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Vamp
05-26-2003, 04:31 PM
I bought an MX440 about 3 months ago... Was it a big mistake? I was upgrading over my onboard SIS, which was a piece of shit!

Can you people give me a list of games that defiently don't run at a playable speed with that card? Should I be looking for another upgrade? is an FX5600 good, how much does it cost? Does it perform alot less then the FX5800, or should I be looking for an ATI Radeon 9800 or 9700 or something? Also, do any of those cards come with Video IN features?

SOLDIER Cloud
05-26-2003, 10:31 PM
From all the hardware reviews and such (Tom's Hardware (http://www.tomshardware.com/)), the FX line was a big mistake. Nvidia is coming out with a new FX though, the 5900, which solves every problem people were complaining about (mainly the noise and slow performance and such :D). And recommendation would all be dependant on what you want to play I would assume... If you really want to stick to Nvidia you can go with GeForce 4 Ti 4200-4800SE or the GeForce FX 5900 (a LOT of $$ :/)... But you can make the jump to ATI and go with one of their new cards 9200, 9600, or 9800 series... The old 9500's beat the 9600's from what I've read and they're going to cut production of the 9500... so if you want it, grab it. I don't think the MX was horrible... just meant to be a budget card. Hoped this helped any, if at all :mellow:

aintgottime
05-26-2003, 10:39 PM
This too you guys might sound silly but whats wrong with the MX 400? I have a Geforce 2 MX 400 64mb g-card and I never have any problems running anything on it, so whats so bad about MX?

MagicNakor
05-26-2003, 11:02 PM
It's like a GeForce 2, really.

:ninja:

RGX
05-26-2003, 11:13 PM
I love my MX, it runs every graphic iv ever known at great speed and handles UT2003 and Max Payne along with enter the matrix at good FPS

SOLDIER Cloud
05-27-2003, 01:54 AM
Have you cranked up the detail and resolution though? :D

3RA1N1AC
05-27-2003, 06:01 AM
the only game i can think of that absolutely does not run on a GF4MX (420, 440, 460) is Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance, because it is a quickie conversion from Xbox which requires a DirectX 8 Nvidia card. it doesn't even work with ATI cards or any other brand, at least until an ATI compatibility patch is released.

as far as i know, just about all other recent pc games should be playable if you also have a cpu that's at least 1ghz and at least 512mb of system RAM. you may have to turn a lot of graphics frills/effects off, or turn the resolution down, but there are still ways to make the games run at a playable speed.

getting new games to run acceptably on a GF2MX (100, 200, 400) might be a bit more difficult.



as for Video In, when you are shopping for a video card you should look for one that is labelled as a "VIVO" (Video In, Video Out) model. both Nvidia and ATI produce those. ATI's Radeon All-In-Wonder cards feature their TV Wonder product (which you could buy separately for about 50 bucks) integrated onto the card, which goes beyond the standard VIVO concept by including TV tuning (i.e. you can plug your cable TV line into it and record programs on your computer like a TiVo).

Nightwolf
05-27-2003, 08:10 AM
Originally posted by 3RA1N1AC@27 May 2003 - 01:01
the only game i can think of that absolutely does not run on a GF4MX (420, 440, 460) is Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance, because it is a quickie conversion from Xbox which requires a DirectX 8 Nvidia card.
As far as I know, all Geforce4's are DirectX 8.1. Have you actually tried MGS 2 with one?

In answer to the original question, I believe all new games should work fine on your system - as long as you have a fast enough CPU and enough RAM installed. :)

3RA1N1AC
05-27-2003, 11:50 AM
due to "creative packaging" on Nvidia's part, the GF4MX is not actually a GF4. it's an extremely fast GF2MX chip on a newer card design, so that it performs like a high end GF2. but it does not include hardware support for DirectX 8.1 features such as pixel shading.

so, yeah... it was fairly controversial at the time, that when Nvidia released the GF4 Ti, they also released the low-end GF4MX which was actually a technological step backward from the GF3 even tho it had "GF4" in its name. unfortunately, to this very day, there has been a lot of confusion about what you are actually getting when you buy a GF4MX, because of the inappropriate name that Nvidia slapped on it.

globegate
05-28-2003, 01:13 AM
Try downloading the latest video card drivers from NVIDIA (http://www.nvidia.com) That normally gets the job done.

3RA1N1AC
05-28-2003, 09:23 AM
Originally posted by globegate@27 May 2003 - 17:13
Try downloading the latest video card drivers from NVIDIA (http://www.nvidia.com) That normally gets the job done.
spam. <_<

edit: btw, my bad... MGS2 has now received a patch which allows it to run on Radeon 8500 and higher. a work-around for a game that was designed to use Nvidia-specific features on Xbox. if they hadn&#39;t been so lazy, they would&#39;ve taken the time release a less sloppy PC conversion that uses instructions generic to all DirectX 8 video cards...

Mad old tory
05-28-2003, 10:50 AM
I have a g4mx 440 and the only time i tend to get performance problems is running gta vice city with kazaa. when a big explosion or similar happens it mite slow down for a cpl of secs but its barely noticeable. The g4mx is a good card and luckily mines got a good enuff heatsink tht it dsnt need a fan so its quiet too :)

wolfman10_2000
05-28-2003, 09:02 PM
yup its a very good, got my card about a month ago :D

scribblec
05-29-2003, 12:34 AM
i have a gf4 mx 420
built in to comp
and it has problems running motogp2
witj details up