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j2k4
05-19-2003, 02:25 PM
Our ranks (those who care to DEBATE, DISCUSS, and SOLVE) are growing nicely-while we may never take over the reins, perhaps we could invite the power-mongers in for a look-see-maybe they would/could learn something. :lol:

Seriously-

It's cooking pretty good here these days-perhaps we should think about petitioning the mods to re-name this section to reflect the need to discuss politics/international affairs, etc., on an ongoing basis; the current heading seems a bit out-moded by now.

Any thoughts?

soopaman
05-19-2003, 03:08 PM
Good call, a "Current Affairs" section would be better than having the "War in Iraq" title. The Lounge doesn't seem the right place to discuss the more serious aspects of life. We got a Bookworld so there is hope!! :D

clocker
05-19-2003, 05:14 PM
Great idea, j2!

http://sportsmed.starwave.com/media/pg2/2002/0520/photo/tyson.jpg

Mikey likes it!

Why not just call it "Ongoing Discussion"?

j2k4
05-19-2003, 05:31 PM
Originally posted by clocker@19 May 2003 - 12:14
Great idea, j2!

http://sportsmed.starwave.com/media/pg2/2002/0520/photo/tyson.jpg

Mikey likes it!

Why not just call it "Ongoing Discussion"?
When I saw you'd replied, I thought, "He'll have a tough time finding a picture for this"-I stand corrected. :P

I forgot to add to the my original post the following:

"...and make this a permanent part of the forum".

Speaking of Mikey 'liking it'..... :lol:

Okay-that's two of you- :)

clocker
05-19-2003, 05:45 PM
http://www.weht.net/pics/mikey.jpg

Mikeys worldwide like it!

hobbes
05-20-2003, 02:22 AM
Originally posted by j2k4+19 May 2003 - 15:25--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (j2k4 @ 19 May 2003 - 15:25)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Our ranks (those who care to DEBATE, DISCUSS, and SOLVE) are growing nicely-while we may never take over the reins, perhaps we could invite the power-mongers in for a look-see-maybe they would/could learn something. :lol:

Seriously-

It&#39;s cooking pretty good here these days-perhaps we should think about petitioning the mods to re-name this section to reflect the need to discuss politics/international affairs, etc., on an ongoing basis; the current heading seems a bit out-moded by now.

Any thoughts?[/b]
J2K4 the idea is brilliant,

I can remember a contemptuous but prescient newbie posting something like this on April 19th.


<!--QuoteBegin--hobbes@19 April 2003 - 20:17
" Seems that this forum has sort of selected out the more serious type of poster and there has been a rather inspiring exchange of ideas and view points. Trust me, I come from the Anarchy Online forum (just an online game) and this is so much more enjoyable. I don&#39;t have to re-invent the wheel everyday.

Shame we can&#39;t somehow preserve this more mature area so we are not thrown back in the "Whose got the cutest butt" social forum.

Hey, I&#39;m all for taking about "boobies" and such, but it seems that more serious discussions are immisible with this silly (but healthy) banter.

What I&#39;m saying is that I don&#39;t want to be thrown back into the kiddie pool. Give us an adult section [/quote]


I&#39;m sure he has moved on, but his message remains.

I would only add that I would like the forum to be broader than just politics. I am more of a concepts/ ideas man. To be honest, I find political discussions to be about as interesting as watching a dog chase it&#39;s tail and equally as productive.

I think the name should be reflective of gentleman sitting in a large book lined study, stone drunk on brandy and contemplating their glass. Smoking jackets and a pipe, required.

The Drawing Room, The Parlour, The Lounge, The Inner Chamber or The Gentleman&#39;s Club.

I know the last will draw pc ire, but look at the posts in this forum, can you find any women? I don&#39;t think they enjoy these sometimes testy exchanges. We will of course allow guest passes for ladies such as Sara who don&#39;t mind exchanging punches every now and then.

I actually use bookworld for this function now, but I still find the title restrictive.

j2k4
05-20-2003, 03:31 AM
Originally posted by hobbes@19 May 2003 - 21:22
I can remember a contemptuous but prescient newbie posting something like this on April 19th.


Hmmmmmm.....
I kinda thought that noob had it goin&#39; on-didn&#39;t feel he was contemptuous, just possessed of a forceful conviction.

Anyway, if such was the case (as I&#39;m well aware it was), I&#39;ll settle for a second on his original &#39;motion&#39;. :P

Might I also add: Your idea of a "Drawing Room" is, dare I say it, PERFECT?
Would seem to summon the desired imagery.

And, as I myself can claim enlightenment as to the benefit of the distaff view, I would welcome, indeed encourage, their participation. ;)

I propose we informally vote, or offer other suggestions, as to a name for this section, so that we might present a finished idea to the powers that be. B)


P.S.
Another suggestion for name-"THE DEEP END" :lol:

ShockAndAwe^i^
05-20-2003, 03:43 AM
The lounge is a place where hardly anything of substance is discussed.
I think that this place should&#39;nt be associated with it at all.
I&#39;ve made a request to a couple of admins who were responding to another post of mine and I&#39;m waiting to hear what they say.

clocker
05-20-2003, 04:06 AM
http://www.webtitanic.net/room1.gif

Ladies and gentlemen, please come in and make yourselves comfortable...


the non-smoking section is down the hall about 400 yards...

j2k4
05-20-2003, 04:14 AM
Originally posted by clocker@19 May 2003 - 23:06
http://www.webtitanic.net/room1.gif

Ladies and gentlemen, please come in and make yourselves comfortable...


the non-smoking section is down the hall about 400 yards...
Nice architecture-when could we move in? B)

j2k4
05-20-2003, 04:17 AM
Another compelling suggestion I will offer up on behalf of my esteemed colleague Clocker:

"THE SANDBOX"

clocker
05-20-2003, 04:29 AM
Originally posted by j2k4@19 May 2003 - 22:17
Another compelling suggestion I will offer up on behalf of my esteemed colleague Clocker:

&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; "THE SANDBOX"
Good idea, but I fear that if we name it that all the cats from the lounge threads will come in and shit.

In honor of you, j2, we could call it The Conservatory" but there may be too much baggage attached... :P

j2k4
05-20-2003, 04:36 AM
Originally posted by clocker+19 May 2003 - 23:29--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker @ 19 May 2003 - 23:29)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--j2k4@19 May 2003 - 22:17
Another compelling suggestion I will offer up on behalf of my esteemed colleague Clocker:

&nbsp; "THE SANDBOX"
Good idea, but I fear that if we name it that all the cats from the lounge threads will come in and shit.

In honor of you, j2, we could call it The Conservatory" but there may be too much baggage attached... :P [/b][/quote]
Too too true...... ;)

kAb
05-20-2003, 09:23 PM
good idea. maybe make posts count to ;)

clocker
05-20-2003, 10:56 PM
Originally posted by kAb@20 May 2003 - 15:23
good idea. maybe make posts count to ;)
Perhaps....

Make the posts count negatively. For every post in the New World you subtract from your count. That would eliminate those who are only interested in inflating their count and ultimately lead to a new standard of cool. Big post counts would become beourgouis and declasse. The truely hip would have negative numbers.

And of course, you would have to wear black...

MagicNakor
05-21-2003, 01:07 AM
That would have the opposite effect, sadly. Once people started seeing the negative numbers as the "new cool," they&#39;d start spamming in here to fit in. The Lounge II, if you will.

:ninja:

ShockAndAwe^i^
05-21-2003, 01:57 AM
Originally posted by clocker+20 May 2003 - 23:56--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker @ 20 May 2003 - 23:56)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--kAb@20 May 2003 - 15:23
good idea. maybe make posts count to ;)
Perhaps....

Make the posts count negatively. For every post in the New World you subtract from your count. That would eliminate those who are only interested in inflating their count and ultimately lead to a new standard of cool. Big post counts would become beourgouis and declasse. The truely hip would have negative numbers.

And of course, you would have to wear black... [/b][/quote]
Thats a very good idea&#33;
I was thinking that these posts should count as well,but by essentially charging someone to post here,I think it just might keep them away....nonono
wait a minute&#33;
Have you seen the post totals of some of those lounge lizards?

-200 I like that&#33; B)

j2k4
05-21-2003, 03:28 AM
Originally posted by clocker+20 May 2003 - 17:56--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker @ 20 May 2003 - 17:56)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--kAb@20 May 2003 - 15:23
good idea. maybe make posts count to ;)
Perhaps....

Make the posts count negatively. For every post in the New World you subtract from your count. That would eliminate those who are only interested in inflating their count and ultimately lead to a new standard of cool. Big post counts would become beourgouis and declasse. The truely hip would have negative numbers.

And of course, you would have to wear black... [/b][/quote]
Are you suggesting a &#39;Goth&#39; theme, to attract the youngsters? :huh:

sArA
05-21-2003, 04:00 AM
A little &#39;thankyou&#39; to Hobbes for his anti-mysoginistic stance on the proposed new &#39;room&#39;, although I bristle at being &#39;allowed&#39; a special pass, much like the &#39;honorary&#39; member title for ladies within many a golf club.

Clearly, there are less women on the board than men meaning that as a percentage of participation, I and my other occasional female contributors may actually be providing input at the same frequency as the men.

I am unsure of the figures, but there are approximately 10 regular contributors to the banter.

If I am the most regular female (no proof here though) and represent roughly 10% of the posters here, and the total board membership consists of approximately 10% women (again no evidence) then the ratio is about even.

This means that there is no need for a &#39;guest&#39; membership for me.

Might I suggest &#39;Semantic Banters&#39; as a name?

or perhaps,

&#39;Dialectic Discourse&#39;

j2k4
05-21-2003, 04:35 AM
Originally posted by sara5564@20 May 2003 - 23:00
A little &#39;thankyou&#39; to Hobbes for his anti-mysoginistic stance on the proposed new &#39;room&#39;, although I bristle at being &#39;allowed&#39; a special pass, much like the &#39;honorary&#39; member title for ladies within many a golf club.

Clearly, there are less women on the board than men meaning that as a percentage of participation, I and my other occasional female contributors may actually be providing input at the same frequency as the men.

I am unsure of the figures, but there are approximately 10 regular contributors to the banter.

If I am the most regular female (no proof here though) and represent roughly 10% of the posters here, and the total board membership consists of approximately 10% women (again no evidence) then the ratio is about even.

This means that there is no need for a &#39;guest&#39; membership for me.

Might I suggest &#39;Semantic Banters&#39; as a name?

or perhaps,

&#39;Dialectic Discourse&#39;
Sara-
At this time, I feel it only proper to importune you please, please, pretty please come out and play?

I know I speak for all (the guys) here as I beseech you to come roll &#39;round in the mud with us?

It&#39;s really good mud-

Have you ever been &#39;beseeched&#39; before?

I&#39;d be interested in your reaction to a really good beseeching-if this isn&#39;t your first, how does this one measure up?

Do you like to be beseeched by one, or would you prefer to be gang-beseeched? :P


Seriously (my favorite way), though-

There are no &#39;Hootie Johnsons&#39; here, and this ain&#39;t Augusta-but it is the Masters.

Would you join us? :)

clocker
05-21-2003, 05:40 PM
"Gang beseeched"? :P :P :P

Rat Faced
05-21-2003, 05:41 PM
If it happened, I would be supporting it staying as a sub section of the lounge.....without a post count.

As there are always more people read this area than contribute (I think some members use this AS the news ;) )...........I think a Poll is in order.

clocker
05-21-2003, 05:48 PM
Originally posted by Rat Faced@21 May 2003 - 11:41


As there are always more people read this area than contribute (I think some members use this AS the news ;) )...........I think a Poll is in order.
God, I hope that&#39;s not true&#33;

People- take everything here with many grains of salt&#33;

J2 thinks FOX NEWS is fair and balanced&#33;

j2k4
05-21-2003, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by clocker+21 May 2003 - 12:48--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker @ 21 May 2003 - 12:48)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Rat Faced@21 May 2003 - 11:41


As there are always more people read this area than contribute (I think some members use this AS the news ;) )...........I think a Poll is in order.
God, I hope that&#39;s not true&#33;

People- take everything here with many grains of salt&#33;

J2 thinks FOX NEWS is fair and balanced&#33; [/b][/quote]
I will cop to &#39;balanced&#39;, as both sides ARE represented on FOX.

It is NOT, however, FAIR-the liberal view doesn&#39;t hold up.

"Logic doth smite liberalism a mortal blow...." ONLY ON FOX NEWS*, HOME OF THE &#39;FOXIEST&#39; NEWSBABES ON EARTH :lol:

*Also known as the last bastion of chauvanism on T.V. :P

clocker
05-21-2003, 06:42 PM
http://www.saja.org/images/dhaliwal3.jpg
The best reason to watch ITN :P

MagicNakor
05-22-2003, 12:49 AM
Originally posted by j2k4@21 May 2003 - 19:29
*Also known as the last bastion of chauvanism on T.V. :P
And here I thought "The Man Show" could take that title. ;)

:ninja:

sArA
05-23-2003, 02:14 AM
Sirs,

To be beseeched with such charm and fortitude leaves little room for refusal or forebearance.

However, beseech no more and save my blushes that I may participate at my instigation alone.

Verily, I shall provide a response should my perusal and deliberation require that the conversation has created sufficient tension in my mind as to necessitate a timely addition.

Warm mud&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; yeaaaay bring it on&#33;&#33;&#33; last one in is a rotten egg&#33;&#33;&#33;

clocker
05-23-2003, 02:29 AM
Excellent Sara&#33;

Did the gang beseeching help?

j2k4
05-23-2003, 03:08 PM
Originally posted by sara5564@22 May 2003 - 21:14
Sirs,

To be beseeched with such charm and fortitude leaves little room for refusal or forebearance.

However, beseech no more and save my blushes that I may participate at my instigation alone.

Verily, I shall provide a response should my perusal and deliberation require that the conversation has created sufficient tension in my mind as to necessitate a timely addition.

Warm mud&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; yeaaaay bring it on&#33;&#33;&#33; last one in is a rotten egg&#33;&#33;&#33;
Glad to have you aboard, Sara.

(How does one board warm mud?)

I&#39;ll need help maintaining the proper degree of &#39;unpronouncibility&#39; and prosaic density people have come to expect here.

This hovel has brightened considerably. :)

P.S. other suggestions for a title-

"FOR WHAT IT&#39;S WORTH"

"THE TALK EXCHANGE"

clocker
05-23-2003, 07:18 PM
I like The Bait Shop.

There&#39;s a certain ambivelance that appeals...

MagicNakor
05-23-2003, 07:36 PM
Are you feeling alright clocker? ;)

http://www.genericgifts.com/product_images/248x248/31245.jpg

:ninja:

clocker
05-23-2003, 09:03 PM
Kind of a nice homey charm there, MK.
Very inviting.
Lure &#39;em in, then GUT &#39;em...

j2k4
05-23-2003, 09:09 PM
Originally posted by clocker@23 May 2003 - 16:03


Lure &#39;em in, then GUT &#39;em...
Only those who present themselves as candidates for the food table. :D

clocker
05-24-2003, 12:30 PM
Originally posted by j2k4@23 May 2003 - 15:09

Only those who present themselves as candidates for the food table. :D
http://www.airhog.com/targets/images/fish_barrel.gif

I predict there will be no shortage... ;)

j2k4
05-27-2003, 04:24 PM
BUMP.

BUMP-BUMP.

BUMP-BUMP-BUMP.

Do we need more votes, or do we need to bribe someone?

BOTH&#33;&#33;??&#33;?&#33;?

Now is the time for all men (and ladies) good and true to come to the aid of their forum.... :D :D :D :D :D :D

clocker
05-27-2003, 05:05 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1985000/images/_1986206_bribe300.jpg

I&#39;m off to see Bender right now...

j2k4
05-27-2003, 05:20 PM
Originally posted by clocker@27 May 2003 - 12:05
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1985000/images/_1986206_bribe300.jpg

I&#39;m off to see Bender right now...
That&#39;s the ticket (Looks more like a whole fistful of them)

Give Mr. Bender a deadline-it&#39;s the least he can do for such a large wad of....uh...tickets.

Boy, Clocker-this creative stuff is tough&#33;<span style='color:red'></span>

:blink: :blink: :blink:

clocker
05-27-2003, 05:23 PM
Originally posted by j2k4@27 May 2003 - 11:20


Boy, Clocker-this creative stuff is tough&#33;[/color]

:blink: :blink: :blink:
Baby steps j2, baby steps... :P

clocker
05-27-2003, 05:26 PM
Originally posted by j2k4@27 May 2003 - 11:20

That&#39;s the ticket (Looks more like a whole fistful of them)


Actually, WTF am I thinking?

I really don&#39;t care about the name of this section that much&#33;

I&#39;m off to Brazil&#33;

ShockAndAwe^i^
05-27-2003, 09:49 PM
When are they going to do something?
And what is it they&#39;re going to do?
It&#39;s been a week since the poll started and we&#39;ve won.
Lets call it something plain like Debate/Politics.

I don&#39;t think it should be on the main board menu&#33;
Unless you want a bunch of riff raff in here spamming.
I think we should have it on a sub menu like now but not in the lounge.
Any Ideas?

clocker
05-28-2003, 01:06 AM
Originally posted by ShockAndAwe^i^@27 May 2003 - 15:49

Any Ideas?
What we need is a secret entrance&#33;
You could go into BookWorld and like pull on a certain volumn and this secret door would open&#33;
Cool&#33;

and then we could have a secret handshake and wear robes and have special rituals and basically be Masons&#33;

Oh boy&#33;

clocker
05-28-2003, 01:10 AM
http://www.owlnet.rice.edu/~reli205/scarlett_warren/entrance.jpg

j2k4
05-28-2003, 03:42 AM
Have we the resolve to build our own pyramid? :P

echidna
05-28-2003, 04:40 AM
i totally agree with changing the name of these threads
when i started i think marines were already eating army surplus hot-dogs in Baghdad
so the war isn&#39;t very useful as a title, i had been thinking that
&#39;international politics&#39; might be appropriate, [although &#39;anitnational politics&#39; would fit me better] now i&#39;m thinking
&#39;The United Notions&#39;
it would have been nice to get post count for participating here but i think that the post count works well as it is because the forum is about kazaa and therefore only kazaa/P2P threads should count [but on that note what about the guest section and a lot of why/help threads which should have been answered by reading FAQs]
and since my topic &#39;isn&#39;t filesharing a solcialist activity?&#39; was savaged after it&#39;s move to the lounge i have deep reluctance to try to discuss anything mildly serious there ever again
i don&#39;t like the &#39;physical&#39; name suggestions like the drawing room etc. as there is nothing physical here, also any suggestion of exclusivity should be avoided i feel, as the more views expressed the richer the idealogical compost we make here
i really hope that this will keep going, as it is one of the most entertaining and frank opportunities for us to speak our minds on topics which are rarely explored so personally these days
[i have had to turn off the option for people to send me email through the board &#39;cause all anyone used it for was to send me hate mail - that being the only downside i&#39;ve experienced, we should keep it going and build]

MagicNakor
05-28-2003, 04:46 AM
Originally posted by j2k4@28 May 2003 - 04:42
Have we the resolve to build our own pyramid? :P
Perhaps. But not the manpower. ;)

:ninja:

j2k4
05-28-2003, 04:53 AM
Originally posted by MagicNakor+27 May 2003 - 23:46--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (MagicNakor @ 27 May 2003 - 23:46)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--j2k4@28 May 2003 - 04:42
Have we the resolve to build our own pyramid? :P
Perhaps. But not the manpower. ;)

:ninja: [/b][/quote]
Not even a cyberpyramid? :huh:

echidna
05-28-2003, 05:23 AM
http://www.falseprofits.com/Pyramid.jpg here&#39;s one for &#036;1 :lol:

j2k4
05-28-2003, 05:51 AM
Originally posted by echidna@28 May 2003 - 00:23
http://www.falseprofits.com/Pyramid.jpg here&#39;s one for &#036;1 :lol:
Oh, God-I am sooooo tired.

Catch you out later, fellas.

&#39;Night.

:sleeping:

ShockAndAwe^i^
05-28-2003, 07:36 AM
Secret passage in bookworld :lol:
That is so funny,but I cant help loving it.
I think as a sub in bookworld is a great place.
Maybe have a sign up to get in or something.

j2k4
05-28-2003, 01:31 PM
Originally posted by ShockAndAwe^i^@28 May 2003 - 02:36
Secret passage in bookworld :lol:
That is so funny,but I cant help loving it.
I think as a sub in bookworld is a great place.
Maybe have a sign up to get in or something.
That type of "creativity for it&#39;s own sake" would probably be dubbed in some way discriminatory. :(

It would be kinda neat, though. ;)

ClubDiggler
05-30-2003, 02:50 AM
Current Affairs Section sounds good to me....

Good place to blow off some steam.... B)

sArA
05-30-2003, 02:54 AM
Well, this thread is 4 pages and growing....come on Mods....at least lets rename it&#33;

Perhaps we need a poll of suggested names.....leave it in the lounge if you like but lets have a new name.

j2k4
05-30-2003, 03:17 AM
Originally posted by ClubDiggler@29 May 2003 - 21:50
Current Affairs Section sounds good to me....

Good place to blow off some steam.... B)
Yo-Club&#33;

Good to have you here-expectations are high. ;)

[)arkredemption
05-30-2003, 11:50 AM
As has been said above a current affairs forum would be great but surely a far wider variety of issues, concepts and ideas can be discussed. Although there is plenty of information available for current affairs and they present interesting topics for discussion, I&#39;ve quietly watched many topics degenerate into flame wars (and I&#39;ve stayed out of them for that reason). Perhaps a wider range of discussion which people might be less prone to flaming with might be better as well as current affairs?

clocker
05-30-2003, 12:50 PM
A topic so bland as to not present at least the possibility of flaming wouldn&#39;t be worth the space in this section.
I think the tone in here has evened out of late and the stage is set for some productive debate.
A lively debate that doesn&#39;t occasionally degenerate into sheer hysteria would be boring.

Watch the British Parliament for my idea of a suitable role model.
They are so amusing and ,after all, my primary reason for being here is amusement. Any side benefits, such as education, cultural expansion, etc. are simply perks.
Unlike the Mods, I don&#39;t get a fabulous salary and the chance to be bribed ( yes, I know you will see that, Bender) just to be here.

j2k4
05-30-2003, 02:21 PM
Originally posted by clocker@30 May 2003 - 07:50
A topic so bland as to not present at least the possibility of flaming wouldn&#39;t be worth the space in this section.
I think the tone in here has evened out of late and the stage is set for some productive debate.
A lively debate that doesn&#39;t occasionally degenerate into sheer hysteria would be boring.

Watch the British Parliament for my idea of a suitable role model.
They are so amusing and ,after all, my primary reason for being here is amusement. Any side benefits, such as education, cultural expansion, etc. are simply perks.
Unlike the Mods, I don&#39;t get a fabulous salary and the chance to be bribed ( yes, I know you will see that, Bender) just to be here.
Just so.......

Rat Faced
05-30-2003, 02:29 PM
Originally posted by clocker@30 May 2003 - 12:50
A topic so bland as to not present at least the possibility of flaming wouldn&#39;t be worth the space in this section.
I think the tone in here has evened out of late and the stage is set for some productive debate.
A lively debate that doesn&#39;t occasionally degenerate into sheer hysteria would be boring.

Watch the British Parliament for my idea of a suitable role model.
They are so amusing and ,after all, my primary reason for being here is amusement. Any side benefits, such as education, cultural expansion, etc. are simply perks.
Unlike the Mods, I don&#39;t get a fabulous salary and the chance to be bribed ( yes, I know you will see that, Bender) just to be here.
Nursey School (Kindergarten?) would be a better role model.


I find it much more rewarding watching the children, than a bunch of incontinent, immoral, greedy, power hungry and senile people arguing.


Actually, thinking about it......maybe they just never left the Nursery...

clocker
05-30-2003, 02:40 PM
Yeah&#33;

And what&#39;s up with the wigs?

Rat Faced
05-30-2003, 02:44 PM
Originally posted by clocker@30 May 2003 - 14:40
Yeah&#33;

And what&#39;s up with the wigs?
Oh, you were talking about the House of Lords?

I was talking about the House of Commons.....


House of Commons &#39;runs&#39; the country..

House of Lords owns the country.... ;)

clocker
05-30-2003, 02:47 PM
I&#39;m not interested in the riffraff...

Take me to your Leader&#33;

[)arkredemption
05-30-2003, 06:47 PM
A topic so bland as to not present at least the possibility of flaming wouldn&#39;t be worth the space in this section.
I think the tone in here has evened out of late and the stage is set for some productive debate.
A lively debate that doesn&#39;t occasionally degenerate into sheer hysteria would be boring.

Watch the British Parliament for my idea of a suitable role model.
They are so amusing and ,after all, my primary reason for being here is amusement. Any side benefits, such as education, cultural expansion, etc. are simply perks.
Unlike the Mods, I don&#39;t get a fabulous salary and the chance to be bribed ( yes, I know you will see that, Bender) just to be here.

I didn&#39;t say it had to be impossible to flame in it. After all, people like to let off a little steam every now and then and I like a lively debate as much as the next person so long as people don&#39;t get too carried away (starting on personal insults etc.)...Just thought a wider range of topics might be considered.

As for the British parliament, i&#39;ve got to admit they are amusing...though I must say they should stop treating it as a game to score points against each other. Makes me wish they were&#39;nt the parliament running my country. Thank god our royalty have no real power though...then we really would be in trouble. :lol: (though thinking about it you could say we already are...anyway enough of my cynicism and pessimism) B)

crazy_billy_bats
05-30-2003, 06:49 PM
the royal family :lol:

a complete joke.

waste of time, money and space.

The Queen........... oh...please dont get me started.... :lol:

Rat Faced
05-30-2003, 06:56 PM
Lets hang those republicans.... :rolleyes:

OlderThanDirt
05-30-2003, 06:57 PM
Rat Faced wrote:

House of Commons &#39;runs&#39; the country..

House of Lords owns the country....

I&#39;ve always wondered how many of those "Knights of the Realm" are also "Knights of the Green Shield" ... or are otherwise heavily invested in British Petroleum.

clocker
05-30-2003, 08:58 PM
Originally posted by [)arkredemption@30 May 2003 - 12:47


I didn&#39;t say it had to be impossible to flame in it. After all, people like to let off a little steam every now and then and I like a lively debate as much as the next person so long as people don&#39;t get too carried away (starting on personal insults etc.)...Just thought a wider range of topics might be considered.

...anyway enough of my cynicism and pessimism)&nbsp; B)
By all means, feel free to expand our topical horizon in any direction you see fit.
Politics can get rather rigid and dry in a hurry.

personally, I&#39;m a big fan of cynicism and pessimism ( which is why, all evidence to the contrary, I was a fan of JPaul&#39;s. He just caved and ran too quickly for my taste, but there you go. If you&#39;re ghosting about JP, why not come back?) so don&#39;t put them away- polish and cultivate &#39;em. ;)

Rat Faced
05-30-2003, 09:34 PM
Originally posted by OlderThanDirt@30 May 2003 - 18:57

Rat Faced wrote:

House of Commons &#39;runs&#39; the country..

House of Lords owns the country....

I&#39;ve always wondered how many of those "Knights of the Realm" are also "Knights of the Green Shield" ... or are otherwise heavily invested in British Petroleum.
A Knight of the Realm hasnt enough rank to make it into the House of Lords (at least not that title on its own)

I THINK (Im not big on this) that BP was originally owned by the small investor, which means its probably now wholley owned by Private Pension Funds and other large corporations.

Not my favourite company, as they hired certain people to beat up and kill protestors in a third world country where they were operating and had a lot of political muscle (see, its not just US companies that are bastards ;) )


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