Poll

[Rat Faced]

The Iraqi War is a 'done thing', however the debates in there have evolved in some ways.

There has been a request that this room be re-named and kept for 'serious' debate on such things as Politics, kept seperate from the lounge, so that these threads are not spammed by people that have no interest in the subject.



I agree on a personnal note........

[N£MO]

I think it should be kept too but under a different name.

[ShareDaddy]

I agree, there will always be something going on somewhere that will spark a debate.

[Somebody1234]

Sure thing. Sounds good to me. :)

[[B][O][T]]

Voted Yes, rename it for other debates.

BOT

[Benno]

I voted no opinion because I have never visited it anyway.

[Mivaro]

Great idea. Although i don't post there (yet :unsure: ) i enjoy reading the discussions. It's certainly good for my language skills, i'm waiting for the day i completely understand a post from j2k4 :lol:

[ToraBoraDweller]

As long as it's open for a multitude of topics :yes please !
Seems war-issues are slowly quieting down and maybe it's time
to move to new things. ;)

[jetje]

Name... : The K-Lite Mirror

could be ..?

[sArA]

I think it is a good idea and have posted a yes to the poll.

It is so nice to have somewhere to stretch the 'ole language skills, improve the vocabulary and enter into a friendly verbal fist fight all in one go....

It is such fun....The War discussion is powering down, a bit like the war in general...I am looking forward to the next BIG thing...and presume it will not be about who won American Idol!!! :D

[ShockAndAwe^i^]

It's a great idea.
It's also very difficult to spam in there and not be seen for what it is.

[ToraBoraDweller]

Originally posted by jetje@21 May 2003 - 21:49
Name... : The K-Lite Mirror

could be ..?
:unsure: Is that a zen name? ^_^

[kAb]

yes. please keep it.

its a great place for discussions about politics, as we can see the board is very divers when it comes to politics.

edit: the k-lite mirror? wtf? :lol:

maybe name it like "politics board" or "current affairs/events"

[vivitron 15]

Definite Yes, despite having entered it maybe 2-3 times :)

Seriously though, it helps to keep all the serious stuff in 1 place, I usually come here to get away from serious stuff, I don't want to be subjected to War and Politics in the lounge...keep all the "important" stuff seperate :)

[dlingeverything]

Definitely Yes. It would be a good place to talk about issues
in our current society

[J'Pol]

I voted no.

Get rid of it.

The only couple of times I went there I found the regulars to be stunningly condescending.

It is little more than mutual intellectual masturbation.

Bin it I say, the worst type of patronising snobbery.

[ToraBoraDweller]

Originally posted by JPaul@21 May 2003 - 23:29
I voted no.

Get rid of it.

The only couple of times I went there I found the regulars to be stunningly condescending.

It is little more than mutual intellectual masturbation.

Bin it I say, the worst type of patronising snobbery.
:D I'm sure no-one will accuse you of that!

If you also see Knifethrowers' topic you'll see that it's to your own advantage
if similar threads are all in 1 place. ;)

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by ToraBoraDweller+21 May 2003 - 23:44--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ToraBoraDweller @ 21 May 2003 - 23:44)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--JPaul@21 May 2003 - 23:29
I voted no.

Get rid of it.

The only couple of times I went there I found the regulars to be stunningly condescending.

It is little more than mutual intellectual masturbation.

Bin it I say, the worst type of patronising snobbery.
:D I&#39;m sure no-one will accuse you of that&#33;

If you also see Knifethrowers&#39; topic you&#39;ll see that it&#39;s to your own advantage
if similar threads are all in 1 place. ;) [/b][/quote]
And by this you imply.

[ToraBoraDweller]

Look for instance in the lounge :biggest spamming post in the world,
posts about flaming etc.
My point is (before also made by others)that it&#39;s best to keep stuff like that
as much as possible in 1 place :and therefor acting like a magnet.

No one has to read all &#33;&#33; (....well except the mods that is) :rolleyes:

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by ToraBoraDweller@21 May 2003 - 23:53
Look for instance in the lounge :biggest spamming post in the world,
posts about flaming etc.
My point is (before also made by others)that it&#39;s best to keep stuff like that
as much as possible in 1 place :and therefor acting like a magnet.

No one has to read all &#33;&#33; (....well except the mods that is) :rolleyes:
I understand that.

However it bears no resemblance to the original post which I asked you to explain.

This is a common theme in the place this thread is about.

People posting what they think of as clever replies, without actually talking to each other.

[ToraBoraDweller]

@ JPaul : were you not the one to put an etiquette on ppl?
...and thereby also on yourself?
That does by no way mean that I want to put you down;I really
appreciate input but than expect also reactions . <_<

[Somebody1234]

Originally posted by jetje@21 May 2003 - 16:49
Name... : The K-Lite Mirror

could be ..?
I don&#39;t think that is a good name. It&#39;s too vague, it doesn&#39;t really say what kind of sujects belong there.

I can just see it now... Someone posting that they can&#39;t see themselves (in the mirror). "What am I doing wrong" ??? :blink: :blink: :blink:

[Rat Faced]

Originally posted by Somebody1234+21 May 2003 - 23:35--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Somebody1234 @ 21 May 2003 - 23:35)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--jetje@21 May 2003 - 16:49
Name... : The K-Lite Mirror

could be ..?
I don&#39;t think that is a good name. It&#39;s too vague, it doesn&#39;t really say what kind of sujects belong there.

I can just see it now... Someone posting that they can&#39;t see themselves (in the mirror). "What am I doing wrong" ??? :blink: :blink: :blink: [/b][/quote]
Its also the name of a Tabloid Newspaper in the UK.

I think the main lounge is the Tabloid here ;)

[ToraBoraDweller]

K-Lite Mirror
It just struck me in English-speaking countries a lot of newspapers are called

The Mirror

....so may be that idea has some merit still?




heh..... Rat Faced beat me to it. B)

[Rat Faced]

Originally posted by JPaul@21 May 2003 - 22:29
I voted no.

Get rid of it.

The only couple of times I went there I found the regulars to be stunningly condescending.

It is little more than mutual intellectual masturbation.

Bin it I say, the worst type of patronising snobbery.
:blink: :blink: :unsure:

Who are the snobs?



The people that dont mind you spamming the lounge, or the ones that dont want a serious discussion base?



But at least you came out and SAID why you voted no, unlike the others :rolleyes:


That is appreciated, even if i dont understand the reasoning ;)

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by Rat Faced+22 May 2003 - 00:43--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Rat Faced @ 22 May 2003 - 00:43)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--JPaul@21 May 2003 - 22:29
I voted no.

Get rid of it.

The only couple of times I went there I found the regulars to be stunningly condescending.

It is little more than mutual intellectual masturbation.

Bin it I say, the worst type of patronising snobbery.
:blink: :blink: :unsure:

Who are the snobs?



The people that dont mind you spamming the lounge, or the ones that dont want a serious discussion base?



But at least you came out and SAID why you voted no, unlike the others :rolleyes:


That is appreciated, even if i dont understand the reasoning ;) [/b][/quote]
I&#39;ll go one further old chum.

The snobs are the people who told me I didn&#39;t really undestand the arguement.

The chaps who had quite obviously formed a clique and had rushed to judgement on anyone not in it.

I was going to go into this further then I realised it was a waste of energy. To cut a long story short, it&#39;s the people who put education above intellect. No need to go any further. They know who they are.

It probably is a good idea to leave that section open. It keeps them away from the people who just want to hang here and have a bit of light relief.

[ToraBoraDweller]

The chaps who had quite obviously formed a clique and had rushed to judgement on anyone not in it.


Come on man give me a break,you&#39;re being paranoid.

(you are however right about intellect above education,but then how many ppl do you see
hiding behind a title or degree?)

[kAb]

JPaul, you gotta lighten up man. Lately all you&#39;ve been is some pissed off guy only looking to bring the mood down in posts. Its been pissing ME off and i&#39;m sure others. Don&#39;t flame us for whatever problems your having.

If something is wrong at home, I hope it gets better. But please, like in Bambi, "If you have nothing nice to say, don&#39;t say anything at all" :)

[clocker]

Originally posted by Mivaro@21 May 2003 - 12:40
Great idea. Although i don&#39;t post there (yet :unsure: ) i enjoy reading the discussions. It&#39;s certainly good for my language skills, i&#39;m waiting for the day i completely understand a post from j2k4 :lol:
Never happen.

[clocker]

Originally posted by JPaul@21 May 2003 - 16:29
I voted no.

Get rid of it.

The only couple of times I went there I found the regulars to be stunningly condescending.

It is little more than mutual intellectual masturbation.

Bin it I say, the worst type of patronising snobbery.
Oh, come on JPaul. There&#39;s room for you , too.
http://www.kingofpeace.org/images/poolparty2002/ducky.jpg

[ShockAndAwe^i^]

Originally posted by JPaul@21 May 2003 - 23:29
I voted no.

Get rid of it.

The only couple of times I went there I found the regulars to be stunningly condescending.

It is little more than mutual intellectual masturbation.

Bin it I say, the worst type of patronising snobbery.
Stunningly condecending&#33;
Definitely from some.
But the real question here is,what would gloria think?
http://www.chinkii.com/uploads/album/misc/allred1.jpg

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couldnt care less so i voted no option

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by kAb@22 May 2003 - 02:50
JPaul, you gotta lighten up man. Lately all you&#39;ve been is some pissed off guy only looking to bring the mood down in posts. Its been pissing ME off and i&#39;m sure others. Don&#39;t flame us for whatever problems your having.

If something is wrong at home, I hope it gets better. But please, like in Bambi, "If you have nothing nice to say, don&#39;t say anything at all"
Yeah let&#39;s all be nice and flowery and sweet.

That&#39;ll be really interesting and stimulating.

Having said that, you are someone who thinks handball and swiming added together is a good thing. That in itself is very interesting. You also quote Bambi, has to be indicative of something.

Why am I even talking to you. Fish boy.

[clocker]

Originally posted by JPaul@22 May 2003 - 04:30


That&#39;ll be really interesting and stimulating.

Having said that, you are someone who thinks handball and swiming added together is a good thing. That in itself is very interesting. You also quote Bambi, has to be indicative of something.

Why am I even talking to you. Fish boy.
Hmmm.
And you think other people are "stunningly condescending"?

[J'Pol]

Up to the same old tricks I see.

Quote someone out of context.

I&#39;ve said this or something similar before. I have no intention of wasting my time in arguement by technique. I&#39;ll just go away now, leave it up to you.

You are obviously much better equiped than I to deal with the serious issues.

[clocker]

Originally posted by JPaul@22 May 2003 - 06:10
Up to the same old tricks I see.

Quote someone out of context.

I&#39;ve said this or something similar before. I have no intention of wasting my time in arguement by technique. I&#39;ll just go away now, leave it up to you.


Typical response.
Typical action.

[j2k4]

Just have a minute-

I voted &#39;Yes&#39;.

Have to note; JPaul-I would have spotted you for a regular and welcome contributor.

Sorry you feel the way you do. :(

[Bender]

I voted yes, although I hardly ever join the discussions it is clearly shown this forum section is alive, and needed for.




Suggested forum name:

The Soapbox
Talk about your thoughts, opinions and remarks on politics here.

[jetje]

Well staying out of a lot of discussions to cause there is little debate sometimes merely a change of opinions... (btw took me some time to notice that)
And a collision of cultural differences... but if the majority will have this who am i to say no....

for one thing i have to agree with JPaul. I read someone wrote down something like
"for the more mature and intelectual" well seen in that lght, JP is more then right. :huh:


Quote(JPaul @ 21 May 2003 - 16:29)

It is little more than mutual intellectual masturbation...... .....the worst type of patronising snobbery.

btw sorry JP i took quoted you out of context :D

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by jetje@22 May 2003 - 14:45
Well staying out of a lot of discussions to cause there is little debate sometimes merely a change of opinions... (btw took me some time to notice that)
And a collision of cultural differences... but if the majority will have this who am i to say no....

for one thing i have to agree with JPaul. I read someone wrote down something like
"for the more mature and intelectual" well seen in that lght, JP is more then right. :huh:


Quote(JPaul @ 21 May 2003 - 16:29)

It is little more than mutual intellectual masturbation...... .....the worst type of patronising snobbery.

btw sorry JP i took quoted you out of context :D
LOL

Okay - put in my place by the bald bouncing brothers.

[j2k4]

Originally posted by Bender@22 May 2003 - 08:09




Suggested forum name:

The Soapbox
Talk about your thoughts, opinions and remarks on politics here.
Good suggestion, Bender-

Kinda says what it is, and has a bucolic flavor to mitigate the "hot air" (I love a warm breeze-sometimes too much).

But: it doesn&#39;t really indicate the &#39;exchange&#39; aspect?

What do you think?

[clocker]

How about The Confabulation?

"2 : to hold a discussion : CONFER"
per Webster&#39;s

[ToraBoraDweller]

..Dead poster&#39;s society ?

(keep them coming in ;) )

[jetje]

Originally posted by Bender@22 May 2003 - 15:09
Suggested forum name:

The Soapbox
Talk about your thoughts, opinions and remarks on politics here.
well... it doesn&#39;t cover the load. Debates on war, that wasn&#39;t about politics but about war over oil... :lol:
(not heating up any debates) .... ?

forum name....

IntelActual

[clocker]

Have you considered a career in advertising, Jetje?

[j2k4]

Apart from naming this thing and converting JPaul to participatory status, are we a shoo-in, or what? :huh:

How about "THE MEETING OF THE MINDS AND OTHER UNFORTUNATE ACCIDENTS"? :P

Or: "THE K-LITE INTERNATIONAL MIND-MELD AND BAIT SHOP" :lol:

[kAb]

Originally posted by JPaul+22 May 2003 - 02:30--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (JPaul @ 22 May 2003 - 02:30)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--kAb@22 May 2003 - 02:50
JPaul, you gotta lighten up man. Lately all you&#39;ve been is some pissed off guy only looking to bring the mood down in posts. Its been pissing ME off and i&#39;m sure others. Don&#39;t flame us for whatever problems your having.

If something is wrong at home, I hope it gets better. But please, like in Bambi, "If you have nothing nice to say, don&#39;t say anything at all"
Yeah let&#39;s all be nice and flowery and sweet.

That&#39;ll be really interesting and stimulating.

Having said that, you are someone who thinks handball and swiming added together is a good thing. That in itself is very interesting. You also quote Bambi, has to be indicative of something.

Why am I even talking to you. Fish boy. [/b][/quote]
what.. u don&#39;t like bambi? :P

i&#39;m sorry you&#39;ve never played waterpolo, because everyone who does, never disses it again. toughest sport ever.

i play soccer to, does that make me better?

[clocker]

Originally posted by kAb@22 May 2003 - 15:20


i&#39;m sorry you&#39;ve never played waterpolo, because everyone who does, never disses it again. toughest sport ever.

i play soccer to, does that make me better?
Jeez Kab, you&#39;re so fond of sports where you get all hot and sweaty.
Now this is sport...
http://www.muurkrant.nl/monopoly/images/CaravaKL.jpg

[ShockAndAwe^i^]

Well I see alot of you made it here.
As I was reading page3 I could&#39;nt help but notice the debates have carried over to here.
I really feel like putting a pictue of Gloria Allred here again but I&#39;m waiting until I find a naked one&#33;
I&#39;ve seen a guy around here called celebs are us.
I wonder if he could manufacture one for me?
I would treasure it forever&#33;
hehehe

[clocker]

Originally posted by ShockAndAwe^i^@22 May 2003 - 21:29

I really feel like putting a pictue of Gloria Allred here again but I&#39;m waiting until I find a naked one&#33;

Fortunately for us, you would never find a server willing to host that. :D

[ShockAndAwe^i^]

Your right Clocker&#33;
Last night I tried to upload a nude pic I found of Helen Thomas.
Remember we had discussed her a little and I thought it would be a good laugh
The pic was horrendous and everyone rejected it&#33;
I checked the pics on some of these sites to see if they allowed nude pics,and they did&#33;
But they rejected ole helen time after time.
I tried everything too and it didn&#39;t work&#33;


Btw if you want to view this pic, do a google search for Helen Thomas and then click the images tab.
BE PREPARED&#33;&#33; :lol: :lol: :lol:

wait here it is...if you have the guts&#33;&#33; REJECTED by 4 places for upload and she&#39;s really not even nude&#33;
http://www.bsnn.net/images/thomas.jpg

hehehehehe

[Rat Faced]

Ok, its turned into a spam thread......so to the Lounge with you &#39;snobs&#39; :P

[clocker]

That&#39;s it&#33;

"The Stunningly Condescending&#33;"

[echidna]

keep it, i say
people get tetchy enough about the babble we write in the confines of our off topic corner as it is
we might cause a riot if we got kicked out of our sandbox
i like benders soapbox suggestion, but i&#39;m still thinking something like
The United kNotions debate, opinionation & hyperbole (mostly) about global politics & international relations :: peer sharing of a different kind

[so much cheese so little time]

[j2k4]

Originally posted by echidna@29 May 2003 - 09:18
peer sharing of a different kind


Echidna-

YOU ARE ONTO SOMETHING HERE&#33;

Let&#39;s develop this, everybody-bring the power to bear; focus....:D