref would check that out. If the player gets about fine afterwards, they should be penalized and fined.
And a damned good thrashing.

manker
06-13-2006, 08:55 PM
The refs sometimes give yellow cards for blatant diving in the box to try and get a penalty, but not often enough imho.

The feigning of serious injury is a real detriment to the game, and it has always been the Mediterranean and South American players that are the worst culprits. Oh, and of course the Germans.

The Turks are pretty sneaky in that regard too. You watch out for them later on in the competition...

The English players always play the game to the highest degree of sportsmanship, and are beyond reproach. :pinch:
You forgot the :snooty:You forgot the :whoosh:

Busyman™
06-13-2006, 08:56 PM
You forgot the :snooty:You forgot the :whoosh:
Mmk

:whoosh:

GepperRankins
06-13-2006, 08:57 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=xSgeIVY7JBw&search=cisse%20leg


cisse is one unlucky mufucka

enoughfakefiles
06-13-2006, 10:07 PM
Rubber legs FTW :pinch:

Peerzy
06-14-2006, 12:27 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=o5LFqJOj03k&search=cisse%20leg

The first view it looks like a dive and trying to get a free kick. Then look at the third view, he's broken his leg. A ref gets one view, often from 25 yards or more away. Do you book the player for 'diving' when he's really shattered his leg?

Also no one's mentioned yet that very few English players dive, if any. Gerrard likes to win a penalty or two and Joe Cole use to hit the deck slightly to easy but apart from that i'm finding it hard to name one in the same league as Ronaldo, Deco and Robben.
Yeah I would think the ref would check that out. If the player gets about fine afterwards, they should be penalized and fined.

Ref's arn't allowed to use video replays and can only book people for diving if they are 100% sure, or so Fifa say. The problem is not when no contact it made because those are easy to spot, it's when very light contact is made and a player goes down too easy. Is he diving? The player made contact so it might have been harder than it looks and again i must stress the fact that a ref has a split second to make his mind up, using only what he see's from his eyes, and is not allowed to book a player for diving unless he is 100% sure they did.

If you watch a full match there are only usually 1 or 2 no contact dives, but as soon as a player is put under any sort of preasure or they feel they might los the ball they tend to go down too easy.

Seedler
06-14-2006, 12:36 AM
It's friggin gay how refs aren't allow to use vid replays, because during the China vs Japan 2004 (05?) Asia Cup Japan scored with a player's hand, as it was seen clearly in the video replay. But the ghey motherfeckin ref counted the goal and China lost it's 1/10000 chance to win any international soccer tournament:pinch:

Busyman™
06-14-2006, 12:51 AM
It's friggin gay how refs aren't allow to use vid replays, because during the China vs Japan 2004 (05?) Asia Cup Japan scored with a player's hand, as it was seen clearly in the video replay. But the ghey motherfeckin ref counted the goal and China lost it's 1/10000 chance to win any international soccer tournament:pinch:
I like vid replys for certain things but not everything. That was definitely a vid replay moment for the refs.

In the NBA, they look at every buzzer beater to see if the ball left the players hands in time to count the bucket. In NFL they have challenges which, funny enough, adds a nice drama to the game.

I haven't watched enough soccer to weigh in too much but since goals are so scarce, why not scrutinize them all? Most of them would take a quick moment.

I never knew about the China debacle but it sounded quite tragic.

Nothing is more tragic in international games than the blatant cheating of the head of the IOC making the US, who already had beat Russia, twice run a do-over until Russia won the Gold in basketball. Slightly different scenario.

International play is too important to relegate important game changing events to only the unassisted human eye. Contact lenses ain't enough either.

peat moss
06-14-2006, 02:54 AM
If your going to use instant replays why have referee's at all ?

Put it on the big screen let the fans decide ! :shifty:


Or better yet have an online link and vote . We instant replays in Ice Hockey and it takes for ever for the ref's to decide

Busyman™
06-14-2006, 10:16 AM
If your going to use instant replays why have referee's at all ?

