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The Knife Thrower

06-21-2003, 05:46 PM

Originally posted by sharedholder@18 June 2003 - 21:59
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vivitron 15

06-23-2003, 10:38 AM

Originally posted by Lamsey@18 June 2003 - 22:03
I think this should be moved to Funny Stuff actually...
what's funny about Jesus and religion Lamsey??

I hope your not being "Atheist Mod" and mocking people's beliefs?

crazy_billy_bats

06-23-2003, 10:46 AM

Originally posted by vivitron 15+23 June 2003 - 10:38--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (vivitron 15 @ 23 June 2003 - 10:38)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Lamsey@18 June 2003 - 22:03
I think this should be moved to Funny Stuff actually...
what's funny about Jesus and religion Lamsey??

I hope your not being "Atheist Mod" and mocking people's beliefs? [/b][/quote]
I agree whats funny about this?

theprisoner

06-24-2003, 11:38 PM

hmmmm, this isnt funny and in very poor taste <_< . what the hell is up with posting churchofsatan.com????

J'Pol

06-26-2003, 07:43 PM

Originally posted by crazy_billy_bats+23 June 2003 - 11:46--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (crazy_billy_bats @ 23 June 2003 - 11:46)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by vivitron 15@23 June 2003 - 10:38
<!--QuoteBegin-Lamsey@18 June 2003 - 22:03
I think this should be moved to Funny Stuff actually...
what's funny about Jesus and religion Lamsey??

I hope your not being "Atheist Mod" and mocking people's beliefs?
I agree whats funny about this? [/b][/quote]
I also agree.

Why exactly would this be moved to funny stuff.

I really would like this explained to me. Any MOD available.

crazy_billy_bats

06-26-2003, 07:54 PM

Well is appears its now been moved after 3 or 4 people made a point of it.

But yeah, why was it put in the funny section in the first place?

Was it because there was :lol: 's in the post !!!!!

Or because the lord Jesus is a mockery and something to poke fun and laughter at?

No matter what people's beliefs are?

The Knife Thrower

06-26-2003, 07:58 PM

There is nothing wrong with putting smilies into this thread. But it should never have been moved to the funny stuff forum.

J'Pol

06-26-2003, 08:17 PM

RF said he would move it here, so as not to offend anyone's Christian beliefs. So no problem, it's sorted now. Before anyone starts going on about it, get your other cheek and turn it.

namzuf9

06-26-2003, 09:25 PM

Originally posted by theprisoner@24 June 2003 - 23:38
hmmmm, this isnt funny and in very poor taste <_< . what the hell is up with posting churchofsatan.com????
Nothing wrong with the church of satan. I've followed the satanic faith for years.

crazy_billy_bats

06-26-2003, 09:33 PM

Originally posted by namzuf9+26 June 2003 - 21:25--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (namzuf9 @ 26 June 2003 - 21:25)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-theprisoner@24 June 2003 - 23:38
hmmmm, this isnt funny and in very poor taste <_< . what the hell is up with posting churchofsatan.com????
Nothing wrong with the church of satan. I've followed the satanic faith for years. [/b][/quote]
but dont they condone evil?

and aint evil wrong?

namzuf9

06-28-2003, 08:24 AM

Originally posted by crazy_billy_bats+26 June 2003 - 21:33--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (crazy_billy_bats @ 26 June 2003 - 21:33)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by namzuf9@26 June 2003 - 21:25

Originally posted by theprisoner@24 June 2003 - 23:38
hmmmm, this isnt funny and in very poor taste <_< . what the hell is up with posting churchofsatan.com????
Nothing wrong with the church of satan. I've followed the satanic faith for years.
but dont they condone evil?

and aint evil wrong? [/b]

Well take the Nine Satanic Statements and tell me what you think (as a starting point)

<!--QuoteBegin-Anton Szandor LaVey from The Satanic Bible@ ©1969

The Nine Satanic Statements

1. Satan represents indulgence instead of abstinence!
2. Satan represents vital existence instead of spiritual pipe dreams!
3. Satan represents undefiled wisdom instead of hypocritical self-deceit!
4. Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it instead of love wasted on ingrates!
5. Satan represents vengeance instead of turning the other cheek!
6. Satan represents responsibility to the responsible instead of concern for psychic vampires!
7. Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his “divine spiritual and intellectual development,” has become the most vicious animal of all!
8. Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification!

9. Satan has been the best friend the Church has ever had, as He has kept it in business all these years! [/quote]

How evil do they sound?

olibomb

06-28-2003, 11:45 AM

Originally posted by namzuf9+28 June 2003 - 09:24--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (namzuf9 @ 28 June 2003 - 09:24)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by crazy_billy_bats@26 June 2003 - 21:33

Originally posted by namzuf9@26 June 2003 - 21:25

Originally posted by theprisoner@24 June 2003 - 23:38
hmmmm, this isnt funny and in very poor taste <_< . what the hell is up with posting churchofsatan.com????
Nothing wrong with the church of satan. I've followed the satanic faith for years.
but dont they condone evil?

and aint evil wrong?

Well take the Nine Satanic Statements and tell me what you think (as a starting point)

<!--QuoteBegin-Anton Szandor LaVey from The Satanic Bible@ ©1969

The Nine Satanic Statements

1. Satan represents indulgence instead of abstinence!
2. Satan represents vital existence instead of spiritual pipe dreams!
3. Satan represents undefiled wisdom instead of hypocritical self-deceit!
4. Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it instead of love wasted on ingrates!
5. Satan represents vengeance instead of turning the other cheek!
6. Satan represents responsibility to the responsible instead of concern for psychic vampires!
7. Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his “divine spiritual and intellectual development,” has become the most vicious animal of all!
8. Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification!

9. Satan has been the best friend the Church has ever had, as He has kept it in business all these years!

How evil do they sound? [/b][/quote]
U make me sick, u idiot

namzuf9

06-28-2003, 12:55 PM

Originally posted by olibomb@28 June 2003 - 11:45
U make me sick, u idiot
Why? Because I dont share the same beliefs as you? Or is it because I follow a philosophy that a lot of people dont understand or maybe even fear?

I not saying I conduct black mass or sacirfice virgins here. I dont particuly believe in the exsistence of God or Satan. I'm just saying I follow the satanists philosophy because of all the the religions out there, the Church of Satan makes the most sense to me. Sorry for my personal beliefs if they offend you but thats just tough.

Now I've defended my beliefs without resorting to insults why dont you explain to me exactly why I make you sick and why I'm an idiot.http://www.emule-project.net/board/html/emoticons/ranting.gif

J'Pol

06-28-2003, 01:04 PM

Do you get any Public Holidays or anything and are they officially recognised. We get Christmas and Easter, just wondering if you got anything.

namzuf9

06-28-2003, 01:13 PM

Originally posted by JPaul@28 June 2003 - 13:04
Do you get any Public Holidays or anything and are they officially recognised. We get Christmas and Easter, just wondering if you got anything.
:lol: :lol:

Like I say, its the philosophy that I follow much as in the way a buddist does.
Its not my bible and I dont adhere to any religion as I am a an atheist.
I do aplogise to anybody who has relgion in their life but thats the way I am. I would never insult or perscute someone because of their relgion I just hope that the same respect could be shown to me.

Edit: And to answer your original question Jp there are 3 major holidays.
You own birthday
Walpurgisnacht
and Halloween

J'Pol

06-28-2003, 01:24 PM

I have no problem with whatever philosophy you chose to follow in life. I think people just get the wrong end of the stick when you say you follow the philosophy of satanism.

I assume that as you are an atheist then you also don't believe that satan actually exists, as such you are not a satanist, just someone who has a philosophical viewpoint which is similar to theirs.

There are people who follow the teachings of Christ, who are not Christians, as they do not believe he was the son of God. In fact it is possible to follow his teachings and be an atheist. Similar to what you do, only with different teachings / beliefs.

I may not support the beliefs as you have outlined them, however I fully support your right to have and express them

namzuf9

06-28-2003, 01:31 PM

Think you very much for you supportive and level headed reponse JP.
I was beginning to think I was a monster.

By posting about the church of satan I was not trying to create controvesy or offend anyone, just to expand others knowledge on it. I would recommend to anyone of any faith to d/l the satanic bible just as a reference book (its a damn interesting read). Its also a good chance to check out the opposition!!!!

Lamsey

06-28-2003, 02:23 PM

Originally posted by JPaul@28 June 2003 - 14:24
There are people who follow the teachings of Christ, who are not Christians, as they do not believe he was the son of God. In fact it is possible to follow his teachings and be an atheist. Similar to what you do, only with different teachings / beliefs.
Hey, that's me! He's talking about me!

J'Pol

06-28-2003, 02:25 PM

Originally posted by Lamsey+28 June 2003 - 15:23--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Lamsey @ 28 June 2003 - 15:23)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-JPaul@28 June 2003 - 14:24
There are people who follow the teachings of Christ, who are not Christians, as they do not believe he was the son of God. In fact it is possible to follow his teachings and be an atheist. Similar to what you do, only with different teachings / beliefs.
Hey, that's me! He's talking about me! [/b][/quote]
I didn't want to mention your name, as it isn't my place to expose your beliefs, but yes you did spring to mind while I was writing it.

PS you really have to stop abusing your powers, to get other mods banned and make it look like people think you are cool. :D

Lamsey

06-28-2003, 02:27 PM

Originally posted by JPaul@28 June 2003 - 15:25
I didn't want to mention your name, as it isn't my place to expose your beliefs, but yes you did spring to mind while I was writing it.

PS you really have to stop abusing your powers, to get other mods banned and make it look like people think you are cool. :D
:devil:

Slightly controversial smilie to use in this topic, but what the hell...

namzuf9

06-28-2003, 02:30 PM

Originally posted by Lamsey@28 June 2003 - 14:27
:devil:

Slightly controversial smilie to use in this topic, but what the hell...
You have offended me, may you burn in hell sinner :P

Lamsey

06-28-2003, 02:31 PM

Originally posted by namzuf9@28 June 2003 - 15:30
You have offended me, may you burn in hell sinner :P
I'll see you down there then. :D

RGX

06-28-2003, 02:34 PM

I think I have decided to be sort of.....christian/buddhist strange thing, but then again, some views of either I dont agree with so....

I just beleive in God or something watching over us, but not neccaserily anything else....

Yeah im sticking with that

I dont think we have the right to mock anybodys religion, be it christian or Satanist. Although i do not agree with satanists, I can respect them for choosing to be who they are

J'Pol

06-28-2003, 02:37 PM

The Christian view would almost certainly be that they did not chose to be who they were, that they had been taken by satan and his minions.

Guillaume

06-28-2003, 02:39 PM

Is that really different from being part of any other religion as soon as you're born?

J'Pol

06-28-2003, 02:42 PM

Originally posted by Gurahl@28 June 2003 - 15:39
Is that really different from being part of any other religion as soon as you're born?
No

NewBie40

06-28-2003, 02:55 PM

Originally posted by sharedholder@18 June 2003 - 21:59
http://www.j-e-s-u-s.net/christiandownloads.htm

ENJOY :lol:
Thanks for that link. ;)

Spindulik

06-28-2003, 04:35 PM

Sorry to offend everyone here, but all of that religion, Satanic, Jesus, Greek Mythology, Indian Spirits, KKK, ALI and the rest are way too much "make believe" for me.

You all can bicker about your "Invisible Guy", whose is the best and such. Damn it is 2003 and need to wake up. Adjust to the times. Anyone still believe in Zues or Pharoh's Sun Gods (RA)?

Maybe my "religion" is no religion. Am I as guilty as the rest?

neil1967

06-28-2003, 05:03 PM

most interesting thread of the day by far, i'm impressed. and i should say that poking fun at religion is fine by me, whatever religion it is. why should religion be different to anything else? in my opinion you dont have to scratch the surface to much to find humour in any topic. i'm not in the least bit religious but i am a humanitarian. "May your god be with you" dave allen. :)

J'Pol

06-28-2003, 05:05 PM

Originally posted by Spindulik@28 June 2003 - 17:35
Sorry to offend everyone here, but all of that religion, Satanic, Jesus, Greek Mythology, Indian Spirits, KKK, ALI and the rest are way too much "make believe" for me.

You all can bicker about your "Invisible Guy", whose is the best and such. Damn it is 2003 and need to wake up. Adjust to the times. Anyone still believe in Zues or Pharoh's Sun Gods (RA)?

Maybe my "religion" is no religion. Am I as guilty as the rest?
You sound to me like you are a devout atheist, as it would appear are namzuf and Lamsey. What they are referring to is their philosophy on how they should live their life, as opposed to any belief in an afterlife or a deity.

In Lamsey's case he follows the teachings of Christ, though he is not a Christian, in fact he doesn't even believe in God. Namzuf follows the principles as outlined in the statement of the church of satan, again he is an atheist.

They find no need to believe in the invisible guy you speak of. I am sure you have some guiding principals by which you live your life. These may be broadly similar to those held by a religion, that does not make you a member of that religion.

I personally am a Christian and I have to say that whether it is 2003, 3003 or anything else makes no difference. You seem to think that my beliefs may become too old to be true at some stage. In an infinite universe of time and space the notion doesn't really mean anything.

J'Pol

06-28-2003, 05:06 PM

Originally posted by neil1967@28 June 2003 - 18:03
i'm not in the least bit religious but i am a humanitarian.
Does that mean you only eat humans ? :blink:

namzuf9

06-28-2003, 05:12 PM

Originally posted by JPaul@28 June 2003 - 17:06
Does that mean you only eat humans ? :blink:
You should no better than to pass comment on peoples eating habits, not after last time! I just hope Lamesy dont see this he'll go ape! :lol:

J'Pol

06-28-2003, 05:20 PM

Originally posted by namzuf9+28 June 2003 - 18:12--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (namzuf9 @ 28 June 2003 - 18:12)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-JPaul@28 June 2003 - 17:06
Does that mean you only eat humans ?  :blink:
You should no better than to pass comment on peoples eating habits, not after last time! I just hope Lamesy dont see this he'll go ape! :lol: [/b][/quote]
No, I think you'll find that Lamsey is tolerant of other people's belief systems. As are you and I.

I really hate intollerant people, they should all be lined up against a wall and shot.

neil1967

06-28-2003, 05:21 PM

of course i only eat humans, what are you sick or something. and they must be female and over 17, i love to eat ladies. :)

J'Pol

06-28-2003, 05:26 PM

have you met fugley, if not I can arrange an introduction. I am sure you will get on famously.

namzuf9

06-28-2003, 05:30 PM

Originally posted by JPaul@28 June 2003 - 17:20
I really hate intollerant people, they should all be lined up against a wall and shot.
Yeah those bar stewards I aint got no time for 'em! :lol:

neil1967

06-28-2003, 05:31 PM

i didnt realy want to go there with my personal eating habits but felt a reply was in order jp, by the way thanks for the tips with the avatar the other day :)

J'Pol

06-28-2003, 05:35 PM

Originally posted by neil1967@28 June 2003 - 18:31
i didnt realy want to go there with my personal eating habits but felt a reply was in order jp, by the way thanks for the tips with the avatar the other day :)
Always a pleasure to be of some little assistance when possible. That's what seperates the Christians from the Satanist's.

I believe the 10th statement that namzuf left out was 10. Fix your own avatar fuckwit.

You do know that if you post that link in your sig as an image then you can share the real picture of you with the chaps here. ;)

crazy_billy_bats

06-28-2003, 05:42 PM

Originally posted by namzuf9+28 June 2003 - 08:24--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (namzuf9 @ 28 June 2003 - 08:24)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by crazy_billy_bats@26 June 2003 - 21:33

Originally posted by namzuf9@26 June 2003 - 21:25

Originally posted by theprisoner@24 June 2003 - 23:38
hmmmm, this isnt funny and in very poor taste <_< . what the hell is up with posting churchofsatan.com????
Nothing wrong with the church of satan. I've followed the satanic faith for years.
but dont they condone evil?

and aint evil wrong?

Well take the Nine Satanic Statements and tell me what you think (as a starting point)

<!--QuoteBegin-Anton Szandor LaVey from The Satanic Bible@ ©1969

The Nine Satanic Statements

1. Satan represents indulgence instead of abstinence!
2. Satan represents vital existence instead of spiritual pipe dreams!
3. Satan represents undefiled wisdom instead of hypocritical self-deceit!
4. Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it instead of love wasted on ingrates!
5. Satan represents vengeance instead of turning the other cheek!
6. Satan represents responsibility to the responsible instead of concern for psychic vampires!
7. Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his “divine spiritual and intellectual development,” has become the most vicious animal of all!
8. Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification!

9. Satan has been the best friend the Church has ever had, as He has kept it in business all these years!

How evil do they sound? [/b][/quote]
Pretty evil when there is "Satan" at the start of every sentance.......he(EDIT: or it/she, whatever) encompasses and represents all that is evil and wrong in the world.

neil1967

06-28-2003, 05:44 PM

i was doing just that before i returned to check out your latest retort. unfortunatly
it didnt work. any tips for fuckwitted? :blink:

namzuf9

06-28-2003, 05:44 PM

Originally posted by crazy_billy_bats+28 June 2003 - 17:42--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (crazy_billy_bats @ 28 June 2003 - 17:42)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by namzuf9@28 June 2003 - 08:24

Originally posted by crazy_billy_bats@26 June 2003 - 21:33

Originally posted by namzuf9@26 June 2003 - 21:25

Originally posted by theprisoner@24 June 2003 - 23:38
hmmmm, this isnt funny and in very poor taste <_< . what the hell is up with posting churchofsatan.com????
Nothing wrong with the church of satan. I've followed the satanic faith for years.
but dont they condone evil?

and aint evil wrong?

Well take the Nine Satanic Statements and tell me what you think (as a starting point)

<!--QuoteBegin-Anton Szandor LaVey from The Satanic Bible@ ©1969

The Nine Satanic Statements

1. Satan represents indulgence instead of abstinence!
2. Satan represents vital existence instead of spiritual pipe dreams!
3. Satan represents undefiled wisdom instead of hypocritical self-deceit!
4. Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it instead of love wasted on ingrates!
5. Satan represents vengeance instead of turning the other cheek!
6. Satan represents responsibility to the responsible instead of concern for psychic vampires!
7. Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his “divine spiritual and intellectual development,” has become the most vicious animal of all!
8. Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification!

9. Satan has been the best friend the Church has ever had, as He has kept it in business all these years!

How evil do they sound?
Pretty evil when there is "Satan" at the start of every sentance.......he encompasses and represents all that is evil and wrong in the world. [/b][/quote]
And if the word Satan was replaced with something else would it mak sense then?

crazy_billy_bats

06-28-2003, 05:57 PM

Originally posted by namzuf9@28 June 2003 - 17:44

And if the word Satan was replaced with something else would it mak sense then?
Not really.

Its still evil in my view - vengeance is not something good in my book, for example.

Plus what made the author of this book the "Prodigal Son" (excuse the pun) of the Satanists? Why do people hang on his every word from this book?

I know christians hang on every word of the bible and of Jesus, as he was the son of GOD himself in their views.......not some guy who wrote a book in 1969.

EDIT:
I also have no idea whatsoever what number 6 is all about......

Lamsey

06-28-2003, 06:53 PM

Originally posted by JPaul@28 June 2003 - 18:20
I really hate intolerant people, they should all be lined up against a wall and shot.
*Lamsey falls off his seat laughing

Spindulik

06-28-2003, 07:32 PM

"Free Christian Downloads ! "

Is that like Christian P2P? How do the Christians feel about the P2P idea? Swapping copyright material.

thewizeard

06-28-2003, 07:33 PM

There are three things I've learned never to discuss with people: religion, politics and the Great Pumkin.

J'Pol

06-28-2003, 07:41 PM

Originally posted by Spindulik@28 June 2003 - 20:32
"Free Christian Downloads ! "

Is that like Christian P2P? How do the Christians feel about the P2P idea? Swapping copyright material.
No - it's where you can download a Christian. However make sure to preview it. Otherwise you will get a corrupt one (a.k.a. a satanist)

Lamsey

06-28-2003, 07:43 PM

Originally posted by nigel123@28 June 2003 - 20:33
There are three things I've learned never to discuss with people: religion, politics and the Great Pumkin.
You forgot Hunting!

And with regards to TGP:
http://www.spies.com/~nevin/r/www/local/web/people/nevin/peanuts961027.jpg

J'Pol

06-28-2003, 07:46 PM

What about humanitarianism, someone brought that up earlier. It got quite controversial for a bit, but I think we sorted it out.

Lamsey

06-28-2003, 07:50 PM

I like humans.

I just don't think I could eat a whole one.

J'Pol

06-28-2003, 07:52 PM

Go away fugley - don't even think about it.

fugley

06-28-2003, 07:57 PM

:rolleyes:

hobbes

06-28-2003, 08:04 PM

I think Lamsey needs to be given a "time out" as moderator. Moving the topic to "funny stuff" is highly disrespectful to believers.

If I were mod, could I move all his posts about "vegetarians and Hitler" to the funny stuff section?

If the word had been "free Negro downloads" and he had done the like, he would be an ex-moderator.

Try to remove your views from your job as moderator.

I have read every post in this thread. In my opinion, people were not hard on you enough. You made a serious transgression. Not only was the move a form of censorship, but it was overtly disrespectful.

You're still a good kid and BECAUSE of this, I am posting this.

I think it is relevant to add that I am NOT a Christian, but rather an Agnostic.

Spindulik

06-28-2003, 08:14 PM

Originally posted by Lamsey+28 June 2003 - 12:43--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Lamsey @ 28 June 2003 - 12:43)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-nigel123@28 June 2003 - 20:33
There are three things I've learned never to discuss with people: religion, politics and the Great Pumkin.
You forgot Hunting!

And with regards to TGP:
http://www.spies.com/~nevin/r/www/local/web/people/nevin/peanuts961027.jpg [/b][/quote]
H0ly Crap. How'd you get a Peanuts PUMPKIN cartoon soo quick?

crazy_billy_bats

06-28-2003, 08:20 PM

Originally posted by Spindulik+28 June 2003 - 20:14--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Spindulik @ 28 June 2003 - 20:14)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Lamsey@28 June 2003 - 12:43
<!--QuoteBegin-nigel123@28 June 2003 - 20:33
There are three things I've learned never to discuss with people: religion, politics and the Great Pumkin.
You forgot Hunting!

And with regards to TGP:
http://www.spies.com/~nevin/r/www/local/web/people/nevin/peanuts961027.jpg
H0ly Crap. How'd you get a Peanuts PUMPKIN cartoon soo quick? [/b][/quote]
Wasnt his reply roughly 7hrs and 50mins later?

Quite a while to get a copy of it i would think.

:P :P :P

:lol: :lol:

fugley

06-28-2003, 08:22 PM

Originally posted by Spindulik@28 June 2003 - 19:32
"Free Christian Downloads ! "

Is that like Christian P2P? How do the Christians feel about the P2P idea? Swapping copyright material.
Bet Jesus didn't do it!!!!! :blink:

namzuf9

06-28-2003, 08:31 PM

Originally posted by crazy_billy_bats+28 June 2003 - 17:57--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (crazy_billy_bats @ 28 June 2003 - 17:57)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-namzuf9@28 June 2003 - 17:44

And if the word Satan was replaced with something else would it mak sense then?
Not really.

Its still evil in my view - vengeance is not something good in my book, for example.

Plus what made the author of this book the "Prodigal Son" (excuse the pun) of the Satanists? Why do people hang on his every word from this book?

I know christians hang on every word of the bible and of Jesus, as he was the son of GOD himself in their views.......not some guy who wrote a book in 1969.

EDIT:
I also have no idea whatsoever what number 6 is all about...... [/b][/quote]
I respect you for your views I just hope you understand mine. I was trying to illustrate that the satanic bible is not all about evil and sacrificing virgins.
As I've said before I dont believe in God or Satan but I follow the Satanic philosphy.
It is wrong to mock others beliefs and I'm glad you did not to mine.

If you had offended me I would of called on Haborym to smite you!!
I'm joking BTW!!

thewizeard

06-28-2003, 08:33 PM

If you ask me he replied before I placed, that's briliant!

crazy_billy_bats

06-28-2003, 08:35 PM

Originally posted by namzuf9+28 June 2003 - 20:31--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (namzuf9 @ 28 June 2003 - 20:31)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by crazy_billy_bats@28 June 2003 - 17:57
<!--QuoteBegin-namzuf9@28 June 2003 - 17:44

And if the word Satan was replaced with something else would it mak sense then?
Not really.

Its still evil in my view - vengeance is not something good in my book, for example.

Plus what made the author of this book the "Prodigal Son" (excuse the pun) of the Satanists? Why do people hang on his every word from this book?

I know christians hang on every word of the bible and of Jesus, as he was the son of GOD himself in their views.......not some guy who wrote a book in 1969.

EDIT:
I also have no idea whatsoever what number 6 is all about......
I respect you for your views I just hope you understand mine. I was trying to illustrate that the satanic bible is not all about evil and sacrificing virgins.
As I've said before I dont believe in God or Satan but I follow the Satanic philosphy.
It is wrong to mock others beliefs and I'm glad you did not to mine.

If you had offended me I would of called on Haborym to smite you!!
I'm joking BTW!! [/b][/quote]
Yeah i understand your views namzuf, glad i didnt offend u, didnt intend to !! :D

@Fugley - but isnt the question WOULD he nowadays?

J'Pol

06-28-2003, 08:37 PM

Originally posted by hobbes@28 June 2003 - 21:04
I think Lamsey needs to be given a "time out" as moderator.  Moving the topic to "funny stuff" is highly disrespectful to believers.

If I were mod, could I move all his posts about "vegetarians and Hitler" to the funny stuff section? 

If the word had been "free Negro downloads" and he had done the like, he would be an ex-moderator.

Try to remove your views from your job as moderator.

I have read every post in this thread.  In my opinion, people were not hard on you enough.  You made a serious transgression. Not only was the move a form of censorship, but it was overtly disrespectful.

You're still a good kid and BECAUSE of this, I am posting this.

I think it is relevant to add that I am NOT a Christian, but rather an Agnostic.
It is worthy of note that the chap apologised in the spamming pinned thread.

Apologies to anyone I offended.

My actions were mostly in jest, I regret it if I caused upset.

http://www.klboard.ath.cx/bb/index.php?sho...pic=46204&st=15 (http://www.klboard.ath.cx/bb/index.php?showtopic=46204&st=15)

Like I said there, good enough for me, if not anyone else. It shows maturity beyond his years that he accepted an error and apologised in public.

namzuf9

06-28-2003, 08:37 PM

Originally posted by crazy_billy_bats@28 June 2003 - 20:35
@Fugley - but isnt the question WOULD he nowadays?
Did they have broadband in those days??

fugley

06-28-2003, 08:53 PM

Originally posted by crazy_billy_bats+28 June 2003 - 20:35--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (crazy_billy_bats @ 28 June 2003 - 20:35)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by namzuf9@28 June 2003 - 20:31

Originally posted by crazy_billy_bats@28 June 2003 - 17:57
<!--QuoteBegin-namzuf9@28 June 2003 - 17:44

And if the word Satan was replaced with something else would it mak sense then?
Not really.

Its still evil in my view - vengeance is not something good in my book, for example.

Plus what made the author of this book the "Prodigal Son" (excuse the pun) of the Satanists? Why do people hang on his every word from this book?

I know christians hang on every word of the bible and of Jesus, as he was the son of GOD himself in their views.......not some guy who wrote a book in 1969.

EDIT:
I also have no idea whatsoever what number 6 is all about......
I respect you for your views I just hope you understand mine. I was trying to illustrate that the satanic bible is not all about evil and sacrificing virgins.
As I've said before I dont believe in God or Satan but I follow the Satanic philosphy.
It is wrong to mock others beliefs and I'm glad you did not to mine.

If you had offended me I would of called on Haborym to smite you!!
I'm joking BTW!!
Yeah i understand your views namzuf, glad i didnt offend u, didnt intend to !! :D

@Fugley - but isnt the question WOULD he nowadays? [/b][/quote]
Ask him!

Ever noticed suspicious similarity between the name Jesus Christ (JC) and JP

Perhaps this forum is the new Virtual "Bethlehem!". Maybe the 1st of January 2003 is the new date for Xmas! (That's the date JP joined & and like the JC JP bit it's spookily close to the original!) Noone can deny JP's unearthly wisdom.

I'm gonna pm him to see if I can become a virtual "desciple". He'll probably say get stuffed pin head but I think it's worth a go.

I wonder who will be the "Judas" who reports him to the RIIA for downloading copyrighted materials!

Course he won't be crucified this time just fined 500 quid for bein a naughty rascal!

Lamsey might be the new Arc Angel Gabriel (Arc Angel Lamsey - like it)

Our Global Admin who art in Heaven......................

J'Pol

06-28-2003, 08:57 PM

LOL

You really are my favourite mentalist.

I swear to God, my Father was a carpenter (God rest his soul).

namzuf9

06-28-2003, 09:09 PM

Originally posted by JPaul+28 June 2003 - 20:37--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (JPaul @ 28 June 2003 - 20:37)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-hobbes@28 June 2003 - 21:04
I think Lamsey needs to be given a "time out" as moderator. Moving the topic to "funny stuff" is highly disrespectful to believers.

If I were mod, could I move all his posts about "vegetarians and Hitler" to the funny stuff section?

If the word had been "free Negro downloads" and he had done the like, he would be an ex-moderator.

Try to remove your views from your job as moderator.

I have read every post in this thread. In my opinion, people were not hard on you enough. You made a serious transgression. Not only was the move a form of censorship, but it was overtly disrespectful.

You're still a good kid and BECAUSE of this, I am posting this.

I think it is relevant to add that I am NOT a Christian, but rather an Agnostic.
It is worthy of note that the chap apologised in the spamming pinned thread.

Apologies to anyone I offended.

My actions were mostly in jest, I regret it if I caused upset.

http://www.klboard.ath.cx/bb/index.php?sho...pic=46204&st=15 (http://www.klboard.ath.cx/bb/index.php?showtopic=46204&st=15)

Like I said there, good enough for me, if not anyone else. It shows maturity beyond his years that he accepted an error and apologised in public. [/b][/quote]
Agreed. He's a good lad tis t'Lamesy!

fugley

06-28-2003, 09:37 PM

Originally posted by JPaul@28 June 2003 - 20:57
LOL

You really are my favourite mentalist.

I swear to God, my Father was a carpenter (God rest his soul).
Just too many coincidences for it to be coincidence..... er I think :blink:

hobbes

06-29-2003, 03:05 AM

An apology is irrelevant and totally expected given the cost of obstinance.

What we are dealing with is/was a serious lapse in judgement.

I asked for no apology, as I was not offended, I was merely pointing out that such gross lapses will result is early termination from duty.

namzuf9

06-29-2003, 03:13 AM

Originally posted by hobbes@29 June 2003 - 03:05
An apology is irrelevant and totally expected given the cost of obstinance.

What we are dealing with is/was a serious lapse in judgement.

I asked for no apology, as I was not offended, I was merely pointing out that such gross lapses will result is early termination from duty.
Oh lighten up will ya.
Somewhere a soapbox is sorely missing you! :P

hobbes

06-29-2003, 03:18 AM

Originally posted by namzuf9+29 June 2003 - 04:13--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (namzuf9 @ 29 June 2003 - 04:13)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-hobbes@29 June 2003 - 03:05
An apology is irrelevant and totally expected given the cost of obstinance.

What we are dealing with is/was a serious lapse in judgement.

I asked for no apology, as I was not offended, I was merely pointing out that such gross lapses will result is early termination from duty.
Oh lighten up will ya.
Somewhere a soapbox is sorely missing you! :P[/b][/quote]
ok :P

I told you, I like the boy.

You are very understanding for a Satanist, maybe you could lead a group hug?

clocker

06-29-2003, 03:23 AM

Originally posted by JPaul@28 June 2003 - 11:20

I really hate intollerant people, they should all be lined up against a wall and shot.
"Intollerant"?

Tsk, tsk, tsk.

namzuf9

06-29-2003, 03:28 AM

Originally posted by hobbes+29 June 2003 - 03:18--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (hobbes @ 29 June 2003 - 03:18)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by namzuf9@29 June 2003 - 04:13
<!--QuoteBegin-hobbes@29 June 2003 - 03:05
An apology is irrelevant and totally expected given the cost of obstinance.

What we are dealing with is/was a serious lapse in judgement.

I asked for no apology, as I was not offended, I was merely pointing out that such gross lapses will result is early termination from duty.
Oh lighten up will ya.
Somewhere a soapbox is sorely missing you! :P
ok :P

I told you, I like the boy.

You are very understanding for a Satanist, maybe you could lead a group hug? [/b][/quote]
Whatever makes you happy is one of the great teachings of the Satanic Bible!
If you wanna group hug and it makes you happy then do it! :flowers:
But I am not a Satanist am an Atheist with a sense of humour :D

hobbes

06-29-2003, 03:44 AM

Originally posted by namzuf9+26 June 2003 - 22:25--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (namzuf9 @ 26 June 2003 - 22:25)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-theprisoner@24 June 2003 - 23:38
hmmmm, this isnt funny and in very poor taste <_< . what the hell is up with posting churchofsatan.com????
Nothing wrong with the church of satan. I've followed the satanic faith for years.[/b][/quote]
I don't know how I got the idea you were a Satanist?

Whatever your faith, I laud a sense of humor over all!

What do I like to do?

I like to line babies and puppy dogs on a wall and shoot them dead with my machine gun.

I sometimes wonder if "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" would be a better philosophy than "whatever makes you happy".

Are you really an Athiest? You must declare without proof that God does not exist. This requires the same leap of faith that fundamental Christians have. Belief without proof. I don't do the faith thing, I am an agnostic.

namzuf9

06-29-2003, 04:15 AM

Originally posted by hobbes+29 June 2003 - 03:44--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (hobbes @ 29 June 2003 - 03:44)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by namzuf9@26 June 2003 - 22:25
<!--QuoteBegin-theprisoner@24 June 2003 - 23:38
hmmmm, this isnt funny and in very poor taste <_< . what the hell is up with posting churchofsatan.com????
Nothing wrong with the church of satan. I've followed the satanic faith for years.
I don't know how I got the idea you were a Satanist?

Whatever your faith, I laud a sense of humor over all!

What do I like to do?

I like to line babies and puppy dogs on a wall and shoot them dead with my machine gun.

I sometimes wonder if "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" would be a better philosophy than "whatever makes you happy".

Are you really an Athiest? You must declare without proof that God does not exist. This requires the same leap of faith that fundamental Christians have. Belief without proof. I don't do the faith thing, I am an agnostic. [/b][/quote]
Bad wording there. What I meant is that I follow the Satanist philosophy which is a totally different thing (read my eariler posts).
Being a atheist does takes a huge leap of faith, faith in oneself.
I also take the point of "whatever makes you happy" but because I'm not blinded by faith I can set personal boundries.
I hope you do find your "faith" good luck (I mean no sarcasm by this)

hobbes

06-29-2003, 04:27 AM

I knew exactly what you meant, It was the devil in me that was just playing. After all, it is Saturday night.

One cannot have "faith" in oneself. Faith is belief without knowledge. You may have trust or confidence in yourself, but you can never have "faith" in yourself.

Anyway, I was just having fun and if you thought I was making a personal attack on you, I openly apolgize.

I admit that I was on a soap box, but I feel that I was administering "tough love", not flaming.

Take care,

Hobbes

denis123

06-29-2003, 05:13 AM

You MUST have faith in yourself, I'm so glad I'm buddhist. You learn only to rely on yourself.

thewizeard

06-29-2003, 05:59 AM

Originally posted by Spindulik+28 June 2003 - 20:14--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Spindulik @ 28 June 2003 - 20:14)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Lamsey@28 June 2003 - 12:43
<!--QuoteBegin-nigel123@28 June 2003 - 20:33
There are three things I've learned never to discuss with people: religion, politics and the Great Pumkin.
You forgot Hunting!

And with regards to TGP:
http://www.spies.com/~nevin/r/www/local/web/people/nevin/peanuts961027.jpg
H0ly Crap. How'd you get a Peanuts PUMPKIN cartoon soo quick?[/b][/quote]
It's not that I forgot h*****g; Icould not even bring myself to write it down.

Nightwolf

06-29-2003, 07:53 AM

Originally posted by Spindulik@28 June 2003 - 11:35
Sorry to offend everyone here, but all of that religion, Satanic, Jesus, Greek Mythology, Indian Spirits, KKK, ALI and the rest are way too much "make believe" for me.

You all can bicker about your "Invisible Guy", whose is the best and such. Damn it is 2003 and need to wake up. Adjust to the times. Anyone still believe in Zues or Pharoh's  Sun Gods (RA)?

Maybe my "religion" is no religion. Am I as guilty as the rest?
You are guilty of nothing more than believing in Reality. I'm right there with you, my friend. Does anyone actually still believe that thunder and lightning are God's way of showing his wrath? What about earthquakes and floods? Is it God's will, or just the nature of our planet? And how many people over the ages have died in the name of religion? That in itself is a huge conundrum. I'd rather put my faith in science and the power of mankind, than the mythical 'Man in the Sky'. But that's just my opinion.

J'Pol

06-29-2003, 08:56 AM

Originally posted by Nightwolf+29 June 2003 - 08:53--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Nightwolf @ 29 June 2003 - 08:53)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Spindulik@28 June 2003 - 11:35
Sorry to offend everyone here, but all of that religion, Satanic, Jesus, Greek Mythology, Indian Spirits, KKK, ALI and the rest are way too much "make believe" for me.

You all can bicker about your "Invisible Guy", whose is the best and such. Damn it is 2003 and need to wake up. Adjust to the times. Anyone still believe in Zues or Pharoh's Sun Gods (RA)?

Maybe my "religion" is no religion. Am I as guilty as the rest?
You are guilty of nothing more than believing in Reality. I'm right there with you, my friend. Does anyone actually still believe that thunder and lightning are God's way of showing his wrath? What about earthquakes and floods? Is it God's will, or just the nature of our planet? And how many people over the ages have died in the name of religion? That in itself is a huge conundrum. I'd rather put my faith in science and the power of mankind, than the mythical 'Man in the Sky'. But that's just my opinion. [/b][/quote]
I am a Christian and I believe in God. I don't believe any of the things you have written there. My understanding of what causes thunder, lightning, floods etc is perfectly fine.

Either you don't understand my beliefs and you ridicule them, or you chose to mis-represent them in order to ridicule them. Either way your behaviour is just plain nasty.

It's really rather amusing that the atheists seem to be more sanctimonious then the religious nowadays.

thewizeard

06-29-2003, 09:27 AM

Originally posted by nigel123@28 June 2003 - 19:33
There are three things I've learned never to discuss with people: religion, politics and the Great Pumkin.
That's because it quite often gets nasty.

Let us please respect each others beliefs. Nobody knows the absolute truth. Untill we find that ultimate truth, we only have our beliefs to cling to.

Cyprian

06-29-2003, 09:36 AM

Originally posted by nigel123+29 June 2003 - 03:27--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (nigel123 @ 29 June 2003 - 03:27)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-nigel123@28 June 2003 - 19:33
There are three things I've learned never to discuss with people: religion, politics and the Great Pumkin.
That's because it quite often gets nasty.

Let us please respect each others beliefs. Nobody knows the absolute truth. Untill we find that ultimate truth, we only have our beliefs to cling to. [/b][/quote]
ah but don't you see, respecting eachother's beliefs is almost impossible. Christians, or rather anyone who is a member of any religion, believe that without-a-doubt there is a higher power(s), who created them/the world and is watching over them/us. BUT the atheists (like myself) do not believe in any form of a "higher" power, and many are scornfull of religious people, seeing them as fools who are willing to believe in anything in order to not feel so alone in the universe. And the religious people look on Atheists with scorn or pitty, because after all the atheists havn't found "god" and that means according to the religious people they are "doomed" ... etc etc

so you see, it's a vicious circle, total tolerance about such things is a long long way away. Truthfully the only way I see complete harmony is if either a) a single religion is adopted by the entire population without question, or B ) religion is scorned and discarded by the entire population.

both are extremly unlikely. or rather, absolutly impossible B)

Nimdock

06-29-2003, 09:38 AM

Originally posted by nigel123@29 June 2003 - 05:27
Nobody knows the absolute truth.
I know it... but I'm not telling.

MagicNakor

06-29-2003, 10:16 AM

Originally posted by Cyprian+29 June 2003 - 10:36--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Cyprian @ 29 June 2003 - 10:36)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-nigel123@29 June 2003 - 03:27

Let us please respect each others beliefs. Nobody knows the absolute truth. Untill we find that ultimate truth, we only have our beliefs to cling to.
...so you see, it's a vicious circle, total tolerance about such things is a long long way away...[/b][/quote]
The easiest beliefs and attitudes to change are your own. It isn't a vicious cycle if you don't perpetuate it.

:ninja:

Edit: quote for length

thewizeard

06-29-2003, 10:27 AM

Originally posted by Nimdock+29 June 2003 - 09:38--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Nimdock @ 29 June 2003 - 09:38)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-nigel123@29 June 2003 - 05:27
Nobody knows the absolute truth.
I know it... but I'm not telling.[/b][/quote]
Quote: Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it. :unsure:

namzuf9

06-29-2003, 10:57 AM

Originally posted by hobbes@29 June 2003 - 04:27
Anyway, I was just having fun and if you thought I was making a personal attack on you, I openly apolgize.

I admit that I was on a soap box, but I feel that I was administering "tough love", not flaming.

Take care,

Hobbes
I never thought you were flaming at all and nothing you said could of offended me so thats cool man.
:devil:

J'Pol

06-29-2003, 11:19 AM

Originally posted by Cyprian+29 June 2003 - 10:36--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Cyprian @ 29 June 2003 - 10:36)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by nigel123@29 June 2003 - 03:27
<!--QuoteBegin-nigel123@28 June 2003 - 19:33
There are three things I've learned never to discuss with people: religion, politics and the Great Pumkin.
That's because it quite often gets nasty.

Let us please respect each others beliefs. Nobody knows the absolute truth. Untill we find that ultimate truth, we only have our beliefs to cling to.
ah but don't you see, respecting eachother's beliefs is almost impossible. Christians, or rather anyone who is a member of any religion, believe that without-a-doubt there is a higher power(s), who created them/the world and is watching over them/us. BUT the atheists (like myself) do not believe in any form of a "higher" power, and many are scornfull of religious people, seeing them as fools who are willing to believe in anything in order to not feel so alone in the universe. And the religious people look on Atheists with scorn or pitty, because after all the atheists havn't found "god" and that means according to the religious people they are "doomed" ... etc etc

so you see, it's a vicious circle, total tolerance about such things is a long long way away. Truthfully the only way I see complete harmony is if either a) a single religion is adopted by the entire population without question, or B ) religion is scorned and discarded by the entire population.

both are extremly unlikely. or rather, absolutly impossible B) [/b][/quote]
Speak for yourself.

I neither scorn nor pity you or your beliefs. I merely disagree with them, whilst defending your right to have and express them.

I think that was amply illustrated earlier when I defended the rights of an atheist who followed the philosophy of the church of satan.