New Poll!

[BLACKSTATE]

What do you believe in?

1] God (Which)
2] You
3] Something else.. (what)
4] Nothing [Atheist]

(Do not say anything else.. only answer)..
I'm doing this..because i have to make statistics..for a newspaper.

I look forward to hearing from you..

[Illuminati]

3]

I believe that we all make our own ways & destinies through life, that any religion at all is used (and probably the intention of it in the first place) as nothing more than the symbolisation/characterisation of our feelings & consciences in all aspects of life. (God knows if a single religion fits into that, but I don't know of it).

Could fit into 2] or 4], but I'm not organising the poll - Work it out to be what you think BLACKSTATE

[jetje]

2) myself... it's the only thing i can control...


atheist... mmm doubt about that. there must be something? That's why i not say atheist.
rest is fairytales...

[ToraBoraDweller]

Could you give us more options?
God ..Gods ..halfgods ...Demons
Beside atheists there are also nihilists.
There also those who believe technology can solve everything.:geek:


For myself: now opt for I hope a healthy mix of 2 & 3. ;)

[Proper Bo]

4

I don't know why, I just don't believe in anything. :)

[Mivaro]

Somewhere between 3 and 4.. :lol:
I think i'm an atheist, but to be honest, the best answer is 3. ignorist, i really don't care :P

[olibomb]

I'd say 1

[The Knife Thrower]

I beleive in a god.

[RGX]

I beleive in a god, possibly chrisitian, some of the stuff that has happened so far in my life really cannot be explained, and by the mear fact that i am sitting here typing this suggests that this all wasnt some big accident...

[Jayhawk]

1 all the way

[imported_stg1123]

1
For there to be a concept of creation there has to be a concept of creator and the balls gotta stop somewhere so my vote goes with God because thats what he is called.

[Petri]

4.

[J'Pol]

http://homepages.pathfinder.gr/blackstate/Masonic8.gif

I assume from this you yourself believe in God.

[Spindulik]

4

Everyone seems to have an invisible guy they believe in. Which one is the right one? Greek Mythology?

[ToraBoraDweller]

(from trivia site :)


Only 68 of 200 Anglican priests polled could name all Ten Commandments, but half said they believed in space aliens. :D

[Tyke]

3) I believe that there are things that we do not yet understand.

This does not mean I feel the need to explain them by attributing these things to gods and idols. Neither do I feel the need to believe in a fable told to explain things which were/are not understood fully. (sorry any Xtians out there, but that's my personal view of the Bible. You may hold other views, but this is not intended to cause an argument, you are as free to post your view as I am mine). Rather, I believe that one day, some events currently classed as "acts of god" (or even as "paranormal"), because of no scientific explanation, will one day have a full and complete scientific explanation - we just haven't discovered everything there is to discover yet.

Remember this guy and how ridiculous it sounds now given the date??
"Everything that can be invented has been invented."
--Charles H. Duell, Commissioner, U.S. Office of Patents, 1899.

Some people say the same thing about science - as if it were unthinkable that any new discoveries should ever be made

[Guillaume]

2) I'm the only one to thank or blame for what happens to me. Then, if after I die, I get to see God or the Devil, I'll be the one to blame for getting it all wrong and spending eternity with a red hot poker up my ass in Hell! :lol:

[Pitbul]

Originally posted by Spindulik@21 May 2003 - 10:52
4

Everyone seems to have an invisible guy they believe in. Which one is the right one? Greek Mythology?
fuck u bitch. if u dont know what ur talking about then dont try and touch on a subject u have no knowledge on.you fuckin piece of shit.

oh and theres is life after death so 1 for me

[DarthInsinuate]

a little of 3, a bit of 2, and some of 4

i believe there is something that binds us together and there is a balance (like the Force), but it doesn't govern what we do (like the force), but then again if there is a force that doesn't govern our actions what does it do?

[Spicker]

mostly 1...and sum 2...lol cnat make up me mind...lol

[Props022]

I believe that there is a higher being, though, I don't have the perception quite yet, to figure out what "it" is....

[kAb]

4]


but maybe we are just an illusion in gods mind :huh:

[BLACKSTATE]

Ok.. now the REUSLTS:

(From THIS and from OTHER forums.. with 5000+ Rpls.. )

1] God (Which) >>>---> 2%
2] You >>>---> 18%
3] Something else.. (what) >>>---> 10%
4] Nothing [Atheist] >>>---> 70%

Keep your thoughts as your mind is programmed to. B)

[Illuminati]

Okay, now that we've done our part, now it's time to do your part.

We answered as accurately (at least most of us did AFAIK) as we could, now it's time to come clean - Give us the full details of the poll, and what it's gonna be used for. Also, which newspaper is it for? (if you wouldn't mind clearing any of that up :))

[Z]

Originally posted by BLACKSTATE@22 May 2003 - 17:03
Ok.. now the REUSLTS:

(From THIS and from OTHER forums.. with 5000+ Rpls.. )

1] God (Which) >>>---> 2%
2] You >>>---> 18%
3] Something else.. (what) >>>---> 10%
4] Nothing [Atheist] >>>---> 70%

Keep your thoughts as your mind is programmed to. B)
i do not believe in god.

but i am amazed that so many ppl share my view. i would think most ppl would believe in it. but maybe these computer ppl...ahh...

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by Z+23 May 2003 - 06:13--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Z @ 23 May 2003 - 06:13)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--BLACKSTATE@22 May 2003 - 17:03
Ok.. now the REUSLTS:

(From THIS and from OTHER forums.. with 5000+ Rpls.. )

1] God (Which) >>>---&#62; 2%
2] You >>>---&#62; 18%
3] Something else.. (what) >>>---&#62; 10%
4] Nothing [Atheist] >>>---&#62; 70%

Keep your thoughts as your mind is programmed to.&nbsp; B)
i do not believe in god.

but i am amazed that so many ppl share my view. i would think most ppl would believe in it. but maybe these computer ppl...ahh... [/b][/quote]
As you imply the demographic is rather limited.

[ToraBoraDweller]

So what newspaper was it for ?(Greek?)

(btw both your weblinks don&#39;t work(for me))

Find results a bit different from what I expected.thought 1 & 3 would score more. :o

[BLACKSTATE]

Yes, it&#39;s for a Greek NP. B)

[cooolway]

I believe in god all the way.

[Lamsey]

Somewhere between 3 and 4..&nbsp;
I think i&#39;m an atheist, but to be honest, the best answer is 3. ignorist, i really don&#39;t care&nbsp;
In that case you are the same as me - you are what is called an Agnostic.

For reference:
- An athiest is a really active non-believer who believes that no-one should believe in a God.
- An agnostic doesn&#39;t see any reason to believe in a God, but doesn&#39;t have a problem with others doing so.

You should try to learn this difference - calling an agnostic an athiest would be like calling a Catholic a Protestant (although it won&#39;t provoke such a violent response if you miscategorise a Northern Irish Agnostic&#33;).

[Mivaro]

Originally posted by Lamsey@23 May 2003 - 22:36
In that case you are the same as me - you are what is called an Agnostic.

For reference:
- An athiest is a really active non-believer who believes that no-one should believe in a God.
- An agnostic doesn&#39;t see any reason to believe in a God, but doesn&#39;t have a problem with others doing so.
Agnostic, that&#39;s the word i was looking for&#33;
Only one problem, i don&#39;t fit in both catagories, i activly don&#39;t believe in a god, although i accept
others do (as long they don&#39;t try to convince me :D ) For me religion is a way to deal with insecurity about the meaning of life and fear of dying .
Why do people so desperately want a reason for all things....

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by Lamsey@23 May 2003 - 22:36

Somewhere between 3 and 4..
I think i&#39;m an atheist, but to be honest, the best answer is 3. ignorist, i really don&#39;t care
In that case you are the same as me - you are what is called an Agnostic.

For reference:
- An athiest is a really active non-believer who believes that no-one should believe in a God.
- An agnostic doesn&#39;t see any reason to believe in a God, but doesn&#39;t have a problem with others doing so.

You should try to learn this difference - calling an agnostic an athiest would be like calling a Catholic a Protestant (although it won&#39;t provoke such a violent response if you miscategorise a Northern Irish Agnostic&#33;).
Surely an Atheist is someone who is positive that there is no God

Whereas an Agnostic is someone who does not believe in a God, because they have not seen it proven.

Their view of what others should believe is irrelevant.

Obviously I over simplify, but I find it makes life easier.

[Lamsey]

You are a true agnostic - they can actively &#39;not believe&#39; (like me); they difference is their attitude to others. :P

My response to the question "What is the meaning of life?" is "Make your own reason and stick to it."

My reason is "Live a happy life and leave the world a better place than you found it."

[J'Pol]

The book of words describes an Agnostic as :

a person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (as God) is unknown and prob. unknowable; broadly : one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god

It describes Atheist as :

one who denies the existence of God

If you are sure God does not exist you are an Atheist.

For the record, there is no doubt in my mind that he does.

[Mivaro]

Originally posted by Lamsey@23 May 2003 - 22:53
You are a true agnostic - they can actively &#39;not believe&#39; (like me); they difference is their attitude to others.

My response to the question "What is the meaning of life?" is "Make your own reason and stick to it."

My reason is "Live a happy life and leave the world a better place than you found it."
I can only agree.. :rolleyes:
Maybe except for the reason, i don&#39;t need a reason to live, it&#39;s enough that i do, better make the best of it then :D

[Lamsey]

I can only agree..&nbsp;
Maybe except for the reason, i don&#39;t need a reason to live, it&#39;s enough that i do, better make the best of it then&nbsp;
Yeah... I suppose my answer is more like a life philosophy than a reason to live.

Oh well - it still makes for a good smart-arsed answer... :D

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by JPaul@23 May 2003 - 22:57
The book of words describes an Agnostic as :

a person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (as God) is unknown and prob. unknowable; broadly : one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god

It describes Atheist as :

one who denies the existence of God

If you are sure God does not exist you are an Atheist.

For the record, there is no doubt in my mind that he does.
Don&#39;t want to descend to sophistry (if that&#39;s the word) but it strikes me you are an Atheist Lamsey.

Doesn&#39;t make you a bad person. Just wrong.

[Lamsey]

I have seen and heard it defined otherwise. Maybe I am consulting the wrong Book of Words? Will check Mum&#39;s big dictionary when I get home.

I guess Mivaro and I may be grey areas. I don&#39;t believe there is a God but I don&#39;t rule it out entirely - ie. my attitude is "I don&#39;t think there&#39;s a god" as opposed to "there isn&#39;t one.".



Doesn&#39;t make you a bad person. Just wrong.
Now that is a good smart-arsed answer&#33;

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by Lamsey@23 May 2003 - 23:10
I have seen and heard it defined otherwise. Maybe I am consulting the wrong Book of Words? Will check Mum&#39;s big dictionary when I get home.

I guess Mivaro and I may be grey areas. I don&#39;t believe there is a God but I don&#39;t rule it out entirely - ie. my attitude is "I don&#39;t think there&#39;s a god" as opposed to "there isn&#39;t one.".



Doesn&#39;t make you a bad person. Just wrong.
Now that is a good smart-arsed answer&#33;
Given both of your last posts

Mivaro is an Atheist.

You are an Agnostic.

Incidentally I use

http://www.britannica.com/

for reference purposes.

[Buffalo]

we are not that religous ;) , but there is one thing that always comes to mind, As we can&#39;t stand tyranny of the week.
And yes it was in a film&#33;&#33;&#33; ;)
Ezekiel 25 : 17 "The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men.
Blessid is he who in the name of charity and good will sheppards the week through the valley of darkness, For he is truley his brothers keeper and the finder of lost children.
And i will strike down upon thee with great vengence and furious anger, those who atempt to poison and destroy my brothers, AND YOU WILL KNOW MY NAME IS THE LORD&#33; WHEN I LAY MY VENGENCE UPON THEE&#33;"

As Keen Surfers of the sea we are the "Sons of Neptune", We believe in the moment.

Barry Buffalo & Jonno B)

[Lamsey]

@Jpaul Fair enough - better than carrying the Encyclopaedia Britannica around with you&#33;

@Celebs - I never liked Tarantino much myself...

[Buffalo]

Originally posted by Lamsey@23 May 2003 - 22:21
@Jpaul Fair enough - better than carrying the Encyclopaedia Britannica around with you&#33;

@Celebs - I never liked Tarantino much myself...
QT Used it in pulp fiction, but it is a real verse from some book.
This book&#39;s first page read
To my darling candy, all chareters portrayed within these pages are fictitous and any similarties to real persons "living or dead" is purley coincidental
Barry Buffalo & Jonno B)

[WeeMouse]

I beeive that there is a superior being; I have witnessed his miracles and have seen many images of him everywhere.

And lo, that superior being&#39;s name is Henrik Larsson&#33;

:lol:

[Jack The Ripper]

3

I believe death is the ultimate good, unless used against me then it&#39;s the ultimate evil.

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by WeeMouse@23 May 2003 - 23:40
I beeive that there is a superior being; I have witnessed his miracles and have seen many images of him everywhere.

And lo, that superior being&#39;s name is Henrik Larsson&#33;

:lol:
LOL

As ever the voice of reason from my wee pal.

[WeeMouse]

:D

I&#39;m truly honoured, JPaul&#33; :)

But i just speak the truth&#33; Every Sunday thousands of worshippers sing his praises&#33;

:P

[Mivaro]

Originally posted by WeeMouse@23 May 2003 - 23:40
I beeive that there is a superior being; I have witnessed his miracles and have seen many images of him everywhere.

And lo, that superior being&#39;s name is Henrik Larsson&#33;

:lol:
Not that i want to start a new religious war, but who is Henrik Larsson??

[WeeMouse]

:blink:

He is God.

:D

(He&#39;s Glasgow celtic FC&#39;s top striker and generally a great player and a great guy&#33;)

[Mivaro]

Originally posted by WeeMouse@24 May 2003 - 00:22
:blink:

He is God.

:D

(He&#39;s Glasgow celtic FC&#39;s top striker and generally a great player and a great guy&#33;)
I&#39;m guessing this is about football/soccer..... In this case i&#39;m certainly an atheist. I don&#39;t believe in this game and i think nobody should&#33; :lol: :D

[WeeMouse]

It&#39;s Fitbaw&#33; :lol:

I&#39;m a Celtic worshipper - Celtic is life, the rest is just details&#33;

It&#39;s a scottish thing... :P

[Buffalo]

Originally posted by Mivaro+23 May 2003 - 23:26--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mivaro @ 23 May 2003 - 23:26)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--WeeMouse@24 May 2003 - 00:22
:blink:

He is God.

:D

(He&#39;s Glasgow celtic FC&#39;s top striker and generally a great player and a great guy&#33;)
I&#39;m guessing this is about football/soccer..... In this case i&#39;m certainly an atheist. I don&#39;t believe in this game and i think nobody should&#33; :lol: :D [/b][/quote]
Why ?, You have your beliefs, we have ours.

I don&#39;t believe in this game and i think nobody should
NO no NO, That&#39;s your belief.

[J'Pol]

Henrik is the supreme player who alone exists of himself

and is infinite in all his goals.



That may be blasphemous, I hope not.

[WeeMouse]

Definately not&#33;

:D

[tyberius]

Originally posted by kAb@22 May 2003 - 01:53
4]


but maybe we are just an illusion in gods mind :huh:
No, we are all just plugged into the Matrix.

[tyberius]

Put me down for 4.

[BLACKSTATE]

Mivaro
.. Yeah my friend.. I see that you have a good ideology about all this..
Nice.. keep going.. B)
C U

[Petri]

Originally posted by JPaul@24 May 2003 - 00:53
Surely an Atheist is someone who is positive that there is no God
No, not exactly. There are two types of atheism - this is "explicit" atheism...


Whereas an Agnostic is someone who does not believe in a God, because they have not seen it proven.
... and this is "implicit" atheism.


Suggested reading: Atheism FAQs - What is Atheism? (http://atheism.about.com/library/FAQs/ath/blathd_what.htm)

[WeeMouse]

Lamsey says that&#39;s kinda similar to what he&#39;s been told.

I think it&#39;s stoopid arguing over silly words&#33;