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shutdk
06-18-2007, 10:06 AM
Like DVDRips.. Can only find the newest in TL, TD, RevolutionTT, ScT, FTN..
And Karagarga is not scene releases. And can't find them in Goem either.
I can find some in prublic trackers but with very bad speeds.

So does anyone know a good tracker like that?

berry89
06-18-2007, 10:36 AM
hmm yeah that good idea, but for old scene you know where to go :). go to public tracker.

te00
06-18-2007, 10:40 AM
TL is giving some pack/memories pack.Maybe u could request a movie,and it could be included in a forthcoming pack.

berry89
06-18-2007, 10:55 AM
yeah that good idea too, request can be used too to get old release or reseed :happy: . nothing is easy in this life my friend. no tracker will give you old scene release with max speed.

shutdk
06-18-2007, 10:58 AM
In TL I can only request 7 days or less old scene releases.

Pluto
06-18-2007, 11:13 AM
SCN occassional has some old scene releases.

berry89
06-18-2007, 11:22 AM
yep scn may help, also sct pack may help you to get old scene for example the 100 imdb movies more than 100 gb, but just download what you want.

shutdk
06-18-2007, 11:25 AM
SCN don't have very much.. And I already have the movies included in ScT top 100. I need some that can't be found in the trackers I mention.

JA
06-18-2007, 11:29 AM
I think you need one of those huge FTP boards that have around TB'z of old crap...

berry89
06-18-2007, 11:30 AM
with old you mean 4-6 years old scene?:happy: hehe then we should let born new tracker called www.oldscene.org . but i suggest try also demonoid,bitsoup....

Something Else
06-18-2007, 11:39 AM
Emule also carries most old Scene releases.

I presume the DVDrips you are looking for are of commercial movies???

shutdk
06-18-2007, 11:43 AM
Commercial movies?
Yes they are known movies..
Can find them all on Nforce.

sweed
06-18-2007, 11:58 AM
try requesting those movies at FSC ...

Something Else
06-18-2007, 12:00 PM
TopHos is pretty good for those too..........

Night0wl
06-18-2007, 12:03 PM
SITR sometimes works as well. Just use request system there... although I didn't have much luck with mine :(

Pilgrim22
06-18-2007, 12:08 PM
I have always found www.ilovetorrents.com (http://www.ilovetorrents.com) to be good for older scene releases. I f they are not on tracker, all you need to do is request them. I have never been let down yet.

shutdk
06-18-2007, 12:18 PM
try requesting those movies at FSC ...

Where is their request form?


TopHos is pretty good for those too..........

Do they have invite system?


SITR sometimes works as well. Just use request system there... although I didn't have much luck with mine :(

Ok.. will try their. Thanks


I have always found www.ilovetorrents.com (http://www.ilovetorrents.com) to be good for older scene releases. I f they are not on tracker, all you need to do is request them. I have never been let down yet.

Ok. I will try their. Thanks.

zoeygirly
06-18-2007, 12:32 PM
You might want to try araditracker.com they have some older stuff there

shutdk
06-18-2007, 12:54 PM
You might want to try araditracker.com they have some older stuff there

Isn't that middle east stuff only?

Actor
06-18-2007, 12:55 PM
Like DVDRips.. Can only find the newest in TL, TD, RevolutionTT, ScT, FTN..
And Karagarga is not scene releases. And can't find them in Goem either.
I can find some in prublic trackers but with very bad speeds.

So does anyone know a good tracker like that?

I have been looking for a site that has old scene releases still in RAR format for years. Currently there isn't one. The closest is probably Torrent-Damage, which has began uploading the odd release every couple of days:).

Ivanov
06-18-2007, 01:14 PM
bitsoup.org and tracker.tbkresources.org - u can make request there
zamunda.net and arenabg.com have a lot of old movies
bgnova.org - too, but it's public tracker

berry89
06-18-2007, 01:29 PM
old movies is in everywhere, the problem is getting them at max speed.

fstrulz
06-18-2007, 01:47 PM
The best and my fav trackers for old DVDR movies from the 80's, 90's, 2000's are:

Pisexy and TheDVDClub

The speeds are OK. I usually finish downloading a movie in 1 day.

silvi
06-18-2007, 02:13 PM
rapidshare
rapidshare has almost everything + full speed

shutdk
06-18-2007, 02:15 PM
But ain't a search funtion, is there?

silvi
06-18-2007, 02:18 PM
no but it is really easy to find links in the net
and there are sites and forums that store
rapidshare links, and you can search links in those sites

menkää_vittuun
06-18-2007, 02:54 PM
The best and my fav trackers for old DVDR movies from the 80's, 90's, 2000's are:

Pisexy and TheDVDClub

The speeds are OK. I usually finish downloading a movie in 1 day.


have you tried swebits or swdvdr?

shutdk
06-18-2007, 02:55 PM
Yeah.. But I need xVID's.. Not DVDs

fstrulz
06-18-2007, 02:57 PM
menkää_vittuun...

I download mainly NTSC. So, if I can't find a movie in that version I just download the PAL version in SweBits or PowerBits. :)

Xtremist
06-18-2007, 03:06 PM
U can get almost all old movies on Rapidshare.U just got to join some warez forum.

finnlugg
06-18-2007, 03:13 PM
try cinemtic and demonoid. Swedvdr also have much old releases

mIRC
06-18-2007, 04:32 PM
Demonoid

Melvinmeow
06-18-2007, 09:11 PM
Maybe if you mentioned the files you were looking for exactly people could refer you to specific sites that have them??

Ive seen many threads here where someone posted what they were looking for and everyone tossed in bits and peices to get the items in the list found ;)

saulin
06-18-2007, 09:45 PM
Like DVDRips.. Can only find the newest in TL, TD, RevolutionTT, ScT, FTN..
And Karagarga is not scene releases. And can't find them in Goem either.
I can find some in prublic trackers but with very bad speeds.

So does anyone know a good tracker like that?

SweDVR
Norbits

You can find older stuff but nothing beats the newsgroups

groggy
06-18-2007, 10:12 PM
torrents are crap for old scene releases, get newsgroups, hundreds of older releases on them right now

shutdk
06-19-2007, 02:10 PM
Those are just some of what I need (will edit the list when I find them)
If anyone knows where I can find them, please tell me.

Scenereleases:
Paradise.Found.2003.DVDRiP.SVCD-UMS
Taking.Lives.UNRATED.DVDRiP.XviD-DVL
Behind.The.Red.Door.2002.STV.DVDRiP.XviD-HLS
Phone.Booth.2002.DVDRiP.XviD-HLS
To.End.All.Wars.2001.LiMiTED.WS.DVDRiP-XviD-DoNE
Article.99.1992.DVDRiP.XviD-VH-PROD
Bright.Lights.Big.City.1988.DVDRiP.XviD-VH-PROD
Crazy.Moon.1986.LiMiTED.DVDRiP.XviD-BNU
Stand.By.Me.1986.WS.SE.DVDRiP.SVCD-KuDoS

Scenerelease doesn't excist:
Cowboy Up
Dead Heat
Picking Up the Pieces
The Right Temptation
Woman Wanted
Beat
Desert Saints
Ground Control
Break Up
A soldier's sweetheart
Truth or Consequences, N.M
The Last Days of Frankie the Fly
Eye for an Eye
Hourglass
Teresa's Tattoo
Chicago Joe and the Showgirl
Flashback
Renegades
1969
The Killing Time
Promised Land
The bad boy
Max Dugan Returns

Night0wl
06-19-2007, 03:29 PM
If you don't need the proper of A Time To Kill you can find it on ScT

shutdk
06-19-2007, 03:34 PM
If you don't need the proper of A Time To Kill you can find it on ScT

Can't find it there.

sniper06
06-19-2007, 03:39 PM
You might want to try araditracker.com they have some older stuff there

Isn't that middle east stuff only?



lol:lol: nope its one of the best sites around imo

redMonster
06-19-2007, 03:42 PM
http://www.scenetorrents.org/details.php?id=17375

See number 2 in the description.

A.Time.To.Kill.1996.DVDRip.XViD.iNT-JoLLyRoGeR

Tokeman
06-19-2007, 03:56 PM
hate to say it, but newsgroups are the way to go for old scene. You can request from lots of diff places, usually irc. I have requested quite a few things, usually posted within a week. Before you go off about not wanting to pay, a lot of isp's offer limited (i get 1 gb per month per email address) access to their news servers (mine uses giganews)

shutdk
06-19-2007, 04:08 PM
redmonster > Thanks.

trad3r > Thanks for the info, but my ISP have no newsgroups included and i'm not gonna pay2leech.
I'm a poor man ;)

Melvinmeow
06-19-2007, 04:18 PM
I have these:
A.Time.To.Kill.1996.DVDRip.XViD.iNT-JoLLyRoGeR
Stand.By.Me.1986.DVDRip.XviD.iNT-420RipZ
Beat.Street.1984.iNT.DVDRip.XVID-vRs
(You meantioned beat but I didnt find Beat on IMDB.)


Most of the stuff you meantioned is eithe way ancient or not released on the scene at all.

Tokeman
06-19-2007, 04:44 PM
I was able to find a few things by requesting on WB.
Last thing I requested was a very old movie, and was never released to scene. Took 2 weeks for it to be filled.

Any site that lets all members upload will be a great place to request old/non scene rls'

shutdk
06-19-2007, 04:54 PM
I have these:
A.Time.To.Kill.1996.DVDRip.XViD.iNT-JoLLyRoGeR
Stand.By.Me.1986.DVDRip.XviD.iNT-420RipZ
Beat.Street.1984.iNT.DVDRip.XVID-vRs
(You meantioned beat but I didnt find Beat on IMDB.)


Most of the stuff you meantioned is eithe way ancient or not released on the scene at all.

I got "Time To Kill" from ScT.
But stand by me would be great, but how do I get that from you? :)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0211941/

Found those on Nforce:

Paradise.Found.2003.DVDRiP.SVCD-UMS
http://nforce.nl/index.php?switchto=nfos&menu=quicknav&item=viewnfo&id=45098

Taking.Lives.UNRATED.DVDRiP.XviD-DVL
http://nforce.nl/index.php?switchto=nfos&menu=quicknav&item=viewnfo&id=72991

Behind.The.Red.Door.2002.STV.DVDRiP.XviD-HLS
http://nforce.nl/index.php?switchto=nfos&menu=quicknav&item=viewnfo&id=22760

Phone.Booth.2002.DVDRiP.XviD-HLS
http://nforce.nl/index.php?switchto=nfos&menu=quicknav&item=viewnfo&id=30706

To.End.All.Wars.2001.LiMiTED.WS.DVDRiP-XviD-DoNE
http://nforce.nl/index.php?switchto=nfos&menu=quicknav&item=viewnfo&id=69137

Article.99.1992.DVDRiP.XviD-VH-PROD
http://nforce.nl/index.php?switchto=nfos&menu=quicknav&item=viewnfo&id=43337

Bright.Lights.Big.City.1988.DVDRiP.XviD-VH-PROD
http://nforce.nl/index.php?switchto=nfos&menu=quicknav&item=viewnfo&id=39470

Crazy.Moon.1986.LiMiTED.DVDRiP.XviD-BNU
http://nforce.nl/index.php?switchto=nfos&menu=quicknav&item=viewnfo&id=90100

Stand.By.Me.1986.WS.SE.DVDRiP.SVCD-KuDoS
http://nforce.nl/index.php?switchto=nfos&menu=quicknav&item=viewnfo&id=100565

I prefer them in XviD but as I see it some of them only exists in SVCD.


By the way.. If any of you can find rapidshare links for any of my requests I can take that too, tho I have accesss to a premium account.

redMonster
06-19-2007, 05:00 PM
He means to say that you can get it from tophos.org. He is the sysop of TopHos.

shutdk
06-19-2007, 05:03 PM
Oh yeah.. Of course ;)

0110
06-19-2007, 09:50 PM
bump but be polite with me :P

shutdk
06-19-2007, 10:58 PM
Oh.. A bump :)

I post a little update:

Those are just some of what I need (will edit the list when I find them)
If anyone knows where I can find them, please tell me.

