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Detale
02-10-2007, 04:41 PM
I am building my own system and after I placed my order on Newegg i am not so sure about Pciexpress My mobo (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813157092) says:

AGP Slots 1 x AGP 4X / 8X
PCI Express x16 None
PCI Express x4 1
PCI Slots 4

And the vid card (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage.asp?Image=14%2D141%2D022%2D07%2Ejpg%2C14%2D141%2D022%2D02%2Ejpg%2C14%2D141%2D022%2D03%2Ejpg%2C14%2D141%2D022%2D04%2Ejpg%2C14%2D141%2D022%2D05%2Ejpg%2C14%2D141%2D022%2D06%2Ejpg&CurImage=14%2D141%2D022%2D07%2Ejpg&Description=BIOSTAR+V6202TS63+GeForce+6200TC+Supporting+256MB%2864MB+On+board%29+GDDR2+PCI+Express+x16+Video+Card+%2D+Retail) I ordered is PCI express x 16. Am I screwed here and I will have to return the card or is it okay? Any help here would be great from you fine folks over in this section. Thanks:D

clocker
02-10-2007, 04:43 PM
Well, you're right...you fucked up.

Swap the motherboard, there is absolutely no reason to chain yourself to an AGP future.

Detale
02-10-2007, 04:43 PM
So I cannot use this freakin card DAMNIT!

Detale
02-10-2007, 04:44 PM
Do you have any recommendations for a mobo that is about the same price?

lynx
02-10-2007, 07:16 PM
The board you ordered has both AGP and PCI-E x16 slots, so you can install that graphics card. However, the slot only runs at x4 speed, to make it compatible with the AGP x8 slot, but that speed will be fine for the graphics card you've ordered.

If you want a full speed x16 slot you'll have to swap the board.

If you can put up with lower specs a micro-atx board may fit the bill.
This one maintains your chosen memory speed (DDR667), but you only get 2 memory slots and you also lose 2 PCI slots.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813135043

If you need more PCI slots, but can put up with slower memory speed this one will probably be ok for you.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813135044

Finally, if you need all the PCI slots and want to keep the memory speed you'll have to increase your budget a little, this is the lowest priced offering from Newegg.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813130059

Virtualbody1234
02-10-2007, 11:44 PM
The board you ordered has both AGP and PCI-E x16 slots, so you can install that graphics card.

Then why does it say:


Expansion Slots
AGP Slots 1 x AGP 4X / 8X
PCI Express x16 None
PCI Express x4 1
PCI Slots 4

tesco
02-10-2007, 11:48 PM
pci-x x16 and x4 are the same slot just with a different speed? :huh:

S!X
02-10-2007, 11:53 PM
Then why does it say:


Expansion Slots
AGP Slots 1 x AGP 4X / 8X
PCI Express x16 None
PCI Express x4 1
PCI Slots 4

Take a look at this. http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/13-157-092-04.JPG

suprafreak6
02-11-2007, 01:29 AM
yeah its should work fine...no problems

Detale
02-11-2007, 01:32 AM
WOW guys Thanks so much. I asked the customer service guy on the chat help thing. He was of no use I sent a message to asrock to find out for sure, just so i don't mess up again. I canceled my order tand just ordered a cheap PCI vid card to be safe.
http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/ProductImageCompressAll200/14-161-010-07.jpg (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814161010)


Thank you guys so much for helping me and I hope you will be around when It's time for me to put this thing together. I have done it twice before ( put systems together ) and I never had a problem so hopefull I wont have one this time either, but it is GREAT to know that this community is so great and can answer any and all probs I may have! Okay so I'm gonna get the crappiest case ever from a e-bay store here
http://img.inkfrog.com/pix/cldirect2003/CA328SS252.jpg (http://cgi.ebay.com/ATX-328-Silver-Case-w-PowerStar-600w-PS-2-FREE-Case-Fan_W0QQitemZ330084720595QQihZ014QQcategoryZ3669QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item330084720595)

I would like the opinions of the crowd please Thanks again guys!:D

zapjb
02-11-2007, 01:56 AM
Beware of no name PSU.

Detale
02-11-2007, 02:11 AM
Why/ What could happen ( not sarcastic ) Really could it mess up my 5hit?

S!X
02-11-2007, 02:16 AM
Why/ What could happen ( not sarcastic ) Really could it mess up my 5hit?

It may be unreliable, it's always a good idea to have a quality name brand PSU with a good warranty.

Detale
02-11-2007, 02:17 AM
Unreliable hell I'm unreliable too!

S!X
02-11-2007, 02:22 AM
Unreliable hell I'm unreliable too!

Well that's the risk you take...You have been warned! ;)

zapjb
02-11-2007, 02:55 AM
Why/ What could happen ( not sarcastic ) Really could it mess up my 5hit?
Yes

Detale
02-12-2007, 01:55 AM
Linkin you're scaring me. Dammit now I have to get a better power supply too. Any recommendations on that guys? Im looking @ this one:
APEX AL-B500E ATX 500W Aluminum Power Supply 115/230 V UL, FCC, CSA, TUV

http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/ProductImageCompressAll200/17-154-015-05.JPG (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16817154015)

zapjb
02-12-2007, 02:43 AM
No not that one.

Detale
02-12-2007, 03:08 AM
Reason?

zapjb
02-12-2007, 06:11 AM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/CustRatingReview.asp?DEPA=1&Type=&Item=N82E16817154015&SortField=3&SummaryType=ALL&Pagesize=&Page=

clocker
02-12-2007, 12:34 PM
Detale,
There are two problems with cheezy PSUs:
-When they go, they tend to take out other components as well.
The best example is the Bestecs used by eMachines and Compaq...50% of the time they fry the motherboard when they fail.
-Even if the PSU appears to be functioning normally, line ripple and variable output can cause innumerable problems- problems you'll go nuts trying to trace because the power supply seems to be OK (i.e., powers up. POSTS, and boots to desktop). You'll suspect everything BUT the real culprit.

Sadly, there is no industry standard for power supplies.
Basically, the maker can claim anything they want.
For instance, a PSU will make more power at low temps...there is nothing to stop the manufacturer from testing his supply at 0ºF and then labeling it as a 500w, even though at realistic temps it falls to say, 300w.

The best source of reliable (and realistic) PSU info is jonnyGURU (http://jonnyguru.com/review_details.php?id=35), IMO.

Detale
02-12-2007, 11:39 PM
Hey clocker man you are awesome again . I went over to JonnyGuru site and WHAT a wealth of info! He helped me out so much I decided to order this
ROSEWILL RP500-2 500W
Click on the pic
http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/ProductImageCompressAll200/17-182-016-15.jpg (http://www.jonnyguru.com/review_details.php?id=48)

He gave it a 8.5 and its well within my price range. Thanks again

suprafreak6
02-13-2007, 01:14 AM
what is it... you kinda just put a picture...

Virtualbody1234
02-13-2007, 01:31 AM
what is it... you kinda just put a picture...

The picture links to: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817182016

suprafreak6
02-13-2007, 02:05 AM
oh sorry m8. didnt see the linking...it was tricky!Props to you. I do like that psu. except im saving for a modular one...

Detale
02-13-2007, 03:46 AM
Sorry Global I made it more clear. I read some bad reviews on newegg, but after reading this guys site I trust him more than the average user. Thanks again Clocker for the link!

delimare
02-18-2007, 07:21 PM
Linkin you're scaring me. Dammit now I have to get a better power supply too. Any recommendations on that guys? Im looking @ this one:
APEX AL-B500E ATX 500W Aluminum Power Supply 115/230 V UL, FCC, CSA, TUV

http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/ProductImageCompressAll200/17-154-015-05.JPG (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16817154015)

A friend of mine bought a PSU that had a similar color scheme.

He's gay now.

zapjb
02-18-2007, 07:44 PM
Linkin you're scaring me. Dammit now I have to get a better power supply too. Any recommendations on that guys? Im looking @ this one:
APEX AL-B500E ATX 500W Aluminum Power Supply 115/230 V UL, FCC, CSA, TUV

http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/ProductImageCompressAll200/17-154-015-05.JPG (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16817154015)

A friend of mine bought a PSU that had a similar color scheme.

He's gay now.
:lol: