The invites worth thread needs to be rethinked.

[kavalchuk17]

Verry funny that find ..... more than 15 PPL inthe same day offer :

(( offering a 4.5 rated site )) :D :lol: agian , not fair 2 compare FB with F*n :S

anyway thnx for make me laughing :lol:

Captainmasr has been lobbying hard to change what F** should be on the Invites worth thread, which brings up a good point.

The thing is people take this thread too literally and imo i think is should be totally scrapped or redone someway different.

i've been thinking about it very much recently and i think it should be changed into a 4 point scale, or even better, into something that has nothing to do with math or numbers and cannot be taken to literal that way.

The best way i can think of doing that off the top of my head is by using colors (or warm-hot, or whatever as long as it has no numbers). I think that could be the solution that makes this list help us like it should, instead of hindering trades and killing a potentially friendlier trading environment, like i think it is doing.

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Also i think there could be a way to range the value of different sites. For example an FTN power (200G up) account is worth a hell of alot more than an invite. Pisexy, you cant get invites unless youve been a member for at least 12 weeks, an invite would also be worth alot less there. A place like F*** you only need to wait 2 weeks (with 25G up) to get invites, so the range would be smaller on that one. Also, you could range sites with actual value and rarity. So TL would be something like [ TL: 2 - 4 ]

Thats another way we could change the system so people wouldnt be so concrete and stuck about the numbers.

Also see this post (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/bittorrent-invites-section/t-the-invites-worth-thread-needs-rethinked-147557/page3#post1649702)

[upGrayde]

Most accounts/invites aren't worth shit with the homos in here getting accounts disabled.

[Itachi_Avenger]

i think that someone should create a new thread called What Sites Are Worth or something similar..here there will be the BEST trackers 4 content and pretime, not for rarity...IMHO TL ist better than many many sites

[dukegotgame]

i agree tl is better than alot of the sites that are rated higher

[upGrayde]

scc and scp are having some insanely fast pretimes as of late

[RainRoofer]

i think that someone should create a new thread called What Sites Are Worth or something similar..
Check this, I'm working on it.
Any help is good.
Link (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/bittorrent-invites-section/t--trackers-worth--142717)

[poltergeist]

You cannot rate a tracker like underground-gamer by it's pre-times.
And when you say that oink in example is a great tracker, others will say that they do not have any porn there, means that it depends on the content one is looking for.

In the end, it is one's personal decision. What is it worth to any single user to have an account on ScT? Some would die to get in, other's are looking for a more "community based" tracker.
Some ppl only look at the pre times, others do not care when they dl a scene release after 2 days or so.
So whenever you make any kind of list, you have some "overhyped" communities and some that are not rated at all because they are so secret that not much ppl know them.

So in my eyes, when you make something at all, you've gotta look at far more criteria except how many ppl want to get in there right now.

[poltergeist]

scc and scp are having some insanely fast pretimes as of late

Pff. ScP uploads releases with the comment
"Only at ScP"
but it was uploaded to TB already...

[General2k]

i think that someone should create a new thread called What Sites Are Worth or something similar..here there will be the BEST trackers 4 content and pretime, not for rarity...IMHO TL ist better than many many sites
Yes I agree with this. It should not be rarity, it should be quality, content and pretime. Just because its hard to get an account somewhere should mean its rated the best. Its BS

[tonydog518]

contents ,transfer speed and pretime are more important
rarity is nothing....

[Backslash]

pretimes are stupid. i dont really care about pretime. waiting fifteen minutes is not gonna kill me when i have six different trackers to choose from. transfer speed is bs too. only amount of leechers and torrents is important and, of course, the content i'm looking for.

[Submission]

yeah I second that, rarity means shit. Only valuable to a couple anal retentive members here. If they want it so bad let them pay a ton for it but keep it out of the rating system.

It should be rated on content, speed, pretime and something like requests. By the last one I mean like how fast and often a very old release is filled, ie ftwr would be like 4/5 or 5/5. This rarity wastes people's time.

[phoenixfire]

pretimes are stupid. i dont really care about pretime. waiting fifteen minutes is not gonna kill me when i have six different trackers to choose from. transfer speed is bs too. only amount of leechers and torrents is important and, of course, the content i'm looking for.Transfer speed isn't bs. Cuz you know I would like my files quick and you know, not taking forever to download.:)

[Backslash]

pretimes are stupid. i dont really care about pretime. waiting fifteen minutes is not gonna kill me when i have six different trackers to choose from. transfer speed is bs too. only amount of leechers and torrents is important and, of course, the content i'm looking for.Transfer speed isn't bs. Cuz you know I would like my files quick and you know, not taking forever to download.:)if there's enough seeders, i max out easily. i get fast enough speeds on most sites i use. taking forever download depends on filesize as well. you can't compare leeching something from hdbits and oink and seeing which finishes first

[zaguar]

FTN is great cause of the free packs and the great content that is only available.

Any scale that ranked sites would have to exclude sites like Oink and BitmeTV from the 0-day trackers.

[Invites_4_You]

i think that someone should create a new thread called What Sites Are Worth or something similar..here there will be the BEST trackers 4 content and pretime, not for rarity...IMHO TL ist better than many many sites

Yeah if you just wanna download Music DVDs.


i agree tl is better than alot of the sites that are rated higher

I used to love TL but the last few months my love has been lost for it. Nothing but crap gets uploaded there anymore.

[Shadowfire]

With Zagar, agreed. Rating general sites should be different from ranking specialized ones, because quality is different with specialized ones. Content is more important over speed, pretime, and whatnot. (If I can't find the file anywhere else, I'm willing to wait a week before it finishes downloading).

If a new thread is made, supply and demand should be considered. With the old one, only the supply is considered. This means that U*-* is ranked so high because about zip people have invites. However, hardly anyone except elitists want the site, because everyone says it's just an average site.

There should 2 site ranking scales: one each for general and specialized trackers.

There should 1 invite ranking scale: some people each week should take the numeric calculations of the number of times a site is wanted, and divide it by the number of times it is needed. The number would be its ranking. However, a site would not make the list if either the wanted or the needed number is below a certain amount (let's say 6). [edit: Nevermind, not such a good idea now that I think about it more. Since most trades are done in PMs, you wouldn't know the exact number.]

Of course, the above ranking system would be too complicated and literal for practical use, but it sounds like a cool concept to my half-gone mind. Maybe it could be an add-on to a simpler 4-number or color scale.

[gamer4eva]

With Zagar, agreed. Rating general sites should be different from ranking specialized ones, because quality is different with specialized ones. Content is more important over speed, pretime, and whatnot. (If I can't find the file anywhere else, I'm willing to wait a week before it finishes downloading).

If a new thread is made, supply and demand should be considered. With the old one, only the supply is considered. This means that U*-* is ranked so high because about zip people have invites. However, hardly anyone except elitists want the site, because everyone says it's just an average site.

There should 2 site ranking scales: one each for general and specialized trackers.

There should 1 invite ranking scale: some people each week should take the numeric calculations of the number of times a site is wanted, and divide it by the number of times it is needed. The number would be its ranking. However, a site would not make the list if either the wanted or the needed number is below a certain amount (let's say 6). [edit: Nevermind, not such a good idea now that I think about it more. Since most trades are done in PMs, you wouldn't know the exact number.]

Of course, the above ranking system would be too complicated and literal for practical use, but it sounds like a cool concept to my half-gone mind. Maybe it could be an add-on to a simpler 4-number or color scale.

That was a lot to take in.....:w00t: but a more efficient system is how hard or easy it is to get hold of acc AND how good their speeds are. Personally these two are main factors which determines whether a site is worth hunting.:lol:

[superman1496]

FTN is cool, if you wait a while most popular stuff is free so no need to worry about keeping ratio up. However there is a very small # of seeders, probably because there is only 5000ppl.

RevT is by far my most used site. Very fast releases. TL is right there with it. They really go back and forth on which one gets it first.

IDK what sct or other ultra rare sites are like. I had iplay, which was considered 4.5, but I never used it. I didnt find it nearly as valuable at TL or RevT

[gamer4eva]

FTN is cool, if you wait a while most popular stuff is free so no need to worry about keeping ratio up. However there is a very small # of seeders, probably because there is only 5000ppl.

RevT is by far my most used site. Very fast releases. TL is right there with it. They really go back and forth on which one gets it first.

IDK what sct or other ultra rare sites are like. I had iplay, which was considered 4.5, but I never used it. I didnt find it nearly as valuable at TL or RevT

Revtt has really done ya know.:)

[superman1496]

Revtt has really done ya know.:)

ive read that 5 times and dont know what you are trying to say. Maybe Im dumb :whistling

[Green Goblin]

It's amazing how many ppl dog TL but every where you look ppl are asking for an invite. IMO i love TL my fav site nxt to Bitmetv now.

[Detale]

I also think that some sites like Chronic Tracker and Torrent damage are under-Rated

[Alien5]

Bitme.tv :lol: its good for packs or stuff you think is hard to find.

i dont think Chronic Tracker or Torrent damage are under-Rated.

[Patriot foreve]

I think that's why we are doing Reviews on Trackers on the sticky thread,i agree that the trackers there are rated by rarity but if u checked the reviews u would see all the ratings including conent,pre times,speed,.....

so why don't u guys read the available reviews and decide what trackers u want ;)

[kavalchuk17]

And stop taking the tread too literally while your at it.

[kavalchuk17]

I've updated my first post, so go look at it or i'll just quote it here


Also i think there could be a way to range the value of different sites. For example an FTN power (200G up) account is worth a hell of alot more than an invite. Pisexy, you cant get invites unless youve been a member for at least 12 weeks, an invite would also be worth alot less there. A place like F*** you only need to wait 2 weeks (with 25G up) to get invites, so the range would be smaller on that one. Also, you could range sites with actual value and rarity. So TL would be something like [ TL: 2 - 4 ]

Thats another way we could change the system so people wouldnt be so concrete and stuck about the numbers.

[Moonspell13]

I started writing some things but ended up kinda writing a book :P or so, so here's a synopsis:
The Invites thread now more is hindering trades as kavalchuck said that promoting them.. the reason is that sites are rated based on some ppl's only opinion not to mention that some other deliberatelly want to pump up values to gain more ;)
And as another guy said, I 've never seen the value of something being based only on supply but not on demand.. Really, who would want a U*** acc if it wasn't on that thread?? Nobody I guess.. Same with RP.. same with Revolt .. and some others...
My own opinion is that it should be purged and a new one , which doesn't rate, but only reviews popular/good sites (number of torrents etc.) should be made so that anyone could simply check what he really wants and not bothering with getting acc lvl x to get lvl z to get finally acc y ....
Anyway I have a lot to write on this but gonna check how the conversation is going and come again..
ps. One of the worst things is that that thread has been used more than one time from some ppl for personal gain, to pump up a sites' value they have etc... If you have sticked for a while in this forum you should already have noticed .. Some ppl I also think act as a "group"... Anyway..later

[kavalchuk17]

My own opinion is that it should be purged and a new one , which doesn't rate, but only reviews popular/good sites (number of torrents etc.) should be made so that anyone could simply check what he really wants and not bothering with getting acc lvl x to get lvl z to get finally acc y ....


You know, i agree 100% and i think im gonna update my post tomorrow with that. It might solve all the problems we have here if we did that, then listed how often, or how you get invites. Because thats really how we determine value, and why not just get to the core of it.

[FlipRising21]

interesting def agree wit moon bout this

[RedVision]

I think that we should consider only the following things:
Pre times,Speed,Content.
that's what make sites so good.

[RainRoofer]

RedVision, check this (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/bittorrent-invites-section/t--trackers-worth--142717) project.

[gamer4eva]

Its a nice thread thanks for your valiant effort.

[RainRoofer]

tnx, it's just summerised, it needs a lot of work to be completed.

[Shadowfire]

I started writing some things but ended up kinda writing a book :P or so, so here's a synopsis:
The Invites thread now more is hindering trades as kavalchuck said that promoting them.. the reason is that sites are rated based on some ppl's only opinion not to mention that some other deliberatelly want to pump up values to gain more ;)
And as another guy said, I 've never seen the value of something being based only on supply but not on demand.. Really, who would want a U*** acc if it wasn't on that thread?? Nobody I guess.. Same with RP.. same with Revolt .. and some others...
My own opinion is that it should be purged and a new one , which doesn't rate, but only reviews popular/good sites (number of torrents etc.) should be made so that anyone could simply check what he really wants and not bothering with getting acc lvl x to get lvl z to get finally acc y ....
Anyway I have a lot to write on this but gonna check how the conversation is going and come again..
ps. One of the worst things is that that thread has been used more than one time from some ppl for personal gain, to pump up a sites' value they have etc... If you have sticked for a while in this forum you should already have noticed .. Some ppl I also think act as a "group"... Anyway..later

That's exactly why I maintain that the number of requests for an invite to the sites should be taken into consideration. Seriously, how many requests for U*** are there?

[Alien5]

It sounds to me that this thread is just a moan about how the small sites cant be at the top of the list.

[RainRoofer]

Correct.
But users still wanna have acc at those trackers :)

[Shadowfire]

I'm not talking about small or not. I'm talking about how many people actually want it. And I'm not saying it's shouldn't be at the top. I'm saying it shouldn't even be on the list at all.

[RainRoofer]

Yup, I don't even know why would someone want RP :/ or any other...

[Shadowfire]

Heh, Thor's land. Pshh.

[tonydog518]

what is thorland about?

[Shadowfire]

There's a review in the worth thread. I think it's French tracker, but the name makes it sound nordic more than anything else.

[jounior]

i think invite should rated as how hard to get it ,not how the site is rare or not,
as some sites including pisexy its hard to get invite there

[gamer4eva]

Pisexy issue invites to users don't they...so i don't think pisexy is hard anymore.

[jounior]

Ok What About F**

[Shadowfire]

imo, the concept should be more like would you be willing to sacrifice this invite/account for this invite/account.

By the way, gamer, did you make your siggy?