Scenereleases:
Paradise.Found.2003.DVDRiP.SVCD-UMS
Taking.Lives.UNRATED.DVDRiP.XviD-DVL
Behind.The.Red.Door.2002.STV.DVDRiP.XviD-HLS
Phone.Booth.2002.DVDRiP.XviD-HLS
To.End.All.Wars.2001.LiMiTED.WS.DVDRiP-XviD-DoNE
Article.99.1992.DVDRiP.XviD-VH-PROD
Bright.Lights.Big.City.1988.DVDRiP.XviD-VH-PROD
Crazy.Moon.1986.LiMiTED.DVDRiP.XviD-BNU
Stand.By.Me.1986.WS.SE.DVDRiP.SVCD-KuDoS

Scenerelease doesn't excist:
Cowboy Up
Dead Heat
Picking Up the Pieces (in POTUK without seeds)
Woman Wanted
Desert Saints
Ground Control
Break Up
A soldier's sweetheart
Truth or Consequences, N.M
The Last Days of Frankie the Fly
Eye for an Eye
Hourglass
Teresa's Tattoo
Chicago Joe and the Showgirl
Flashback
Renegades
1969
The Killing Time
Promised Land
The bad boy
Max Dugan Returns

shutdk
06-20-2007, 07:34 AM
bump

shutdk
06-20-2007, 02:38 PM
bump

menkää_vittuun
06-20-2007, 04:21 PM
Have you checked sct? There are a lot of xvid-packs. Bad thing is that you have to check manually what these packs contains since the search won't work properly.

shutdk
06-20-2007, 05:46 PM
Yep.. I have checked those packs. Thanks anyway :)

shutdk
06-21-2007, 07:14 AM
Will bump it again ;)

sugam
06-21-2007, 08:54 AM
Paradise Found (2003) (http://www.find-bg.com/torrents/index.php?idx=details&id=1ec8886eca70bd24177aa563373eb44943c6cfa8)
http://www.find-bg.com/torrents/index.php?idx=details&id=1ec8886eca70bd24177aa563373eb44943c6cfa8 (http://www.find-bg.com/torrents/index.php?idx=details&id=1ec8886eca70bd24177aa563373eb44943c6cfa8)
Taking lives
http://zamunda.net/details.php?id=1292 (http://zamunda.net/details.php?id=1292)
Behind the red door
http://old.arenabg.com//details.php?id=25520 (http://old.arenabg.com/details.php?id=25520)
Phone booth
http://zamunda.net/details.php?id=74849 (http://zamunda.net/details.php?id=74849)
To end all wars
http://zamunda.net/details.php?id=55843 (http://zamunda.net/details.php?id=55843)
Article 99
http://zamunda.net/details.php?id=82921 (http://zamunda.net/details.php?id=82921)
Bright lights big city
http://btjunkie.org/torrent/Bright-Lights-Big-City-1988-English-Spoken-amp-Dut/4432323b0f34f0b242ef44e4b81fb5be5fe710f7d0e1 (http://btjunkie.org/torrent/Bright-Lights-Big-City-1988-English-Spoken-amp-Dut/4432323b0f34f0b242ef44e4b81fb5be5fe710f7d0e1)
Stand by me
http://www.find-bg.com/torrents/index.php?idx=details&id=de8d459e800f9a961824876f8f9fda1c8bcf5b6e (http://www.find-bg.com/torrents/index.php?idx=details&id=de8d459e800f9a961824876f8f9fda1c8bcf5b6e)

The others coming soon

shutdk
06-21-2007, 10:31 AM
Thanks sugam..
Most of them are without seeders, Zamuda needs registration and I think ArenaBG requires me to be Bulgarian.

sugam
06-21-2007, 10:57 AM
In bgnova you should wait till you connect. Everything has seeder(s) there.
All the files will soon be at the new Arenabg, you should look in both sites for now. If you cant register I can help you.
At zamunda you can register without problem.
You can find almost all of the stuff at these three sites. If something is missing I can upload it for you. It will take some time of course ;)

eliteman
06-21-2007, 02:45 PM
I don't think there are any trackers that keep old files for such a long time, if u want old scene releases you might try and look into public, slower speeds, but better than nothing. Revolution, TL and others have iNTERNALs of the old releases being rereleased but there aren't that many of them, I think that Revolution has the biggest variety of old stuff that u are looking for

shutdk
06-21-2007, 03:14 PM
Offer edited..

Paradise.Found.2003.DVDRiP.SVCD-UMS
Behind.The.Red.Door.2002.STV.DVDRiP.XviD-HLS
Article.99.1992.DVDRiP.XviD-VH-PROD
Bright.Lights.Big.City.1988.DVDRiP.XviD-VH-PROD
Crazy.Moon.1986.LiMiTED.DVDRiP.XviD-BNU
Stand.By.Me.1986.WS.SE.DVDRiP.SVCD-KuDoS


Cowboy Up
Dead Heat (Set som DVD på Zamuda.NET)
Woman Wanted
Desert Saints
Ground Control
Break Up
A soldier's sweetheart
Truth or Consequences, N.M
The Last Days of Frankie the Fly
Eye for an Eye
Hourglass
Teresa's Tattoo
Chicago Joe and the Showgirl
Renegades
1969
The Killing Time
Promised Land
The bad boy
Max Dugan Returns

Cerise
06-22-2007, 01:25 AM
Man, honestly, you should give up if you don't have any friends in the scene.
You can find lots of things by P2p but you will not find all. That's sure ;)

saulin
06-22-2007, 04:15 AM
Torrents and newsgroups my friend. You can get pretty much anything you can think of :)

Newsgroups beat torrent trackers any day too and no ratio to worry about. The reason I use torrent trackers is for the few things you can't get in the newgroups and because some trackers especialize on a espesific content too.

shutdk
06-22-2007, 07:51 AM
Man, honestly, you should give up if you don't have any friends in the scene.
You can find lots of things by P2p but you will not find all. That's sure ;)

Then maybe someone from here is in the scene and wants to do me a favour :)?


Saulin: Thanks, but I'm a poor guy. Maybe someone with newsgroup access can see if any of those are there?
That would also be appreciated :)

shutdk
06-24-2007, 11:05 AM
updated:

Scenereleases:


Behind.The.Red.Door.2002.STV.DVDRiP.XviD-HLS
Article.99.1992.DVDRiP.XviD-VH-PROD
Bright.Lights.Big.City.1988.DVDRiP.XviD-VH-PROD
Crazy.Moon.1986.LiMiTED.DVDRiP.XviD-BNU
Stand.By.Me.1986.WS.SE.DVDRiP.SVCD-KuDoS

Scenerelease doesn't excist:
Cowboy Up
Dead Heat
Woman Wanted
Desert Saints
Ground Control
Break Up
A soldier's sweetheart
Truth or Consequences, N.M
The Last Days of Frankie the Fly
Eye for an Eye
Hourglass
Teresa's Tattoo
Chicago Joe and the Showgirl
Flashback
Renegades
1969
The Killing Time
Promised Land
The bad boy
Max Dugan Returns

oinkolous
06-24-2007, 02:59 PM
Some private tracker must be having old requests..but then again how many of those get filled is one more question to be asked :)

jayz707
06-24-2007, 03:10 PM
I think you need one of those huge FTP boards that have around TB'z of old crap...

and how do i gain access to those? do you know any ? :)

Melvinmeow
06-24-2007, 03:56 PM
Some private tracker must be having old requests..but then again how many of those get filled is one more question to be asked :)

Acctually more than you would imagine get filled.

For example people post stuff daily on my sites req and we never have more than 100 or so not filled.


I would imagine similiar on FSC and other community driven sites as well.

P.S. ill try posting Stand.By.Me.1986. XVID tomorrow if I dont forget.

shutdk
06-24-2007, 09:17 PM
P.S. ill try posting Stand.By.Me.1986. XVID tomorrow if I dont forget.

Would be awesome :)

Vercors
06-24-2007, 11:14 PM
updated:

Scenereleases:


Behind.The.Red.Door.2002.STV.DVDRiP.XviD-HLS
Article.99.1992.DVDRiP.XviD-VH-PROD
Bright.Lights.Big.City.1988.DVDRiP.XviD-VH-PROD
Crazy.Moon.1986.LiMiTED.DVDRiP.XviD-BNU
Stand.By.Me.1986.WS.SE.DVDRiP.SVCD-KuDoS

Scenerelease doesn't excist:
Cowboy Up
Dead Heat
Woman Wanted
Desert Saints
Ground Control
Break Up
A soldier's sweetheart
Truth or Consequences, N.M
The Last Days of Frankie the Fly
Eye for an Eye
Hourglass
Teresa's Tattoo
Chicago Joe and the Showgirl
Flashback
Renegades
1969
The Killing Time
Promised Land
The bad boy
Max Dugan Returns

You can also find these DVDRips in the "scene" :

Dead.Heat.1988.iTALiAN.LiMiTED.DVDRip.XviD-BoX
Woman.Wanted.German.1999.DVDRiP.AC3.XViD-DARM
Ground.Control.German.1998.DVDRip.XviD-NGE
Break.Up.1998.WS.DVDRiP.MP4.PSP-EwDp
Truth.or.Consequences.NM.1997.iNTERNAL.DVDRip.XviD-UNDEAD
The.Last.Days.Of.Frankie.The.Fly.1997.DVDRip.XviD-FTP
An.Eye.For.An.Eye.1981.DVDRip.XviD-DIMENSION
Flashback.2005.DVDRip.XviD-YardNinjas
Flashback.1990.DVDRip.Xvid.iNT-420RipZ
Renegades.1989.WS.DVDRip.XviD-VoMiT
Killing.Time.2006.DVDRip.XviD-BiEN
Promised.Land.2004.LiMiTED.DVDRiP.XViD-HLS

shutdk
06-25-2007, 08:03 AM
Thanks Vercors (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/../../members/vercors-147364)
Wasn't able to find those in Nforce.
It's only those I need. The rest you posted are the wrong movies.

Break.Up.1998.WS.DVDRiP.MP4.PSP-EwDp
Truth.or.Consequences.NM.1997.iNTERNAL.DVDRip.XviD-UNDEAD
The.Last.Days.Of.Frankie.The.Fly.1997.DVDRip.XviD-FTP
Flashback.1990.DVDRip.Xvid.iNT-420RipZ
Renegades.1989.WS.DVDRip.XviD-VoMiT

Would you be able to get them for me in some way?
Of course you will get a gift.

Vercors
06-25-2007, 09:47 AM
I'm sorry, I don't have access to that kind of stuff.
All I did was searching a predb for the films you mentioned.

There are a bunch of things I'd like to get aswell, but I know I will probably never get them unless I'm willing to pay...which I'm not ;)

shutdk
06-25-2007, 11:50 PM
hump

RainRoofer
06-26-2007, 09:18 AM
TiT will probably be the best place for that if they back to their roots.

shutdk
06-26-2007, 10:39 AM
I hope they do.. Every people are talking nice about TiT. But I have never been there.
Looking forward to see it.

0Ri0N
06-26-2007, 10:28 PM
P.S. ill try posting Stand.By.Me.1986. XVID tomorrow if I dont forget.Would be awesome :)

Dont know if you already have it but Stand.By.Me.1986.iNTERNAL.DVDRip.XviD-420RipZ Release is available in FsC.

btw, i think FsC is the only private tracker that has the all imdb top250 XviD collection at the moment. <3

shutdk
06-27-2007, 01:05 AM
Would be awesome :)

Dont know if you already have it but Stand.By.Me.1986.iNTERNAL.DVDRip.XviD-420RipZ Release is available in FsC.

btw, i think FsC is the only private tracker that has the all imdb top250 XviD collection at the moment. <3

Where?
I can't find it.
Can you PM me the link?

shutdk
06-27-2007, 02:01 PM
A little update:

Paradise.Found.2003.DVDRiP.SVCD-UMS
Behind.The.Red.Door.2002.STV.DVDRiP.XviD-HLS
To.End.All.Wars.2001.LiMiTED.WS.DVDRiP-XviD-DoNE
Article.99.1992.DVDRiP.XviD-VH-PROD
Bright.Lights.Big.City.1988.DVDRiP.XviD-VH-PROD
Crazy.Moon.1986.LiMiTED.DVDRiP.XviD-BNU


Cowboy Up
Dead Heat (Seen as DVD on Zamuda.NET)
Woman Wanted
Desert Saints
Ground Control
Break Up
A soldier's sweetheart
Truth or Consequences, N.M
The Last Days of Frankie the Fly
Eye for an Eye
Hourglass
Teresa's Tattoo
Chicago Joe and the Showgirl
Flashback
Renegades
1969
The Killing Time
Promised Land
The bad boy
Max Dugan Returns

zoeygirly
06-27-2007, 02:51 PM
You might want to try araditracker.com they have some older stuff there

Isn't that middle east stuff only?

Nope, it has everything in english ;)

shutdk
06-27-2007, 08:59 PM
The name just sound like arabi.. lol

shutdk
06-28-2007, 08:49 AM
bump :rolleyes: