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RainRoofer
07-13-2007, 09:41 AM
http://www.utorrent.com/download.php
http://download.utorrent.com/1.7/utorrent-1.7.txt changelog

mforcex
07-13-2007, 09:43 AM
- Feature: uTorrent now reports your IP and download/upload information to MPAA and RIAA.

game1283
07-13-2007, 09:52 AM
- Feature: uTorrent now reports your IP and download/upload information to MPAA and RIAA.

Oh my goodness! you got me freaking saying "WTF!":D

EDIT:

still bitmetv and others do not alow to use that release..
when do you think they will know and allow this Stable release?

bblogs
07-13-2007, 10:19 AM
- Feature: uTorrent now reports your IP and download/upload information to MPAA and RIAA.

Haha...nice one! :D

kapowcowpwned
07-13-2007, 10:23 AM
Thanks but I think I'm gonna stick with my handy 1.6 until this gets checked for bugs, hacks etc.

KevinGarnet
07-13-2007, 11:04 AM
i think it is good client but i think now for some time i use utorrent 1.6 version until it will be allowed on all trackers..

SKGunners
07-13-2007, 11:05 AM
Thanks for info, Corey but like kapowcowpwned said, I'd stick with 1.61 for a while.

foxe
07-13-2007, 11:18 AM
i use only 1.6 now wait for a wail until its allowd on all trackers :P

KSA
07-13-2007, 11:20 AM
SweEeEeT, TnX Corey for the news.

Fibo
07-13-2007, 11:22 AM
Kind skeptic about upgrading ever since they've been bought out.

Ive got no problems with 1.6. and you know what they say,
If it ain't broke don't fix it.

ghetet
07-13-2007, 11:23 AM
Thanks but I think I'm gonna stick with my handy 1.6 until this gets checked for bugs, hacks etc.
:thumbsup:

kapowcowpwned
07-13-2007, 12:31 PM
Thanks for info, Corey but like kapowcowpwned said, I'd stick with 1.61 for a while.

no no no, u gotta go with just 1.6 not 1.61

Daniel
07-13-2007, 12:33 PM
As long as some trackers don't force me to upgrade my client while others have 1.7 on their ban-list, I don't care about this new version yet ;)

import_fighter
07-13-2007, 01:11 PM
Thanks for the info,ill let time pass and see how the torrent sites accept it.

Roark
07-13-2007, 02:08 PM
Which trackers have banned it? I only know of bitmetv.


- Feature: uTorrent now reports your IP and download/upload information to MPAA and RIAA.

Right, they thought the millions of public tracker users openly revealing their IP were too hard to get at. Much more intelligent to recode an entire client for the purpose!

RainRoofer
07-13-2007, 03:45 PM
Thanks but I think I'm gonna stick with my handy 1.6 until this gets checked for bugs, hacks etc.
Same here, and I'll wait for trackers to aprove it.

WHRST
07-13-2007, 03:50 PM
Will never update above 1.6 most likely.

Tokeman
07-13-2007, 03:57 PM
Will never update above 1.6 most likely.

Until hacks are made for it and trackers ban this older release. Think about it, how many outdated clients are allowed?

You'll upgrade eventually, or you wont torrent with the rest of us.

iNSOMNiA
07-13-2007, 04:03 PM
http://www.torrentfreak.com/images/utorrent.pngAfter months of hard work and nearly half a year after the release of their previous (http://torrentfreak.com/utorrent-161-released/) stable release uTorrent 1.7 finally sees the light. uTorrent 1.7 comes with several new features and some essential changes and big fixes.

uTorrent 1.7 is fully Vista compatible and the 65,536 piece limit for torrents is removed which might improve the download speed of larger torrents.
Other noticeable changes are:

Feature: option to auto update to betas
Feature: automatic upload speed limiting
Feature: Web seed support for single-file torrents
Feature: Local Peer Discovery
Change: Prioritize seed queue based off seed/peer ratio
Change: Improved half-open connection management
Fix: download rate limiting bug
Fix: UPnP mapping when local IP changes
:source: Source: http://torrentfreak.com/utorrent-17-stable-finally-released/
:view: Homepage: http://torrentfreak.com/

Skiz
07-13-2007, 04:17 PM
Mine auto-upgraded I think. It says 1.7.1 but I don't remember upgrading. :unsure:

EDIT: Sorry, misread. This is about stable, not 1.7.1 Beta. Honestly, I thought I was still using 1.6.1 Beta.

