The Security of Private Trackers.

[Daunting]

It's near impossible to know which way the **AA's maybe lurking in this game of catch of mouse multiplied by millions. Because of that very fact I have begun to use Usenet for a sense of security. I still frequent private trackers for obscure torrents that nobody would really give a care for, (Who would go crazy over a decade old manga scan) but I was just wondering if anybody has any experience in whether private trackers give even a feigned sense of security so I could feel slightly less fearful if I want to download a quick movie with 5-10 seeders and 3-4 leechers.

Cheers!

[Amun_The_Unsee]

i would say it gives a little security to people in the tracker, but im sure a government as complex and powerful as ours (or the worlds for that matter) it could infiltrate a forum. if not....im sure they could trade invites to get in ^.^

or just pressure the admins. lol


but as far as that goes, isnt your IP still visible to everyone in the swarm??

[Sneakydave]

Well the harder to get in, smaller and more secretive the tracker the better obviously. If you d/l from newsgroups mainly then you could take reasssurance from the fact that youll have a much lower total upload than many other users.

[Melvinmeow]

Your IP is visible to anyone in the swarm when connected to a torrent or any p2p network for that matter. Even when dl from newsgroups the ng servers can still see your ip. Personally while private sites may not be 100% safe they are still safer for the most part due to the fact anyone can connect to a public site. Where the private sites are a little harder to get in. Consider it to looking for the new Elmo at Walmart or Kmart. Walmart has 1 coming in next week and Kmart has 100. Comparing those odds which store would you rather go to, to pickup your toys? lol

[lukaz]

Makes you wonder how many are even on this site and able to enter the invite section.
Wouldn't take long to get in most of the private sites would it.

[Ratzy Rox]

Makes you wonder how many are even on this site and able to enter the invite section.
Wouldn't take long to get in most of the private sites would it.

course not but if i was looking for a tracker to take offline id choose the biggest one i could find to reduce piracy by the largest amount. Why choose ScT with its 15000 members when you could force torrentspy's xxx,xxx users offline?

[filephile]

course not but if i was looking for a tracker to take offline id choose the biggest one i could find to reduce piracy by the largest amount. Why choose ScT with its 15000 members when you could force torrentspy's xxx,xxx users offline?

torrentspy isn't a tracker though, just an indexing service.
that has got to be different.
I still get your point though;)

[kavalchuk17]

And take into account that to get to the top sites, you have to upload alot. that would be breaking copyright rules and contributing to copyright infringement. idk if the US government would do that. I wouldnt doubt it, but wouldnt that be ironic?

[macosbrain]

nothing is secure

[Daunting]

It is understandable to equate more people in a tracker to a higher possibility of detection within that tracker (Since from I hear the best strategy by the **AA's is to just take a snapshot of whoever's in a swarm, or on the whole torrent.) However, I just wonder how efficient are the corporations that police the p2p culture. Though I've never been excessively worried about getting caught. Millions of people download content illegally at any given time and they can only call attention to a few thousand a year.

Cat and a sea of mice I suppose.

[pimiske]

they don't interest in end user, they are trying to catch admins etc...
take it easy...

[shikotee]

Does anyone know how effective IPfilters are? I just set one up for my uTorrent usage...

[gamer4eva]

The best way to go if you are unsure about safety is newsgroups. It is impossible to get caught using it.;) If you stick to a certain provider or even use free ones i still don't think getting caught is possible. However if you go out and shout out in the city centre NEWSGROUPS ROCK AND THEN YOU HAVE A HIGHER CHANCE OF GETTING BUSTED.:lol:

[Shadowfire]

I don't know exactly how effective IP filters are, but I enable mine just in case. I use the regular version from openmedia.info. It's basically the same thing as the BlueFilter one (<- dunno if it's actually called bluefilter ... just Blue-something ...), but the server's faster for me to download it. It updates about once a month, and it blocks a number of IPs for me, even from very private trackers. Even if it's not that effective, I like the placebo effect.

[safa]

The blue something i think you are referring to is Bluetack (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/bittorrent/t-whats-your-favorite-private-tracker-141904)

[akuma no uta]

every tracker is not fully secure

[safa]

I know of one private tracker that does not keep any records of ip`s but trying to get into it is another story. Not sure how many if any other sites do this.

[gamer4eva]

I know of one private tracker that does not keep any records of ip`s but trying to get into it is another story. Not sure how many if any other sites do this.

Some sites require you to donate and become VIP so no IP is recorded....:naughty: talk about a nice way of making some greens.:lol:

[Gish]

get Wireless internet. since you are using someone elses connection its there IP showing not yours.
(I know its fucked up but hey!)

[Sa0siN]

As of now, the RIAA is still mainly just focused on P2P client users, not BitTorrent, based on what i read. But with the evolution of BitTorrent becoming the most used and easiest to get full albums for music, the correct files (a lot of fake files on p2p clients), and scene rips minutes after they leak to the internet they will probably become more internested in catching BitTorrent users. With some of this sites, they are as close as most of us will ever be to a topsite (you know, the FTP dump sites that the scene uses). If they want to, they can easily get on a private BitTorrent site though. Most people are careless with invites and will invite anyone who seems like they aren't a noob but I wouldn't be worried yet. And, once/if they try taking
over BitTorrent, people will move on to the next big thing. It's an endless fight for them that they can't win (cause they aren't attacking the source, The Warez Scene)