Put it on the big screen let the fans decide ! :shifty:


Or better yet have an online link and vote . We instant replays in Ice Hockey and it takes for ever for the ref's to decide
Again, don't use replays for everything. It slows the game down too much.

In the NFL, coaches get a limited number of drama filled challenges. If they are wrong, they lose a timeout.

I love how during the challenge period, they show both coaches on split-screen and their reactions. Some throw down their headsets in anger.

Quality stuff.

Seedler
06-14-2006, 10:24 AM
If your going to use instant replays why have referee's at all ?

Put it on the big screen let the fans decide ! :shifty:


Or better yet have an online link and vote . We instant replays in Ice Hockey and it takes for ever for the ref's to decide
Again, don't use replays for everything. It slows the game down too much.

In the NFL, coaches get a limited number of drama filled challenges. If they are wrong, they lose a timeout.

I love how during the challenge period, they show both coaches on split-screen and their reactions. Some throw down their headsets in anger.

Quality stuff.

:lol:lol obiviously I'd be pished too if I just made a bad call in front of like 50000 fans.:no2:

I'd just be glad that fans are not chucking bottles at me.:whistling

Barbarossa
06-14-2006, 10:25 AM
TV evidence should definitely be used for goal-line incidents, to determine if the ball has crossed the line or not. It's amazing how often they get this wrong. :fist:

Other than that, I don't think there's a need for it for any other scenarios, as they tend to even out over the course of a game.


It's equivalent to what happens in rugby union, when they go to the TV screens when it's not obvious if a try has been scored, or in cricket, when they go to the 4th official to see if a batsman was run out.

Waiting for the TV decision in these situations actually adds to the excitement, and they are usually so infrequent that the game isn't disrupted too badly.

Busyman™
06-14-2006, 10:50 AM
TV evidence should definitely be used for goal-line incidents, to determine if the ball has crossed the line or not. It's amazing how often they get this wrong. :fist:

Other than that, I don't think there's a need for it for any other scenarios, as they tend to even out over the course of a game.


It's equivalent to what happens in rugby union, when they go to the TV screens when it's not obvious if a try has been scored, or in cricket, when they go to the 4th official to see if a batsman was run out.

Waiting for the TV decision in these situations actually adds to the excitement, and they are usually so infrequent that the game isn't disrupted too badly.
Good post. I do hate when we as fans see the correct call in the stands and on TV RIGHT AFTER THE FUCKING PLAY and you just want to strangle the refs for not simply looking up at the jumbo screen to see what we're seeing.

I agree every call need not be reviewed. In the NBA, instant replay is only used for end-of quarter buzzer beaters. It doesn't slow the game down at all since it's between quarters anyway.

Since basketball is filled with last second shots FTW this had to be done. I also hate when they fucking ignore the replay in tennis. They have a computer that looks for line outs and I've seen them ignore it.....actually I think that's for viewer benefit.

Barbarossa
06-14-2006, 11:15 AM
Tennis is a mockery, especially at Wimbledon, because the umpire can overrule anything, including cyclops, the net cord beeper, and any line judge calls he doesn't agree with.

Seedler
06-14-2006, 11:16 AM
They should hire ex-pilots to do the lines.

Busyman™
06-14-2006, 11:17 AM
They should hire ex-pilots to do the lines.
Or a druggie.

Cheese
06-14-2006, 11:39 AM
Microchips. Put them in the balls for dodgy goal calls and you could even put them in player's brains to check for offsides. In time you could make the chips inhibit emotions like aggression (to stop fouling) and arsieness (to stop diving).

Barbarossa
06-14-2006, 11:42 AM
In fact, if all sport was run as a computer simulation, rather than in real life, it would be better for everyone, because all the rules would be adhered to, all decisions would be 100% accurate, and all players would always play to their best abilities :dabs:

Seedler
06-14-2006, 12:28 PM
In fact, if all sport was run as a computer simulation, rather than in real life, it would be better for everyone, because all the rules would be adhered to, all decisions would be 100% accurate, and all players would always play to their best abilities :dabs:

lol indeed, agreed.:)