Pledge For More Hd Content Trackers

[livil]

I did recently bought as many other people also did this year due to a good drop in the prices a widescreenn HD tv ( a 42 inches 1080 Toshiba for my part) .
SO what ;i guess i wont take the miss to a ski trip this year.....
anyway let me deal with the domestics issues that this will bring...

my more important problem is to now get some material to feed my hd hungry display. i do know so many bill bob or jim who spent the big bucks on a high end tv set and proudly demonstrated me the efficiency of HD by plugging by scart their VCR.:pinch: :pinch: :pinch:
let stop the fun but the reality is not so far as 80per cent of HD tv set buyers are happily displaying upscaled 480 dvd on their 720 or 1080 set. thqt is a shame.
As you guessed i am part of the 20 per cent who grasp the idea that in order to get HD quality on My HD tv is would also need ..well.... HD files.

so here is the choice.
HDTV .
i live in uk and i never been a fan of TV and ohh i got to pay for it.
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HD DVD BLU RAY
. I went to my local virgin retailer and ask for the HD section and was directed to a small shelf with max 25 titles dispo at around 24 pounds each.not so expensive but unfortunately the player is around 500 pounds just about half the price of my tv. no go.

HD torrent.
here started the quest for hd files on trackers. i got stuck quiet quickly to a few options.
1 public tracker/indexing site
honestly i dont see myself getting a 8+ gigas movies from mininnova or pirate bay. no offence and big thank you for the service provided and the amount of file available

2 private tracker with hd content
Big thanks to the site concerned for adding a HD category to your site but unfortunately they dont brig a lot of traffice for now

3 chineese tracker.
i did for fun googled HDVDRIP and holly hell what is that....
endless list of .cn .net with endless list of HD movie available.
yes they certainly have been busy behind the great firewall for quiet a time and most of the famous HDencoding and HDcappers are coming from there.
big respect and thank you but is there someone here with wisdom and knowledge (mostly in chineese language) that could enlight for me the treacherous path to registration...
I am not that dumb and certainly figured out where to put my username password and adress email but then....
they all got a funny multichoice question about cookies and other stuff i dont even grasp the meaning. and i shamefully fail at this point.
SO IS THERE ANYONE CHINESE OUT THERE PLEASE

4 THE GRAAL of HD
the dedicated HD content tracker (in a language i understand)
those of you hd adept will recognize them without having me to name them here and would surely agree with me to say that 1 there are not enough of them and 2 the one existing are getting quiet a challenge to get in (one still open for signup and respectfully one of the 2best)
this is why i would like first to thank our French and Romanian friends for their recent opening and ask the concerned person to open more HD trackers.
The amount of people in need of these Hd movies ( believe past the 32inches mark HD content in not to show of but it is a necessity ) is increasing at high speed and the few trackers around wont be enough for everybody.
so if you like to get shitload of traffic or simply like to fill people need please answer this call WE NEED MORE HD .....
anyone who agree here with me please ask for it in this thread and enlight your friends by showing them the way to hd.

nb . yes i know about usenet:dry:

[necromantic]

I'm curious how you plan on getting the HD content you download onto your new 42" widescreen without a HD-DVD/BluRay Player or Burner. Are you planning on hooking up your computer to the TV?

[Melvinmeow]

I'm curious how you plan on getting the HD content you download onto your new 42" widescreen without a HD-DVD/BluRay Player or Burner. Are you planning on hooking up your computer to the TV?


I would think so. Its alot cheaper to do that than to get a Blueray burner. Also if hes getting hd-xvid as apposed to hd-dvdr then he could just burn them on disks or recode them to dvdr format.

I personally think as more and more sites notice a larger demand for HD files they will start offering them.

We experimented with HD-XVID files on my site a while back I seeded some for over 3 Months and nobody ever really downloaded any of the stuff I had posted. I guess it all depends on the sites userbase and what their users are interested in for the most part. Most of my users ussually stick to the xvid releases. We lately have been seeing a few more interested in DVDR releases since some broadband providers have been doing upgrades.

[livil]

I'm curious how you plan on getting the HD content you download onto your new 42" widescreen without a HD-DVD/BluRay Player or Burner. Are you planning on hooking up your computer to the TV?


I would think so. Its alot cheaper to do that than to get a Blueray burner. Also if hes getting hd-xvid as apposed to hd-dvdr then he could just burn them on disks or recode them to dvdr format.

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yep that is the trick without buying a HD/bluray player and a HD/bluray burner (900sterling) and blank HDdvd/bluray .this setting would be the end of my banck account....

so of course throught my pc graphic output. for the purist it would mean a pci express graphic card with a hdmi/hdi outpout but i do not want to change all my system so i am only using my shitty ati raeon 128 and you know what quality rocks.
i know it is not 100 pure digtal but i compared by playing the same file ( xvid 1.4gig file because my standalone dvdplayer doesnot of course read HD) using my pc and the vga outpout versus standalone dvd player and hdmi outpout
not a freacking difference in quality; not that i can see anyway.

