Rap On The Way Out?

[MaxOverlord]

Opinions on whether or not y'all think rap is on its way out.
If yes give some time frame. What genre is on the way up?
Any old genre you'd like to see make a comeback?

[lee551]

definitely not on the way out. it'll always be played at parties and in clubs. everything has its time and place.

[St0ry]

I read somewhere that sales of rap albums have declined by about 50% since 2002 and is continuing to lose popularity. Personally I don't really like rap, pretty much every song is about the same thing and that gets boring.

I'd want to see trance become more popular in the US.

[4play]

Personally I don't really like rap, pretty much every song is about the same thing and that gets boring.

I'd want to see trance become more popular in the US.

do you not see the irony in the above statements.

[St0ry]

No, I don't.

If you've ever played Lumines and Lumines II for the PSP then you'd know what I mean. In trance, electronic music in general, lyrics are secondary to the beats, whereas rap is the opposite.

[killuminati96]

Rap has turned into pop music these days. It's all phoney with lame lyrics about bling, cars and women now. It used to have actual political & social messages in it etc. *sigh* I'd say real rap is dead and fake rap has taken over. It's all commercialised, corporate, bubblegum, pop-rap, garbage now. I only listen to 80's & 90's rap now. The 90's made some really good music.

I'd love to see Psychedelic Rock make a come back. I've really gotten obsessed with it these days. I'd also love to see hardcore Gangsta Rap come back like in the early 90's.

edit: i forgot.. BRING BACK G-FUNK!!! That's some of the best rap ever made and they stopped making it wtf? How can they stop making hot tracks like "Regulate"? The last g-funk release I can think of was Dr Dre's 2001 album back in 1999. R.I.P. to G-Funk it gave us great albums like The Chronic, All Eyez On Me, Doggystyle, 2001 and the Above the Rim soundtrack. It gave us tracks like Nothing But A G Thang, Dre Day, Real Muthaphuckkin G's, Still Dre, Gin & Juice, Regulate, Pour Out A Little Liquor, Who Am I (What's My Name), It Was A Good Day and the list goes on!!!

Now they use crappy beats like southern crunk which sucks. Bring back the WEST COAST!

[MaxOverlord]

Rap has turned into pop music these days. It's all phoney with lame lyrics about bling, cars and women now. It used to have actual political & social messages in it etc. *sigh* I'd say real rap is dead and fake rap has taken over. It's all commercialised, corporate, bubblegum, pop-rap, garbage now. I only listen to 80's & 90's rap now. The 90's made some really good music.

I'd love to see Psychedelic Rock make a come back. I've really gotten obsessed with it these days. I'd also love to see hardcore Gangsta Rap come back like in the early 90's.


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[brotherdoobie]

Personally I don't really like rap, pretty much every song is about the same thing and that gets boring.

I'd want to see trance become more popular in the US.

do you not see the irony in the above statements.

:glag: :glag:

-bd

[snowultra]

rap and hip hop, will never die in the black community here in the usa. as long people have something to dance to, that music will exist. some people just gotta dance

[Barbarossa]

The next big thing will be hyper-reggae-jazz-funk-fusion.

There'll be telly programmes and everything. Hyper-Reggae-Jazz-Funk-Fusion Idol will be created for the public to pick the new star performers. Simon Cowell will grow lurid green dreadlocks, smoke ganja, and be a really chilled out judge. :happy:

[cpt_azad]

On its way out? No. Should it be? Prob. not, as long as there is a demand it'll stay. And like people have said in this thread, as long as there are clubs and parties you're gonna have rap playing (give me metal anyday).

Doesnt affect me since I don't really care, I listen to anything, mostly metal, but anything nonetheless

edit: as for a genre that should become popular? DEFINITELY NOT METAL, if that ever became popular, us real metalheads are fucked, i dont want metal to ever become a fad, its my way of life lol

one genre i wouldn't mind coming back however is jazz (no, i did not just call jazz a fad), jazz is smooth as a mofo

[pencap]

I think that people like kool keith and dead prez should get more attention. rap for the most part is boring, but some musicians actually have talent and write amazing lyrics. Watch block party for some good rap.

mostly tho i listen to old indie like Archers of Loaf, and true indie was never really "in" so i guess it cant really go "out"

[Smith]

Raps just getting good. The whole dirty south movement is pretty crappy..but NY and Chicago is coming back..along with real talent.

[Skiz]

Raps just getting good. The whole dirty south movement is pretty crappy..but NY and Chicago is coming back..along with real talent.

That's definitely a regional opinion. I'm in Texas and that's all that rap fans listen to down here is H-town and NO rap styles.

[thegman24]

Before mass-culture started categorizing youth culture and current fashion trends in the minority community; rap or hip hop, was another way a young man or woman with no future could express themselves; and have a little fun and not get f'ing shot at the same time.

But just like punk, and metal, and R&B, lame (mostly white) hipsters and businessmen just had to take message out of the friggin' bottle.

Now the message is (owww yeah!! I'm bling bling, look at my rims, I'm rolling in b*tches and money!!)

Yeah, I would say certain rappers have sold out there culture, or at least the ones who promote the current group of cultural and stylist trends. (artists like The Roots, excluded, of course.)

#@#!#@!, I don't know, all I know is I love Ice-T, and Cube and NWA and Erik B and Rakim; but Tupac is dead and Biggie is dead... so what's their legacy. A bunch of sales figures for labels like Interscope; or is it Public Enemy and 'Fight The Power!!!' The later is the one I pick.

[MaxOverlord]

edit: as for a genre that should become popular? DEFINITELY NOT METAL, if that ever became popular, us real metalheads are fucked, i dont want metal to ever become a fad, its my way of life lol

one genre i wouldn't mind coming back however is jazz (no, i did not just call jazz a fad), jazz is smooth as a mofo


I don't think you have to worry about metal becoming a fad although glam metal was the 80's style,but I know that's not what you meant.
Metal will Always be around,as it should be.
I don't think jazz will ever be on the top of the pop charts.
I think it's a little too hard to dance to and most of the arrangements are too complicated for the 14,15,and 16 year olds who drive the pop market.
Anyway I'd love to see Metal rule the F*@#ing world!!
But I know what you mean about it becoming cheesy then and all the faggy copy cat bands who think because they look metal and saturate with distortion that they are metal.
I think metal is definitely about attitude more than anything else.

[BassJunkie]

Na m8...... not a chance. Hip Hop for life!

[MaxOverlord]

Na m8...... not a chance. Hip Hop for life!

Hip Hop may be in your life forever,but as far as being the dominant force in music its time is coming to an end.
This is simply how the Biz works.
Everything,including music, works in cycles.
Rap has been on top for quite a while now.
It's time for a new cycle.
Can't avoid history.....it is what it is.

[Peerzy]

On its way out? No. Should it be? Prob. not, as long as there is a demand it'll stay. And like people have said in this thread, as long as there are clubs and parties you're gonna have rap playing (give me metal anyday).

Doesnt affect me since I don't really care, I listen to anything, mostly metal, but anything nonetheless

edit: as for a genre that should become popular? DEFINITELY NOT METAL, if that ever became popular, us real metalheads are fucked, i dont want metal to ever become a fad, its my way of life lol

one genre i wouldn't mind coming back however is jazz (no, i did not just call jazz a fad), jazz is smooth as a mofo

So you would stop listening to Metal music if it became popular, even if the quality stayed the same? Seems a bit stupid to only listen to music that other people don't.

I've been a massive fan of many bands before they became famous and haven't stopped listening to them just because they have become world famous.

I'd say thats just you trying to put out an image that you arn't 'scene' and into 'popular' music and trying to be 'different'.

[1337shiznit]

Like most genres, rap may undergo a partial renaissance once it goes back underground.

Trance is another genre that needs to go back underground - the 'popular' stuff that is labeled 'trance' is pure crap.

[Adster]

god I hope so



On its way out? No. Should it be? Prob. not, as long as there is a demand it'll stay. And like people have said in this thread, as long as there are clubs and parties you're gonna have rap playing (give me metal anyday).

Doesnt affect me since I don't really care, I listen to anything, mostly metal, but anything nonetheless

edit: as for a genre that should become popular? DEFINITELY NOT METAL, if that ever became popular, us real metalheads are fucked, i dont want metal to ever become a fad, its my way of life lol

one genre i wouldn't mind coming back however is jazz (no, i did not just call jazz a fad), jazz is smooth as a mofo

So you would stop listening to Metal music if it became popular, even if the quality stayed the same? Seems a bit stupid to only listen to music that other people don't.

I've been a massive fan of many bands before they became famous and haven't stopped listening to them just because they have become world famous.

I'd say thats just you trying to put out an image that you arn't 'scene' and into 'popular' music and trying to be 'different'.

thats exactly right of the music is still the same then Id keep istening if it just goes all out plain out shit someone like Jewel for example

lots of people stopped liking Silverchair I didnt because each album is difference

you cant win both ways I guess people complain if you sound the same every album (IE Nickleback) yet when you change your sound for another album OMG its shit that sucks its not the same!

[Busyman™]

No, I don't.

If you've ever played Lumines and Lumines II for the PSP then you'd know what I mean. In trance, electronic music in general, lyrics are secondary to the beats, whereas rap is the opposite.

You are sorta wrong. In hip-hop, a rapper can rap about Jahoogadoo-ball-all-ass-out but if the music and beats are noice it'll sell. If anything, it should have a great hook or chorus.

Throw Some D's (http://mfile.akamai.com/3171/wm2/muze.download.akamai.com/2890/us/uswm2/776/972776_1_04.asx?obj=v70314)

If rap is on it's way out, it's because white people aren't buying as much as they used to and/or songs are being illegally downloaded unlike before.

There is no other genre that hits in the clubs like hip-hop.

There is no better music to dance to other than hip-hop.

Jazz is great but it's more easy listening.

Metal is shit to dance to unless you are jumping around aimlessly in a mosh pit.

Country used to be the top music genre and tbh, it actually is kinda cool dance to (I remember doing the Boot Scoot and the Tush Push back in '92,'93ish). It will be hard for country to get back on top though.

If rap has had a decline in sales, but no other genre has surpassed it, then that would mean thet there is an overall decline in record sales and that rap is not on it's way out.

[MaxOverlord]

No, I don't.

If you've ever played Lumines and Lumines II for the PSP then you'd know what I mean. In trance, electronic music in general, lyrics are secondary to the beats, whereas rap is the opposite.

You are sorta wrong. In hip-hop, a rapper can rap about Jahoogadoo-ball-all-ass-out but if the music and beats are noice it'll sell. If anything, it should have a great hook or chorus.

Throw Some D's (http://mfile.akamai.com/3171/wm2/muze.download.akamai.com/2890/us/uswm2/776/972776_1_04.asx?obj=v70314)

If rap is on it's way out, it's because white people aren't buying as much as they used to and/or songs are being illegally downloaded unlike before.

There is no other genre that hits in the clubs like hip-hop.

There is no better music to dance to other than hip-hop.

Jazz is great but it's more easy listening.

Metal is shit to dance to unless you are jumping around aimlessly in a mosh pit.

Country used to be the top music genre and tbh, it actually is kinda cool dance to (I remember doing the Boot Scoot and the Tush Push back in '92,'93ish). It will be hard for country to get back on top though.

If rap has had a decline in sales, but no other genre has surpassed it, then that would mean thet there is an overall decline in record sales and that rap is not on it's way out.

My original question was rooted in the fact that popular music is cyclical. For example in the 80's it was Glam Metal..Poison,Ratt,Warrant and so on. In the 90's it was Grundge...Nirvana,Soundgarden,Pearl Jam etc. Late 90's there was the Boy Bands...N'Sync..98 Degrees...Back Street Boys. This is a somewhat simplified idea but you get the point.

Somewhere along that route Rap took over the "throne". History has proven that no music stays on top for more than say...a decade. Rap has been the "big dog" for close to 10 years now. Do you think BusyMan that Rap is on the way out in that respect? If so any comments on what might be the "big dog" next?