Whom are the new Hero's?

[100%]

For the sake of interest whom are these new personas?

wanderlust - http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/showpost.php?p=1427973&postcount=23

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Octane - http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/showpost.php?p=1431456&postcount=27

[wanderlust]

In answer to your question, I am admin at a general private tracker, and Mod at a couple of e-learning trackers. Been around the scene for a while, but only recently joined here after some of your staff posted at TPG.
Looking forward to the two sites exchanging info and ideas, and looking forward to getting to know my way around this one.
We are not the only two to have come here from TPG to see what's what, and will not be the last of the influx either, I am sure !

So hello to everyone who reads this post.

You'll get to know me - I'm the old grumpy one........ - My grumps are rarely short and are often referred to as wanderbooks. I like to think they are excellent prose, others have other descriptions for them, some unquotable even on an adult site.....

[Chewie]

In answer to your question, I am admin at a general private tracker, and Mod at a couple of e-learning trackers. Been around the scene for a while, but only recently joined here after some of your staff posted at TPG.
Looking forward to the two sites exchanging info and ideas, and looking forward to getting to know my way around this one.
We are not the only two to have come here from TPG to see what's what, and will not be the last of the influx either, I am sure !

So hello to everyone who reads this post.

You'll get to know me - I'm the old grumpy one........ - My grumps are rarely short and are often referred to as wanderbooks. I like to think they are excellent prose, others have other descriptions for them, some unquotable even on an adult site.....
Oh boy, you're gonna love playing in The Lounge with JP and manker. :blink:

[suprafreak6]

Im A Hero!

[zapjb]

Yeah wtf. What & where is TPG? And step right in to special status.

Maybe TPG is a co-owned site?

I don't know. Whats this about?

[peat moss]

Mabye this will shed some light .

http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/showthread.php?t=127083

[zapjb]

Thanks peat moss. :)



But this makes me sick. :sick:

No personal offense to any of them. But F*CK them. They're nobody here. They didn't earn respect here. They haven't helped people here. Give them the title of usurper. :angry:

[SeK612]

Yes from the few posts I've seen from them, there seems little to set them apart from normal members.

How many of these new members are going to be bumped up (bearing in mind there are a lot of trackers out there)?

Can you not just allow them to have "owner of theirtracker.com" in their sig or something if they have proven they are the owner rather than a separate usergroup?

[Barbarossa]

I don't think it actually means anything does it? :unsure:

They're not part of the moderating team or have access to team chat do they? :blink:

If they want to be in a special club, then that's OK by me, but I think the name "Community Staff" is a nonsense, can't they be "BT Tracker Team" or something more indicative of what they actually are? :unsure:

[manker]

I agree with Barbie.

'Community Staff' is completely meaningless as a title.

How about; 'Mod of a poxy tracker that no-one here gives a fuck about'.

Okay, hardly catchy but quite succinct.


It's almost as funny as the forum contributor thing - but it does trump that in the absurdity stakes.

[tesco]

It's just a title it doesn't mean anthing and they have no special priveleges...
It's so members here know that the p2p community (just bt i guess mainly) is watching them...

[Alien5]

our group has been called "'Community Staff' for a long time...sorry if you werent there when this came about but you can always become staff of a poxy tracker that no-one here gives a fuck about for yourself, pm for the idiots guide to becoming a self important knob.

[100%]

ok thanks for the info - welcome to the board

[manker]

our group has been called "'Community Staff' for a long time...sorry if you werent there when this came about but you can always become staff of a poxy tracker that no-one here gives a fuck about for yourself, pm for the idiots guide to becoming a self important knob.No thanks. I've got many other ways of completely and utterly wasting my time.

I'll stick to maintaining decent ratios on good torrent sites and talking pish to and about folk on this forum.

It's what we self-important knobs do, don't you know.

[Cheese]

Oh you crazy admin and your whacky plans for internet domination. :rolleyes:

Who are all those people in Peat Moss's link?

I set up an torrent tracker for about five minutes once, can I get new stars?

[zapjb]

New stars for everyone! Tell us how great you are. Not great here. How great you are somewhere else. :wacko:

[DanB]

our group has been called "'Community Staff' for a long time...sorry if you werent there when this came about but you can always become staff of a poxy tracker that no-one here gives a fuck about for yourself, pm for the idiots guide to becoming a self important knob.

Always thinking of the community.

Well I've been a member for over 3 years and I have never seen this 'community staff' group that you reckon has existed for ages :dry:

[zapjb]

Go DanB go! :)

[NikkiD]

So does this mean that the staff here automatically get an account and special status on YOUR sites? You know, just in the interest of fairness and all. <_<

[Snee]

rEarliTy for community rep, ftw!1!!!

[Mr JP Fugley]

i don't care, really don't care, don't give a fuck, care not one jot, i am apathetic about the whole thing, it means nowt to me, absolutely sweet fanny addams, less than nothing, not even worth commenting on, it's water off a duck's back, it does not even .... oh never mind.

[RealitY]

Simply intended to strengthen the community.
For more info read the thread in the bt section then...

[Mr JP Fugley]

I don't see the big deal, really.

New chaps get different coloured stars. So what.

Only those who care about the colour of their stars would give a fuck and who cares what someone like that thinks.

[Mr JP Fugley]

I still want green white green white green btw.

[Snee]

Aw, pants.

they changed all the stars.

Now I have to block all the images again :dabs:

There should be a star-less skin.

[Mr JP Fugley]

There should be a star-less skin.

What an ace compromise, then if chaps have a problem with stars they can just not see them.

Nice one SnnY, can it be done.

[DanB]

So does this mean that the staff here automatically get an account and special status on YOUR sites? You know, just in the interest of fairness and all. <_<



Good point Nikki

edit -
all though fuck the staff and say 20k plus members

[peat moss]

I know I'm old and cranky but this is a file sharing forum dedicated to file sharing, sooo lets give special privileges to a bunch of whiny prima donnas who have special rules for filesharing ?

Ah fuck don't make me laff please, last time I checked the RIAA and Microsoft where complaining about something similar ? I know its not that simple , I'd probably be a great member at one of their sites but sadly its a big fucking secret . :dry:

[Snee]

I know I'm old and cranky but this is a file sharing forum dedicated to file sharing, sooo lets give special privileges to a bunch of whiny prima donnas who have special rules for filesharing ?

Ah fuck don't make me laff please, last time I checked the RIAA and Microsoft where complaining about something similar ? I know its not that simple , I'd probably be a great member at one of their sites but sadly its a big fucking secret . :dry:
Meh, let rEaliTY stroke their egos all he wants.

He's not that busy doing owt else on here.

Gotta' keep busy changing stuff around, I suppose.

[DKre8ive1]

Well I am glad the title got changed since it gave the wrong meaning and for those asking who all this ppl are?
They are the ones running and maintaining the torrent sites most the users are seeking and some of these sites have been around for over 3 years.
As for Heros I give that title to the uploaders who maintain all this sites sorted with releases even when the risks are so high at moment.

[zapjb]

Crap. Earn your stars like the rest of us.

[manker]

So does this mean that the staff here automatically get an account and special status on YOUR sites? You know, just in the interest of fairness and all. <_<



Good point Nikki

edit -
all though fuck the staff and say 20k plus membersJust you and I then, Dan. Quality :happy:

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This morning I am going to agree with SnnY - quite obviously this is a case of RealitY and some of his homeboys from other sites sucking each other's cocks. Which is great if you're getting your cock sucked but not so great if you're watching the gayfest.

I'm a voyeur and trying to see the funny side. It's all so pointless but it seems so important to the cocksuckers.

[Chip Monk]

I think we should all listen to the guy who really doesn't give a fuck. He seems to be the voice of reason.

[sArA]

I am not bothered about the different status of different members, blah, blah....I do agree with what Nikki sed tho.....

[Snee]

He goes around inviting them to join the community rep-group on other forums or something? :unsure: (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/showpost.php?p=1433297&postcount=5494)

Don't they even have to try and be a part of this community before he starts kissing their arses on here?

Ghey, Ghey, Ghey.

[Alien5]

we didn't come here to get a few colored stars under our nick...

who wants my stars $5 each

have you read this? (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/showpost.php?p=1432381&postcount=96)

[manker]

have you read this? (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/showpost.php?p=1432381&postcount=96)
Good lord, no. Why on earth would you think anyone is interested in RealitY and some mod of a poxy torrent site ingratiating themselves with each other.

Have you read this? (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/showpost.php?p=1432326&postcount=46452)

[Alien5]

lol :D are you sure you don't want to buy a "my little pony" star? it matches your sock.

[manker]

Nah, thanks anyway.

Those were the stars you got when you reached 5000 posts - before my tireless campaign to get the hawt chrome ones.

They match my kitchen, see.

[Alien5]

yeah i remembered when some of you had them, chrome? aluminium more like.

[manker]

Hoi! Stop spamming my serious thread about the torrent invite police.

[100%]

In aid of all this squable, why not allow for posting of torrents, since we is part of the "community" now?

[Mr JP Fugley]

In aid of all this squable, why not allow for posting of torrents, since we is part of the "community" now?

Good point.

Never thought I would say that.

[Sextent]

I'm with the guy who doesn't give a fuck and also I don't give a fuck either.

[Agrajag]

We could start a "We don't give a fuck" Group.

[Agrajag]

That's ironic, I've got a PM from someone asking for an oink or demonoid invite.

[RealitY]

You guys are quite entertaing loike. Save s me trip to the movies at $42 for s0da an p0pcorn. As for that request you got if you give an invite youll be banned from manker ice cream party ftw and that. As for torrent just no...

[mikeco]

the only hero here is cryco.


/lock

[RealitY]

Shit forget no selling of stars loike without giving me bribes first...

[manker]

As for that request you got if you give an invite youll be banned from manker ice cream party ftw and that. As for torrent just no...:huh:

Hey, did you get invited to be a mod at the poxy torrent sites, in return for the stars? Or did you send rossco in lieu, you know, just in case literacy was a prerequisite.

[RealitY]

As for that request you got if you give an invite youll be banned from manker ice cream party ftw and that. As for torrent just no...:huh:

Hey, did you get invited to be a mod at the poxy torrent sites, in return for the stars? Or did you send rossco in lieu, you know, just in case literacy was a prerequisite.
Got a booket of ice cream loike and goona have my own party...

[tesco]

As for that request you got if you give an invite youll be banned from manker ice cream party ftw and that. As for torrent just no...:huh:

Hey, did you get invited to be a mod at the poxy torrent sites, in return for the stars? Or did you send rossco in lieu, you know, just in case literacy was a prerequisite.:01:


I don't see what the big deal is that everyone has to bitch about this.
They probably shouldn't have special stars but there's no reason why they shouldn't...
All the stars do is help you to notice that they're bt site owners/admins which is the same purpose the mod and admin stars have...
These 'community reps' don't have any special privileges that member accounts don't have...

[Agrajag]

:huh:

Hey, did you get invited to be a mod at the poxy torrent sites, in return for the stars? Or did you send rossco in lieu, you know, just in case literacy was a prerequisite.:01:


I don't see what the big deal is that everyone has to bitch about this.
They probably shouldn't have special stars but there's no reason why they shouldn't...
All the stars do is help you to notice that they're bt site members which is the same purpose the mod and admin stars have...
These 'community reps' don't have any special privileges that member accounts don't have...


I agree. I really don't give a fuck about the colour of people's stars. I never look at stars or post numbers, I read what people say.

However I'm a BT site member (see your last). In fact I'm lots of BT site members. So how are these lads different, I think that's what your members want to know. It's you chaps who created the differentiation, not your members. It's you who gave them a perception of being somehow special, not your members.

It really isn't appropriate for you to get all sniffy when people who have been here for years get a bit pissed off when they see new members being given special treatment.

I know it's pathetic, however please bear in mind it was you (plural) who caused it. Not the chaps here who were just going about their business.

[tesco]

First of all, I made a mistake and meant to saw bt site admins/owners.
But anyway like I said they're NOT getting a special treatment it's purely just there so members know they own/run a bt site (some day it will include mroe than just bt but that's all so far afaik).

[Chip Monk]

First of all, I made a mistake and meant to saw bt site admins/owners.
But anyway like I said they're NOT getting a special treatment it's purely just there so members know they own/run a bt site (some day it will include mroe than just bt but that's all so far afaik).

Ross, it's not about reality (pardon the pun) it's about perception.

[wanderlust]

Well, guys, thanks for the friendly welcome !
I didn't ask for special status, except to say on TPG what my staffing positions were.
As far as I can see, the 'rank' gives me no special status otherwise, except to indicate that I am staff on one or more trackers.
I do have experience in giving help and advice on the forums of these trackers, and discussing popular topics and thorny topics on these forums and forums such as this one.
With such a reception, however, I'm not exactly encouraged to post here, and hope that your posts are not an expression of the majority.
I do think some of you have missed the point : When you see 'Community Staff', wou will know where the posts from these guys are coming from, and have an idea of what they do, especially where they are posting about specific trackers, invites, etc..

And to answer the other query, some sites have community forums where those who are staff at other sites have special access to discuss common problems and ideas. Many also have a community staff marker on the tracker, but no community staff get any special treatment on any of the trackers of which I am a member, and are expected to abide by the same rules as everyone else.

You also seem to miss the point of this whole move, in that a lot of us are trying to bring the community together in a common cause, and this kind of drawing together also helps to prevent disagreements between sites, giving a forum where any such disagreements can be discussed and defused before they reach any serious level. That is one of the things TPG is about, and also what a large part of this site is about.

[zapjb]

Well, guys, thanks for the friendly welcome !
I didn't ask for special status, except to say on TPG what my staffing positions were.
As far as I can see, the 'rank' gives me no special status otherwise, except to indicate that I am staff on one or more trackers.
I do have experience in giving help and advice on the forums of these trackers, and discussing popular topics and thorny topics on these forums and forums such as this one.
With such a reception, however, I'm not exactly encouraged to post here, and hope that your posts are not an expression of the majority.
I do think some of you have missed the point : When you see 'Community Staff', wou will know where the posts from these guys are coming from, and have an idea of what they do, especially where they are posting about specific trackers, invites, etc..

And to answer the other query, some sites have community forums where those who are staff at other sites have special access to discuss common problems and ideas. Many also have a community staff marker on the tracker, but no community staff get any special treatment on any of the trackers of which I am a member, and are expected to abide by the same rules as everyone else.

You also seem to miss the point of this whole move, in that a lot of us are trying to bring the community together in a common cause, and this kind of drawing together also helps to prevent disagreements between sites, giving a forum where any such disagreements can be discussed and defused before they reach any serious level. That is one of the things TPG is about, and also what a large part of this site is about.
Well your points above seem to make sense. The only post from one of you that has so far.

Having said that. You all should come here & start with one star. Like the rest of us. If you want to have a special title like BT Specialist. Fine.

But none of you earned or deaerve 5 stars.

Build your reputations. Don't come here crowned. It's ridiculous. :noes:

[wanderlust]

A MORE IN-DEPTH EXPLANATION :

Bit Torrent differs a little to other file sharing methods in that it REQUIRES wholehearted sharing and giving back what you get.
While the larger trackers, and public trackers may put little importance on ratio, (simply because there are so many users it is not necessary to police ratio so much), the smaller private trackers need people to give back and if possible seed as long as possible.
This is where the problem of hit and running comes in. Someone downloads a file, then breaks the connection without seeding that file back. Because of the limited membership, there are soon not enough (or any) seeders to keep that file alive and it dies.
Uploaders, whether a special class on the tracker, or general users as on some trackers, upload a file and seed it until there are two or three seeders. Once seeders have taken over, the uploader can then go on to upload new files. However, if seeders don't take over, the file has a very short life, thus cutting down the choice of files on the tracker over all.
Trackers used to concentrate solely on a person's overall ratio, and as long as they kept this at a healthy level, they were left in peace. (Ratio is arrived at by dividing the amount uploaded by the amount downloaded). Of late however, it had proved more useful for the life of torrents and for the total number of torrents staying alive on the site, to insist on a good per torrent ratio.
This is one of the main reasons for there being staff on a tracker. These are normally experienced bit-torrenters who are given access to special tools to analyse members' behaviour, and show them who is not seeding back on individual torrents, and on the site in general. First offences of not keeping up to ratio are normally treated with a simple reminder to the person that they need to seed. Subsequent lapses are treated more seriously.
In a sharing COMMUNITY, we cannot tolerate people who just take, and these people need to be weeded out, converted if possible, or banned if not, so that the rest of the community can get on with the process of SHARING equally.
We also have people who try to cheat, either by using ratio making tools, tweaked clients, or hacking. We therefore have staff experienced in spotting this and who then warn and in most cases, summarily ban these cheaters.
One of the benefits of community forums, and sites such as TPG is the ability of staff to discuss these problems, and pass on information concerning persistent bad users. This helps to discourage cheating and hit and running as a person banned from one site can also find himself very quickly banned from quite a few other sites too before even trying to join them.
As I said, the Bit Torrent community relies on SHARING, and if you are not willing to share you have no place in the community. Staff make sure that this is so.
All BT tracker staff work for free, giving up their free time due to loyalty either to a particular tracker, or to the BT community as a whole.
For this reason, we are glad of sites where we can exchange information between ourselves and also with other community members who may not be staff or owners.
A lot of us, also, are interested in helping people out with problems in BT, such as client settings, port forwarding, software used for file conversion, hardware problems,literally anything to do with getting and using the files available from BT trackers, and again give up our spare time to help out newbies and experienced peeps alike with such problems. No one can know everything about IT, and there is always someone who has come across a problem before you and may be able to give you a pointer to solving a particular problem. Some people simply enjoy giving this kind of help and normally become at least support staff on BT trackers if not mods or admins.
Admins, Sysops and site owners mostly do their bit for BT by providing servers and trackers to the community for the love of it. Supported by donations and the pocket money of these individuals these private trackers are made available, and it is expected that the users will respond in kind by at least sharing the files they obtain. The world being what it is, there are always those who want something for nothing, and so the Admins, Sysops, or Site Owners need the help and assistance of moderators and forum moderators to help give a good service to their members, and to police the tracker and forums and get rid of undesirable members.

So, I hope that explains why these people have been give a special identifier here and on TPG and other community forums. It can mean that they will be able to help you, or if you have something to be guilty about, to be careful what you say to, about, or in front of them, or if you need a particular service, they may be able to provide it for you, even down to a simple thing like you feel you were unfairly banned from a site, or lost your password and have been unable to get the password recovery system of that site to work, or you are having problems because you use a proxy, or your IP has been included in a general blocklist, whatever. Most of them will at least give you a polite acknowledgement, and normally a bit of help or explanation.

There ! I DID warn you about my wanderbooks. Please don't flame me for this post. I am just trying to help explain the idea behind the identifier a little......

EDIT :
I should add that I don't think this identifier is solely associated with TPG, nor would it be meant to. I would think it would apply to any member who is staff on a BT tracker, and as intimated elsewhere, on other kinds of file-sharing sites/methods, and once they have been vetted, they would receive the same marker. The reason for the sudden influx from TPG is that this site has joined TPG and asked to make closer ties with it, and we have responded out of curiosity, and out of support for this idea. Some of us, (although not I) were already members here, some joined recently (I did). - I don't care what kind of marker I am given, only, I think it fair that folk have an idea who they are dealing with, but would have had no problem whatsoever with remaining anonymous, so to speak, either.......

[wanderlust]

Sorry, I sort of got the BiT between my teeth there, but I hope it is clear. It would in some ways have served my purposes to remain anonymous, but the staff here thought it only fair we be 'marked', for a few different but good reasons, and as you can see, I have no problems in making posts !

[Agrajag]

I still don't really care if you get different coloured stars, or a different title. To me it's all about what people say, not what they are wearing.

The chap who said someone was being overly paranoid and laughed at him. That means more to me and tells me more than the colour of the stars he has. That tells me if he's the sort I want to go to for help or advice.

[100%]

May we have links or an overview, screen shots of what their sites look like please?
Cannot find any reference to their sites in their profiles.
strange..

[peat moss]

Ah I'v softened my stance a wee bit , probably after using Torrents and understanding it a bit more . If you'v ever read Alien5's posts in the lounge you'll know what I mean .


Good things happen sometimes from a bad decision ,remember I posted here too . I do like the Mods in the Bittorent section tho as that must be a lot of hard work . Funny how they were chosen from our members not the heroes , speaks well for our board I think .