[necromantic]

Yeah, IMO it's a little early for HD content. Until I can burn my own HD-DVDs I won't be downloading any of the hd stff. It's too much trouble to haul my pc downstairs to watch a movie, and watching HD on my 19" monitor is not gonna happen lol. Cable seems to be the best bet right now for hd content.

EDIT: hmm, I wonder if it would be possible to stream hd stuff to my xbox360?

[livil]

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We experimented with HD-XVID files on my site a while back I seeded some for over 3 Months and nobody ever really downloaded any of the stuff I had posted. I guess it all depends on the sites userbase and what their users are interested in for the most part. Most of my users ussually stick to the xvid releases. We lately have been seeing a few more interested in DVDR releases since some broadband providers have been doing upgrades.[/quote]

Tanks for trying but i know it is hard to get users to switch from the traditional 2cd xvid towards a min 4.7 gig file but you sure understand that it is worth it.i just got to express my feeling regarding encoding and releasing HD using xvid. dfinitely not the favorite codec of HD fanatic . even the wmhd atract more peers.
The increase in graphic quality isnot in my sense worth the heavy download.
H264 is the way. have a look at the 2 most famous HD tracker stats and you will find 200 seeds and 40 leech for a lot of h264 files and peole uploading to those tracker got a pipeline of a connection. at the moment they have around 300/400 differents movies titles in various codec/resolution/container.
H264 is now used at the source of a lot of HD channels and most of the hardware developer will soon include (if not already done gforce) the h264 standard.

PLEASE MORE HD TRACKER
livil




EDIT: hmm, I wonder if it would be possible to stream hd stuff to my xbox360?

yes it is possible but there is a lot of restriction regarding the format and codec used.
it can play retail HD DVD you need to dowload a software upgrade.
it will play WMV HD files with WM audio
i read something about streaming HD xvid bit i cant remenber what
there is an issue with the fact that the hard disk is in fat32 format that wont allow file over 2gigas. NTFS will do.

i do not own a 360 so i cant be really specific but scroll throught the various 360 forum and you will watch HD content on your tv using your xbox. i hope you will try and tell us the result.

my mate can play xvid HD using his digico Tvix ...yet another solution

[livil]

OK just to show the differences here are 2 jpg screenshots i made (i know png is better but the size would be too big ) from moster inc
one from a 2cds dvd rip 1.4 gig total by diamond i believe
one from Monster.Inc.1080p.HDTV.DTS.x264-ESiR -
now are you convinced that we need more hd tracker...

[i.dragonfly]

Nice screenshots - you can see the difference not only in details and resolution, but also in richness in color and contrast.

I also think it's worth it to download a DVD5 (and sometimes a DVD9) sized file for the HD quality. I can forgo the dvd menus and extras on a DVD-R release -- I'd rather download the same size file in x264 HD resolution. Sometimes you even get 1080p for CG movies in DVD5 size.

It's not only movies - TV shows are being released more consistently in 720p x264 format. Heroes (my fav), 24, Prison Break, etc.

My view on playback is that I want to build a HTPC - specifically to store and playback media, especially HD media. Why bother burning to disc at all? Hard drives are cheap. Plus the HTPC should be able to handle and scale just about every type of codec.

livil, you make a good point about needing more HD content. However, I would suggest that we have enough specialized HD trackers, we just need more HD content uploaded to those trackers. Bit-HDTV, x264.eu, and hdbits.org are more well known; hd-bits.ro is less known. Get the word out and upload to these sites!

[Ne'tu]

We have a great HD tracker now, almost all good releases are there.

Why do you need more?

[Sentient]

We have a great HD tracker now, almost all good releases are there.

Why do you need more?

When are they reopening by the way? I'm not sure I'd trust using them though.

[i.dragonfly]

We have a great HD tracker now, almost all good releases are there.

Why do you need more?

When are they reopening by the way? I'm not sure I'd trust using them though.
Who is "they"? And why the distrust?

[Sentient]

One of the hdbits admins was apparently using users' logins at hdbits to login to some of their other sites.

[Ne'tu]

Neah, that was not about using passwords...


In response to the random claim that we know all your passwords and can/will use them on bitmetv if you have the same password there, I would like to point out that the only trace of your password stored in the database is your passhash.
This is a 128bit md5 hash of your password and a 20 character long random string.
For those of you who that makes no sense to, it means all that is stored is something like 1055d3e698d289f2af8663725127bd4b....which cannot be reversed back into your password.

[i.dragonfly]

Thanks for the update on hdbits, Ne'tu.

I'm also seeking an account there, and am also interested when they're opening back up to invites. Anyone know?

[Ne'tu]

Max users 10000
Registered users 11,720

They'll enable invites after they reach 10000 users probably.

[Sentient]

Neah, that was not about using passwords...


In response to the random claim that we know all your passwords and can/will use them on bitmetv if you have the same password there, I would like to point out that the only trace of your password stored in the database is your passhash.
This is a 128bit md5 hash of your password and a 20 character long random string.
For those of you who that makes no sense to, it means all that is stored is something like 1055d3e698d289f2af8663725127bd4b....which cannot be reversed back into your password.

I dunno, something happened. Admins of trackers don't just disappear without good reason, and ftn posted a general warning to their users not to use the same username and password everywhere soon after bitmetv named hdbits specifically. It's too much of a coincidence for me.

[Melvinmeow]

Neah, that was not about using passwords...


In response to the random claim that we know all your passwords and can/will use them on bitmetv if you have the same password there, I would like to point out that the only trace of your password stored in the database is your passhash.
This is a 128bit md5 hash of your password and a 20 character long random string.
For those of you who that makes no sense to, it means all that is stored is something like 1055d3e698d289f2af8663725127bd4b....which cannot be reversed back into your password.

They are encrypted with what we call a grain of salt type encryption.
Meaning that the passhash is differant on every site. So if you took the passhash from site1 and tried using the same passhash on site2 they shouldnt work.
However when you have the passhash set to not encrypt passwords like a certain site I suspect was doing ::cough cough:: then it technically isnt encrypted.
Ex:
Non-Encrypted Method: Password typed is BOB, password is stored in the database as BOB.
Encrypted method: Password typed is BOB, Password is stored in the database as a 32 char string. ahfin191ne9engf9u
(Method every other site cause we dont need/care to know your passwords)

Using the non-encrypted method which most of us suspect that other clown was storing them as. If he sees you use the password BOB on his site for x username. He then could try logging in the same exact way you do via typing BOB as the password on site 2.

[Sentient]

Max users 10000
Registered users 11,720

They'll enable invites after they reach 10000 users probably.

They give a reason? Odd to slim down on an hd tracker, all those massive files could use a lot of peers. Did they have server problems?

[livil]

We have a great HD tracker now, almost all good releases are there.

Why do you need more?

yes we certainly have a great tracker but as you said in one of your later post .
allowed menbers is only 10 000 plus some internal problems.
whqt about people who cant get in there. or at x264 only invite or BHDTV only 15000 menbers allowzed. and you ask why we need more tracker.....

how many trackers is there for divx/xvid movies or games and apps...
hundreds.
restrecting the amount of HD tracker will only bring what we see now elitisme. the you are not worthy to share with me behaviour.little griddy persons holding on to their packet of bits qs if they were golden nuggets....
i dont really mean that but it sounds good to me0 .
anyway Ne'tu i am glad to find persons like you to discuss this matter with. i bielieve that the HD format is right now democratizing itself and thqt it qill replace in the next 2/3 years the good old dvd and it 1.4 gig compressed encodes.



Max users 10000
Registered users 11,720

They'll enable invites after they reach 10000 users probably.

They give a reason? Odd to slim down on an hd tracker, all those massive files could use a lot of peers. Did they have server problems?


As the leading tracker for HD content and the recent shamble about the HD DVD and BLURAY discs protection system beeing next to useless. THANK YOU
you probably dont want to bting to much attention on yourself especially if you start to have a large amount of HDDVD/BLURAY ripped available on your tracker.hense the reduction of menbers and harsh invite system.
i dont disagree with this precaution but let spread the risks and open more hd tracker there are a shitload of people xanting those files

[Melvinmeow]

Neah, that was not about using passwords...


In response to the random claim that we know all your passwords and can/will use them on bitmetv if you have the same password there, I would like to point out that the only trace of your password stored in the database is your passhash.
This is a 128bit md5 hash of your password and a 20 character long random string.
For those of you who that makes no sense to, it means all that is stored is something like 1055d3e698d289f2af8663725127bd4b....which cannot be reversed back into your password.


Just wanted to point out as well about the "1055d3e698d289f2af8663725127bd4b" comment about not being able to revert back to your password. That statement is in fact false. If the person knows what they are doing even with the password being encrypted they could still convert it back to the original form password. Just figured I would mention that to deem their statement FALSE.

[zaguar]

Really? So you've magically found a way to reverse the MD5 hashing process? If so, tell me what this string is: 1cbd3b9800b88f9cb98755e40a15c813 . Thanks.

[Sentient]

Really? So you've magically found a way to reverse the MD5 hashing process? If so, tell me what this string is: 1cbd3b9800b88f9cb98755e40a15c813 . Thanks.

It reverses to Liar. Sure hope that isn't your real password. Found with the help of the first google hit on the search "reverse md5 hash": http://md5.benramsey.com/

On topic: I think a lot less of HDBits that they didn't come clean about what Valerio was doing.

[lysine]

i live in uk

how do you plan on downloading these large files, considering almost all uk isps have bandwidth and speed limitations?

[crossfade]

On topic: I think a lot less of HDBits that they didn't come clean about what Valerio was doing.

Me too. I think it's awful they denied that they used a cheating script.
He was banned at abhdtv.net for doing something hack-related as well - I don't remeber exactly what it was...

[livil]

i live in uk

how do you plan on downloading these large files, considering almost all uk isps have bandwidth and speed limitations?

i am not planning to ....
an averageday i get around 8gigs

PIPEX
BULLDOG
BE

no capped dowload there is it...
just the usual fair usage policy
got no idea how many gigas a month get you into trouble.
i guess i might find out soon or later

by the way i hvnot try be yet and i would like to know if their 24meg down and 1.5 Up is for real or not.no contract but a three months notice for 24 pounds a month plus line rental from BT.

[gbilly72]

Really? So you've magically found a way to reverse the MD5 hashing process? If so, tell me what this string is: 1cbd3b9800b88f9cb98755e40a15c813 . Thanks.

It reverses to Liar.All right, try this one then: f3a1914b83533acab45eb3a37cbdd975

:)

[kalpesh]

It reverses to Liar.All right, try this one then: f3a1914b83533acab45eb3a37cbdd975

:)

That is a wrong one

[Sentient]

It reverses to Liar.All right, try this one then: f3a1914b83533acab45eb3a37cbdd975

:)

No results. Maybe it only works for common words? It seems that it searches a database of common md5 hashes.

[kalpesh]

From hdbits

2007-02-24 - In response to the random claim that we know all your passwords and can/will use them on bitmetv if you have the same password there, I would like to point out that the only trace of your password stored in the database is your passhash.
This is a 128bit md5 hash of your password and a 20 character long random string.
For those of you who that makes no sense to, it means all that is stored is something like 1055d3e698d289f2af8663725127bd4b....which cannot be reversed back into your password.

password is "The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy cog"

[Jaits]

Neah, that was not about using passwords...


In response to the random claim that we know all your passwords and can/will use them on bitmetv if you have the same password there, I would like to point out that the only trace of your password stored in the database is your passhash.
This is a 128bit md5 hash of your password and a 20 character long random string.
For those of you who that makes no sense to, it means all that is stored is something like 1055d3e698d289f2af8663725127bd4b....which cannot be reversed back into your password.

firstly its a 32char hex md5 hash.. secondly .. the 20 character long random string is called salting and is used in the actual cookies, not what is stored in the db (and it doesnt affect the authentication process in any case - u still need the actual password - read the 3rd part).. and thirdly, all one has to to do, is modify takelogin.php script, so instead of just md5'ing the password u provided in login.php (to login) to check it with the md5'ed stored on in the db (that is how authentication works, md5 is a one-way hash function which means u cannot mathematically get the password from the md5 - so what u do is encrypt the password u wanna check with md5 and check if the md5's are the same) u also take that value (which is not encrypted - u obviously have the unencrypted value since u need to encrypt it to check it) and store it in another table.. and boom.. u have all the passwords of all ur users.. and in most cases, users are naive and use the same password in all the sites (i know i even do that)... offcourse using the authentication technique, u could brute force crack it, but if u read about how the md5 works, that would take ages.,.. offcourse, theres also rainbow tables, but i wont get into that..

do u really think a sysop would actually admit of doing that ? :D

so...... to be safe, use a differnt password in all the sites u visit... i know of at least 4 trackers (that i wont mention by name) that actually store unencrypted passwords in their db (which inmo is very very lame but anyhow) (and as i mentioned in my previous post, i didnt find any proof that hdbits does that - it was just speculation based on their previous actions (which i have seen with my own eyes) and on what i had read here that happened to bitmetv...)

[Sentient]

From hdbits

2007-02-24 - In response to the random claim that we know all your passwords and can/will use them on bitmetv if you have the same password there, I would like to point out that the only trace of your password stored in the database is your passhash.
This is a 128bit md5 hash of your password and a 20 character long random string.
For those of you who that makes no sense to, it means all that is stored is something like 1055d3e698d289f2af8663725127bd4b....which cannot be reversed back into your password.

password is "The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy cog"

hahah I didn't even think of reversing their own example. Someone should post that in their forums.