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KLiteRulez
05-06-2003, 01:49 AM
I was listening to Radio 1 with Jo Whiley last week (UK) and she had Blur on who was playing live. She did an interview with them, and asked them what they thought of file-sharing on the internet and pirated music, and the answer, i thought, was amazing! And as a music producer/writer myself, I completely 100% agree with them.

This is roughly how it went:

Jo: "So what do you think of File Sharing on the net and pirating music?"

Blur: "We make music for people to listen to. Our main goal is to make the world hear our music, not to make 10 million pounds! People who are against file sharing are just greedy, selfish people who do not care at all about music, just money - the reason there's so much rubbish around today. We want the world to hear our music, whether they've had to pay for the marketing, advertising, cd case, cd sleeve and the bus to the shop to get the cd, or whether they've effortlessly sat at home and downloaded it for free, either way is a step closer to ANY REAL musician's goal!"

What a MINT answer eh?!!!
dlingeverything
05-06-2003, 01:58 AM
that's great!

i really agree with what blur is saying.
It shouldn't really be about the money.
:D
slammy_dunken
05-06-2003, 02:06 AM
Good answer. Musicians don't care about the music. They care that their music is heard by everyone.
IHATEFAKEFILES
05-06-2003, 06:18 PM
Yea! Mettallica Should Read this!!
KLiteRulez
05-06-2003, 06:22 PM
Why? Are Metallica against it all then?
ripley02
05-06-2003, 07:24 PM
yea metallica doesnt feel they make/made enough money off of their years in the biz.
KLiteRulez
05-06-2003, 07:28 PM
Well, I don't like that kind of music anyway, but it don't matter what kind of music it is, they were obviously making music for money, which says to me that their heart wasn't in it, and if their heart wasn't in it, do they really deserve the millions of fans they have? NO THEY FUCKING DONT!
Benno
05-06-2003, 07:32 PM
Im sure Metallica wasnt always after the money. ;)
KLiteRulez
05-06-2003, 07:35 PM
Well maybe they wasn't. But if they wasn't they seem to be now! Because they've (commercially) faded out, they blame piracy?! Maybe their new stuff just wasn't good enough?

Don't wanna start a row though, lol, cuz I know nothing about them or their style or genre of music.
ripley02
05-06-2003, 07:43 PM
Originally posted by KLiteRulez@6 May 2003 - 20:35
Well maybe they wasn't. But if they wasn't they seem to be now! Because they've (commercially) faded out, they blame piracy?! Maybe their new stuff just wasn't good enough?

Don't wanna start a row though, lol, cuz I know nothing about them or their style or genre of music.
that's too true. they used to be die hard rockers and all their older stuff is the best with a few of the new tracks, but i think after LOAD came out they totally changed theirimage for the worst.
Blaster.Master
05-06-2003, 07:49 PM
with the price of a cd. (&#036;12.00-16.00-21.00<==if if double) :( is not a surprise that the "sharing" comunnity have grown so fast.
Blaster.Master
05-06-2003, 07:53 PM
i rather pay &#036;30.00 to 50.00 for a good concert (is like a vacation, a experience that you&#39;ll never foget) than &#036;16.00 for a crappy cd with maybe 2 good songs.
Music is now more about quantity than quality. :angry:
ripley02
05-06-2003, 08:15 PM
that&#39;s my theory also. i will pay to see a band or music act live in concert to support them. i also like to go to theatres and watch new releases if they interest me enough. i also but a lot of DVD&#39;s too but for music and progs and games i&#39;ll download that shit in a heartbeat.

or at least as fast as my 56k will let me&#33; :D
KLiteRulez
05-07-2003, 12:48 AM
I also agree with that&#33;

I would even pay over the odds for certain acts&#33; But as for CD albums, rarely&#33; VERY rarely is a album 100% mint&#33; Plus the fact of the actual Artist hardly gets fuck all from the revenue&#33;&#33;&#33;

AND, does anyone agree with this...?

The music industry blames mostly piracy for the permanently increasing prices, when actually, I think it&#39;s the other way round, Piracy is increasing because the cost of living is permanently going up, including the price of music&#33; If singles were still £1.99, Id still fork out for the remixes and maybe the enhanced CD video, but £4&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;? I don&#39;t fucking think so&#33; If singles are really worth £4 each, then an albums worth for £15 is actually a bargain&#33; (I don&#39;t think) - then bare in mind that albums seem to be containing less and less tracks nowadays (Roger Sanchez&#39;s last album had 10 tracks&#33;)

There are still music producers out there that give you quality for your money (such as Dr. Dre, 2001 was pukka - every track&#33; over 20&#33;) but 99.9% of them are in it for the money, not the music, so fuck them - let&#39;s be honest, how many people would REALLY be that bothered if every single boy and girl band&#39;s record labels went bust anyway?&#33; lol
ugluk
05-07-2003, 12:53 AM
http://galleries.vinyamar.com/ps/show.php?id=4eILRUMKivDeURGMmVPwoZ3bV&ext=.jpg

Blur and all of you are a bunch of bloody commies&#33;&#33; :P :lol: :lol: :lol:
KLiteRulez
05-07-2003, 12:54 AM
Imagine a world where...

All Good Porn was legal&#33; (Not sick kid stuff though&#33;)

Weed was legal&#33;

Filesharing was legal&#33;

Fags were available on subscription&#33;

The minimum wage was £20 per hour&#33;

Funfairs had games where you can throw freshly servered limbs of peadofiles at other peadofiles&#33;




WOW&#33; What a dream&#33; LoL
Ardor
05-07-2003, 01:04 AM
Originally posted by KLiteRulez@7 May 2003 - 01:54
Imagine a world where...

All Good Porn was legal&#33; (Not sick kid stuff though&#33;)

Weed was legal&#33;

Filesharing was legal&#33;

Fags were available on subscription&#33;

The minimum wage was £20 per hour&#33;

Funfairs had games where you can throw freshly servered limbs of peadofiles at other peadofiles&#33;




WOW&#33; What a dream&#33; LoL
hehe sounds a lot like my country -> Holland = Heaven :P (not quite)
Jibbler
05-07-2003, 03:29 AM
Originally posted by Blaster.Master@6 May 2003 - 15:53
i rather pay &#036;30.00 to 50.00 for a good concert (is like a vacation, a experience that you&#39;ll never foget) than &#036;16.00 for a crappy cd with maybe 2 good songs.
Music is now more about quantity than quality. :angry:
I also promote the Play for Pay theory. Let them tour, and I&#39;ll keep coming to see them. That&#39;s why they got into the business in the first place. B)
kAb
05-07-2003, 04:04 AM
Originally posted by KLiteRulez@5 May 2003 - 17:49
I was listening to Radio 1 with Jo Whiley last week (UK) and she had Blur on who was playing live. She did an interview with them, and asked them what they thought of file-sharing on the internet and pirated music, and the answer, i thought, was amazing&#33; And as a music producer/writer myself, I completely 100% agree with them.

This is roughly how it went:

Jo: "So what do you think of File Sharing on the net and pirating music?"

Blur: "We make music for people to listen to. Our main goal is to make the world hear our music, not to make 10 million pounds&#33; People who are against file sharing are just greedy, selfish people who do not care at all about music, just money - the reason there&#39;s so much rubbish around today. We want the world to hear our music, whether they&#39;ve had to pay for the marketing, advertising, cd case, cd sleeve and the bus to the shop to get the cd, or whether they&#39;ve effortlessly sat at home and downloaded it for free, either way is a step closer to ANY REAL musician&#39;s goal&#33;"

What a MINT answer eh?&#33;&#33;&#33;
i love it :o :)
RealitY
05-08-2003, 09:56 AM
Originally posted by Jibbler+7 May 2003 - 04:29--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Jibbler @ 7 May 2003 - 04:29)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Blaster.Master@6 May 2003 - 15:53
i rather pay &#036;30.00 to 50.00 for a good concert (is like a vacation, a experience that you&#39;ll never foget) than &#036;16.00 for a crappy cd with maybe 2 good songs.
Music is now more about quantity than quality. :angry:
I also promote the Play for Pay theory. Let them tour, and I&#39;ll keep coming to see them. That&#39;s why they got into the business in the first place. B) [/b][/quote]
Either that, or they can promote Nike or Tampons for cash.
Blaster.Master
05-09-2003, 12:17 AM
Well what about porn?? do u know that the girls that apear on so many filmes only get pay like&#036;500.00 a movie?. Now the price of the average dvd is &#036;15.00/&#036;20.00
So the money isn&#39;t relly going to the star or artist, They only get paid once, But the company keep making money out of their asses. :(
RealitY
05-09-2003, 12:51 AM
Originally posted by Blaster.Master@9 May 2003 - 01:17
Well what about porn?? do u know that the girls that apear on so many filmes only get pay like&#036;500.00 a movie?. Now the price of the average dvd is &#036;15.00/&#036;20.00
So the money isn&#39;t relly going to the star or artist, They only get paid once, But the company keep making money out of their asses. :(
Brilliant comarison SUNNY.
chrhein
05-14-2003, 07:46 PM
its true what blur says. also its the label who makes all the money from selling cd&#39;s. The musicians make their bucks from koncerts touring and all that crap &#33;
ToraBoraDweller
05-14-2003, 09:34 PM
Before Music and Filmmaking became an Industrie
artists had a real say about the artistic content.

Now marketexperts are dictating issues like Image ,content and timing of &#39;new&#39;
material <_< .
For all I care the industry had this bashing coming and there is more on their way. ;)
nueromancer
05-15-2003, 09:28 PM
Excellent comparison with the porn industry. All entertainers are only selling thereselves right?

Besides Bands do not make that much off of record sales all "their" money comes from tours.

Free you mind, and the rest will follow. Download movies.... and I will follow&#33;

Okay that was stupid, but hey, it is a free country and beer is expensive...hmmm