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Greatadmin
05-15-2007, 12:32 PM
http://www.zeropaid.com/news/upload/images/thumb/8758.jpgToday is the official deadline for compliance with the FCC's new interpretation of the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act(CALEA).

Cable modem companies, DSL providers, broadband over powerline, satellite internet companies and even some universities all have until the end of today to ensure "...the ability of law enforcement agencies to conduct electronic surveillance by requiring that telecommunications carriers and manufacturers of telecommunications equipment modify and design their equipment, facilities, and services to ensure that they have the necessary surveillance capabilities."

The Justice Department began lobbying the FCC in 2002 to reinterpret the law as applying to the internet as well and last June a divided federal appeals court upheld the expansion 2-1.

Basically, this means that starting today the FBI will have the ability to wiretap your internet connection, and means that "Common carriers, facilities-based broadband Internet access providers, and providers of interconnected Voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) service..." must all now have incorporated into their networks the ability for law enforcement agencies to snoop on those for which they have a court ordered warrant.

It's been pointed out however, that even though it may not necessarily be easier to get a warrant and eavesdrop on somebody, the temptation to do so and avoid real gumshoe detective work will be high. Instead of having to really investigate what a person is up to, they may choose to just try and take a look at what they're doing instead.

Also, what will eventually happen I think is that the RIAA and the MPAA will try to petition courts to snoop on suspected file-sharers and gather intelligence and incriminating information with which to build a case against them.

I mean look how they were able to get so many congressman on board with the whole crackdown on colleges and universities, invoking phrases like "file-trafficking" and warning against job layoffs and unemployment due to losses from piracy. I mean if a law is being broken who's to say which ones they will or will not enforce? I think its only a matter of time.

No longer will ISPs be able to claim that it just doesn't have the means to assist copyright holders in determining who has been uploading content illegally, for now they will be able to monitor an IP address and all the traffic that it's responsible for on the network.

It also means that the govt will now have the ability to monitor for other illegal activity, like buying prescription drugs from Canada, browsing and purchasing drug paraphanalia like bongs, pipes, etc., or perhaps even forums or chatrooms of leftist or other radical organizations.

After today the internet will forever be under the watchful eye of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and you can rest assured that corporations and other private entities will do in everything in their power to use this resource for their own ends.

:source: Source: http://www.zeropaid.com/news/8758/Tomorrow+the+FBI+will+be+able+to+wiretap+all+internet+users

S!X
05-15-2007, 09:58 PM
Nice..

tree_for
05-15-2007, 11:42 PM
damn it man!!! where is my privacY?

thx for the read!!

mbucari1
05-16-2007, 05:52 AM
Shit, this clenches it, I'm leaving the country. I't not fear of being found out as a file sharer, I am just SICK AND FUCKING TIRED of this government continually and systematically removing our liberties and trampling the constitution. And what's worse is that the pussies of the nation put up with it in the name "Security". People in this country are complete dumbasses. They will continually give up their freedoms HAPPILY as long as they can be told that their safe. This is no different than a mobster extorting money from poor shop owners in exchange for "protection".

Darth Sushi
05-16-2007, 06:05 AM
Thank God I left the good old U.S. of A.

MaxOverlord
05-16-2007, 06:33 AM
http://www.zeropaid.com/news/upload/images/thumb/8758.jpgToday is the official deadline for compliance with the FCC's new interpretation of the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act(CALEA).

Cable modem companies, DSL providers, broadband over powerline, satellite internet companies and even some universities all have until the end of today to ensure "...the ability of law enforcement agencies to conduct electronic surveillance by requiring that telecommunications carriers and manufacturers of telecommunications equipment modify and design their equipment, facilities, and services to ensure that they have the necessary surveillance capabilities."

The Justice Department began lobbying the FCC in 2002 to reinterpret the law as applying to the internet as well and last June a divided federal appeals court upheld the expansion 2-1.

Basically, this means that starting today the FBI will have the ability to wiretap your internet connection, and means that "Common carriers, facilities-based broadband Internet access providers, and providers of interconnected Voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) service..." must all now have incorporated into their networks the ability for law enforcement agencies to snoop on those for which they have a court ordered warrant.

It's been pointed out however, that even though it may not necessarily be easier to get a warrant and eavesdrop on somebody, the temptation to do so and avoid real gumshoe detective work will be high. Instead of having to really investigate what a person is up to, they may choose to just try and take a look at what they're doing instead.

Also, what will eventually happen I think is that the RIAA and the MPAA will try to petition courts to snoop on suspected file-sharers and gather intelligence and incriminating information with which to build a case against them.

I mean look how they were able to get so many congressman on board with the whole crackdown on colleges and universities, invoking phrases like "file-trafficking" and warning against job layoffs and unemployment due to losses from piracy. I mean if a law is being broken who's to say which ones they will or will not enforce? I think its only a matter of time.

No longer will ISPs be able to claim that it just doesn't have the means to assist copyright holders in determining who has been uploading content illegally, for now they will be able to monitor an IP address and all the traffic that it's responsible for on the network.

It also means that the govt will now have the ability to monitor for other illegal activity, like buying prescription drugs from Canada, browsing and purchasing drug paraphanalia like bongs, pipes, etc., or perhaps even forums or chatrooms of leftist or other radical organizations.

After today the internet will forever be under the watchful eye of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and you can rest assured that corporations and other private entities will do in everything in their power to use this resource for their own ends.

:source: Source: http://www.zeropaid.com/news/8758/Tomorrow+the+FBI+will+be+able+to+wiretap+all+internet+users
Funny how the "leftists" got thrown in there. Does that include Hillary and Obama?

maverick_andy
05-16-2007, 06:38 AM
may i know is this applicable to US only ??

Darth Sushi
05-16-2007, 06:52 AM
may i know is this applicable to US only ??

The FBI is strictly a domestic entity. But that doesn't mean they're not looking beyond U.S. boarders.

S!X
05-16-2007, 07:50 AM
may i know is this applicable to US only ??

The FBI is strictly a domestic entity. But that doesn't mean they're not looking beyond U.S. boarders.

I think the Americans need to focus on more important issues then what ppl are downloading. :pinch: :wacko:

Darth Sushi
05-16-2007, 08:00 AM
The FBI is strictly a domestic entity. But that doesn't mean they're not looking beyond U.S. boarders.

I think the Americans need to focus on more important issues then what ppl are downloading. :pinch: :wacko:

Point taken. The U.S. puts more ppl in jail per capita than any other country. I know we don't have the room for copyright pirates. Many inmates are released early and paroled just to make room.

Greatadmin
05-16-2007, 10:01 AM
Hey if they catch us all....Look on the bright side we will all be together....one big happy family !!! Maybe i can try out the prison break thing...lol...

F*CK FBI...Man they cant hold us all in....We have the POWER.:01:

Hairbautt
05-16-2007, 01:44 PM
"Anyone who trades liberty for security deserves neither liberty nor security."

Benjamin Franklin (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/b/benjaminfr384732.html)

This is Amerika, by the way, it's not a free country, it's a democracy.

thewizeard
05-16-2007, 02:33 PM
Then you will have to look toward the Netherlands for secure hosting.

mbucari1
05-16-2007, 11:59 PM
"Anyone who trades liberty for security deserves neither liberty nor security."

Benjamin Franklin (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/b/benjaminfr384732.html)

This is Amerika, by the way, it's not a free country, it's a democracy.
got one part right, we are not a "Free" country, but we are also not a "democracy". We are a republic ;)


So does anyone know if this is on a hardware level or a software/firmware level?

Hairbautt
05-17-2007, 12:32 AM
got one part right, we are not a "Free" country, but we are also not a "democracy". We are a republic ;)
Post the difference.;)

mbucari1
05-20-2007, 02:00 AM
got one part right, we are not a "Free" country, but we are also not a "democracy". We are a republic ;)
Post the difference.;)A Republic is representative government ruled by law (the Constitution). A democracy is direct government ruled by the majority (mob rule)

Fibo
05-20-2007, 03:56 PM
Wow they Fk'ed us good this time.
Isn't their some kind of Govt. group to appeal this type of sh*t. I thought people in the US were supposed to have some kind of privacy.

I dont think there can be anyway around this.(Not that I Know Alot About This Though). It seems like all they have to do now is just create some kind of program to monitor the DL/UL speeds of consumers, and once you pass that max. BHAM!!! You get that letter home saying your being fined.

Wow this sux.

RIFKinator
05-20-2007, 05:20 PM
sigh... not cool :/

RTFM
05-20-2007, 09:37 PM
Wow they Fk'ed us good this time.
Isn't their some kind of Govt. group to appeal this type of sh*t. I thought people in the US were supposed to have some kind of privacy.

U.S. citizens are slowly losing their privacy. :(

It sickens me to see to see people trading civil liberties for so-called "security." What's even worse is when people say that they have nothing to hide, so the government should be allowed to monitor such activity.

RainRoofer
05-20-2007, 10:46 PM
You live in the most developed country in the world, well pay for consequences :)
And I doubt this thing will happen.

mbucari1
05-21-2007, 02:20 AM
You live in the most developed country in the world, well pay for consequences :)
And I doubt this thing will happen.I doubt very much that I will get caught, but that doesn't mean that I'm careless. I have stopped the majority of home downloads and have started downloading bittorrent through seedbox then to pc from seedbox. Since the box isn't in the us, the FBI has no jurisdiction.