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jbones
06-10-2007, 09:42 PM
I am trying to find out information on specific laws and what really is and isn't illegal.

As far as I know, downloading music/movies/etc.....isn't illegal, because I don't think anyone has ever been CRIMINALLY PROSECUTED for downloading music.

People have gone though CIVIL lawsuits....but that is far different from Illegal and having a criminal record. What is criminal and what is not?

Can anyone provide specific links to sources that can clear this up.

Cause as far as I know, a person can get in NO trouble for downloading.......a person can get in SOME TROUBLE/CIVIL for uploading...............and a person can only get in CRIMINAL TROUBLE for profiting off distributing.

Can someone who knows about this stuff, point me in the right direction.......it is hard to find info cause all that is out there is ILLEGAL.....which I am pretty sure is just a PR move by the big companies.

Broken
06-10-2007, 11:53 PM
If you are in the US downloading alone is called, "Conspiracy To Commit Criminal Copyright Infringement" and it is a felony.

The MPAA/RIAA can not charge you with this, they are limited to Civil law. The charge of "Conspiracy To Commit Criminal Copyright Infringement" falls under criminal law and for the most part is filed by the FBI. These charges are almost completely limited to those in the upper levels of the world of internet piracy.

jbones
06-11-2007, 03:00 PM
I googled "Conspiracy To Commit Criminal Copyright Infringement" and it appears to be something that the FBI charges people with who are involved in large organizations or distribution rings. I don't think it applies to a home user who is downloading the newest Nine Inch Nails album for their personal use.

For example, it appears that several people were charged by the FBI because they had over 25,000 copies of cds of music/movies and it was obvious that they had intent to distribute them.

Another group was charged because they were knowingly running a server and hosting a site that allowed hundreds of thousands of people to download copyrighted material.

So I don't think "Conspiracy To Commit Criminal Copyright Infringement" could at all apply to someone who is downloading........it would be very hard to prove some kind of Criminal Intent (where there is none) against a home user who downloads just for personal use.

cgingrich
06-12-2007, 10:43 PM
Basically as long as you are just a casual downloader you SHOULD be fine. It is of course illegal however the gov. likes to make "examples" out of people and those are the cases you see in the news. They do it to try to sway people from doing it. In reality if they went after everyone who illegally downloads....well, everyone except my grandma would be facing some heavy fines.

Do it responsibly.....

additionally, depending on your ISP, excessive downloading can bring you up on their radar....that is more common.

xbawksz
06-17-2007, 01:54 PM
The real question is...

Who cares? :D

WHRST
07-08-2007, 07:16 AM
The real question is...

Who cares? :D

thats true

PabloEscobar
07-08-2007, 09:48 AM
:d

Pzero
07-08-2007, 02:01 PM
Almost guaranteed what your downloading is illegal.

BusBoy
07-09-2007, 06:59 PM
it's still safer to turn off your p2p programs when you're not actively using them . . .

Agent_Sof
07-09-2007, 10:28 PM
Well, if you ever did get into any trouble all you would have to do is go out to the store and buy what ever you downloaded

One Statement:
"The links are provided solely by this site's users. These BitTorrent files are meant for the distribution of backup files. By downloading the BitTorrent file, you are claiming that you own the original file."

Works with just about anything but movies still in theaters, so you may want to stay away from them.

KevinGarnet
07-12-2007, 03:43 PM
almost all downloadings which you download are illegal like someone said.. but people nowadays don't think about criminal.. so don't care about illegal downloads..

nyx12
07-27-2007, 06:27 AM
I agree that hardly anyone cares about downloading stuff illegally

sangos
08-03-2007, 11:44 PM
u dont pay for the people who done that thing and put efforts in it....

cuz they worked very hard to come up with this stuff and gone to studios to make alive so........

so it is illegal !!!

but as "xbawksz (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/../member.php?u=136354)" and "WHRST (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/../member.php?u=103635)"

who cares ??

fantasyx72
08-09-2007, 02:34 PM
Man this is what i got to say "who the hell cares"if its on the internet its free and if it a damn good item ill go out and buy it to support but after no one can stop me from downloading they would have to close the world wide web(people think there funny put a movie out and on the commercial put the best scenes they can find and when you go watch it in the movies it sucks)

munaaf
08-21-2007, 09:52 AM
Yes it is illegal well basically what you download is illegal, if it is copyrighted then it is illegal.

But who really cares the chances of being prosecuted is about zero to none.

Also the only way us downloaders can continue to support the people who make the music films etc is to not inform n00bz how to download so they go buy them and thus making the company have money to make more with.....

shizzer
08-22-2007, 03:13 AM
if you guys are seriously worried about it then just get peer guardian, it blocks ips from accessing your computer, and another thing, who cares.

fook3d
08-22-2007, 09:51 AM
Its only illegal if you get caught, Until caught they have no proof to define it as illegal ;)

berry89
08-23-2007, 10:47 AM
The real question is...

Who cares? :D

i think so :rolleyes:

ramsay0
08-25-2007, 01:50 AM
Has anyone ever heard of access underground?? If you have what do you know about it??

AmpeD
08-25-2007, 03:40 AM
if you guys are seriously worried about it then just get peer guardian, it blocks ips from accessing your computer, and another thing, who cares.
this software is worthless

GoldStoNe
01-24-2008, 02:32 AM
Downloading per se is not illegal but downloading copyright materials without the permission of the copyright owner is, that is depending on the laws your country have. Some countries treat and punish copyright infringement as a criminal offense. Legality is one thing, enforcement is another.

In some some countries, like where I am, the government does not run after file sharers (as of the moment) but they conduct raid of pirated discs. Even if the government would run after file downloaders, there are many of them. Chances are only a handful will be prosecuted just to set an example.