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sharedholder
05-21-2003, 06:35 PM
[QUOTE] TCPA stands for Trusted Computing Platform Alliance. For the technology we will speak from TCP (The trusted computing platform). This plans that every computer will have a TPM (Trusted Platform Module), also known as Fritz-Chip, built-in. At later development stages, these functions will be directly included into CPUs, graphiccards, harddisks, soundcards, bios and so on. This will secure that the computer is in a TCPA-conform state and that he checks that it's always in this state. This means: On the first level comes the hardware, on the second comes TCPA and then comes the user. The complete communication works with a 2048 bit strong encryption, so it's also secure enough to make it impossible to decrypt this in realtime for a longer time. This secures that the TCPA can prevent any unwanted software and hardware. The long term result will be that it will be impossible to use hardware and software that's not approved by the TCPA. Presumably there will be high costs to get this certification and that these would be too much for little and mid-range companies. Therefore open-source and freeware would be condemned to die, because without such a certification the software will simply not work. In the long term only the big companies would survive and could control the market as they would like.
Some could think that it should be possible to get around this security. But probably they would be proved they're wrong. Until now there're no such hardware-implemented security systems and actual security systems have to work offline. This would be changed with TCP. The rights and licenses would be central managed by the TCPA (USA?). And as soon a violation is noticed, they will get notified. Read the chapter "The bills" to get an overview about the possible resulting consequences.

The companies:
The TCPA was founded 1999 by Compaq, HP, IBM, Intel and Microsoft. But in the meantime around 200 companies joined them. You will find Adobe, AMD, Fujitsu-Siemens, Gateway, Motorola, Samsung, Toshiba and many other well known companies. IBM already sells first desktops and notebooks with integrated TPM.

The bills:
In the USA there's a planed bill, the so called CBDPTA (Consumer Broadband and Digital Television Promotion Act). First it was callen SSSCA (Security Systems Standards and Certification Act). The new name reads much more harmless. Looks like the first name made it too easy to discover the purpose of this bill.
This bill plans to legally force secure (TCPA-conform) systems. So in the USA it would then not be allowed to buy or sell systems that are not TCPA-conform. Passing this law would be punished with up to 5 years of prision and up to $500.000 fine. The same would apply for development of "open" software. Open means that it would work on systems that're not TCPA-conform.
Even if this bill would only valid in the USA it would have catastrophically effects worldwide. Because US companies are not allowed to develop and sell "unsecure" software, others would have to jump onto the TCP-train, so they would give total control over themself to the TCPA (USA?), or they would have to live completely without software and harware from US-companies. No Windows, Solaris, MacOS, Photoshop, Winamp or to say it short: The largest part of all software that's used on this planet would not be usable.

The consequences:
Thus you're able to determine the consequences for your own situation, we kept this section very generell. But it should be easy to determine the resulting restrictions that would apply for you.


The informational self-determination isn't existing anymore, it's not possible to save, copy, create, program, ..., the data like you want. This applies for privates as for companies
The free access to the IT/Software market is completely prevented for anyone except the big companies, the market as we know it today will get completely destroyed
Restrictions in the usage of owned hardware would apply
The liberty of opinion and the free speech on the internet would finally be eliminated
The own rights while using IT-technologies are history.
The national self-determination of the der particular countries would be fully in the hands of the USA
Probably the world would break into two digital parts (Countries that express against TCPA)

:o :o What a hell?For more information take a look here http://www.againsttcpa.com/index.shtml

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jetje
05-21-2003, 09:08 PM
Yeah look in the lounge we pretty much debated this there. But think that's the way we go.
The new Microsoft shit is for starters. The list of Hardware companies is getting bigger every day.
If this all started we live in a "Trusted" world. Illegal gained software, games, music and movies are unable to be played/used. Cause the hardware won't let it. The people who have the right keys will know all about you and me.... Damn sad, there is to little fist against that.... :angry: :(

Rat Faced
05-21-2003, 11:15 PM
The link is in my sig.....but its the thought that counts ;)

junkyardking
05-22-2003, 06:12 AM
I have a feeling that if it goes ahead it's will more than likely be stuck in the US courts for years, it's against not just p2p but it's anti-competive, even the state governments in the US have launched lawsuits and so on against anti-competive behaviour and hopefully they will do the same in this instance if it go's ahead.

But i do have a bad feeling. :o :o :unsure:

sexxx
05-22-2003, 07:34 AM
the only thing you can do is never buy any members products ever again


but more likly adobe, etc will move out of usa to be able to sell the programs anyways


money talks bullshit walks idea

wings1234
05-22-2003, 11:21 PM
it seems like they have done their home work, but whats to stop me from building my own comp, as not all comps are made by the usa, and im shure alot off peeps will do the same ?

jetje
05-23-2003, 08:07 AM
will not help you. All hardware corporations are integrating these products.
Click here for thecurrent list of participaters (http://www.trustedcomputing.org/tcpaasp4/members.asp). Software houses are folowing big. This is really scary... !