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Mr JP Fugley
04-29-2007, 08:27 PM
I meant to ask you this but kept forgetting.

Can we get http://www.lamsey.co.uk/img/smilies/badabumdeesh.gif as a smillie.

Barbie said it was only admins that could do it.

SnnY
04-29-2007, 08:28 PM
Could we also have that 'whatever' one Cheese likes to use.

Mr. Mulder
04-29-2007, 08:30 PM
Could we also have that 'whatever' one Cheese likes to use.
/agreed.

tesco
04-29-2007, 08:31 PM
:badabumdeesh:

Well he's wrong, managers can do it too :snooty:


what's teh whatever one?

Mr JP Fugley
04-29-2007, 08:32 PM
:badabumdeesh:

Well he's wrong, managers can do it too :snooty:


what's teh whatever one?

Take it up with him, I just assume everything mods say must be true.

SnnY
04-29-2007, 08:34 PM
A man walks into a bar.

Ouch.

:badabumdeesh:

Mr JP Fugley
04-29-2007, 08:34 PM
Oh and just saw you added it, cheers for that.

Could you make it a shorter name tho'.

:drums: would be good. Just easier to remember and use.

Gripper
04-29-2007, 08:38 PM
What language do they speak in Cuba?
Cubic!

:badabumdeesh:

SnnY
04-29-2007, 08:39 PM
what's teh whatever one?

Found it with meh l33t search skillz.

http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/7130/27468549whateverjq8.jpg

Smilie it!

Proper Bo
04-29-2007, 08:40 PM
can we have that "i'll get me coat" one, too?

Infact, if you could just make some kind of thing that automatically posts it at the end of all of jp's posts, that'd be orsum.

Mr JP Fugley
04-29-2007, 08:42 PM
can we have that "i'll get me coat" one, too?

Infact, if you could just make some kind of thing that automatically posts it at the end of all of jp's posts, that'd be orsum.

:lol:

SnnY
04-29-2007, 08:43 PM
can we have that "i'll get me coat" one, too?

Infact, if you could just make some kind of thing that automatically posts it at the end of all of jp's posts, that'd be orsum.

Like, make it something that he signs off his posts with or something?

tesco
04-29-2007, 08:45 PM
kinda like a signature? :unsure:
that'd be hard like. :dabs:

Mr JP Fugley
04-29-2007, 08:49 PM
Woah, hold on there peoples, let's not be harassing the bald fat man.

That's just cheap shots, the easy target as it were.

Barbarossa
04-30-2007, 09:09 AM
I cringe at the term "manager". It sounds like you have to do something, rather than just be something. :mellow:

Snee
04-30-2007, 09:20 AM
Are you a manager now, then? :ghey:

:fix-new-posts-button-make-new-smilies-ban-the-invite-section:

Barbarossa
04-30-2007, 09:46 AM
Noooooo, admins are managers, mods are just caretakers :(


I'll never get asked to be a manager, you watch, skizo will be a manager before me :sadwalk:

Mr JP Fugley
04-30-2007, 05:55 PM
Is there really a manager well.

I thought Tesco was an admin but just called himself manager.

What's like the hierarchy.

Hairbautt
04-30-2007, 07:01 PM
Administrator > Manager > Moderator > BT Mod > Forum Star > News Poster > NZB Poster > Verified Poster > Community Reps > Members > n00bs

:D

Mr JP Fugley
04-30-2007, 09:02 PM
How do you work that one out, Henderson.

Shirley only people with powers would be involved in the hierarchy.

And also, does that mean that RealitY is in charge and Tesco is like his lieutenant.

Hairbautt
04-30-2007, 09:46 PM
How do you work that one out, Henderson.
See here:
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/9266/hierarchayeryqb6.png

Shirley only people with powers would be involved in the hierarchy.I have powers...:dry:

And also, does that mean that RealitY is in charge and Tesco is like his lieutenant.
No. They're both red. You see, it's color coded so even the simplest of minds can understand.

tesco
04-30-2007, 09:55 PM
How do you work that one out, Henderson.

