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tzone
05-26-2003, 07:12 AM
wats the best im installing frontpage xp now cuz i dont like dream weaver that much its not stuctured and tidy

im hoping frontpage will be better

please give ya opinions and an explanation with it cuz this is not a poll kinda

sorry cud a mod move this to a better category cuz i was veiwing a topic in this category and then i clicked the new topic button sorry!
adez
05-26-2003, 07:57 AM
well my opinion is:

frontpage makes making a website a piece of cake, thus all you have to concentrate on are the graphics and the looks. is super tidy, if that's what you are looking for but a big diffrence than dream, you can't make your own graphics. as in dream you program and create with flash and make a flash website, that's a diffrence with frontpage. frontpage you make clean html and you have to add active scripts to input flash objects.

dream makes a more cool, cartoony, sci-fi effect to your site.
frontpage makes a highly proffessional design.

you choose.
Nimdock
05-26-2003, 09:55 AM
Dreamweaver all the way!
Livy
05-26-2003, 10:19 AM
my vote goes for dreamweaver
Rat Faced
05-26-2003, 10:37 AM
sorry cud a mod move this to a better category cuz i was veiwing a topic in this category and then i clicked the new topic button sorry!




Your wish is my command..............
Luca_Snipes
05-26-2003, 11:18 AM
The code the Dreamweaver creates is cleaner and more compliant than that by Frontpage, it can also check your code against a number of server technolgies and standards (XHTML, ASP, PHP, ColdFusion etc)
Ynhockey
05-26-2003, 11:48 AM
Dreamweaver is better - it has a great reference guide for HTML/CSS/JS which alone, at least for me, makes it the best editor out there (since i don't actually use the editor, just do some stuff on it if i don't know how to code it, then copy the code). Other than that, Dreamweaver's better 'cause it doesn't put quite as much useless code (but still enough), and it's not from M$ :)

I don't know about other features that these progs have as i rarely use them. But from what i know, Dreamweaver > all similar progs.
Goldwheelz
05-26-2003, 01:44 PM
Originally posted by Ynhockey@26 May 2003 - 12:48
Dreamweaver is better - it has a great reference guide for HTML/CSS/JS which alone, at least for me, makes it the best editor out there (since i don't actually use the editor, just do some stuff on it if i don't know how to code it, then copy the code). Other than that, Dreamweaver's better 'cause it doesn't put quite as much useless code (but still enough), and it's not from M$ :)

I don't know about other features that these progs have as i rarely use them. But from what i know, Dreamweaver > all similar progs.
Dreamweaver MX all the way! B) B)
echidna
05-26-2003, 02:02 PM
dreamweaver dreamweaver dreamweaver
i can't think of anything bad with it apart from not dealing with unicode well
css support, server models, the property inspector & the inbuilt reference
along with built in ftp, wysiwyg editing and rendering includes

if you want to learn publishing for http then use dreamweaver
frontpage is a waste of time and it will teach you little [and what it does teach will likely be bad habits]
regnaDkciN
05-26-2003, 06:34 PM
Which is better? It all depends on what you're looking for.

If you just want to put up some personal pages or keep your website on the hobby level, FrontPage is probably OK.

If you plan to be a professional, or want to develop professional-level skills, you'd probably be better off learning Dreamweaver and other Macromedia products. The learning curve may be higher, but the results will be worth it.

Here's a site that compares them. It's not a comparison between the latest versions, but it should give you a good idea of how they stack up:

http://www.webreference.com/authoring/lang...ors/dwfp/2.html (http://www.webreference.com/authoring/languages/html/editors/dwfp/2.html)

I'm not a professional graphics person, but I did work for a group of newspapers several years ago. One of the graphics people recommended Dreamweaver. As a paginator, I was already familiar with Quark, Photoshop, and Illustrator, at least on basic levels, and found it relatively easy to get stuff done in Dreamweaver. There are some good books out there on Dreamweaver.
spudlover
05-26-2003, 09:30 PM
Originally posted by adez@26 May 2003 - 07:57
frontpage makes a highly proffessional design.

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ooo
05-26-2003, 09:33 PM
i prefer frontpage...

1) frontpage doesnt generate a </> ending tag after u type in <>... since i like writing everything myself

2) easier to see...

dislikes

3) wen u save it saves as .htm and generates ending tags on things.... wen u dunt want it...

i use both~
MetroStars
05-26-2003, 09:55 PM
I can&#39;t belive sum people like or use FrontPage ....

DREAMWEAVER for ever....
ooo
05-26-2003, 10:01 PM
dreamweaver has alot of functions yes but then again the screen is too small even wen u collapse everything&#33;... lol i made my homepage w/ a mixture of

front page and dreamweaver :P
Ynhockey
05-26-2003, 11:44 PM
If you plan to be a professional, or want to develop professional-level skills, you&#39;d probably be better off learning Dreamweaver and other Macromedia products. The learning curve may be higher, but the results will be worth it.

I don&#39;t know about that... if you&#39;re a pro you&#39;ll just use Notepad.exe - that way you&#39;ll know exactly what code was entered and you won&#39;t have to learn Dreamweaver... but of course, to be a pro, you&#39;ll at least need HTML and JS (out of the stuff Dreamweaver supports), and maybe CSS.
spudlover
05-27-2003, 11:04 AM
Originally posted by Ynhockey@26 May 2003 - 23:44
if you&#39;re a pro you&#39;ll just use Notepad.exe
Pro&#39;s dont have time for Notepad. Yes, it&#39;s the only way to know exactly whats being entered, but it just doesn&#39;t provide what a professional web designer/developer needs - it doesn&#39;t even have colour coding. DW saves hours of time and effort- its saved my ass many a time B)
tzone
05-28-2003, 06:57 AM
at the moment im sticking with front page but im gonna stick in all the flash and all the rest of the crap that frontpage cant cope with

a feature that front page lacks is to have a default page setting eg background text colour etc...

but yeah theyre both good in theier own special way

heres a sample of wat ive just made compared to my old page made with ms word ::puking face with tounge stincking out::
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&#60;head&#62;
&#60;meta http-equiv=&#34;Content-Language&#34; content=&#34;en-us&#34;&#62;
&#60;meta name=&#34;GENERATOR&#34; content=&#34;Microsoft FrontPage 5.0&#34;&#62;
&#60;meta name=&#34;ProgId&#34; content=&#34;FrontPage.Editor.Document&#34;&#62;
&#60;meta http-equiv=&#34;Content-Type&#34; content=&#34;text/html; charset=windows-1252&#34;&#62;
&#60;link rel=&#34;File-List&#34; href=&#34;index_files/filelist.xml&#34;&#62;

&#60;title&#62;New Page 2&#60;/title&#62;
&#60;&#33;--&#91;if &#33;mso&#93;&#62;
&#60;style&#62;
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.shape &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; { behavior&#58; url&#40;#default#VML&#41; }
&#60;/style&#62;
&#60;&#33;&#91;endif&#93;--&#62;&#60;&#33;--&#91;if gte mso 9&#93;&#62;
&#60;xml&#62;&#60;o&#58;shapedefaults v&#58;ext=&#34;edit&#34; spidmax=&#34;1027&#34;/&#62;
&#60;/xml&#62;&#60;&#33;&#91;endif&#93;--&#62;
&#60;/head&#62;

&#60;body link=&#34;#FFFFFF&#34; vlink=&#34;#FFFFFF&#34; alink=&#34;#FFFFFF&#34; text=&#34;#FFFFFF&#34; bgcolor=&#34;#004080&#34;&#62;

&#60;p&#62;
&#60;&#33;--&#91;if gte vml 1&#93;&#62;&#60;v&#58;rect id=&#34;_x0000_s1026&#34;
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z-index&#58;1&#39; fillcolor=&#34;#004080&#34; strokecolor=&#34;#004080&#34;&#62;
&#60;v&#58;textbox&#62;
&#60;table cellspacing=&#34;0&#34; cellpadding=&#34;0&#34; width=&#34;100%&#34; height=&#34;100%&#34;&#62;
&nbsp;&#60;tr&#62;
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&nbsp; &nbsp;&#58;&#58;Harry potter&#58;&#58; &#58;&#58;Harry potter forum&#58;&#58; &#58;&#58;tzone&#58;&#58; &#58;&#58;Japanese course&#58;&#58; &#58;&#58;user
&nbsp; &nbsp;pages&#58;&#58;&#60;/font&#62;&#60;/td&#62;
&nbsp;&#60;/tr&#62;
&#60;/table&#62;
&#60;/v&#58;textbox&#62;
&#60;/v&#58;rect&#62;&#60;&#33;&#91;endif&#93;--&#62;&#60;&#33;&#91;if &#33;vml&#93;&#62;&#60;span style=&#39;mso-ignore&#58;vglayout;position&#58;
absolute;z-index&#58;1;left&#58;158px;top&#58;131px;width&#58;654px;height&#58;38px&#39;&#62;&#60;img
width=654 height=38 src=&#34;index_files/image001.gif&#34;
alt=&#34;Text Box&#58; &#58;&#58;main reactor&#58;&#58; &#58;&#58;forum&#58;&#58; &#58;&#58;Harry potter&#58;&#58; &#58;&#58;Harry potter forum&#58;&#58; &#58;&#58;tzone&#58;&#58; &#58;&#58;Japanese course&#58;&#58; &#58;&#58;user pages&#58;&#58; &#34;
v&#58;shapes=&#34;_x0000_s1026&#34;&#62;&#60;/span&#62;&#60;&#33;&#91;endif&#93;&#62;&#60;iframe name=&#34;I1&#34; src=&#34;logo.htm&#34; width=&#34;100&#34; height=&#34;110&#34; frameBorder=0
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;width=&#34;99%&#34; scrolling=no &#62;Your browser does not support inline frames or is currently configured not to display inline frames.&#60;/iframe&#62;
&#60;iframe name=&#34;I2&#34; width=&#34;875&#34; height=&#34;95&#34; src=&#34;new_page_6.htm&#34; frameBorder=0
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;width=&#34;99%&#34; scrolling=no&#62;
Your browser does not support inline frames or is currently configured not to display inline frames.&#60;/iframe&#62;&#60;/p&#62;

&#60;p&#62;
&#60;iframe name=&#34;I3&#34; src=&#34;nav.htm&#34; width=&#34;146&#34; height=&#34;1506&#34; frameBorder=0
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;width=&#34;99%&#34; scrolling=no target=&#34;p2&#34;&#62;
Your browser does not support inline frames or is currently configured not to display inline frames.&#60;/iframe&#62;
&#60;iframe name=&#34;p2&#34; width=&#34;68%&#34; height=&#34;1483&#34; src=&#34;index2.htm&#34; frameBorder=0
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;width=&#34;99%&#34;&#62;
Your browser does not support inline frames or is currently configured not to display inline frames.&#60;/iframe&#62;
&#60;iframe name=&#34;I5&#34; src=&#34;new_page_9.htm&#34; width=&#34;185&#34; height=&#34;1489&#34; frameBorder=0
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;width=&#34;99%&#34; scrolling=no&#62;
Your browser does not support inline frames or is currently configured not to display inline frames.&#60;/iframe&#62;&#60;/p&#62;

&#60;p&#62;&nbsp;&#60;/p&#62;

&#60;/body&#62;

&#60;/html&#62;

yeah youre gonna have to use fp or dw or something like that to preview it but ill edit this post once ive uploaded it