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Patriot foreve
01-27-2007, 02:09 PM
hi

For continous improvements of the main sticky thread ,Me and Buggy decided to see your opinions and suggestions in order to make the thread more helpful to everyone in here

so we would like you guys to post your opinions and suggestions about the thread sothat we can make it better ,here is some questions that came to my mind but u can always suggest anything and it will be much appreciated :)

What do u think of the thread now and what does it need?

Do u think we should add more trackers?

Do u think we should remove some?

Do u think that the reviews is good or should we add more information?

Do u think that some trackers are over-rated and some is under-rated?

what's your personal Suggestions for improving the thread?

Feel Free To post whatever your thoughts are and we will be very glad to work on the thread to improve it

tctosson
01-27-2007, 02:16 PM
add more trackers

j0ker
01-27-2007, 02:16 PM
umm the "etc" thing is really annoying :)
beside that, it's really great thread.

but usually not showing how good the tracker is (lame sites ranked 4, good sites ranked 2 sometimes)

keep up the great work.

roccofor
01-27-2007, 02:16 PM
I think you should have 2 topic.
One is closed and only posted by you,have lots of tracker and details.
One is open to post,user post there their opinions about sites.

xandrew
01-27-2007, 02:21 PM
this is gonna be really good thread..

one thing slipped my mind now, and that is that there should be SAME INFO ( not yelling =) ) on every tracker review ...
for example, pisexy review contains only user classes info, while fsc or any other tracker contains a lot of different informations ...

reviews should contain same info ...

contain contain contain lalala lot of containing




p.s. when'll ftn come back :cry

omarino
01-27-2007, 02:25 PM
put some screen shot so we can see the number of seedrs-torrents-...

ptp5352
01-27-2007, 02:29 PM
its a great thread, i check it all the time. I think you could improve it though by adding some more trackers and updating the current levels of the existing trackers. Eg, i think iPlay should go down since it has had open sign ups for quite a while. And i think The Place should be a lot higher since it seems to be closed coompletely now.

walczanin
01-27-2007, 02:49 PM
1. tauritracker is overrated
2. hdbits should be bit higher
3. SCC bit higher too
4. rmvb should be at the list

btw. maybe u should provide a list of the trackers, group it in levels 1-5 (like now),
and give us a possibility to vote on every single one, so that way this rank would be updated quite often.......

RedVision
01-27-2007, 02:50 PM
Do u think we should add more trackers?
yep' i think you should add tracker in level 1-3...
Do u think we should remove some?
no all the site that in the list are deserve their place.
Do u think that some trackers are over-rated and some is under-rated?
of course...i think **-* is over rated...the site in his content speed and pre times is pretty good but the rarity is the reason why the site is in 5 level.
it's should be in level 4-4.5 no more than that.
i think FTN should be at 5...it's my opinion and there are much ppl who think i am wrong.
FTN is better in his speed pre times and content than **-* and to get an invite at FTN is hard now becuase you need to upload 200 GB and then talk to the staff and then you will get an invite.
i think FTN should be at level 5 :).
i hope i helped.:)

Alco23
01-27-2007, 02:50 PM
What do people value most?
Speed/content/specialisation/rarity/staff/special offers/pre time or a mix?

gamer4eva
01-27-2007, 02:58 PM
I think the more trackers listed the better. FTN should defiantely move up to level 5. U*** is hard to get yes but is it really that good? A lot of people have felt sad after all the effort they put into getting U*** for it all to go to waste.

Green Goblin
01-27-2007, 03:02 PM
I think the more trackers listed the better. FTN should defiantely move up to level 5. U*** is hard to get yes but is it really that good? A lot of people have felt sad after all the effort they put into getting U*** for it all to go to waste.

I agree more sites the better i hear of new ones every day, FTN should go up but wait till i have one:D, im hoping this will be my no.1:D

walczanin
01-27-2007, 03:07 PM
yeah

level 5: FTN , SCT
level 4.5: EXIGO, RABBIT, FB, RP, REVOLT, UK-T
level 4: SWEDVDR, WB, NB, THORS
level 3.5: TT, PT, KG, HDBITS, FL, SB, RMVBUSTERS
level 3: SCC, TL(if the rank wouldnt focus only at rarity), IPLAY, RSR, PISEXY, BIMTMETV, CZONE, REVTT, TORRENTBITS

Thats just my idea of top 10-15 trackers,,,,,,,,,

j0ker
01-27-2007, 03:08 PM
the thread is not valuing tracker, just rarity. that's a problem

walczanin
01-27-2007, 03:09 PM
so lets not focus only at rarity, lets make it more complex......

xandrew
01-27-2007, 03:09 PM
what invites are worth = value

p3st
01-27-2007, 03:13 PM
the thread is great but it could use a little improvement

- add more trackers to each lvl (1 to 5);
- for each tracker listed there should be an review written so that everyone can get all the info that they need;
- reviews are ok in my opinion;
- and i have an idea about the tracker rating...
since there are a lot of trackers that are over-rated/under-rated why don`t u use a formula to calculate the rating:
the formula is : content (rating from 1 to 5) + speed (rating) + rarity (rating) + pre times (rating) / 4...
this way i think that the rating would be much more accurate because now the rating is based more on the rarity of the tracker an less on content and speed ...
ex: rSR (which i think it`s under-rated) : content+speed+rarity+pre/4 = 3.5+3.5+5+3.5/4 = 3.875
U*** (over-rated) : 4+4+5+3.5/4 = 4.125
i`m not saying that rSR is as good as U*** but the overall rating will be based not only on rarity or content, but on all the four characteristics :)
i don`t know if u like my idea, but i thought maybe it`s helpful

walczanin
01-27-2007, 03:16 PM
actually that formula would be quite fair i guess......

Alco23
01-27-2007, 03:19 PM
I think you may be onto something p3st... Let's continue along those lines.

Green Goblin
01-27-2007, 03:20 PM
the problem is not everyone has the same speeds when it comes to uploading and downloading.
I will never ask for sct as i dont think i could keep a good ratio there, so sct is not worth much to me.
I think my no1 will be FTN, atm it is FSC.
so maybe an idea is to say what you need, to get the maximum out of a site, i keep seeing ppl wanting sct cause its no1, i think they wouldnt last a month if they got in there.
no point seeding at 50kbs if everybody else is finished d/l in 5 minutes.

p3st
01-27-2007, 03:20 PM
thx man ... it`s not fair to rate a tracker only upon it`s rarity ...
imo tl is one of the best and it`s rated only 2...

walczanin
01-27-2007, 03:25 PM
exactly, TL should be 3 - 3.5

Green Goblin
01-27-2007, 03:26 PM
thx man ... it`s not fair to rate a tracker only upon it`s rarity ...
imo tl is one of the best and it`s rated only 2...
agreed i will max my speed here everytime, and they get pretty much everything everybody else does.

jaffrey
01-27-2007, 03:29 PM
i second to that, tl is really under-rated. its one of the best. pre-times and releases are a lil low & slow compared to sct & ftn, thats it, otherwise its very good !

p3st
01-27-2007, 03:32 PM
so let`s say that content + speed + rarity + pre / 4 for tl is like this: 4.5 + 4 + 3 + 3 / 4 = 3.625 (which is closer to it`s true rating) :)

Shadowfire
01-27-2007, 03:35 PM
The whole point of the what invites are worth thread is to determine what the trackers' values are in trades. TL is worth nothing in trades because it's so easily obtained. Corey is doing another thread on what the trackers themselves are worth; you should check that out instead.

Green Goblin
01-27-2007, 03:35 PM
so let`s say that content + speed + rarity + pre / 4 for tl is like this: 4.5 + 4 + 3 + 3 / 4 = 3.625 (which is closer to it`s true rating) :)

sounds good but we need to stop giving them away:D

p3st
01-27-2007, 03:43 PM
@shadowfire

i don`t agree ; why is let`s say ftwr more valuable than tl???
it dosen`t have more peers,users,torrents...so why? because it`s a lot rarer...
i would never trade my tl account for ANY lvl 4-4.5 tracker (not even for ftn...) :)

LorD.MeXiCaN
01-27-2007, 03:44 PM
RvTT, higher :D, one of the BesT

Green Goblin
01-27-2007, 03:46 PM
should free leech play a part in rating?

donations for upload credit?

j0ker
01-27-2007, 03:48 PM
no i don't think so.

there should to 2 threads... one is only rarity, and one is with the thing we're talking about now.

cause if there will be only one... ppl will give FTWR (for example) for TL... and it's not fair.

p3st
01-27-2007, 03:50 PM
@green goblin

i don`t think so freelech/donations for credit
we should stick to the four characteristics

Green Goblin
01-27-2007, 03:51 PM
but what is the best tracker for tv.
best for movies
games, and so on too hard to say this tracker is no1, all comes down to what you want, looking for.

Shadowfire
01-27-2007, 03:53 PM
@shadowfire

i don`t agree ; why is let`s say ftwr more valuable than tl???
it dosen`t have more peers,users,torrents...so why? because it`s a lot rarer...
i would never trade my tl account for ANY lvl 4-4.5 tracker (not even for ftn...) :)

Rarity is the whole point of that thread. People give TL away for free. Can your get ftwr for free right now? Not unless it's an outlier.

How good a tracker really is is another story for another thread (like Corey's), or for the tracker reviews. In fact in reviewing, I don't even think you should be rating a thread. It should be more like telling a lot about the tracker and letting the individual decide.

p3st
01-27-2007, 03:54 PM
@3333 why not?
pls explain...
why dosen`t tl ban inv users for trading like ftwr did?
tell u why because they are more professional and care a lot more about their users...
well...at least that`s my opinion, i don`t want to offend anyone :)

p3st
01-27-2007, 04:00 PM
@shadowfire

ok let`s say that i agree but not entirely
the fact is that i don`t like ppl who trade tackers just for sport and never use them...

Shadowfire
01-27-2007, 04:02 PM
That's true, but that's beside the point.

In a way, banning people for invite trading is caring about users in the staff's eyes. It's being more strict about who actually gets let into the tracker. 3333's right; the two-thread thing we have right now is perfectly fine. I might agree with some of the individual rankings in the WIAW thread, but the overall concept is ok.

j0ker
01-27-2007, 04:06 PM
@3333 why not?
pls explain...
why dosen`t tl ban inv users for trading like ftwr did?
tell u why because they are more professional and care a lot more about their users...
well...at least that`s my opinion, i don`t want to offend anyone :)

it's not fair just because getting TL is easier than FTWR.

i think Corey's thread should be the way you suggest, and this thread should stay like this, but with a little more attention to the content and speed (not too much).

i mean, there are many 4-4.5 trackers that wort sh*t. :)

p3st
01-27-2007, 04:06 PM
@shadowfire

true, but rarity dosen`t always mean quality

crossfade
01-27-2007, 04:10 PM
@shadowfire

true, but rarity dosen`t always mean quality

but that's what Corey's tread is for

j0ker
01-27-2007, 04:11 PM
@shadowfire

true, but rarity dosen`t always mean quality

maybe there should be a review for each tracker, with a little bit more info, comparing to other sites also (like "TL is better in content from this site")

cuz IMO the reviews ATM don't help much.

slau
01-27-2007, 04:12 PM
Look for example torrentbits.ro, is torrentbits.ro better then TL, TB, (..)?
The awnser is no, it isnt, not even close, but the different is that trorrentbits.ro is 3.5 and tl is 2, and why is that? Because it was signups closed till 2015... Does that make him better? I guess it does... :(

Green Goblin
01-27-2007, 04:14 PM
Look for example torrentbits.ro, is torrentbits.ro better then TL, TB, (..)?
The awnser is no, it isnt, not even close, but the different is that trorrentbits.ro is 3.5 and tl is 2, and why is that? Because it was signups closed till 2015... Does that make him better? I guess it does... :(

well thats just stupid it should be removed

j0ker
01-27-2007, 04:17 PM
Look for example torrentbits.ro, is torrentbits.ro better then TL, TB, (..)?
The awnser is no, it isnt, not even close, but the different is that torrentbits.ro is 3.5 and tl is 2, and why is that? Because it was signups closed till 2015... Does that make him better? I guess it does... :(

yeah but when trading you look for rarity rather than quality.
that's why there should be 2 different threads (but again, even on the worth trade... quality should be considered a little).

for example (i only heard that, really don't know), i understood that revolt is not a good site at all. but it's a 4 level tracker, ppl might trade their level 4 and get disappointed.

Shadowfire
01-27-2007, 04:22 PM
3333 is getting the point. The rest of you aren't.

When you are trading, you consider how hard it is to get an invite to the site you want. Quality at this point is not a factor at all.

StevenVD
01-27-2007, 04:36 PM
I think we need an equal post with ranks etc but then only with how good the tracker is and not how hard it is to get in.

I know corey is making a topic with the trackers and what content they have etc but it's not really a rate of how good the sites are :)

j0ker
01-27-2007, 04:43 PM
maybe after we got the 2 threads..

in each thread after the name there will be the other thread's rating.

for example on the worth trade:

Level 2:...TL (4)

it's level 2 on the worth, and 4 on quality.

Green Goblin
01-27-2007, 04:48 PM
maybe after we got the 2 threads..

in each thread after the name there will be the other thread's rating.

for example on the worth trade:

Level 2:...TL (4)

it's level 2 on the worth, and 4 on quality.

can we call that a 6 out of 10???

simple i think

j0ker
01-27-2007, 04:51 PM
maybe after we got the 2 threads..

in each thread after the name there will be the other thread's rating.

for example on the worth trade:

Level 2:...TL (4)

it's level 2 on the worth, and 4 on quality.

can we call that a 6 out of 10???

simple i think

don't think so
cuz something can be 5 on quality, and 1 on rarity...

and then 4 rarity can look like 5 quality... you can't know.

or maybe like this "TL 6 (2,4)"

but it will look complicated

asafisraeli123
01-27-2007, 04:53 PM
I have the best idea how to improve it :):)
you should do a poll on every site and every member who will get in can vote his opinion...

:):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):)

gino77
01-27-2007, 04:54 PM
I Think that if there are some screen shots so we can see the trackers from inside, there aren't enough information about trackers. so many people wants to know more information about the trackers links. etc...

slau
01-27-2007, 05:04 PM
I Think that if there are some screen shots so we can see the trackers from inside, there aren't enough information about trackers. so many people wants to know more information about the trackers links. etc...
QFT

Chi Pheo
01-27-2007, 05:08 PM
The current thread is fine I think, you can add more trackers base on their rarity. I would think we should have another thread rated by the contents of the trackers so that people not interested in trading will know what the are looking for.

I saw some people said some trackers in current thread are overrated, I dont think so. This is the thread for rarest trackers why people complain about their contents when they get in ( ex. TB, U*** ) come on guys!

kavalchuk17
01-27-2007, 05:10 PM
put some screen shot so we can see the number of seedrs-torrents-...

That would be a little risky i think and im sure the trackers wouldnt want that. as a precaution i wouldnt do that.

kavalchuk17
01-27-2007, 05:14 PM
the thread is great but it could use a little improvement

- add more trackers to each lvl (1 to 5);
- for each tracker listed there should be an review written so that everyone can get all the info that they need;
- reviews are ok in my opinion;
- and i have an idea about the tracker rating...
since there are a lot of trackers that are over-rated/under-rated why don`t u use a formula to calculate the rating:
the formula is : content (rating from 1 to 5) + speed (rating) + rarity (rating) + pre times (rating) / 4...
this way i think that the rating would be much more accurate because now the rating is based more on the rarity of the tracker an less on content and speed ...
ex: rSR (which i think it`s under-rated) : content+speed+rarity+pre/4 = 3.5+3.5+5+3.5/4 = 3.875
U*** (over-rated) : 4+4+5+3.5/4 = 4.125
i`m not saying that rSR is as good as U*** but the overall rating will be based not only on rarity or content, but on all the four characteristics :)
i don`t know if u like my idea, but i thought maybe it`s helpful

Sound good but you would have to add more variables. rSR is hard to seed back on, that lowers its value a little. YOu would also have to calculate rarity into it more.

kavalchuk17
01-27-2007, 05:16 PM
i second to that, tl is really under-rated. its one of the best. pre-times and releases are a lil low & slow compared to sct & ftn, thats it, otherwise its very good !

do you have ScT and FTN? and download speed on new releases is another story.


e: Sorry about the tripple post. i just went through the whole thread. :rolleyes:

SIMRACK
01-27-2007, 05:23 PM
The current thread is fine I think, you can add more trackers base on their rarity. I would think we should have another thread rated by the contents of the trackers so that people not interested in trading will know what the are looking for.

I saw some people said some trackers in current thread are overrated, I dont think so. This is the thread for rarest trackers why people complain about their contents when they get in ( ex. TB, U*** ) come on guys!


i support ur idea..definitely there should be another thread rated by the contents of trackers an should be made sticky:)

0Ri0N
01-27-2007, 05:46 PM
The current thread is fine for me too. Rarity is the main point of this thread. If you want to know which best content/Pre-times/Speeds trackers search for Corey's thread, I propose make it sticky.

2 notes:
I think its time to put FTN on level 5.
You should add SnowTigers to level 3.5.

Keep up the good work dudes. :)

sert
01-27-2007, 06:06 PM
Also as said before you definitely have to mention donations:

1) sites that provide 3 months free leech with every donation

2) sites that give you 5 GB every 5 bucks or so

3) sites that just give you a star next to your name and HAVE IN THEIR FRONT PAGE MONTHLY EXPENSES AND TOTAL AMOUNT RECEIVED THIS MONTH

Patriot foreve
01-28-2007, 07:33 PM
i was really pleased with all the comments and suggestions made in that thread and i am going to comment on the ideas that i have seen in that thread in order to improve the current list

let's start


add more trackers

i have seen alot of requests about that so we will add some more trackers soon but due to the large numbers of available trackers on the web so we are going to add the trackers that is requested here in FST

also u can suggest all the new trackers that u may like to add to the thread and every member can post his opinion about having these trackers or not


put some screen shot so we can see the number of seedrs-torrents-...

some trackers may have problems regarding that but we may be willing to post screenshots to trackers that doesn't have problems about that as it may help alittle to figure the Trackers that someone might need



since there are a lot of trackers that are over-rated/under-rated why don`t u use a formula to calculate the rating:
the formula is : content (rating from 1 to 5) + speed (rating) + rarity (rating) + pre times (rating) / 4...
this way i think that the rating would be much more accurate because now the rating is based more on the rarity of the tracker an less on content and speed ...


well,it's kinda good but it's kinda difficult to make because there is 0-day trackers,music trackers,movies trackers so how can we rate the content of each one also there are alot of trackers which haven't pre-time like oink,KG,...
also alot of Trackers which are given for free will be high in the sky like TL for example


The whole point of the what invites are worth thread is to determine what the trackers' values are in trades. TL is worth nothing in trades because it's so easily obtained. Corey is doing another thread on what the trackers themselves are worth; you should check that out instead.

i think so, Corey's Thread will help about the trackers content,pre times and so also the Current Reviews in The Sticky thread have rankings for pre times,content,rarity and speed and for those who hasn't we encourage the great members who helped us and posts reviews about some trackers to add this information to their reviews as it will help



cuz IMO the reviews ATM don't help much.

can u plz inform us of the defects in the reviews that u don't like sothat we can fix them


I have the best idea how to improve it :):)
you should do a poll on every site and every member who will get in can vote his opinion...

if we did that then we need more than 50 threads with polls to achieve that also what happen if atracker open signups like iplay which opened acouple of days ago

i think the current system regarding that which enables any member to list his current ranking for trackers and those who came after can comment on his suggestion to reach the best rankings


Also as said before you definitely have to mention donations


well,i don't think most members are keen on knowing the donation information but if alot of members want that in the reviews then we will work on that

i think most of u consider the rarity as the first option for ranking the thread ,we will take care more of the content of the trackers and we will work out to improve the current reviews with any information u need

i think that by combining the rarity and checking the reviews for the other rankings like content,speed,pre-times will help to figure out exactly what trackers every one will need

About the Trackers that may be over-rated or under-rated :u can post in the sticky thread about your suggestion of the ranking of acertain tracker and members can comment on that and we will work on to make each tracker in it's correct postition

i will make another thread also soon for u guys to choose the trackers that u would like to add to the thread and the trackers which get high comments will be added to the list

I hope i see more of your comments and suggestions to improve the thread :)

asafisraeli123
01-28-2007, 08:01 PM
not 50 threads with polls
just do it in the first page.
or second.
it will be great.

j0ker
01-28-2007, 08:01 PM
what about the thing i said?
near every tracker, write also the rating of the other thread

as I said before..
Level 2: ...TL (4)....
level 2 on rarity, 4 on overall (content pre times speeds whatever).

p3st
01-28-2007, 08:18 PM
good idea 3333

taba
01-28-2007, 10:31 PM
good idea 3333

+1

EFS
01-29-2007, 01:01 AM
what about the thing i said?
near every tracker, write also the rating of the other thread

as I said before..
Level 2: ...TL (4)....
level 2 on rarity, 4 on overall (content pre times speeds whatever).
Yes TL must go up 2 level , TL is the best of many many trackers for 0day and good fast
You should put TL in the considering :yup::yup::yup::yup::yup::yup::yup::yup:

RealitY
01-29-2007, 05:12 AM
The whole point of the what invites are worth thread is to determine what the trackers' values are in trades. TL is worth nothing in trades because it's so easily obtained. Corey is doing another thread on what the trackers themselves are worth; you should check that out instead.
Think the thread Corey is working on will balance out most all concerns with the current thread. Then members can read through both pins and get a complete picture. Hope that thread is done soon or at least the bulk of it. Additionally both threads should have links to each other.


that's why there should be 2 different threads (but again, even on the worth trade... quality should be considered a little).
It might be possible in situations where a trackers rarity is far from its worth it could be adjusted. Though I think in these situations the tracker shouldnt even be on the list since theres no point of a rare tracker with no worth even being listed...

Patriot foreve
01-29-2007, 04:39 PM
what about the thing i said?
near every tracker, write also the rating of the other thread

as I said before..
Level 2: ...TL (4)....
level 2 on rarity, 4 on overall (content pre times speeds whatever).

That's agreat idea and i like it alot as it will gives anyone choices to see the value of each tracker

I will work on doing that and adding the overall content between () and for those special trackers which have acertain content only like KG,oink,TT and others i would put them in Colored Brackets () sothat everyone can recognize that this tracker is not an ordinary 0-day tracker but it's atracker that has acertain category

The reviews available also in the thread will help clarify each tracker

i would really love to see your comments on that idea made by 3333 before working on it and whether u like it or not :)

f@flot
01-29-2007, 06:25 PM
yeh 3333 have a point here :)

if i would made the list i would down FTWR to 2 or something worth shit i don't care it's rared

george22
01-29-2007, 06:44 PM
I totally agree with 3333 idea

its a great idea and it will help many users

Patriot foreve
01-30-2007, 08:30 AM
ok,i am going to finish that new layer soon,the ranking betwwen () will be for overall review only and () will be for special dedicatede trackers like oink,KG,TT and ()* will mean that this tracker have files and content which mayn't be available on other trackers

Buggyme
01-30-2007, 09:51 AM
I think that this bracket rating system will work great! :)

j0ker
01-30-2007, 12:28 PM
it's not anymore 3333's idea... j0ker's :P

glad you liked it.

nadeem111as
01-30-2007, 01:39 PM
ya add more trackers
and please tell us what is the mechanism that you use to rate the trackers
???

Patriot foreve
01-30-2007, 01:47 PM
The new Beta Version of The rankings is done and it will be posted here later today or tomorrow after making some slight changes

The new Trackers that u will like to add will be choosed and added depending on Your choices and there will be more detailed information about that in anew thread but just after we finish the current improvement and let all members give their opinions about it

Patriot foreve
01-30-2007, 01:51 PM
and please tell us what is the mechanism that you use to rate the trackers
???

The new ranking will combine the current rarity rank and besides each tracker there will be its overall raking depending on content,speed,pre-times and rarity also special trackers which have certain releases like oink,BMTV,KG and others will be identified easily

also the 0-day trackers which may have exclusive releases which man't be found on other trackers will also be identified easily

and as i have said before the new beta thread will be posted here later today or tomorrow for all of u to make your comments and suggestions

thx :)

j0ker
01-30-2007, 01:59 PM
btw, when i said more info about the trackers, and that the review are not helping.. it was more like...

if the reviewers could add their opinion... what's the SLR on 0day torrents few minutes after they're uploaded, how many seeders/leechers on a regular torrent.

cuz some sites have many active peers, but other trackers only few.

Patriot foreve
01-30-2007, 10:31 PM
hi

i am going to post the improvemnts applied to the what invites are worth here to see what do u think of it before applying it

as far as u can see,i have implented an overall ranking besides the rarity ranking that is currentky used ,the new overall ranking will be either

() for 0-day trackers

() for dedicated trackers like oink for music,bitmetv,TT ,etc

()* for 0-day Trackers which have content which mayn't exist in alot of other trackers

The Current Ranking now between () after the edits is for the following

content+Speed+Pre-times

while the rarity ranking is our main levels ranking

i would like u to comment on the current overall rankings sothat if anything needs to be edited :)

What Invites Are Worth

Maintained by: Buggyme (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/members/buggyme-138386/) and Patriot foreve (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/members/patriot-foreve-131955)

This Scale Is To Rate Sites From 1 To 5

1 being the easiest to get an invite or account and 5 the hardest.
This has nothing to do with the contents of the trackers.To Contribute To This Post

Post site name and number according to value you think site has.
Choices are not definitive so anyone could drop an opinion.
Make suggestions what trackers should be added.
Not all trakers will be in this list.Tracker Reviews NEW!

Trackers listed in BOLD have reviews, just simply click on it to see the review.
Reviews are for FST members only! Please DO NOT copy it or use it on another site.THIS LIST SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN TOO LITERALLY.
It's just to figure where each site stands (rarity-wise)
Do NOT ask the URL of the sites specified in this thread.


Level 1 •••••
These sites are open for sign ups. Any users looking to join any of those sites can simply go to the site and register.

Bitsoup(3.5), ILoveTorrents(3), docs.torrents.ro(3.5), Midnight Torrents(3) and countless others...


Level 2 •••••
Accounts at these sites are very easy to obtain. If you ask for an invite/account here in this board, chances are you will get one for free.

TL(4.5), FL(3) (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/../p-what-invites-worth-post1636414/postcount380), TauriTracker(3), Demonoid(4)*, ChronicTracker(3), TD(3), ST(3.5), Bitspyder(3.5), Learnbits(3.5), SCC(3.5), HorrorChannel(3.5), TVJunkies(3), UKNova(3.5), Elbitz(3.5), SITR(2.5), BitHDTV(3.5), PussyTorrents(4), DH(3), HT(2.5), Quorks(2), XboxSky(4), etc.

2.5: A-L(2.5), VIPMusic(3) (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-and-tracker-reviews-post1688805/postcount721), Music-Vids(3), TTi(3.5) (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-and-tracker-reviews-post1688003/postcount705), CO(3) (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-and-tracker-reviews-post1688039/postcount706), ThePlace(3.5) (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1606366/postcount103), TheVault(3.5) (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-with-tracker-reviews-post1699384/postcount767), ExtremeBits(3), TB(3.5), PotUK(3), BTMusic(3), TVTorrents(4), TvT.ro(3) (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-and-tracker-reviews-post1688733/postcount717), FinDVDR(2.5), RevTT(4),Sweloaders(3), SoftTorrents(3), ProAudioTorrents(3.5) etc.


Level 3 •••••
Accounts at these sites are harder to obtain due to various reasons. However, it is still fairly easy to get provided that you offer a site with the same value in return.

rSR(3) (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1602714/postcount59), CZone(3.5) (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1606073/postcount96), iPLAY(4) (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1616905/postcount166), BitMe(4.5), BitMeTV(5) (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1635123/postcount369), OiNK(4) (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1616935/postcount169), Pisexy(3)* (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1617120/postcount172), TS-Tracker(3), x264(3) (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1642035/postcount428), FileFight(3) (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1630946/postcount324), HDBits(3)* (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-and-tracker-reviews-post1688726/postcount716), FileZone(3) (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-and-tracker-reviews-post1688102/postcount708), KrayTracker(3) (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-and-tracker-reviews-post1688076/postcount707), etc.

3.5: TT(3.5) (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1634712/postcount364), PT(4) (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1634273/postcount355), KG(3.5) (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1654430/postcount552), Swebits(3.5) (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1658714/postcount584), TorrentBits(3.5) (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-and-tracker-reviews-post1687411/postcount696), RMVBusters(3.5) etc.


Level 4 •••••
Accounts at these sites are quite difficult to obtain. It may take you a while to get into these sites.

SweDVDR(4) (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1624841/postcount220), FSC(3.5)* (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1612455/postcount148), WB(3.5) (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1633988/postcount348), E***o(4) (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1616438/postcount164), Revolt(1), NB(4) (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-and-tracker-reviews-post1677693/postcount642), IT(3.5), Thor's Land(3)* (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1621619/postcount209), etc.

4.5: FTN(5)* (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1602808/postcount62), FB(4)* (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1602368/postcount49), RP(4)* (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/showpost.php?p=1649433&postcount=493), FTWR(3)* (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1604649/postcount85), etc.


Level 5 •••••
Getting an account at these sites are very difficult if not impossible. Consider yourselves lucky if you have an account at these trackers.

ScT(5)* (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1600757/postcount11) and UK-T(3) (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/showpost.php?p=1600835&postcount=16).

:yahoo:

crossfade
01-30-2007, 11:59 PM
If this ranking is solely based on rarity, only U*** should be on 5 and FTN and SCT should be at the same level - so both 5 or both 4.5.
If content plays somewhat a role, FTN and SCT should be both on 5 and U*** should be on 4.5 or 4.
BitMeTV and Oink should be 3.5, perhaps Bitme as well.
From rarity point of view, I see no difference between levels 2 and 2.5 - they can all be obtained very easily. It is true some have better content and maybe that's why they're rated 2.5 but I'm not sure content plays a role here.

gino77
01-31-2007, 12:36 AM
i Think We Must Find Any Way To Solve Spies Problem
:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o

Invites_4_You
01-31-2007, 12:52 AM
If this ranking is solely based on rarity, only U*** should be on 5 and FTN and SCT should be at the same level - so both 5 or both 4.5.
If content plays somewhat a role, FTN and SCT should be both on 5 and U*** should be on 4.5 or 4.
BitMeTV and Oink should be 3.5, perhaps Bitme as well.
From rarity point of view, I see no difference between levels 2 and 2.5 - they can all be obtained very easily. It is true some have better content and maybe that's why they're rated 2.5 but I'm not sure content plays a role here.

Please read what is bold.


[COLOR="Blue"]hi

i am going to post the improvemnts applied to the what invites are worth here to see what do u think of it before applying it

as far as u can see,i have implented an overall ranking besides the rarity ranking that is currentky used ,the new overall ranking will be either

crossfade
01-31-2007, 01:19 AM
Please read what is bold.


[color="Blue"]hi

i am going to post the improvemnts applied to the what invites are worth here to see what do u think of it before applying it

as far as u can see,i have implented an overall ranking besides the rarity ranking that is currentky used ,the new overall ranking will be either

Does this make my comment useless or what are you implying?

Buggyme
01-31-2007, 01:59 AM
HDBits should be a blue I think. HDBits specialises on HD content and they have a lot of HD content that is not available to obtain from other trackers. TL, RevoTT, iPLAY should be a red IMO - maybe CZone as well. These sites have their own packs that's not available anywhere else and some torrents that's not uploaded in other trackers.

davidkz23
01-31-2007, 08:53 AM
i agree about TL iPLAY and CZONE
and sure HDBits and Swelaoders need to be in blue

Patriot foreve
01-31-2007, 10:24 AM
If this ranking is solely based on rarity, only U*** should be on 5 and FTN and SCT should be at the same level - so both 5 or both 4.5.
If content plays somewhat a role, FTN and SCT should be both on 5 and U*** should be on 4.5 or 4.
BitMeTV and Oink should be 3.5, perhaps Bitme as well.
From rarity point of view, I see no difference between levels 2 and 2.5 - they can all be obtained very easily. It is true some have better content and maybe that's why they're rated 2.5 but I'm not sure content plays a role here.

The new ranking now is based on two things

First:Rarity which is the same old mode with the levels thing

Second:content+speed+pre-times which u can find them between Brackets

Both Rankings now will help members decide what they want to use or what they actully needs

U*** for example is doesn't have anything special regarding content so it's 3 while it's rarity rank is a 5

Tl as another example is a 4.5 now for the speeds,content,pre-times while it's rarity rank is a 2 becauise it's offered for free

Hope u got the idea

Patriot foreve
01-31-2007, 10:25 AM
Hdbits and sweloaders has got there blue nicks :D in the 2nd Beta improvement which will be posted in the next reply :)

Patriot foreve
01-31-2007, 10:30 AM
The new improvements in the Beta 2 Release
=================================

The () has been replaced By []

The Trackers name has Got the Same Color now

The new colors are for example

for 0-day trackers

for dedicated trackers like oink for music,bitmetv,TT ,etc

for 0-day Trackers which have content which mayn't exist in alot of other trackers

And here is the new thread


What Invites Are Worth

Maintained by: Buggyme (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/members/buggyme-138386/) and Patriot foreve (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/members/patriot-foreve-131955)

This Scale Is To Rate Sites From 1 To 5

1 being the easiest to get an invite or account and 5 the hardest.
This has nothing to do with the contents of the trackers.To Contribute To This Post

Post site name and number according to value you think site has.
Choices are not definitive so anyone could drop an opinion.
Make suggestions what trackers should be added.
Not all trakers will be in this list.Tracker Reviews NEW!

Trackers listed in BOLD have reviews, just simply click on it to see the review.
Reviews are for FST members only! Please DO NOT copy it or use it on another site.THIS LIST SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN TOO LITERALLY.
It's just to figure where each site stands (rarity-wise)
Do NOT ask the URL of the sites specified in this thread.


Level 1 •••••
These sites are open for sign ups. Any users looking to join any of those sites can simply go to the site and register.

Bitsoup[3.5], ILoveTorrents[3], docs.torrents.ro[3.5], Midnight Torrents[3] and countless others...


Level 2 •••••
Accounts at these sites are very easy to obtain. If you ask for an invite/account here in this board, chances are you will get one for free.

TL[4.5], FL[3] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/../p-what-invites-worth-post1636414/postcount380), TauriTracker[3], Demonoid[3]*, ChronicTracker[3], TD[3], ST[3.5], Bitspyder[3.5], Learnbits[3.5], SCC[3.5], HorrorChannel[3.5], TVJunkies[3], UKNova[3.5], Elbitz[3.5], SITR[2.5], BitHDTV[3.5], PussyTorrents[4], DH[3], HT[2.5], Quorks[2], XboxSky[4], etc.


2.5: A-L[2.5], VIPMusic[4] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-and-tracker-reviews-post1688805/postcount721), Music-Vids[3], TTi[3.5] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-and-tracker-reviews-post1688003/postcount705), CO[3] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-and-tracker-reviews-post1688039/postcount706), ThePlace[3.5] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1606366/postcount103), TheVault[3.5] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-with-tracker-reviews-post1699384/postcount767), ExtremeBits(3), TB(3), PotUK[3], BTMusic[3], TVTorrents[4], TvT.ro[3] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-and-tracker-reviews-post1688733/postcount717), FinDVDR[2.5], RevTT[4],Sweloaders[3], SoftTorrents[3], ProAudioTorrents[3.5] etc.


Level 3 •••••
Accounts at these sites are harder to obtain due to various reasons. However, it is still fairly easy to get provided that you offer a site with the same value in return.

rSR[3] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1602714/postcount59), CZone[3.5] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1606073/postcount96), iPLAY[4] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1616905/postcount166), BitMe[4.5], BitMeTV(5) (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1635123/postcount369), OiNK[4] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1616935/postcount169), Pisexy(3)* (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1617120/postcount172), TS-Tracker[3], x264[3] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1642035/postcount428), FileFight[3] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1630946/postcount324), HDBits[3] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-and-tracker-reviews-post1688726/postcount716), FileZone[3] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-and-tracker-reviews-post1688102/postcount708), KrayTracker[3] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-and-tracker-reviews-post1688076/postcount707), etc.


3.5: TT[3.5] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1634712/postcount364), PT[4] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1634273/postcount355), KG[3.5] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1654430/postcount552), Swebits[3.5] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1658714/postcount584), TorrentBits[3.5] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-and-tracker-reviews-post1687411/postcount696), RMVBusters[3.5] etc.


Level 4 •••••
Accounts at these sites are quite difficult to obtain. It may take you a while to get into these sites.

SweDVDR[4] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1624841/postcount220), FSC[3.5]* (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1612455/postcount148), WB[3.5] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1633988/postcount348), E***o[4] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1616438/postcount164), Revolt[1], NB[4]* (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-and-tracker-reviews-post1677693/postcount642), IT[4], Thor's Land[3]* (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1621619/postcount209), etc.

4.5: FTN(5)* (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1602808/postcount62), FB[4]* (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1602368/postcount49), RP(4)* (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/showpost.php?p=1649433&postcount=493), FTWR[3]* (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1604649/postcount85), etc.


Level 5 •••••
Getting an account at these sites are very difficult if not impossible. Consider yourselves lucky if you have an account at these trackers.

ScT[5]* (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1600757/postcount11) and UK-T[3] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/showpost.php?p=1600835&postcount=16).

:yahoo:

gbilly72
01-31-2007, 11:25 AM
Nice job. This is much better than before. A new format that integrates overall quality and invite scarcity. :)

geen
01-31-2007, 03:02 PM
The link to FL's detail page is corrupt: http://filesharingtalk.com/p-what-invites-worth-post1636414/postcount380

roccofor
01-31-2007, 03:06 PM
revolt 1 yes it deserve it.
thanks for new rating system

Shadowfire
01-31-2007, 04:54 PM
Cool changes. =) It's very user-friendly.

Imo, IT, and Swebits shouldn't be as high rarity-wise as they currently are. I still stand by that BitmeTV should be .5 higher. Also, some of the [] are still (). ;) In addition, I don't think Elbitz should be 3.5 on quality. The last time I was there, they didn't have many torrents at all. For me, x264 should be 3.5 in quality, RTT should be 4.5 in quality, and Pisexy should be 3.5 in quality.

j0ker
01-31-2007, 05:01 PM
i think Pisexy iPlay and rSR should have higher content/speed rate

Patriot foreve
02-01-2007, 10:39 AM
first of all thx to our Mod RealitY who has organized the next thread and added information about the new features to make it clearer :)


This is the Final Version of The Applied improvements

Sorted trackers by color first and then by rating and made reviews bold.
Added information about the new features and cleaned up some tags...


What Invites Are Worth

Maintained by: Buggyme (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/members/buggyme-138386/) and Patriot foreve (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/members/patriot-foreve-131955)

This Scale Is To Rate Sites From 1 To 5

1 being the easiest to get an invite or account and 5 the hardest.
This has nothing to do with the contents of the trackers.
Not all trackers will be in this list.To Contribute To This Post

Post site name and number according to value you think site has.
Choices are not definitive so anyone could drop an opinion.
Make suggestions what trackers should be added.Tracker Reviews NEW!

Trackers listed in BOLD have reviews, just simply click on it to see the review.
Reviews are for FST members only! Please DO NOT copy or use on another site.Tracker Ratings NEW!

Trackers now have a rating from 1 to 5 in the [#] tags.
This rating is an overall rating on the tracker itself.Tracker Type NEW!

Trackers are now sorted by color to show what type of tracker it is.
Dark Red [] 0-day trackers with rare files and packs.
Green [] 0-day trackers.
Blue [] dedicated tracker.
(like OiNK for music or BitMETV for TV eps)NOTE: THIS LIST SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN LITERALLY.
It's just to figure where each site stands (rarity-wise)
Do NOT ask the URL of the sites specified in this thread.

Level 1 •••••
These sites are open for sign ups. Any users looking to join any of those sites can simply go to the site and register.

Bitsoup[3.5], ILoveTorrents[3],Midnight Torrents[3], docs.torrents.ro[3.5], and countless others...


Level 2 •••••
Accounts at these sites are very easy to obtain. If you ask for an invite/account here in this board, chances are you will get one for free.

Demonoid[3], TL[4.5], ST[3.5], SCC[3.5], FL[3] (http://filesharingtalk.com//vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1636414/postcount380), TauriTracker[3], DH[3], HT[3], ChronicTracker[3], TD[3], SITR[2.5], XboxSky[4],PussyTorrents [4], Bitspyder[3.5], Learnbits [3.5], HorrorChannel [3.5], TVJunkies [3], UKNova [3.5], Elbitz[3], BitHDTV [3.5], , etc.

2.5: RevTT[4], TTi[3.5] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-and-tracker-reviews-post1688003/postcount705), TB[3], SoftTorrents[3], PotUK[3], A-L[2.5], VIPMusic[3] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-and-tracker-reviews-post1688805/postcount721), TVTorrents[4], ThePlace[3.5] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1606366/postcount103), TheVault[3.5] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-with-tracker-reviews-post1699384/postcount767), ProAudioTorrents[3.5] CO[3] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-and-tracker-reviews-post1688039/postcount706), TvT.ro[3] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-and-tracker-reviews-post1688733/postcount717), Music-Sweloaders[3], Vids[3], ExtremeBits[3], BTMusic[3], FinDVDR[2.5], etc.


Level 3 •••••
Accounts at these sites are harder to obtain due to various reasons. However, it is still fairly easy to get provided that you offer a site with the same value in return.

Pisexy[3.5], (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1617120/postcount172) iPLAY[4], (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1616905/postcount166) CZone[4], (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1606073/postcount96) rSR[3], (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1602714/postcount59) FileZone[3], (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-and-tracker-reviews-post1688102/postcount708) KrayTracker[3], (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-and-tracker-reviews-post1688076/postcount707) TS-Tracker[3] BitMe[4.5], OiNK[4], (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1616935/postcount169) x264,[3] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1642035/postcount428) FileFight,[3] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1630946/postcount324) HDBits,[3.5] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-and-tracker-reviews-post1688726/postcount716) etc.


3.5: PT[4], (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1634273/postcount355) TorrentBits[3.5], (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-and-tracker-reviews-post1687411/postcount696) Swebits[3.5], (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1658714/postcount584) BitMeTV[5], (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1635123/postcount369), TT[3.5], (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1634712/postcount364) KG[3.5], (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1654430/postcount552) RMVBusters[3.5], etc.


Level 4 •••••
Accounts at these sites are quite difficult to obtain. It may take you a while to get into these sites.

NB[4], (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-and-tracker-reviews-post1677693/postcount642) FSC[3.5], (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1612455/postcount148) Thor's Land[3], (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1621619/postcount209) WB[3.5], (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-inv</p><p>es-worth-post1633988/postcount348) SweDVDR[4], (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1624841/postcount220) E***o[4], (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1616438/postcount164) IT[3.5], Revolt[1], etc.

4.5: FTN[5], (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1602808/postcount62) FB[4], (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1602368/postcount49) RP[4], (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/showpost.php?p=1649433&postcount=493) FTWR[3], (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1604649/postcount85) etc.


Level 5 •••••
Getting an account at these sites are very difficult if not impossible. Consider yourselves lucky if you have an account at these trackers.

ScT[5], (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1600757/postcount11) and UK-T[3] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/showpost.php?p=1600835&postcount=16)

marksman
02-01-2007, 10:44 AM
nice list..i really like it..but why FTWR gettin no rating?

N@LiM
02-01-2007, 10:46 AM
really a nice work by both of u and also by other participants..

only one suggestion...now FTN should also be in level 5 as its very difficult to get invited there with invites available only at mods discretion and extremely small max users limit...

Buggyme
02-01-2007, 11:00 AM
Maybe we can put little 12x12 or 16x16 icons next to the specialised tracker denoting what they specialise in. Eg: a small TV icon would be placed next to BitMeTV, and a small CD icon would be placed next to OiNK. Also, we can put like a gold star to denote special trackers like ScT and FTN.

Patriot foreve
02-01-2007, 11:01 AM
nice list..i really like it..but why FTWR gettin no rating?

sorry,some technical mistake :D

should be fixed by now ;)

davidkz23
02-01-2007, 11:02 AM
why FTN, FB, RP and FTWR in blue?

why iPLAY, TS Tracker and KrayTracker in green?

Music-Sweloaders[3], Vids[3] ??

(TL can be in red i think...or not...)


are you sure about that?

HT[2.5], ChronicTracker[3]

VIPMusic[4] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-and-tracker-reviews-post1688805/postcount721), OiNK[4] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1616935/postcount169)

CZone[3.5] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1606073/postcount96), SCC[3.5]

HDBits,[3] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-and-tracker-reviews-post1688726/postcount716), BitHDTV [3.5]

0Ri0N
02-01-2007, 11:13 AM
Nice job.
SweBits in blue? Why?

davidkz23
02-01-2007, 11:15 AM
because they have only dvdr

davidkz23
02-01-2007, 11:18 AM
Music-Sweloaders[3], Vids[3]

Sweloaders[3], Music-Vids[3];)

0Ri0N
02-01-2007, 11:19 AM
because they have only dvdr



eBok (http://www.swebits.org/browse.php?cat=27)

Filmer/DVD-R (http://www.swebits.org/browse.php?cat=20)

Filmer/SVCD (http://www.swebits.org/browse.php?cat=5)

Filmer/XviD (http://www.swebits.org/browse.php?cat=19)

Ljudböcker (http://www.swebits.org/browse.php?cat=26)

Musik (http://www.swebits.org/browse.php?cat=6)

Musikvideos (http://www.swebits.org/browse.php?cat=23)

Omslag (http://www.swebits.org/browse.php?cat=28)

Program/PC ISO (http://www.swebits.org/browse.php?cat=1)

Spel/PC ISO (http://www.swebits.org/browse.php?cat=4)

Spel/PS2 (http://www.swebits.org/browse.php?cat=17)

Spel/Xbox (http://www.swebits.org/browse.php?cat=12)

Tv-Ripp (http://www.swebits.org/browse.php?cat=7)

XXX (http://www.swebits.org/browse.php?cat=9)

Övrigt (http://www.swebits.org/browse.php?cat=22)
SweBits is a 0day tracker, not dedicated.

Patriot foreve
02-01-2007, 11:21 AM
why FTN, FB, RP and FTWR in blue?

why iPLAY, TS Tracker and KrayTracker in green?

Music-Sweloaders[3], Vids[3] ??

(TL can be in red i think...or not...)


are you sure about that?

HT[2.5], ChronicTracker[3]

VIPMusic[4] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-and-tracker-reviews-post1688805/postcount721), OiNK[4] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1616935/postcount169)

CZone[3.5] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-post1606073/postcount96), SCC[3.5]

HDBits,[3] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-and-tracker-reviews-post1688726/postcount716), BitHDTV [3.5]


FT,FB,RP and FTWR are fixed now ang got their color

iplay is a 0-day tracker and if u were talking about its packs then 90% is all stolen from sct and ftn so it's not the source for the packs :yup:

TS-Tracker and kray has got their colors also

TL cann't get it's red status because the same goes on him as iplay

The rest of The rankings has been Fixed

Patriot foreve
02-01-2007, 11:23 AM
Nice job.
SweBits in blue? Why?

all of its movies are swedish or either swedish duplicated sound

Cerise
02-01-2007, 11:24 AM
This thread is pretty nice and very precise that's cool.
Nice work :happy:

davidkz23
02-01-2007, 11:43 AM
iplay is a 0-day tracker and if u were talking about its packs then 90% is all stolen from sct and ftn so it's not the source for the packs :yup:


TL cann't get it's red status because the same goes on him as iplay

thanks for this answer

davidkz23
02-01-2007, 11:49 AM
about swebits like the iNViTEr (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/../../members/inviter-144535) said maybe its realy 0day...

i saw you said "all of its movies are swedish or either swedish duplicated sound"

but what about Musik, (http://www.swebits.org/browse.php?cat=6)Musikvideos, (http://www.swebits.org/browse.php?cat=23)Omslag, (http://www.swebits.org/browse.php?cat=28)Program/PC ISO, (http://www.swebits.org/browse.php?cat=1)Spel/PC ISO , (http://www.swebits.org/browse.php?cat=4)Spel/PS2, (http://www.swebits.org/browse.php?cat=17)Spel/Xbox (http://www.swebits.org/browse.php?cat=12)

its also in swedish? maybe swebits is like RP FB and Thor's. think about this

crossfade
02-01-2007, 11:54 AM
IT should be 3.5
TT should have a higher content rating - if you're into electronic music, it's simply the best so 3.5 seems a bit low to me.
Rmvbusters should be 3 - i never heard of it and doesn't seem difficult to get in to
And could you please explain why BitMeTV is harder to get than Oink or Bitme?
thx

davidkz23
02-01-2007, 12:02 PM
IT should be 3.5
TT should have a higher content rating - if you're into electronic music, it's simply the best so 3.5 seems a bit low to me.
Rmvbusters should be 3 - i never heard of it and doesn't seem difficult to get in to
And could you please explain why BitMeTV is harder to get than Oink or Bitme?
thx

IT is the best of the best to who loves indie music. you find there thing that you never find in othe place.

TT is a very good tracker but they have only new release so 3.5 its enough.

Rmvbusters, if you never heard of it its not say nothing:) but still 3 be good for this tracker like x264;)

about BitMeTV this is the reality...

crossfade
02-01-2007, 12:34 PM
IT is the best of the best to who loves indie music. you find there thing that you never find in othe place.

TT is a very good tracker but they have only new release so 3.5 its enough.


what do you mean with "TT has only new releases"?
they have almost 11,000 torrents and those can't all be new releases...

maybe you're right, perhaps it's because to me TT has about the same value as BitMeTV and Oink (and IT) and that's why I would rank them the same

Patriot foreve
02-01-2007, 01:11 PM
IT and TT are both now 3.5 regarding content+speed+pre-times

Swebits has gone green also

davidkz23
02-01-2007, 01:28 PM
do you want we offer new trackers to put on the list?

Patriot foreve
02-01-2007, 01:40 PM
do you want we offer new trackers to put on the list?

there will be anew thread regrding the new added trackers to the current list,i am just waiting for everyone to makesure that the current rankings are fine and apply the new thread and after that there will be the new trackers discussions in a separte topic and everyone can post whatever trackers he think should be added to the list and the highly voted trackers will get in :)

buddy
02-01-2007, 01:45 PM
RmvBusters is a Unique tracker with rare files I would say.. Infact, the files are in .rmv format and are not found anywhere else!

The content may be the same, but the format is entirely different. I think it should only be fair that it's uniqueness should be reflected in the invites worth thread.

Just my 2$ :)

Patriot foreve
02-01-2007, 01:55 PM
RmvBusters is a Unique tracker with rare files I would say.. Infact, the files are in .rmv format and are not found anywhere else!

The content may be the same, but the format is entirely different. I think it should only be fair that it's uniqueness should be reflected in the invites worth thread.

Just my 2$ :)

i totally think Rmvbusters is agreat tracker regarding its speciality as it seems that it's one of the best trackers that is specialized in rmvb movies but since it's not that popular and not many members are fond of rmvb movies as they tend now to download the big HD-DVD (just kidding :D-i mean xvids and dvd-r ) so for its bad luck it's gonna be down unless we see some rush on it :)

buddy
02-01-2007, 02:10 PM
Yeah, I dont mind the rating given to the tracker popularity level.. It could remain as it is.

But it's uniqueness is not credited. Oink and Bitmetv are different from the rest and they are appropriately given their colour code. But in the case of RmvB - Zilch! :ermm:

Patriot foreve
02-01-2007, 02:22 PM
Yeah, I dont mind the rating given to the tracker popularity level.. It could remain as it is.

But it's uniqueness is not credited. Oink and Bitmetv are different from the rest and they are appropriately given their colour code. But in the case of RmvB - Zilch! :ermm:


Rmvbuster already has its blue nick as bitmetv and oink,so what do u mean by colours?

buddy
02-01-2007, 02:30 PM
Yes it is blue.. but not in BOLD. :)

Patriot foreve
02-01-2007, 02:30 PM
The Bold is for trackers which have reviews only ;)

buddy
02-01-2007, 02:33 PM
My bad! Did not see that coming.. :)

davidkz23
02-01-2007, 02:47 PM
The Bold is for trackers which have reviews only ;)

maybe you will do review to rmvb?:)

crossfade
02-01-2007, 02:50 PM
i don't think we're rating specialty here...
i mean, how many people would trade BitMeTV for rmvbusters? that's right, no one
so it's not fair to put it on equal level with BitMeTV
there is absolutely no demand for it and thus its trading power is almost inexistant

Patriot foreve
02-01-2007, 03:44 PM
i don't think we're rating specialty here...
i mean, how many people would trade BitMeTV for rmvbusters? that's right, no one
so it's not fair to put it on equal level with BitMeTV
there is absolutely no demand for it and thus its trading power is almost inexistant

both bitmetv and rmvbusters have the same rarity level,rmvbusters isn't offered that much but if it's offered then anyone who is intereseted in rmvb movies will definietly trade anything to get

I got an sct for that rmvbusters 2 months ago so for rarity it's the same and that's why also we have another ranking and it's ranked 3.5 in that ranking while bitmetv is ranked 5

Patriot foreve
02-01-2007, 03:56 PM
The Bold is for trackers which have reviews only ;)

maybe you will do review to rmvb?:)

may be soon :)

crossfade
02-01-2007, 04:13 PM
both bitmetv and rmvbusters have the same rarity level,rmvbusters isn't offered that much but if it's offered then anyone who is intereseted in rmvb movies will definietly trade anything to get

I got an sct for that rmvbusters 2 months ago so for rarity it's the same and that's why also we have another ranking and it's ranked 3.5 in that ranking while bitmetv is ranked 5

You got SCT for rmvbusters at FST? If so, you are right and rmvbusters shouldn't change.
If it was not at FST however, that argument is useless because the raking your making here is only used by people who trade via this forum.
I mean if someone trades FTN for Bitmetv, at some other p2p site, should the rating of Bitmetv go up at FST? I think no.

Patriot foreve
02-01-2007, 05:06 PM
i got sct for RMVbusters here at FST :)

davidkz23
02-01-2007, 05:45 PM
i got sct for RMVbusters here at FST :)

:blink: who this guy?

i thought that i the only guy here that offer sct not for u*-*:lol:

Moonspell13
02-01-2007, 07:49 PM
Patriot you measure rarity only be supply, not demand.. Have you seen a lot of ppl asking for rmvbusters? And the fact someone would give ScT or I don't know what for it, doesn't make it rare at all.. That's what I also told you about some of the other sites on the thread (like rp...)..
Look at this example : (on a rough estimate..)
BitmeTV has 25000 thousands members and on a rough estimation there should be at least 1000 idle invites maybe a lot more... Yet BitmeTV is not easy to get at all, a lot of people are asking for it lately with really good offers and still not get it.. That's because:
a)The inviters value pretty high their account as the site is awesome
b)The DEMAND (the word you forget) is huge... BitmeTV could easily fill 50000+ members in no time, (as a note,most ppl who have invites there usually give them to real life friends who aren't into invite trading s#$t..)..
And on the other side are sites like RMVBusters and some more, which may have , let's say, I don't know, 1000 users.. and let's say there are 100 idle invites at the moment... How many want to get there? 10?15??? Maybe 30????? I don't think more... That's why no matter the supply , if the demand is not much then there's no rarity..
And again, you have to take into account when measuring rarity not someone who's crazy for an acc over a site would offer, but what ppl on average offer for that site...
Anyway, in the end I really think everyone says his opinion but in the end Buggyme and Patriot do as they please with their thread so every discussion from one point on is kinda pointless... :(

davidkz23
02-01-2007, 08:20 PM
you need to understand one thing
i'll give you two days to get or RP or BitMeTV what do you think you'll get?...
the answer is BitMeTV. that all.

we call this rarity

it dos'nt matter if bitmetv better than rmvb the only thing is matter is the how hard you need to work to get acct in the tracker

crossfade
02-01-2007, 08:26 PM
you need to understand one thing
i'll give you two days to get or RP or BitMeTV what do you think you'll get?...
the answer is BitMeTV. that all.

we call this rarity

it dos'nt matter if bitmetv better than rmvb the only thing is matter is the how hard you need to work to get acct in the tracker

how can you measure if a site's rare or not if nobdy wants it (like it's the case with rmvbusters)... this is what moonspell13 (whom I totally agree with btw) means with demand

Moonspell13
02-01-2007, 08:34 PM
Perhaps you should read more carefully next time ;)


you need to understand one thing
i'll give you two days to get or RP or BitMeTV what do you think you'll get?...
the answer is BitMeTV. that all.



I made a comparison between RMV and BitmeTV not RP, I mentioned RP because I don't think it's worth 4.5 but I DIDN't compare it's rarity to Bitme TV... And on the comparison I made you didn't say a thing :whistling
Also, why would anybody want Rp or Revolt besides its current high rating in that list??If Rp or Revolt weren't on that list nobody would even care about them..Or if they were mentioned as a 2, again nobody would want them .. Now if anybody gets them is just out of curiosity or getting them to trade them in turn for something better.. But everybody wants a bitmetv on the other hand ;)



we call this rarity



I repeat, rarity depends BOTH on DEMAND and Supply, not only on supply, but you can't seem to understand it, or don't want to.. :ermm:



it dos'nt matter if bitmetv better than rmvb the only thing is matter is the how hard you need to work to get acct in the tracker

Now on that rmv and bitmetv I already made it clear, I'm not going to repeat again..
As for the pure rarity thing without caring about content, I guess you would just give ScT for a site with 100 users and 50 torrents nobody has just for the rarity.. :naughty: If you did, then sorry man, but you're just the minority... Most ppl are after getting some accs to start with and trade, afterwards they just want sites they use not sites to have bookmarked and say "wow, what a rare site Revolt is with its huge number of 50 torrents"... :whistling:cool:

crossfade
02-01-2007, 09:14 PM
Problem with this kind of rating system is the list will always be based on the opinions of the creators. Maybe not fully, 'cause FST members have input, but in the end Buggyme en PF decide what's hot and what's not.

For example, I personally value Bitmetv the same as FTN, TT or Oink, even though acocording to WIAW they are in completely different classes.
On the other hand, i couldn't care less about having RP, FB, NB, SweDVDR, Sebits, CO, etc. even though they are rated quite highly according to the creators of the WIAW thread.

What I mean is, when you rate rarity, you indirectly also rate the tracker itself (community, content, etc.).
If this thread only rated trackers according to their rarity, SCT wouldn't be at the top of that list. SCT invites are not that hard to get if you offer the right stuff or meet the right person.

davidkz23
02-01-2007, 09:23 PM
why would anybody want Rp or Revolt besides its current high rating in that list??If Rp or Revolt weren't on that list nobody would even care about them..Or if they were mentioned as a 2, again nobody would want them .. Now if anybody gets them is just out of curiosity or getting them to trade them in turn for something better.. But everybody wants a bitmetv on the other hand ;)
why you compare RP to Revolt:huh:
RP is a good tracker (like NB FB) and ppl offer a lot for him.
Revolt his just a rare forum.



I repeat, rarity depends BOTH on DEMAND and Supply, not only on supply, but you can't seem to understand it, or don't want to.. :ermm:
no. price depends BOTH on DEMAND and Supply, not rarity;)



As for the pure rarity thing without caring about content, I guess you would just give ScT for a site with 100 users and 50 torrents nobody has
no. ppl not given sct for revolt because the content is bad on revolt but ppl knows that revolt his rare. its not mean his worth demonoid but his still rare:yup:

just for the rarity.. :naughty: If you did, then sorry man, but you're just the minority... Most ppl are after getting some accs to start with and trade, afterwards they just want sites they use not sites to have bookmarked and say "wow, what a rare site Revolt is with its huge number of 50 torrents"... :whistling:cool:
i agree i'm also trade my revolt because i wasn't use him but revolt still rare:whistling

for example, i hate u*-* there nothing special in his content so its mean i think he is not rare?

just to be clear i say it again
"What invites are worth" mean: how hard you need to work to get invite to the tracker

for example, revolt invite worth more than bitmetv invite (and i also not go give anything for revolt but still the invite to there worth more than bitmetv invite because if i was want invite to there i'll need to work very hard to get one and if i was want bitmetv invite/acct i'll dont need to wark at all)

"What trackers are worth" mean: which trackers better

for example, bitmetv a lot better than revolt

i agree with you that the old thread is not fair (ppl want a lot of good trackers for shit trackers like revolt or u*-*) and because this patriot work on new thread.

davidkz23
02-01-2007, 09:27 PM
Problem with this kind of rating system is the list will always be based on the opinions of the creators. Maybe not fully, 'cause FST members have input, but in the end Buggyme en PF decide what's hot and what's not.
you wrong:)




What I mean is, when you rate rarity, you indirectly also rate the tracker itself (community, content, etc.).

you right and that what the new thread should to do

davidkz23
02-01-2007, 09:42 PM
how can you measure if a site's rare or not if nobdy wants it (like it's the case with rmvbusters)... this is what moonspell13 (whom I totally agree with btw) means with demand
simple, try to get invite to there and tell me if is rare or not;)

do you know this tracker "e-traktor"? maybe TD worth more but e-traktor rare and TD not rare, that all what the thread want to say which trackers are rare and he dont want to say which tracker better in content or speed or which tacker have most demand

crossfade
02-01-2007, 09:45 PM
no. price depends BOTH on DEMAND and Supply, not rarityhttp://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/../../images/smilies/wink.gif


ok, and what is the price? what you want to pay for it, when you pay you trade your money for goods
well here an invite is traded for another invite
so the law of supply and demand is valid here



you wronghttp://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/../../images/smilies/smile.gif


why is that?
a creation is always based on the opinion of its creator(s)

davidkz23
02-01-2007, 09:50 PM
ok, and what is the price? what you want to pay for it, when you pay you trade your money for goods
well here an invite is traded for another invite
so the law of supply and demand is valid here
sure is valid and because of taht i told already that i dont give anything for revolt but is not valid to say us which tracker rare.



why is that?
a creation is always based on the opinion of its creator(s)
yeah but he listen to members here and do change based on their opinion

Moonspell13
02-01-2007, 10:22 PM
I think this is getting nowhere.... You said that I'm talking about price and rarity is another thing ... I just want to remind you that price derives from rarity in real world so those 2 words are highly connected if not similar on most cases..
My opinion is that in its current form , the WIAW list is not serving its purpose.. not at all..

I wanted to write so much but it's gonna end like an essay or something... In the end, I'm sorry to say, but let everyone decide for himself the validity of that list.. I think we are not kids here... I only feel sorry for the usual noob who will come here and get ripped (give his beloved Oink acc just to get that shity site which someone decided it's worth 4)... But in the end everyone is responsible for his actions..

Patriot foreve
02-02-2007, 01:07 AM
Patriot you measure rarity only be supply, not demand.. Have you seen a lot of ppl asking for rmvbusters? And the fact someone would give ScT or I don't know what for it, doesn't make it rare at all.. That's what I also told you about some of the other sites on the thread (like rp...)

well,if u wanna phrase that right then u should say remove those trackers from the list

and as far as i have seen in our dear members replies and suggestions alot of guys in here wanna more trackers to be added to the list and not to remove some of them

also for example:let's say someone asks about the rank of RMVbusters and what should he offer for it ,should i laugh at him and tell him that RMVBusters is a 2 ,if so he will never get that invite or acc and that's also why we have implented another ranking besides the rarity rank and the other rank is for Content+speed+Pre-Times and that's also why we have colors to specify different trackers and that's also why we have reviews to alot of trackers

also there is Corey's thread which should be very helpful to all members once completed

so all these factors should help any member to decide what he wants and what should he get or it



Anyway, in the end I really think everyone says his opinion but in the end Buggyme and Patriot do as they please with their thread so every discussion from one point on is kinda pointless... :(

You are accusing us of rating trackers depending on our desires,i think this is awful and lame of u to think so because if we were as u said i think we wouldn't have made any thread asking for members suggestions and what they think will help to improve the thread and i think also we wouldn't have listened to members in here regarding their notes and edit our rankings depending on the majority of opinions

We listen to every member opinion and suggestion in the sticky thread and if a majority agree with something then it's changed directly

We don't need to bump any tracker because we already have almost all of them

Also if we weren't taking members opinions about trackers then we wouldn't have edited alot of rankings depending on the majority of members opinions and suggestions

i think members in here has trusted us and voted for us to make that thread and i think we have been doing some hard work along with the aid of alot of members in here to make that thread helpful to every member

Also there is aphrase in the thread which states that this thread shouldn't be taken too literally

so if the members in here think that we have failed to maintain that thread and if they think that we have betrayed their trust and have used that thread for our purposes and that we didn't listen to their suggestions and opinions regarding any tracker rankings then i think they can say that and i promise i will leave the ranking thread and they can choose other members to maintain the thread

Moonspell13
02-02-2007, 08:23 AM
Patriot I will repeat what I told you in irc the other day: in my opinion the thread should only have rarity rankings of the major known trackers: Sct,Ftn,Ukt,Ftwr,Fscr,Bitmetv,Oink etc. = trackers that everybody has some interest in and there have been enough trades to rate them based on what on average people give to get that.. Smaller trackers like IT,Rp,Revolt,Place,Vault,Rmv and some others, which are not of everybody's interest should be excluded from the list... If anyone really wants them he can just make an offer on his thread.. If he doesn't get them he can return with a better offer...It will be more easy for anyone, plus, these sites won't be filled with 0/0 accounts from ppl who keep them just to trade and not because they really like the sites...In short leave the "market" (if we can use that word) on its own to put a value in these trackers ... Because in the end the only thing this list will be it will be of a long listing (since more and more and more sites will be added by demand I guess) which will just "push" people to get site they don't want / use...

As for the second paragraph of your post, first of all I think my last post applies there also.. You said that I said you pump up values of some sites , but I didn't say anything like that here.. I said that based on somebody's mind (buggyme and you in this case, or however has the job of rating anything )rarity tags are given to sites.. About the pump up thing, I only told you in irc in private if you remember , not here.... Because I didn't want to turn any thread into flaming here.. And now you say *I* am lame (?)!!!! But I won't bother about that, if you want more about that, pm me....don't turn this thread into flaming..
Whatever......

ps. Don't say names so easily to other people..
ps2. You take things too seriously, relax..
ps3. If the thread still exists, you will see that I also voted in that poll for Buggyme (and you in turn...)...

shazzar
02-02-2007, 08:50 AM
rarity and thus price/value depends on supply and demand so you going to get some poor trackers at the top.

As for the current ratings i got to say that they seem ok to me. i havent been on every site listed but of the ones i have been on i would have put them in the order they currently are in. sct and tl and bitmetv are my favourites and they rightly score highly and are listed according to how hard they are to obtain.


It all depends on how you want to look at this (rarity or quality wise) and reducing the number of trackers listed wont help members who are not interested in the rare trackers but would like some information on the lesser ones.

so long as our comments are taken into consideration when the list is updated i say keep up with the good work.

davidkz23
02-02-2007, 10:05 AM
Moonspell13 (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/../../members/moonspell13-141279)
why you wrote this? IT,Rp,Revolt,Place,Vault,Rmv

RP and IT they are no small trackers
they have alot members and alot torrents

Moonspell13
02-02-2007, 10:36 AM
They were examples not of small trackers, but of trackers that not everybody is interested... By the way though, IT is small, 1300 torrents.... Place has 3500 ...It was an example of very specialised trackers, not small ones..

crossfade
02-02-2007, 12:13 PM
Ok, I have another question...
Why is SweDVDR ranked 4? They will open the site for invites soon...
Oh wait, didn't Patriot Foreve want to get rid of his PU Account? I remeber quite some threads where he's trying to trade it for something decent.

So if you're gonna tell me this thread is not based on the opinions of its writers, you're blinded by the truth.

Also, several people have suggested to raise FTN to 5. Why hasn't this been done yet. Well, form what I understood, Patriot Foreve got his account at FTN disabled. And if it's ranking goes up a little more, it will be hard for him to get in again.

geen
02-02-2007, 12:23 PM
Ok, I have another question...
Why is SweDVDR ranked 4? They will open the site for invites soon...
Oh wait, didn't Patriot Foreve want to get rid of his PU Account? I remeber quite some threads where he's trying to trade it for something decent.

So if you're gonna tell me this thread is not based on the opinions of its writers, you're blinded by the truth.

Also, several people have suggested to raise FTN to 5. Why hasn't this been done yet. Well, form what I understood, Patriot Foreve got his account at FTN disabled. And if it's ranking goes up a little more, it will be hard for him to get in again.

Reading post #138 might give an answer to your last statement/answer.[/URL][URL="http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-improvements-and-suggestions-thread-post1707157/postcount138"] (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-what-invites-worth-improvements-and-suggestions-thread-post1707157/postcount138)

Moonspell13
02-02-2007, 12:27 PM
Reading post #138 might give an answer to your last statement/answer.

Since I might not be so clever as you think you are, could you point exactly where the answer is :whistling?

S.L.B
02-02-2007, 12:47 PM
in my opinion trackers should be rated by relase time and down speed(number of seeders per torrent),

al the rest is secondary.

I dont care if a tracker is hard to get in , or if it has 100000 torrents.

all I want is to have fast releases and fast download speeds.

I just got my ands on iplay and WB, and I found myself thinking, why on earth are these rated level 3 and 4.

1 or 2 seedrs per torent. very few torrents. down speed not good.

is this the concept of a level 4tracker???

from what i've seen, TL is by far the best tracker on the scene.

TB is great also, but torrents die too young there.

Patriot foreve
02-02-2007, 01:04 PM
Ok, I have another question...
Why is SweDVDR ranked 4? They will open the site for invites soon...
Oh wait, didn't Patriot Foreve want to get rid of his PU Account? I remeber quite some threads where he's trying to trade it for something decent.

So if you're gonna tell me this thread is not based on the opinions of its writers, you're blinded by the truth.

Also, several people have suggested to raise FTN to 5. Why hasn't this been done yet. Well, form what I understood, Patriot Foreve got his account at FTN disabled. And if it's ranking goes up a little more, it will be hard for him to get in again.

funny :D :D ,you are now attacking my person because u disagree with opinions

U know why SWEDVDR is ranked 4 because i refused to higher it to 4.5 while my acc was offered for trade and why is that because i saw that alot of memebers were offering SWEDVDR at the same time so it shouldn't be upped as it's not as rare as FTN or RP or others and u can check my posts and see my replies

Secondly:i have traded that SWEDVDR awhile ago so if i was playing with rankings as u said then i should have lowered it after i traded it and this didn't happened

about the invites at SWEDVDR ,yes when they open invites in 20Feb and u see alot of accs available then it's gonna be lowered

about FTN,do u think that FTN is as hard as Sct or UK-T in rarity? i don't think so because check the last 2 weeks posts and threads and u will see how much FTN was offered and that's what made it stay at 4.5

but regarding the content i gave it a 5 because it deserves and i gave UK-T a 3 because it's just rare and that's why we have made that new rankings

Do u think that i am affected that i got disabled at any tracker ,well that's hilarious because i can get any tracker i want in the same day ,if i want ftn or any other tracker quickly then for your information i can get it easily in the same day

and as i said before i don't need to lower or higher any tracker because i already have almost every tracker and the trades that i do is only for reducing the amount of the trackers that i already have

i got plenty of pms daily from members in here asking for advice about what they should go for if the have this tracker or that and i answer them all and i think most of them were pleased with what they got because i haven't recieved asingle complaint from any of them

You can see also that i am one of the highest ranked traders here and if m offers were bad or disappointing then i think ppl won't trade with me anymore

i am also one of the few members here who replies to every single pm he got although my inbox gots filled more quicker than u think and that's because i care about all members in here and i always wish FST to still be the best community and i know that i got alot of help from members here when i was starting my way and it's time now to help others

You can ask anyone whom have traded with me successfully what offers i gave to most of them and u can ask them was it fair or not and i think u will get an answer to that

i think members in here knows that i take in consideration every single opinion and suggestion especially in the sticky thread because if their opinions were useless as u say then u wouldn't have seen them partcipating more than once

so if u have problems with me personally then take it outside but if u have any suggestions and opinions then i would be really glad to hear them and discuss them

geen
02-02-2007, 01:17 PM
Reading post #138 might give an answer to your last statement/answer.

Since I might not be so clever as you think you are, could you point exactly where the answer is :whistling?

Completly irrelevant offensive post.

I was replying to crossfade, not to you. I thought it might be helpfull since patriot edited his post and crossfade might have missed it. As you can see, theres a number in every right corner of a post, browse a page back and you will find post #138.

anyway patriots edit:


You are accusing us of rating trackers depending on our desires,i think this is awful and lame of u to think so because if we were as u said i think we wouldn't have made any thread asking for members suggestions and what they think will help to improve the thread and i think also we wouldn't have listened to members in here regarding their notes and edit our rankings depending on the majority of opinions

We listen to every member opinion and suggestion in the sticky thread and if a majority agree with something then it's changed directly

We don't need to bump any tracker because we already have almost all of them

Also if we weren't taking members opinions about trackers then we wouldn't have edited alot of rankings depending on the majority of members opinions and suggestions

i think members in here has trusted us and voted for us to make that thread and i think we have been doing some hard work along with the aid of alot of members in here to make that thread helpful to every member

Also there is aphrase in the thread which states that this thread shouldn't be taken too literally

so if the members in here think that we have failed to maintain that thread and if they think that we have betrayed their trust and have used that thread for our purposes and that we didn't listen to their suggestions and opinions regarding any tracker rankings then i think they can say that and i promise i will leave the ranking thread and they can choose other members to maintain the thread

S.L.B
02-02-2007, 01:27 PM
so if u have problems with me personally then take it outside but if u have any suggestions and opinions then i would be really glad to hear them and discuss them [/COLOR]

I gave my opinion , and 2 good examples and still didn't get no reply.

unholyman
02-02-2007, 01:28 PM
sorry,post wrong thread

Moonspell13
02-02-2007, 01:57 PM
Reputation doesn't mean a thing.. Servernet had +23.. Where is he now?? I don't disagree that you answer to all your pms and that you help a lot of people, maybe it's true and that's good, but it's completely irrelevant with the discussion here..
First of all, I don't think Crossfade attacked you neither me not anyone... You are the first who called me lame and as you see I didn't answer to that.. We are *supposed* to have a mature discussion here .. Of course you might be offended by the fact that me and I don't know if anyone else agrees say that you and Buggyme have used somewhat certain sites via their numbered rarity to gain.. I know I gonna be flamed now but that's my opinion ... Also, it's not that I'm calling you anything bad, in the end everyone here is to trade and everyone tries to get the best trade he can... But I think you both should be more *objective* to your rankings... A lot of times people have told why that site is there up or down or anything, and usually your thread is updated without any explanation... That of course is more for Buggyme not you...
As for the fact that you can have any tracker you want the same day, I don't disagree, you might, but if you do, why are you still trading then so much??

ps. Geen sorry if you think I was offensive.. But still I can't seem to find the answer I'm looking in that post...

Patriot foreve
02-02-2007, 02:16 PM
in my opinion trackers should be rated by relase time and down speed(number of seeders per torrent),

al the rest is secondary.

I dont care if a tracker is hard to get in , or if it has 100000 torrents.

all I want is to have fast releases and fast download speeds.

I just got my ands on iplay and WB, and I found myself thinking, why on earth are these rated level 3 and 4.

1 or 2 seedrs per torent. very few torrents. down speed not good.

is this the concept of a level 4tracker???

from what i've seen, TL is by far the best tracker on the scene.

TB is great also, but torrents die too young there.

We have now anew ranking system as u can see,one for raity and the other for

content+speed+pre-times

so for example revolt is rated 4 in rarity but in the [] it's rated 1

TL is 2 in rarity because it's given for free but in [] it's 4.5 and it has beaten alot of highest rare rated trackers

so that's why we have two rankings now and along with reviews and corey's thread then i think u can choose now the trackers that u need :)

j0ker
02-02-2007, 02:18 PM
haha my idea :)
i feel smart (not happening a lot) lol

S.L.B
02-02-2007, 03:30 PM
We have now anew ranking system as u can see,one for raity and the other for

content+speed+pre-times

so for example revolt is rated 4 in rarity but in the [] it's rated 1

TL is 2 in rarity because it's given for free but in [] it's 4.5 and it has beaten alot of highest rare rated trackers

so that's why we have two rankings now and along with reviews and corey's thread then i think u can choose now the trackers that u need :)

i still think that rarity is nonsense.

I can open up a new tracker an only give 1000 acc, does that makes it a good tracker.

It sure makes it rare but that doesn't mean good.

the rarity should be conceded only to trackers that have atleast 4 in two of the other values.

example:

WB

raririty 4
content 3
spedd 2

in this case the rariry shouldn't be in favor of the tracker.

I guess i make myself undestand , besides my bad english ;)

crossfade
02-02-2007, 03:52 PM
i still think that rarity is nonsense.

I can open up a new tracker an only give 1000 acc, does that makes it a good tracker.

It sure makes it rare but that doesn't mean good.

the rarity should be conceded only to trackers that have atleast 4 in two of the other values.

example:

WB

raririty 4
content 3
spedd 2

in this case the rariry shouldn't be in favor of the tracker.

I guess i make myself undestand , besides my bad english ;)

your english is fine and i think you're totally right
rating trackers with crappy content for rarity is pointless as most people (there are always exceptions) want a tracker for its content and not just to have and conserve it
so rarity should not compensate for the content, i think only tracker that are actually wanted by people, should also be rated on rarity (or better: scarcity or abundance)
revolt, for instance, should not be on the list - it's barely a tracker

Patriot foreve
02-02-2007, 04:11 PM
First of all, I don't think Crossfade attacked you neither me not anyone... You are the first who called me lame and as you see I didn't answer to that.. We are *supposed* to have a mature discussion here .. Of course you might be offended by the fact that me and I don't know if anyone else agrees say that you and Buggyme have used somewhat certain sites via their numbered rarity to gain.. I know I gonna be flamed now but that's my opinion ... Also, it's not that I'm calling you anything bad, in the end everyone here is to trade and everyone tries to get the best trade he can... But I think you both should be more *objective* to your rankings... A lot of times people have told why that site is there up or down or anything, and usually your thread is updated without any explanation... That of course is more for Buggyme not you...

well,u accussed us of using the thread for our purposes,do u think that i should :shutup: and thank u for your offensive and wrong accussions :huh: ?

The Trackers are edited in the thread depending on demand,supply and members opinions,so i think if u looked in the sticky thread well u should see guys asking for trackers that should be upped or should be lowered and depending on the majority of opinions we edit the thread

if u suggest that we should make alog for editing the trackers then i think this is agood idea and i think u could have said that in abetter way instead of that offensive way

i don't know what u mean by objective as agreat numbers of members here find the thread fine and if there is aproblem in any ranking we are very pleased to see your opinion about it in the sticky thread



As for the fact that you can have any tracker you want the same day, I don't disagree, you might, but if you do, why are you still trading then so much??

also i don't need to answer that question about my tradings but here is your answer,i am still trading for some reasons

1)i am trying now to lower the no of trackers that i use

2)There are lot of great members who have helped me when i first came here and for some resons they didn't get some trackers so i try to help those who helped me

3)I have alot of Friends who doesn't spend so much time in FST as i do or not members in FST so they trust me with their accs and their trades and i do some trades on behalf of them

Patriot foreve
02-02-2007, 04:22 PM
i still think that rarity is nonsense.

I can open up a new tracker an only give 1000 acc, does that makes it a good tracker.

It sure makes it rare but that doesn't mean good.

the rarity should be conceded only to trackers that have atleast 4 in two of the other values.

example:

WB

raririty 4
content 3
spedd 2

in this case the rariry shouldn't be in favor of the tracker.

I guess i make myself undestand , besides my bad english ;)


That's why we have two rankings,reviews,Corey's Thread

if u open atracker with 5 torrents and 10 members then u may be a 5 in rarity but have u seen me giving u another 5 in content+speed+pre-times?

no i will just give u only a 1 in the other ranking and that's how u can figure what trackers that u would need ,it's not just about rarity now because the new edition of the thread have both rankings and along with reviews,Corey's Thread i think it's helpful

If u were refering that we should remove trackers from the list,i think there are plenty of members here who are fine with the current available trackers and they also wanted new trackers to be added and u can see that i have asked if members think that we should remove some trackers and i think almost all members who replied said that it's fine and we should add more and that's what 's going to happen as we are going to have avote on the new trackers that should be added to the list

Shadowfire
02-02-2007, 08:17 PM
Maybe this discussion should end, because it's going in circles and the same people are just not getting it.