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popwar
02-08-2007, 10:07 PM
booting up is not the problem. let me say that first. its the way it does it. when i boot up with my monitor plugged into my video card it stays a black screen with monitor in sleep/standby mode until the welcome screen then its fine. but if i boot up with my monitor plugged into my onboard graphics card it boots up fine showing the boot options and xp loading bar. i've tried to reinstall my video card drivers and set default settings in bios under onboard boot up. i dont know what the fuck the problem is. it booted up fine on my card before i upgraded my system.
system specs:
Amd Athlon 64 3200+ (venice core)
xp professional
biostar geforce 6100 motheroard with 256mb on board gfx (ob gfx suck)
Visiontek Radeon x1300 256mb ddr video card PCI
512mbram ddr
suprafreak6
02-08-2007, 10:37 PM
change the settings in bios to onboard video off...and then it will boot from graphics card
popwar
02-09-2007, 02:30 AM
i dont think theres an option for that in my bios but i already did it in my device manager and even though its disabled it still boots up to welcome screen then goes black and then i would have to switch to my x1300 card to view welcome screen and so on..
mbucari1
02-09-2007, 07:26 AM
Physically open your computer case. there should be a jumper to set your bios back to default settings. it will be 3 pins with a jumper connecting 2 of them. With the power OFF, remove the jumper and move it so that it then connects one of the original pins and the other lone pins. then place the jumper back to its original setting. Boot up and this should fix it (given that you could see the boot process when you first set up your computer)
popwar
02-09-2007, 03:45 PM
ok i'll try it
mbucari1
02-10-2007, 01:08 AM
did it work??
popwar
02-10-2007, 03:16 AM
no it didnt work lol
Virtualbody1234
02-10-2007, 05:40 AM
Are you sure that there isn't a way to disable the onboard video? An option in the BIOS or a jumper on the motherboard?
popwar
02-10-2007, 02:36 PM
i'll look in bios again but the jumpers on the motherboard gave me hell for about 20min. its like 3 little pins and 2 pins next to each other where it looks like one after i pulled them off the pins i was like.. fuck... i figure it out though not wantin to go threw that again.
There certainly isn't a jumper that changes this option, but I remember that there is a bios setting.
The option you want is something like "primary graphics adapter", or "Initial display adapter", the choices should be pretty obvious.
My brother has one of these motherboards, if you haven't resolved this by tomorrow I'll go and have a look at his system.
I notice that the downloadable manual is about as useful as a chocolate fireguard with respect to bios settings, maybe the printed version has more info.
popwar
02-10-2007, 09:14 PM
theres an option that says sumtn like Init. Display and its on PCI
I'm pretty sure that's the option you need to change.
The default is always the on-board graphics controller, so that if something goes wrong with an add-in graphics card you can reset the bios and it will revert to the on-board chip.
In any case, that setting is usually only taken in to account if there is more than one graphics controller, but since you've got 2 you need to tell it to use the add-in card.
Virtualbody1234
02-10-2007, 11:21 PM
I had checked the online manual too. Useless.
popwar
02-11-2007, 01:24 AM
ok i'll try to have it make option of using add-in card. because the init. display option has been on pci since i got my computer. the onboard is pci e . the options for the init display are onboard,pcie,pci
mbucari1
02-11-2007, 03:40 AM
Download cpu-z (http://www.cpuid.com/download/cpu-z-138.zip) and find the exact model number of your mainboard. Then, google it. Download the manual from the manufacturer's website and read up on it.
Last resort eh :lol:
(http://www.cpuid.com/download/cpu-z-138.zip)
Virtualbody1234
02-11-2007, 03:54 AM
Download cpu-z (http://www.cpuid.com/download/cpu-z-138.zip) and find the exact model number of your mainboard. Then, google it. Download the manual from the manufacturer's website and read up on it.
Last resort eh :lol:
(http://www.cpuid.com/download/cpu-z-138.zip)
I guess you haven't bothered to read the whole thread. :no:
popwar
02-11-2007, 04:11 AM
lol virtual. anyways. add in cards is enabled for boot. i'll reinstall the fuckin card if that will fix it. not cussin anyone just cussin at my problem. dont go 'n' ban me now.. lol
popwar
02-11-2007, 05:16 AM
didnt help :(
The problem is with the hardware before windows has booted so re-installing the windows drivers was never going to help, it is definitely a bios setting that needs changing.
I've re-read the thread from the beginning, and noticed that you say it is a PCI card. That seems a strange choice considering that you've got a PCI-E motherboard. Perhaps we should clear up what you've actually got.
If the graphics card is in the white slot, then it is a PCI-E card and that's what the bios setting needs to be changed to.
If the graphics card is in one of the blue slots, then it is a PCI card and you should set the bios accordingly, although it sounds like you've already done that.
clocker
02-12-2007, 12:51 PM
If, after following VB and Lynx's suggestions, you still have this issue you can try this (may not work, but certainly won't hurt....):
-Boot to safe mode and use Driver Cleaner (http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=745) to scrub away all traces of your current drivers.
-Install the correct drivers for your card.
-Install and run Bootvis (http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=664) (three traces and a final optimize pass).
Seems to me that your vid drivers are not loading properly during the boot sequence- if so, this procedure should take care of it.
The fact that your card does eventually initialize makes this more of an irritant than a "problem" but I can see how it would be worth fixing.
rodrigof
02-12-2007, 01:07 PM
Try to phisically remove the videoboard, reboot the Pc, startup and the plugin again the VB, It just works for me.
If, after following VB and Lynx's suggestions, you still have this issue you can try this (may not work, but certainly won't hurt....):
-Boot to safe mode and use Driver Cleaner (http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=745) to scrub away all traces of your current drivers.
-Install the correct drivers for your card.
-Install and run Bootvis (http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=664) (three traces and a final optimize pass).
Seems to me that your vid drivers are not loading properly during the boot sequence- if so, this procedure should take care of it.
The fact that your card does eventually initialize makes this more of an irritant than a "problem" but I can see how it would be worth fixing.
Clocker, I think you've missed the point.
The card is ok once windows has loaded the drivers, but until that point there is no output from the graphics card. The conclusion is that the bios is using the built-in adapter, not the add-in card.
clocker
02-12-2007, 11:56 PM
Maybe, maybe not.
Seems to me that if he can see BIOS at all then the hardware knows what vid source it's supposed to be using, it's Windows and it's boot sequence that is screwed up.
However, this wouldn't be the first time I was wrong.:unsure:
popwar
02-18-2007, 08:41 PM
who ever said sumtn about the pci card and that i have pci e. well i bought the card before i upgraded my system and 256mb pci-e cards are kind of expensive.
popwar
02-18-2007, 08:43 PM
whats Nvidia IDE ?
Virtualbody1234
02-18-2007, 10:10 PM
whats Nvidia IDE ?
Where do you see that?
who ever said sumtn about the pci card and that i have pci e. well i bought the card before i upgraded my system and 256mb pci-e cards are kind of expensive.TELL US WHICH CARD HAVE YOU GOT OR WHICH SLOT IT IS IN.
We are getting fed up of guessing.
popwar
02-19-2007, 05:52 AM
i already told everybody. its a radeon x1300 PCI its in a PCI slot for PCI cards with a PCI bus which is PCI ...
popwar
02-19-2007, 05:53 AM
i see the nVidia IDE on the uninstaller it gave option to uninstall pci management system,display driver,nVidia IDE, and the nTune thing. tried to uninstall display driver didnt help if anyone tells me to try it
popwar
02-23-2007, 02:42 PM
i think everyone on this thread will be happy to know that i fixed the problem. i switched init. display to pci-ex16 and it fixed it for some reason..
Virtualbody1234
02-23-2007, 04:49 PM
i think everyone on this thread will be happy to know that i fixed the problem. i switched init. display to pci-ex16 and it fixed it for some reason..That's because you have a PCI Express x16 card.
This must be wrong:
i already told everybody. its a radeon x1300 PCI its in a PCI slot for PCI cards with a PCI bus which is PCI ...
I would have been better if you would have provided us with proper information like make/model or even a part number.
The best would be to provide a link to the actual product.
For example: http://www.sapphiretech.com/en/products/graphics_landing.php?gpid=124
popwar
02-23-2007, 05:38 PM
its not a pci express x16 card. this is what i got
http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?pfp=cat3&product_code=340770&Pn=Radeon_X1300_Video_Card
Virtualbody1234
02-23-2007, 09:03 PM
I don't get it.
Why would you buy something like that when you can get a pro version PCI Express x16 card for the same price: http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?pfp=BROWSE&No=20&N=200105&product_code=339250&Pn=Radeon_X1300_Pro_Video_Card
popwar
02-23-2007, 09:14 PM
im wanting to do that but i bought the one i got because i bought it when i didnt have pci express in my computer. now i do
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