Choosing a Power Supply

[cool skill]

There are 2 computers:

1
INTEL CELERON D 326 2.5ghZ
MicroATX Mobo
80GB Hard Drive
1MB RAM DDR2 (800MHz)
DVD Writer/Dual Layer/LightScribe
NVIDIA GeForce 6200 TC Video Card
Keyboard/Mouse
USB 2.0 (Front/Rear) Integrated
FireWire (Front/Rear) Integrated
Ethernet 10/100/1000 Integrated
Rear Fan


2
INTEL CORE 2 6400 2.13GHz
MicroATX Mobo
500GB Hard Drive
80GB Hard Drive
4MB RAM DDR2 (800MHz)
DVD Writer/Dual Layer/LightScribe
NVIDIA GeForce Video Card 880GTX
ECHO GNIA 3G Interface PCI Soundcard
(http://www.echoaudio.com/Products/PCI/Gina3G/index.php)
Possible Video Capture Card
USB 2.0 (Front/Rear) Integrated
FireWire (Front/Rear) Integrated
Ethernet 10/100/1000 Integrated
Audio (Front/Rear) Integreated
Rear Fan


The GeForce 8800GTX recommends at least 450W Power Supply.
I'm guessing the following would suffice:
1: 350W (V1.3)
2: 460W (V2.2)

[Virtualbody1234]

What's your question?

[cool skill]

My question is about if those are good enough.
Will the 350W power the first computer very well?
Will the 460W power the second computer very well?

I want to make sure these power supplies will provide all the power needed for these PCs to run well.

[Virtualbody1234]

Not all 350W PSUs are equal.
Not all 460W PSUs are equal.

Provide makes and models please.

It's always a good idea to get something a bit more powerful than you actually need. Less chance of overload and room for expansion or upgrades. Stability is important too.

Are the 2 computers in some sort of specialty microATX case?

[cool skill]

In-Win AJ 350W
In-Win Q 460W

[cool skill]

They are not in any special case.
I actually don't understand why all the cases that I find have the brand name of the case company on it. It makes it hard to sell as your own computer.

The only company that I found was Linkworkd and In-Win.
Linkworld does not have any products on their website, so I cannot rely on their products.
In-Win has a very good website.
But their
MicroATX case and ATX cases only come with a 350W power supply.
Their largest power supply is 460W

So here is the dillema. The company with nice cases with no brand name on them have power supplies that might be too low.
In-Win is actually the only company I know that does not put a logo on the case other than Linkworld which has a bad website.

The companies with with good case/ power supply combos have their brand name on the case, and therefore, cannot be used.

[zapjb]

Buy a separate PSU. Ask here & you'll get some feedback.

[lynx]

The specs for those PSUs look ok for your intended use, but I can't claim to have any knowledge of the brand or their reliability.

Judging from their price alone, I would have to suspect that they are at the lower end of the quality line. Considering that the PSU can potentially blow every piece of electrical/electronic equipment in the case, I'd look for something of a little higher quality.

There are also plenty of cases with no logos, both with and without PSUs. In any event, what's wrong with a branded case? Any well known pc maker will put their own name on the case, the lack of such a brand name immediately highlights the fact that you put it together yourself.

No-one is likely to believe you built the actual case yourself, so I don't see why you need an unbranded case. On the contrary, a branded case from a well known supplier shows that you cared enough to get a case from someone who is proud of their reputation.

[cool skill]

Please tell me of any cases with no brand on it.

I find that the brand on the case can be misleading to customers thinking that is the brand of the builder of the computer.
As the builder of the computer, you probably would not want to claim that you are part of that company.

Nor would you probably want to represent yourself as part of the company.

I case with no logo on it can be a good thing or a bad thing. It does show that the case was made by a good company. But it can also be mislead the customer.

In-Win is the only single company I know that sells cases with no logo, and has a website to back up their product line. Many other companies even Rosewill, Spire, Apevia/Aspire, Powmax, Enermax, Thermaltake, Antec all have their logo on the case.

[lynx]

First one I found has no logo.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811144026

And the second, apart from on the PSU.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811129155

And the third, no PSU with this one.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811119068

I'll let you take it from there.

[Alba Meira]

Definatly the first one.

[clocker]

Please tell me of any cases with no brand on it.

I find that the brand on the case can be misleading to customers thinking that is the brand of the builder of the computer.
As the builder of the computer, you probably would not want to claim that you are part of that company.

Nor would you probably want to represent yourself as part of the company.

I case with no logo on it can be a good thing or a bad thing. It does show that the case was made by a good company. But it can also be mislead the customer.

In-Win is the only single company I know that sells cases with no logo, and has a website to back up their product line. Many other companies even Rosewill, Spire, Apevia/Aspire, Powmax, Enermax, Thermaltake, Antec all have their logo on the case.
Are you claiming to be a manufacturer of PCs?
If so, how many units a month?

Does Michael Dell have to start watching his back?

[cool skill]

No he does not. I'm not making any per month yet. I want to start building and selling. I'm currently jobless and peniless.
I can take orders from people that want a computer. If they pay me in advance, I can buy the parts, and build a system for them. Way better than Dell. And with optional OS.



First one I found has no logo.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811144026

And the second, apart from on the PSU.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811129155

And the third, no PSU with this one.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811119068

I'll let you take it from there.
Thanks, but I cannot use those.

I'm looking matching cases. Low cost. Black. Front USB2 and audio ports. No other features to keep the cost down. No power supply included. No brand name on case.
Therse are examples. They are perfect in every respect with only one exception. They come with a power supply.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811108025
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811108018

[mr. nails]

for somebody that wants to build pc's as ur own business u seem to be making it already harder than it is. i used to build pc's for a company and have built thousands and now i just work on server motherboards. i still build pc's for people as a project for myself and to make easy extra money. building pc's with name brands already on them are of no problem. the people ur building the pc for already know u are building the pc and ur telling them (asking them) what to put in the machine. they get what they want and when they see the outcome they are overly happy. if someone were to build me a pc i'd be damned if i want a brandless item in my rig. i'd rather it said the name brand product than not. u'll see.

[cool skill]

I'll keep that in mind considering the difficulty in finding a decent case with no brand name on it.

How can I put my own brand name on my PC?
I have no idea how they print it on there. The onyl thing I can think of is to use a sticker.

[Virtualbody1234]

A sticker on the small square that most cases have is perfect.

Next is to come up with a design for your sticker/brand logo. :)

Btw, this thread is really more about cases than PSUs.

[cool skill]

Yes I guess it turned out that way.
Considering the example of Computer 1 in the first post, I am considering the following case/psu:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811164089

[Appzalien]

I have 6 Antec cases, all different types and not one came with the antec brand name on it. Most of them have a little square section on the door or grill where you can mount a stickable ANTEC button if you wish but you can also put stickes from the motherboard (I have one with MSI in the square and one where I put an ASUS button). One of the 6 is actually not called antec but came from Tiger Direct and is called a Chieftec case (actually made for chieftec by antec) and it was the same way (no sticker in the square) The good thing about this is that antec cases and power supplies although more expensive than InWin are excellent quality.

[cool skill]

Yes Antec is well known for quality cases and power supplies. They are just very expensive.

Here are the cases I am considering for the specs I mentioned in the first post.
Computer 1: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811164089

Computer 2: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811164061


I'm hoping that the 430W psu will be sufficient for Computer 1, and the 500W psu sufficient for computer 2.

[Virtualbody1234]

Yes Antec is well known for quality cases and power supplies. They are just very expensive.

Here are the cases I am considering for the specs I mentioned in the first post.
Computer 1: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811164061

Computer 2: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811164061


I'm hoping that the 430W psu will be sufficient for Computer 1, and the 500W psu sufficient for computer 2.

Both of those links are the same.


Also... As I have already said. Not all watts are equal. I wouldn't trust that 500W PSU.

[cool skill]

Sorry. Fixed that.
How can you tell the real wattage?

[killuminati96]

I'd get at least a 500 Watt. That's what I have and I've had no problems gaming on a daily basis.

[zapjb]

Watts don't mean piddle.

[cool skill]

Watts don't mean piddle.
What is important? How can I tell if the 500W is ok?

[zapjb]

Even within good manufacturers quality varies. Heres a good deal though.
http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/messageview.php?catid=18&threadid=702658&highlight_key=y&keyword1=antec

[clocker]

Watts don't mean piddle.
What is important? How can I tell if the 500W is ok?

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