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DontTauntHappyFunBall
05-15-2003, 11:14 PM
evertime I have formated my HD I loose something, I have been using XP Home. I want to format again but cannot find if there is a better way than doing it from CD-ROM

Somebody1234
05-15-2003, 11:42 PM
When formatting your hard drive you are supposed to loose everything.

What is you question? :blink: :unsure:

Spindulik
05-16-2003, 12:24 AM
Originally posted by Somebody1234@16 May 2003 - 00:42
When formatting your hard drive you are supposed to loose everything.

What is you question? :blink: :unsure:
Are you saying "Every time I erase my hard drive, everyting is erased"?

amphoteric88
05-16-2003, 12:26 AM
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Somebody1234
05-16-2003, 01:01 AM
Originally posted by Spindulik+15 May 2003 - 20:24--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Spindulik @ 15 May 2003 - 20:24)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Somebody1234@16 May 2003 - 00:42
When formatting your hard drive you are supposed to loose everything.

What is you question? :blink:&nbsp; :unsure:
Are you saying "Every time I erase my hard drive, everyting is erased"? [/b][/quote]
Technically speaking no. The data is not erased.

But in general, yes, when someone formats their hard drive they should not be wanting the data anymore.

zapjb
05-16-2003, 01:10 AM
My suggestion is any files you want to keep, make a copy (cd etc.).

DontTauntHappyFunBall
05-16-2003, 01:56 AM
Originally posted by Somebody1234@16 May 2003 - 00:42
When formatting your hard drive you are supposed to loose everything.

What is you question? :blink: :unsure:
exactly, thats my question for so long but I assumed the times my HD was "erased" with manufacture support on the phone they were telling me one way but not another.. ;)
ok...this pc I am typing on has a HD. The HD I am speaking of on this pc has in the past been through a format. I have always belived Format left nothing myself but from the 2 times before I have seen my GB go way down.
Out of the box I it was 120GB
now(2 formats) 109GB.
Phone Support was telling how to go about it. I can only assume there is more than one way to format a HD.

DontTauntHappyFunBall
05-16-2003, 01:57 AM
Originally posted by zapjb@16 May 2003 - 02:10
My suggestion is any files you want to keep, make a copy (cd etc.).
stop stalking me..I will not have web cam sex with you buddy.

zapjb
05-16-2003, 02:02 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Somebody1234
05-16-2003, 02:41 AM
Out of the box I it was 120GB
now(2 formats) 109GB.

Your hard drive is fuctioning normally.

The final available disk space will never be 120GB in windows. The disk space is calculated in hexadecimal by the disk manufacturer. When converted there will be less in real bytes. There is also alotted space for partition tables, boot sectors, file alocation tables etc... and Windows doesn&#39;t calcuate the space the same way you think.

I&#39;m sure that you never had the full 120GB showing in Windows.

random nut
05-16-2003, 03:43 AM
Disk manufacturers call 1kB (kilo byte) 1000 bytes, while all programmers know that 1kB = 1024 bytes (2^10 bytes).

1MB = 1kB * 1kB (1,000,000 bytes, or 1,048,576 bytes)
1GB = 1kB * 1kB * 1kB (1,000,000,000 bytes, or 1,073,741,824 bytes)

So your 120GB = 120,000,000,000 is 120,000,000,000 / 1,073,741,824 = 111.8GB.

Schmiggy_JK23
05-16-2003, 04:18 AM
Random Nut is my hero&#33;&#33;

*applause rises out of the crowd*

now with that said... remember that your os also takes a good amount of space, etc... and if you have changed os&#39;s with formats, you will see a difference also.

DontTauntHappyFunBall
05-16-2003, 05:53 AM
Originally posted by Somebody1234@16 May 2003 - 03:41

Out of the box I it was 120GB
now(2 formats) 109GB.

Your hard drive is fuctioning normally.

The final available disk space will never be 120GB in windows. The disk space is calculated in hexadecimal by the disk manufacturer. When converted there will be less in real bytes. There is also alotted space for partition tables, boot sectors, file alocation tables etc... and Windows doesn&#39;t calcuate the space the same way you think.

I&#39;m sure that you never had the full 120GB showing in Windows.
I&#39;m sure I did

DontTauntHappyFunBall
05-16-2003, 05:54 AM
Originally posted by Schmiggy_JK23@16 May 2003 - 05:18
Random Nut is my hero&#33;&#33;

*applause rises out of the crowd*

now with that said... remember that your os also takes a good amount of space, etc... and if you have changed os&#39;s with formats, you will see a difference also.
I never said that

DontTauntHappyFunBall
05-16-2003, 05:59 AM
Originally posted by Somebody1234@16 May 2003 - 03:41

Out of the box I it was 120GB
now(2 formats) 109GB.

Your hard drive is fuctioning normally.

The final available disk space will never be 120GB in windows. The disk space is calculated in hexadecimal by the disk manufacturer. When converted there will be less in real bytes. There is also alotted space for partition tables, boot sectors, file alocation tables etc... and Windows doesn&#39;t calcuate the space the same way you think.

I&#39;m sure that you never had the full 120GB showing in Windows.

this is "as shipped" fyi I did not install XP it was on the puter
1 0W912 Assembly, Card (Circuit), Planar (Motherboard), Network Interface Card/Controllers, DIM8250
1 4U107 Processor, 80532, 2.66G, 512K, 533FSBSKN
1 7N242 Keyboard, 104, United States, SILITEK, Low Cost, Midnight Gray
1 6U220 KIT, Mouse, Personal System 2, S69, LOGITECH
2 0W443 Rambus Inline Memory Module, 128, 533MHZ, 64X16, 4C
2 9578D Card (Circuit), Memory Board, Memory, PWB, CONTINUITY, RAMBUS
1 0R533 Card (Circuit), Multi-Media, Audio, SB0203
1 3W978 KIT, Speaker, 120V, ADA745, Dell Americas Organization
1 5740C Cable, Auxiliary, Internal, Modem, 4C
1 8W112 Modem, V.92, Internal, DFV, Tin, Dell Americas Organization
1 6Y078 Digital Video Disk Drive, 680M, 16X, IDE (Integrated Drive Electronics), 5.25" Form Factor, LITEON, Chassis 2001, V4
1 5H175 Card (Circuit), GRPHC, NV17, Full Height, Dimension
1 4N736 Display, Cathode-Ray Tube, 19, D, M992, Midnight Gray, Dell Americas Organization
1 7T281 Floppy Drive, 1.44M, 3.5" Form Factor, 3MD, No Bezel, TEAC, V4, Chassis 2001
1 6K223 KIT, Software, WKS-STE2K2, 5.25" Form Factor, Original Equipment Mfgr., England/English
1 6W678 KIT, Software, Overpack, WXPHSP1, Compact Diskette w/Documentation, England/English
1 7W515 KIT, DOC/DSK, Software, Digital Video Disk Drive, CYBERLINK, 4.12C
-----&#62;>>>>1 2K222 Hard Drive, 120G, IDE (Integrated Drive Electronics), 1N, 7.2K, WD-XL40 <----------------------

balamm
05-16-2003, 07:33 AM
Duties are not performed for duty&#39;s sake, but because their neglect would make the man uncomfortable. A man performs but one duty - the duty of contenting his spirit, the duty of making himself agreeable to himself.
Mark Twain

Buffalo
05-16-2003, 09:17 AM
My brother had a prob with a secounhand pc, He did a format and crap was still on the hd, I had to fdisk before a format, is that the correct procedure?
It worked when i did that, now running 100%
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DontTauntHappyFunBall
05-16-2003, 12:25 PM
Originally posted by balamm@16 May 2003 - 08:33
So why don&#39;t you call the manufacturer and tell them to supply you with a 15 gig hard drive (which is actually only a 12 gig hard drive) cause that&#39;s what you think they cheated you out of&#33;

lol, I can&#39;t wait to hear the response from them&#33;&#33;

All hard drives are given a generic, rounded off value. And like everyone has been saying, once you add that drive to your system, it needs files and indexes installed to make it work. Those types of files aren&#39;t added to the capacity of the drive, they&#39;re subtracted from it which leaves you with the true operating capacity. The Size that it shows in a hardware evaluation list or system diagnostic is just a generic label for that drive any way and it&#39;s called an "advertised value".
Are you gonna be just as upset when you realize that your 128 meg video card actually only has 120 meg available because some is reserved for the system? Or when you figure out that not all of your ram is available for the same reason?
If you don&#39;t believe that then just run KillDisk to get back the space you think you have and reboot&#33; Good Luck&#33;&#33;&#33;
mother of mercy its like sometimes questions and concers bothers other people more than me. I just asked if there was more than one way to format a hd....and it cam out of the box....that is the "as shipped" document....you over anaylising you must be a chick

Somebody1234
05-16-2003, 12:31 PM
Originally posted by balamm@16 May 2003 - 03:33
So why don&#39;t you call the manufacturer and tell them to supply you with a 15 gig hard drive (which is actually only a 12 gig hard drive) cause that&#39;s what you think they cheated you out of&#33;

lol, I can&#39;t wait to hear the response from them&#33;&#33;

All hard drives are given a generic, rounded off value. And like everyone has been saying, once you add that drive to your system, it needs files and indexes installed to make it work. Those types of files aren&#39;t added to the capacity of the drive, they&#39;re subtracted from it which leaves you with the true operating capacity. The Size that it shows in a hardware evaluation list or system diagnostic is just a generic label for that drive any way and it&#39;s called an "advertised value".
Are you gonna be just&nbsp; as upset when you realize that your 128 meg video card actually only has 120 meg available because some is reserved for the system? Or when you figure out that not all of your ram is available for the same reason?
If you don&#39;t believe that then just run KillDisk to get back the space you think you have and reboot&#33; Good Luck&#33;&#33;&#33;
The above statement is correct.

Also,

1 4N736 Display, Cathode-Ray Tube, 19, D, M992, Midnight Gray, Dell Americas Organization
Why don&#39;t you get mad at your monitor manufacturer. When you measure it you will see that it isn&#39;t 19" but 18". :lol:

DontTauntHappyFunBall
05-16-2003, 12:38 PM
I am not mad at anybody...thats what I&#39;m saying ...
Is there more than one way to format your HD......yes or no...

I am more than happy with my pc and Dell. Anybody could build a pc like this , matter of having the parts, Dell support is why Dell makes the money they deserve it. Memory on this pc has dropped I don&#39;t care if you belive me or not....if you don&#39;t know just fucking say so, this is not a pissing contest

Somebody1234
05-16-2003, 12:59 PM
you over anaylising you must be a chick

if you don&#39;t know just fucking say so, this is not a pissing contest
I know and have tried to explain things to you. You refuse to believe me.

I&#39;m sure that you never had the full 120GB showing in Windows.&nbsp;

I&#39;m sure I did
Why do you have to get nasty when people are trying to help you?

And if you are so fond of Dell support, why don&#39;t you go ask them instead of us?

Buffalo
05-16-2003, 01:06 PM
Originally posted by DontTauntHappyFunBall@16 May 2003 - 12:38
I am not mad at anybody...thats what I&#39;m saying ...
Is there more than one way to format your HD......yes or no...

I am more than happy with my pc and Dell. Anybody could build a pc like this , matter of having the parts, Dell support is why Dell makes the money they deserve it. Memory on this pc has dropped I don&#39;t care if you belive me or not....if you don&#39;t know just fucking say so, this is not a pissing contest
YES, No one has said any thing about my Comments.
FDISK THEN FORMAT then install what ever.

This is what i did and it worked fine.

amphoteric88
05-16-2003, 02:22 PM
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DontTauntHappyFunBall
05-16-2003, 05:18 PM
Originally posted by amphoteric88+16 May 2003 - 15:22--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (amphoteric88 @ 16 May 2003 - 15:22)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--CELEBS_ARE_US@16 May 2003 - 14:06
YES, No one has said any thing about my Comments.
FDISK THEN FORMAT then install what ever.

This is what i did and it worked fine.
this is the way to go
good luck [/b][/quote]
Thank you

DontTauntHappyFunBall
05-16-2003, 09:35 PM
Originally posted by Somebody1234@16 May 2003 - 13:59

you over anaylising you must be a chick

if you don&#39;t know just fucking say so, this is not a pissing contest
I know and have tried to explain things to you. You refuse to believe me.

I&#39;m sure that you never had the full 120GB showing in Windows.

I&#39;m sure I did
Why do you have to get nasty when people are trying to help you?

And if you are so fond of Dell support, why don&#39;t you go ask them instead of us?
well, your not invited to my birthday party