Shirley only people with powers would be involved in the hierarchy.

And also, does that mean that RealitY is in charge and Tesco is like his lieutenant.both of us are 'managers' :blink:

Here's a little story/background...
RealitY and I were scared that, if the site gets taken down (this was at the time of a lot of torrent sites getting shut down, and we got paranoid :lol:), we could be sued, when we don't even own the website...
So we just thoguht that we'd leave the administrator title to rookiecrd1 (the owner) and we'd give ourselves a new group.
We then couldn't think of anyhtig good so I came up with site manager and reality changed it to manager. :idunno:
The idea is if the site was to get taken down only rookie's name is there under administrator. :P


Also manager technically has more privs than administrator. :P so hairbautt is wrong.

Hairbautt
04-30-2007, 09:58 PM
wtf that's harsh http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v383/Hairbautt/Smilies/LaughOutLoud.gif

Could FST really be taken down? :fear2: Flippin' NZB :dry:

tesco
04-30-2007, 10:11 PM
wtf that's harsh http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v383/Hairbautt/Smilies/LaughOutLoud.gif

Could FST really be taken down? :fear2: Flippin' NZB :dry:probly not. :idunno:

rookie agreed to it, so not harsh.;)

Mr JP Fugley
04-30-2007, 11:06 PM
How do you work that one out, Henderson.

Shirley only people with powers would be involved in the hierarchy.

And also, does that mean that RealitY is in charge and Tesco is like his lieutenant.both of us are 'managers' :blink:

Here's a little story/background...
RealitY and I were scared that, if the site gets taken down (this was at the time of a lot of torrent sites getting shut down, and we got paranoid :lol:), we could be sued, when we don't even own the website...
So we just thoguht that we'd leave the administrator title to rookiecrd1 (the owner) and we'd give ourselves a new group.
We then couldn't think of anyhtig good so I came up with site manager and reality changed it to manager. :idunno:
The idea is if the site was to get taken down only rookie's name is there under administrator. :P


Also manager technically has more privs than administrator. :P so hairbautt is wrong.

:lol:

Forgive me for pointing this out but the title you have means fuck all. It's your position and responsibility within the forum which matters. I suspect Rookie knows that.

He's not actually doing anything or making any decisions, so there's hardly a prima facie case against him.

Look up the phrases actus reus and mens rea. Those are the kind of important concepts you need to know.

True story.

tesco
04-30-2007, 11:19 PM
both of us are 'managers' :blink:

Here's a little story/background...
RealitY and I were scared that, if the site gets taken down (this was at the time of a lot of torrent sites getting shut down, and we got paranoid :lol:), we could be sued, when we don't even own the website...
So we just thoguht that we'd leave the administrator title to rookiecrd1 (the owner) and we'd give ourselves a new group.
We then couldn't think of anyhtig good so I came up with site manager and reality changed it to manager. :idunno:
The idea is if the site was to get taken down only rookie's name is there under administrator. :P


Also manager technically has more privs than administrator. :P so hairbautt is wrong.

:lol:

Forgive me for pointing this out but the title you have means fuck all. It's your position and responsibility within the forum which matters. I suspect Rookie knows that.

He's not actually doing anything or making any decisions, so there's hardly a prima facie case against him.

Look up the phrases actus reus and mens rea. Those are the kind of important concepts you need to know.

True story.
The actus reus — sometimes called the external elements of a crime — is the Latin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin) term for the "guilty act" which, when proved beyond a reasonable doubt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beyond_a_reasonable_doubt) in combination with the mens rea (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mens_rea), i.e., the "guilty mind", produces criminal liability (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liability) in common law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_law)-based criminal law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_law) jurisdictions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jurisdiction) Canada (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada), New Zealand (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand), England (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England), Scotland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland) and the United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States). In the United States, some crimes also require proof of an attendant circumstance (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attendant_circumstance).



I know the title means fuck-all. But if there's a chance it could save us then is it not worth it to try?

Anyway there's little chance the site would ever get shut down anyway, and if it was it wouldn't go straight to court to sue for millions.:ermm:

Skiz
05-01-2007, 01:49 AM
The actus reus — sometimes called the external elements of a crime — is the Latin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin) term for the "guilty act" which, when proved beyond a reasonable doubt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beyond_a_reasonable_doubt) in combination with the mens rea (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mens_rea), i.e., the "guilty mind", produces criminal liability (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liability) in common law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_law)-based criminal law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_law) jurisdictions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jurisdiction) Canada (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada), New Zealand (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand), England (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England), Scotland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland) and the United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States). In the United States, some crimes also require proof of an attendant circumstance (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attendant_circumstance).



I know the title means fuck-all. But if there's a chance it could save us then is it not worth it to try?

Anyway there's little chance the site would ever get shut down anyway, and if it was it wouldn't go straight to court to sue for millions.:ermm:

Surely there would be a cease and desist prior to pulling the plug and suing the one behind the button.

Most companies and organizations, even the RIAA, try to reach a mutual compromise before seeking costly litigation.

Even that might cause me to take a vacation from the forum. :whistling

Mr JP Fugley
05-01-2007, 08:15 AM
:lol:

Forgive me for pointing this out but the title you have means fuck all. It's your position and responsibility within the forum which matters. I suspect Rookie knows that.

He's not actually doing anything or making any decisions, so there's hardly a prima facie case against him.

Look up the phrases actus reus and mens rea. Those are the kind of important concepts you need to know.

True story.
The actus reus — sometimes called the external elements of a crime — is the Latin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin) term for the "guilty act" which, when proved beyond a reasonable doubt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beyond_a_reasonable_doubt) in combination with the mens rea (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mens_rea), i.e., the "guilty mind", produces criminal liability (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liability) in common law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_law)-based criminal law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_law) jurisdictions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jurisdiction) Canada (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada), New Zealand (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand), England (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England), Scotland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland) and the United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States). In the United States, some crimes also require proof of an attendant circumstance (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attendant_circumstance).



I know the title means fuck-all. But if there's a chance it could save us then is it not worth it to try?

Anyway there's little chance the site would ever get shut down anyway, and if it was it wouldn't go straight to court to sue for millions.:ermm:

No, when it means fuck all, it means fuck all. It's really that simple, call yourself the Grand Poobah if you want, it matters not one jot. What matters is what one does and what one's knowledge of any offence was. Basically, did you know you were doing something wrong and did you do it anyway.

Now Rookie, whilst owning the site, doesn't actually do anything. Doesn't post and here's the good bit, doesn't allow people to post things like nzb files. So, much as he owns the place he doesn't actually do anything. He doesn't do anything wrong, so he's in the clear. No actus reus, no crime and no prospect of being sued.

On the other hand, the people who are making the decisions to allow access to illicit copyright material, that's another story. The only thing left to prove is mens rea, did they know that they were doing something wrong. Well, it would be difficult to get into the position of being admin on such a board without knowing a good bit about the subject. Particularly if one's own posts demonstrated said knowledge.

The most interesting part of the board, evidence wise, would be "team chat". Where decisions are made and discussions recorded. That allied to board announcements and relative degrees of authority would form the basis of any case, civil or criminal. I would suspect civil, unless you are making some form of personal profit. Then you would really be fucked.

I assumed that you lot had thought that thro'.

Mr JP Fugley
05-01-2007, 08:23 AM
The actus reus — sometimes called the external elements of a crime — is the Latin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin) term for the "guilty act" which, when proved beyond a reasonable doubt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beyond_a_reasonable_doubt) in combination with the mens rea (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mens_rea), i.e., the "guilty mind", produces criminal liability (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liability) in common law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_law)-based criminal law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_law) jurisdictions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jurisdiction) Canada (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada), New Zealand (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand), England (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England), Scotland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland) and the United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States). In the United States, some crimes also require proof of an attendant circumstance (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attendant_circumstance).



I know the title means fuck-all. But if there's a chance it could save us then is it not worth it to try?

Anyway there's little chance the site would ever get shut down anyway, and if it was it wouldn't go straight to court to sue for millions.:ermm:

Surely there would be a cease and desist prior to pulling the plug and suing the one behind the button.

Most companies and organizations, even the RIAA, try to reach a mutual compromise before seeking costly litigation.

Even that might cause me to take a vacation from the forum. :whistling

For a private individual, yes.

However for one of the most prominent file sharing boards on the internet, why would you even think that.

Try to distinguish between one person downloading music files and a forum dedicated to downloading anything and assisting hundreds of people in doing it.

Which would you attack if you wanted to stop "file sharing". I know where I would start, it would include infiltrating said forums and finding out who was who. Who were the players, so to speak.

Barbarossa
05-01-2007, 08:40 AM
I'm just a caretaker ffs. :blink:

I would have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for those pesky kids :sly:

Gripper
05-01-2007, 08:40 AM
You one clever fella Mr JP,am now feeling very paranoid,glad I'm not a Playa.

Mr JP Fugley
05-01-2007, 10:46 AM
I'm just a caretaker ffs. :blink:

I would have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for those pesky kids :sly:

It's not the pesky kids I would be worried about. It's the pesky Policemen reading your posts, which you had assumed to be private. That's who you really want to be worried about.

Bizarrely, whilst downloading is a civil matter (getting sued), piracy is a criminal one. That includes assisting others to breach copyright. That's taken more seriously than the actual downloading itself.

FFS don't tell me this is news to anyone. we've all been here long enough, discussing these very things.

Mr JP Fugley
05-01-2007, 10:48 AM
You one clever fella Mr JP,am now feeling very paranoid,glad I'm not a Playa.

No need for you to be paranoid, you're like me, just some muppet posting pish on the internet.

Hairbautt
05-01-2007, 11:02 AM
Ahhhh, remove my orange name! :fear:

:Fuckit: I just post news.

Mr JP Fugley
05-01-2007, 11:05 AM
Ahhhh, remove my orange name! :fear:

:Fuckit: I just post news.

Presumably it's open source, so no problem there.

I don't think cutting and pasting words from other internet sites would be considered a significant thing to do, by anyone. Particularly when you also post a link to the source.

Barbarossa
05-01-2007, 01:14 PM
I'm just a caretaker ffs. :blink:

I would have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for those pesky kids :sly:

It's not the pesky kids I would be worried about. It's the pesky Policemen reading your posts, which you had assumed to be private. That's who you really want to be worried about.

Bizarrely, whilst downloading is a civil matter (getting sued), piracy is a criminal one. That includes assisting others to breach copyright. That's taken more seriously than the actual downloading itself.

FFS don't tell me this is news to anyone. we've all been here long enough, discussing these very things.

http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/7130/27468549whateverjq8.jpg

:mellow:

SnnY
05-01-2007, 01:54 PM
Cool, you got the smilie then.

:whatever:

Barbarossa
05-01-2007, 01:56 PM
Roffle, don't you look silly now

SnnY
05-01-2007, 01:57 PM
:whatever:

Skiz
05-09-2007, 02:18 PM
Could we also have that 'whatever' one Cheese likes to use.

This one isn't bad. Could be added too I guess.

A bit on the ghey side though. :unsure:


http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/2084/nonohs3.gif (http://imageshack.us)

Hairbautt
05-09-2007, 02:23 PM
homophobe

Skiz
05-09-2007, 02:23 PM
:fear: