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Don't liberals own radios?
Isn't their view reflective of the "vast majority of the American people"?
This simply can't be happening, according to them.
Perhaps they ought to seek government/public funding...
...oh, wait-NPR already does that...:lol:
vidcc
10-13-2006, 08:17 PM
It's kind of odd that the supposedly liberal people that started this station overlooked a very important yet very obvious thing about liberals.
Unlike the right wing sheep, liberals don't need someone to tell them how to think. ;)
You overlook the obvious.
Liberals don't know how to think.
Liberalism is the politics of feeling, not reason; that's why so many (almost half the population, in fact) people are liberal: It is so supremely easy to be one.
Truly a headache-free endeavor.
vidcc
10-13-2006, 08:52 PM
I guess you were told that's what liberalism is....so it must be true. :rolleyes:
bigboab
10-13-2006, 08:58 PM
Why is it the older you get the more right wing you become? I am speaking for the majority, not an individual.:rolleyes:
JPaul
10-13-2006, 09:10 PM
I don't agree with your political beliefs.
I don't agree with your's more.
That's alright well.
That should pretty much cover this debate, given the way it started.
Oh we could post some specious non sequiturs, that always keeps thing moving along.
Or here's an idea. We could try reading what the other person posted and reply to that. Rather than finding opportunities to post our own hackneyed cliches.
Nah, never mind. I'm just being silly again.
I guess you were told that's what liberalism is....so it must be true. :rolleyes:
It is a conclusion I have reached based upon my conversations and arguments with liberals, yourself included.
As an example, I will cite the oft-used-and-abused liberal tactic of painting conservatives as racists.
I am conservative, but I am not racist.
Tell me, how can that be?
You have labelled Foxnews as right-wing.
That's fine, and not innappropriate, given that they allow conservative views an airing.
You bemoan and ridicule conservative views, Fox's popularity, and the phenomenal success of conservative talk radio, but have never attempted to explain it.
Consider this:
It is inarguable fact that Americans are just about evenly split, politically, and this has been the case just about forever.
Conservatives see the mainstream media as leaning to the left, and, for decades, had to abide news/info programming which failed to countenance, echo, or even respect their views.
They now have several sources from which they can glean an airing of stances common to their own.
At the same time, it must be noted that the mainstream media enjoys an embarrassment of riches when considered from the standpoint of sheer numbers.
Given these (undeniable) facts, your side seems inordinately upset at the developments I have mentioned, to the extent they promote the utterly absurd notion of a conspiracy of conservative media.
Absolutely laughable.
Now it develops that liberal radio can find neither an audience nor a willing sponsorship.
I think it's hilarious.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...ha. :whistling
JP-
Is that on-point enough for you?
vidcc
10-13-2006, 09:41 PM
he asked how it could be that a liberal radio station is in trouble.
Right wing talk radio sells to a target audience. It doesn't talk about issues or policy of the right wing. What it does is take something said or done by the left and phrase it in a way that it sounds as if the other side "hates america". They don't discuss why, they just make a misrepresentation and interpret it in a way it's target audience wants to hear things.
They find ways to blame all the ills of the US on the left to distract from the failings of the right. Facts are ignored and they tell the audience "how the left thinks", doesn't matter if the left doesn't think that.
The audeince laps it up.
Air america does close to the same but in reverse.
The thing is that liberals think differently to the wingnuts, so the formular isn't as popular.
It was more fun in one sentence, but if it makes you happy ;)
Right wing talk radio sells to a target audience.
I'm sorry, I really couldn't get past your opening sentence.
Apparently you are/were about to characterize Air America as being dissimilarly motivated.
I'll take your proffer, though:
"Right wing talk radio sells"...
...and Left-wing talk radio does not.
Thank you for making my point.
vidcc
10-14-2006, 12:05 AM
Right wing talk radio sells to a target audience.
I'm sorry, I really couldn't get past your opening sentence.
Apparently you are/were about to characterize Air America as being dissimilarly motivated.
.
:rolleyes:
Quite the opposite, I am saying that liberals are not flocking to air america precisely because it is using the same formular, even if slighly more polished.
GepperRankins
10-14-2006, 01:16 AM
can i be pointing out that kieth olbermann, jon stewart and stephen colbert are the biggest people on youtube. the daily show and colbert report are also big hits on torrent websites too.
it's not that there's no audience...
vidcc
10-14-2006, 02:26 AM
can i be pointing out that kieth olbermann, jon stewart and stephen colbert are the biggest people on youtube. the daily show and colbert report are also big hits on torrent websites too.
it's not that there's no audience...
I tend to agree.
It's not the Liberal stance that may be the downfall, but the formular that the station has chosen.
That said, apparently they have reasonably good ratings for a young network. It's possible that they tried to expand too fast. At least before it was financially viable from a cash flow stance.
Busyman™
10-14-2006, 04:04 AM
Right wing talk radio sells to a target audience.
I'm sorry, I really couldn't get past your opening sentence.
Apparently you are/were about to characterize Air America as being dissimilarly motivated.
I'll take your proffer, though:
"Right wing talk radio sells"...
...and Left-wing talk radio does not.
Thank you for making my point.
Conservative radio sells cos just like Howard Stern sells.
Many who dislike them listen to them for some off the wall shit they are gonna say.
Think about it. I wouldn't wanna listen to radio station that says some shit I already know. I'd wanna listen for someone like Rush to say some shit like "Donovan Mcnabb is overrated blahblah cos the NFL wants to boost up a black QB." Nah Rush ain't racist.
Now if Air America is pointing out that Bush is a fuck up and how he's a fuck up...well that's CaptainObvious and nothing new.
Now Jon Stewart works cos he points ANY shit that doesn't make sense. He's points shit from FoxNewsRepublicansConservatives most cos they are in power, not making sense, spin the most, and (besides terrorism, not Iraq) are responsible for the current state we are in.
On side note, I think America needs a change to Democratic leadership. We've tried it your way for long enough and you people have done enough damage to America.
Almost 8 years and shit to show for it....unless you're rich.
I was just listening to Fox and there was a Democratic strategy expert saying that, no, there is not a large radio audience for liberal radio.
For a moment, I wondered where all the Democrats get their news?? Then I remembered....every other television station of course.
On a side note J2, did you hear Cindy Sheehan is claiming that she was a finalist for a Nobel Peace Prize? What's next? :wacko:
I was just listening to Fox and there was a Democratic strategy expert saying that, no, there is not a large radio audience for liberal radio.
For a moment, I wondered where all the Democrats get their news?? Then I remembered....every other television station of course.
On a side note J2, did you hear Cindy Sheehan is claiming that she was a finalist for a Nobel Peace Prize? What's next? :wacko:
Cindy Sheehan is perfectly emblematic of the liberals and their...um...cause.
As to Air America, given it's evident financial viability and supremely sensible content, I think the only possible reason for it's troubles must be, has to be, some sordid and nefarious Conservative plot.
Roger Ailes must be behind this sad, sad, development. :dry:
GepperRankins
10-14-2006, 01:48 PM
can i be pointing out that kieth olbermann, jon stewart and stephen colbert are the biggest people on youtube. the daily show and colbert report are also big hits on torrent websites too.
it's not that there's no audience...
I tend to agree.
It's not the Liberal stance that may be the downfall, but the formular that the station has chosen.
That said, apparently they have reasonably good ratings for a young network. It's possible that they tried to expand too fast. At least before it was financially viable from a cash flow stance.
i reckon it's that liberals are more tech savvy and less impressionable to advertisers... intelligent as it were
Busyman™
10-14-2006, 03:06 PM
I was just listening to Fox and there was a Democratic strategy expert saying that, no, there is not a large radio audience for liberal radio.
For a moment, I wondered where all the Democrats get their news?? Then I remembered....every other television station of course.
On a side note J2, did you hear Cindy Sheehan is claiming that she was a finalist for a Nobel Peace Prize? What's next? :wacko:
I'd like you to tell me why is every other news outlet intrinsically liberal.
Did it ever cross your mind that maybe the point of view has more to do with common sense than spin?
Fox News uses horrid spin for their news and opinions. It's shit journalism. Yet you and folks of your ilk watch just to hear favorable news or spin that's a lie. If I folks talk about Bush like he caused 9/11 for instance, I'd them spinning idiots too.
About Cindy. Peace prize? I wouldn't agree with that.
Yes, her son enlisted and was killed.
Yes, the government "can do with her son as they please" when it comes to wars.
On a side note however, I don't know about you but people don't think of their kids enlisting and the "government doing with their sons as they please". Many folks like for their kids to die for a noble cause (if they are going to die) and not over bullshit.
It ain't fucking rocket science. You'd be a fucking pissed off unrestful spirit if you looked at Iraq this way:
9/11 was used as a springboard and rallying cry. It got many folks enlisted. The first was considered a noble one, Afghanistan. Then cue Iraq, which many go wtf are we doing there.
Test question #1.
Out of all these motherfucking targets:
1.Afghanistan
2.Iraq
3.North Korea
4.Iran
Choose the one that doesn't belong.
Test question #2.
Choose the countries that have leaders that say they are pursuing nuke tech and then use only diplomatic solutions on them.
1.Afghanistan
2.Iraq
3.North Korea
4.Iran
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