Goodbye Bit torrent, Hello Newsgroups!

[Colt Seevers]

Hey, I've been converted to Newsgroups!!! http://smilies.sofrayt.com/^/aiw/victory.gif

I've finally decided to make some effort and go back and give Newsgroups a fair crack! http://smilies.sofrayt.com/^/aiw/blush2.gif

Initially I've been put off using Newsgroups, as they were the first thing I tried even before my K-Lite days... The experience, much like IRC wasn't good and kinda put me off. http://smilies.sofrayt.com/^/aiw/cry.gif

But after doing some reading, using some of the guides posted here, and generally being annoyed with the whole Bit torrent scene, the reasons are many and I wont waffle on too much.. http://smilies.sofrayt.com/^/aiw/good.gif But anyway I was getting a bit miffed with how the Bit torrent P2P world seems to be going:


I really don't have the upload bandwidth anymore to keep a good ratio.
Most (but not all) BT sites appear to be taking the format of "pay to leech". (Which is basically extortion with some of the rules certain sites have; practically make it impossible to keep a good ratio, thus making sure if you are a heavy user you will almost certainly have to "donate".
Speed varies greatly depending on how many seeders there are and how much bandwidth those seeders are giving out. In general speeds are usually good, but not always.
Most stuff appears on Newsgroups before or shortly after the torrent sites get it, mostly.. ofcourse there are always exceptions...
I'm getting sick to death of leaving my PC on 24/7 in order to keep some kind of good ratio.. I would like to occasionaly turn the thing off every now and then! http://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/m/indifferent1.gif
Due to my low upload speed it means I have to keep stuff on my hard drive for longer, taking up valuable space.
Generally begging for invites or having to provide proof of a good ratio just gets on my tits. Some of the crap that goes on with the invites, (although I haven't personally been scammed), is just becoming tiresome. Even the "<insert name here> is a scammer" threads that turn into quite an entertaining flame battle are just getting a bit weak tbh.

http://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/_950/cleverman.gif

The straw that broke the camels back was when I got a dedicated Linux box, and decided to start using that for my BT downloads, which is good for your ratio, but pretty bad for your wallet.. I suddenly had the brainwave of saying wait a sec all this money could be getting used for more important things, ie beer! http://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/x/beer.gifI could pay 1/10th of the amount im currently paying for a dedi box and use that for Newsgroup account....that was enough for me, server contract: cancelled. http://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/a/bye.gif


I'm sure there are other reasons why I'm ditching BT, but these are the main ones. lol and I did say I wasn't going to waffle on? http://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/j0/type.gif

Well I got Newsleecher+50 gigs worth on Usenet, and I have to say I'm impressed downloads are constantly maxed out and doubt very much I will be using BT at all, maybe to grab the occasional album from Oink, but apart from that I doubt vey much I will be going back.


I've just re-read this brain-fart of a thread and I would like to apologise for telling you guys stuff you have been banging on to us for ages about, but hey it just takes a while for the info to sink into my thick skull.. http://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/j0/lightbul.gif

Newsgroups FTW! http://smilies.sofrayt.com/^/aiw/ninja2.gif

Oh aye, and I forgot that the point of this thread was I actually had a question: if during my Newsleecher searches say I find something that hasn't been posted here and I start to download it, am I right in thinking that I can then take the NZB that I downloaded and post it up here to share? I don't have to complete downloading the file? I'm pretty sure I know the answer but I would like to make sure before I post anything.

I feel better now thats all out...

Cheers! http://smilies.sofrayt.com/^/aiw/yahoo.gif

[MultiForce]

Got no clue on the NZB question as I always use the search engines etc. to generate that file, but I just want so say welcome to a better world hehe.

[movbuff]

Oh aye, and I forgot that the point of this thread was I actually had a question: if during my Newsleecher searches say I find something that hasn't been posted here and I start to download it, am I right in thinking that I can then take the NZB that I downloaded and post it up here to share? I don't have to complete downloading the file? I'm pretty sure I know the answer but I would like to make sure before I post anything.
Yes as I can't think why not. Enjoy your new find.

[Colt Seevers]

thanks guys!!
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Now lets all get naked and have a group hug!! http://hpd.chiconcerts.com/emot/badger.gif

[gamer4eva]

thanks guys!!
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Now lets all get naked and have a group hug!! http://hpd.chiconcerts.com/emot/badger.gif

Naaa don't think that would be a pleasant site for any of us.:(

[Adent]

I can only agree, I've been using usenet for a long time now, but my ISP has recently blocked off several binary groups(the best ones :P), including any movies and tv episodes so I'm currently stuck with bittorrent again. Looking to subscribe to a usenet service. (the search for which actually brought me here)

[Hanz™]

It's totally true.
It's so nice being able to download a 10GB hd file and not having to worry about the bad shit it is doing to my ratio.

[mesaman]

I'm getting sick to death of leaving my PC on 24/7 in order to keep some kind of good ratio.. I would like to occasionaly turn the thing off every now and then! http://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/m/indifferent1.gif
I like to turn off my PC too, but often I'll grab a few NZB's during the day, and load them just before I go to bed. Then everything's done by morning, and I'm not downloading anything during the day which is nice.

[Broken]

I got tired of every torrent site I ever used going under.
Phoenix, Loki, Torrentit, especially when I would spend months building a double or even triple digit ratio surplus.

Tired of begging for invites. Tired of worry about who I was sharing with. Tired putting up with "holier-than-thou" site staff. Tired of ratios.



You've made a good move.

[fred861]

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[Colt Seevers]

give me 15$ a month and i'll convert myself too!


Nah, you just keep concentrating on that all important ratio..

[stephenchow]

Hello Sir Colt Seevers,
You're welcome,
BTW, think about your account at private trackers, do you mind giving them to me?
I'm looking for OinK music tracker and BitMeTV TV show tracker.
It's up to you and I know you will say 'yes'
If it happened, I would say thank you for being a good guy
Have a good weekeen and don't forget about PM me,
Thank you first.

[Hanz™]

Hello Sir Colt Seevers,
You're welcome,
BTW, think about your account at private trackers, do you mind giving them to me?
I'm looking for OinK music tracker and BitMeTV TV show tracker.
It's up to you and I know you will say 'yes'
If it happened, I would say thank you for being a good guy
Have a good weekeen and don't forget about PM me,
Thank you first.
Nobody in their right mind would give up any of those sites!

[FriLock]

give me 15$ a month and i'll convert myself too!

All I did was take my girl to 1 less movie a month an boom there was my bucks :) I'm on Newshosting's NH45 plan and get 80+ day retention using NZBs.

Oh yea and when I said I take her to 1 less movie a month I forgot to say that we watch a crap load more movies ate home now. Props be to the Usenet.


http://www.newshosting.com

[Fulanito]

The title is very funny hehe i love torrents to much to leave them

[digitrifecta]

The title is very funny hehe i love torrents to much to leave them

Once you have learned how to use it and you have tried the usenet, going back to using torrents is a tough sell, the newsgroups have too many advantages over the torrents :whistling

Usenet + Newsleecher + Newzbin = all you need :D

need guides check here or slyck.com or mantup.com

[Skiz]

I can't ever figure it out. I've tried 2 different tutorials and still get completely lost. :cry:

[Athlon64]

It's really hard at first but you really must read everything on newsgroups/usenet so you can get some idea of what you're getting into. Some people read too much and have so much on their plate that they can't process all that information. To be honest I don't even remember how I even got into this whole scene 4-5 years ago as it was much harder back then lol!

[General2k]

Newsgroups are the way to go. If it wasn't for some rare movies that pop up on some of the trackers I wouldn't use em. Some of the newsgroups even have forums and IRC channels where you can request stuff.
They are far superior to any Tracker.

[jasonwayne]

once you go usenet u never go back i dont like waiting myself.


your question try this site and create your own .nzbs its totally free http://www.binsearch.info/

[digitrifecta]

I can't ever figure it out. I've tried 2 different tutorials and still get completely lost. :cry:

When I first started using the newsgroups, I used the guide on slyck.com
to get me started.

http://www.slyck.com/ng.php

Hope this helps :)

[Nodachi216]

Got a good chuckle reading the title to this thread. :D

I use both bittorrent and usenet, some things seem to turn up quicker on torrents but usenet has the better download speed.

It always comes down to the same thing, use whatever works for you.

[phoenixfire]

I use both. Once my monthly 2gb on Comcast are up I switch to torrents.

[sjslall]

I really am into Torrents.
You do get the best torrents for practically everything.
Private trackers have the best stuff
I have used usenet but found it good for movies and software.
It completely fails with e-learning.
If anyone has some nzb sites for e-learning do let us know

[FriLock]

For all the torrent users out there who aren't convinced that the usenet is the best way to share content, check this article out on slyck.com

It talks about all the advantages the usenet has over p2p.

http://www.slyck.com/story1376.html (http://www.slyck.com/story1376.html)

good read :)

[Curlz31]

I've just started using Usenet via Giganews Platinum. Download Speed is obviously superior, however the search process is not as elegant as with private torrent sites. Bitmetv neatly lists new releases and organizes them into categories, whereas searching for a 0-day tv release on newzbin, binsearch etc is very messy.

[MultiForce]

You have to find a good combo between the sites. I get all the shows I'm interesting in from http://www.tvnzb.com/nzb. For games I use this site and binsearch. For movies and programs I just use this site and sometimes binsearch to get stuff that's not posted.

I have tried all the NZB sites that has been posted here and other places and none of them has it all.