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Seedler
12-28-2006, 03:34 PM
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-5587990522549547050&q=iraq

Watch the video.



Excerpt:

"When we were doing the night raids in the houses, we would pull people out and have them all on their knees and zip-tied. We would ask the man of the house questions. If he didn't answer the way we liked, we would shoot his youngest kid in the head. We would keep going, this was our interrogation. He could be innocent. He could be just an average Joe trying to support his family. If he didn't give us a satisfactory answer, we'd start killing off his family until he told us something. If he didn't know anything, I guess he was SOL."

Seedler
12-28-2006, 03:48 PM
So wtf is America trying to do? Mass genocide of the Iraqi people? How do they possibly hope to cover this shit up forever?

Fucking Americans, like J Macbeth said, most of them don't know the truth in Iraq, fucking too busy eating Mac'D and trying to lose weight at the same time.

Skiz
12-28-2006, 05:38 PM
Fake bullshit.

That guy was never an Army Ranger - He's skinny as a rail ffs. Army Rangers have to endure an incredible amount of training and lifting. No fucking way possible that guy was a Ranger.

Quit getting your "news" from YouTube and Google Video and you might have an intelligent opinion on the matter.

cpt_azad
12-28-2006, 05:52 PM
Fake bullshit.

That guy was never an Army Ranger - He's skinny as a rail ffs. Army Rangers have to endure an incredible amount of training and lifting. No fucking way possible that guy was a Ranger.

Quit getting your "news" from YouTube and Google Video and you might have an intelligent opinion on the matter.

Skizo's right, that guy is not Army Rangers.

This vid is 100% fake.

1) The guy doesn't know how to wear his insignias
2) Who the hell wears a camo pullover for an interview
3) Way too unfit to ever have been in the Army Rangers, Skizo's right man, it takes a lot to become a Ranger this guy was never cut out to be one
4) This video has been debunked several times, go google his name and you'll see

vidcc
12-28-2006, 06:14 PM
Iraq War Veterans Against the War (http://www.ivaw.net/index.php?id=219) put out this statement on their website


MacBeth came to Iraq Veterans Against the War in January 2006 asking for help, and the organization and its members extended itself to help him in various ways. Assisting veterans is one of the founding principles of IVAW and it is a mission that we take seriously. After looking into his recent claims, we have learned that Jesse is not what he represented himself to be. Accordingly, IVAW does not in any way endorse Jesse MacBeth or any of his accounts involving military service. He -- and he alone -- is responsible for them. IVAW was not aware of the creation of the video program featuring MacBeth, and did not authorize use of our logo in the program.

The timing of the widespread circulation of the MacBeth video interestingly coincides with the ongoing military investigation of the recent Marine massacre of two dozen civilians (including women and children) in Haditha, - what is being termed as an atrocity by one member of Congress (R). MacBeth's false statements unfortunately have played into the hands of those who would deny that any atrocities whatsoever are occurring in Iraq. While such murders by military personnel are reprehensible, ultimate blame for these actions must be placed on the responsible commanding officers, Donald Rumsfeld, and the Bush administration who have created the context for chaos in through an illegal and unjust war and occupation which they admit has no end in sight.

IVAW is a young and growing organization of courageous veterans and active duty soldiers in the "War on Terror" whose mission is to end the war in Iraq through immediate withdrawal of troops. We believe that veterans should be given the benefits they deserve upon returning home, and that the United States owes reparations to the Iraqi people for the destruction of their country. The invasion and occupation of Iraq was ill conceived and dishonestly sold to the American people, and IVAW members have the special vantage point of first-hand experience of the war to know why it's wrong and why we need to bring the troops home now.

This was back in May

sgt_kermit
12-29-2006, 09:48 PM
Hey Seedler maybe you should check to see if things are legit, before telling us Americans how bad we are.

Fulanito
12-30-2006, 01:24 AM
it does not matter if the video is fake or not, most of things he says about the US government are true, USA are not going from Iraq untill they have posesion of the country in their pockets.

Skiz
12-30-2006, 02:37 AM
it does not matter if the video is fake or not, most of things he says about the US government are true, USA are not going from Iraq untill they have posesion of the country in their pockets.

Get real. :dry:

So are the Spanish, Australians, English, etc., etc., etc., just trying to help us 'steal their country'? or whatever the fuck you're attempting to convey.

sgt_kermit
01-06-2007, 11:47 AM
it does not matter if the video is fake or not, most of things he says about the US government are true, USA are not going from Iraq untill they have posesion of the country in their pockets.

I agree with Skizo. We would love to pull out of Iraq, but it can't be done until their Army is strong enough to defend itself. We don't want Iraq.

bornwithnoname
01-16-2007, 12:37 AM
Hey seedler... anybody ever tell you that if you wake the sleeping dragon that he's liable to bite your ass

Ava Estelle
01-16-2007, 04:08 AM
Hey seedler... anybody ever tell you that if you wake the sleeping dragon that he's liable to bite your ass

Yeah, go tell that to the North Koreans, Vietnamese, Nicaraguans, etc., sleeping dragon my arse!

EisDann
01-28-2007, 10:01 PM
I hate activist groups they go way too far, misrepresenting things by making videos like this to try and con people into supporting their ideas

vidcc
01-28-2007, 10:03 PM
I hate activist groups they go way too far, misrepresenting things by making videos like this to try and con people into supporting their ideas
Misrepresenting things is hardly unique to activist groups. Government does it all the time.

bigboab
01-30-2007, 08:46 PM
You cant blame the fellow. He is just trying to make some extra money to pay for his exceptionally high phone bills.:(