Hairbautt
07-13-2007, 04:38 PM
W00t :w00t: d/ling

lynx
07-13-2007, 07:14 PM
Noticed a connection from this yesterday, but didn't realise it was a stable release.

S!X
07-13-2007, 07:31 PM
My dl speed sucks with this version, and it takes forever to connect to people..

delimare
07-13-2007, 08:34 PM
My dl speed sucks with this version, and it takes forever to connect to people..

utorrent 1.6 (build 474) for the win baby.

stander
07-13-2007, 09:31 PM
I'll wait a while before upgrading...
seems that the 1.7 final is still buggy... doesn't report the DL correctly to the tracker. probably they'll release an update soon.


We think we've found the bug, and are testing a fix. Sorry for the hassle and thanks for your patience.

Edit: The bug in reference is the download reporting for the tracker.

FireMan
07-13-2007, 10:09 PM
Thanks Corey for the info.
Upgrade now.;)

:gunsmilie

Gish
07-13-2007, 10:15 PM
I'm Paranoid, I'm paranoid every ones out to get me... like they never met me.

for a freeware products like utorrent the community is what keeps it alive. if there is no community than there is no utorrent. meaning the minute utorrent puts a bug/hack/code in it that reports to the bad people. people will find out about it and stop using it hence no more utorrent hence they would be shooting them selves in the foot and their would be no point to that.
so relax:P

(not saying it would not happen... just unlikely)

kapowcowpwned
07-13-2007, 11:23 PM
Well, the "bad people" you speak of could pay utorrent to do that thus making money off their product. Think of it as selling utorrent to the "bad people".

Gish
07-13-2007, 11:59 PM
Well, the "bad people" you speak of could pay utorrent to do that thus making money off their product. Think of it as selling utorrent to the "bad people".

I mean look at everyone who is watching utorrent closely. so whats the point of putting some hack in utorrent because it probably can be found out easily by some hacker or some mod and when the torrenting community finds out, utorrent (bittorrent inc, MPAA etc.) will loose the company and money!

Edit: I hate what has become of utorrent too and I'm not trying to protect what they really stand for just being the devils advocate.

iNSOMNiA
07-14-2007, 01:16 AM
the 1.7 is banned from BitmeTV :dabs:

dtrain123
07-14-2007, 01:24 AM
Nice. Can't wait to try it out.

Hairbautt
07-14-2007, 02:19 AM
the 1.7 is banned from BitmeTV :dabs:
why? :huh:

edit: yep, my account is still disabled :smilie4:

S!X
07-14-2007, 02:21 AM
edit: yep, my account is still disabled :smilie4:

lol :rolleyes:

samoyan
07-14-2007, 02:25 AM
the 1.7 is banned from BitmeTV :dabs:Yes, they have a bunch of torrent programs that are prohibited to use:)

PooBar
07-14-2007, 02:33 AM
well i'm using 1.7,cant really see much of a change..

iNSOMNiA
07-14-2007, 02:45 AM
the 1.7 is banned from BitmeTV :dabs:
why? :huh:

edit: yep, my account is still disabled :smilie4:

Probably because of cheats, i'm not sure tho



UNAPPROVED CLIENTS
Please read the FAQ on approved clients. Don't become another banned statistic! Yes, Utorrent 1.7 is banned.

PabloEscobar
07-14-2007, 05:15 AM
1.6 works sweetly right now.. Lets wait till this gets accepted at all trackers..

signalearth
07-14-2007, 05:33 AM
someone else will come along and develop the next utorrent... (replacement to utorrent)

deuce6000
07-14-2007, 05:35 AM
I like the way 1.7 cuts torrents that are packs(like with 10 movies)all into there separate folder when you download it.Really comes in handy when you want to pick and chose what to download from a huge pack.

peat moss
07-14-2007, 12:53 PM
Noticed a connection from this yesterday, but didn't realise it was a stable release.



Same here lynx , wanted to read about it first .

Skiz
07-14-2007, 01:06 PM
Failure: Not Authorized (Banned client - READ FAQ!)

Went on IRC and confirmed.

FireMan
07-14-2007, 01:40 PM
This version at the moment is work fine for me in several trackers.
But I think that still it will go to suffer plus alterations and corrections.:yup:

:gunsmilie

Hairbautt
07-14-2007, 01:47 PM
Failure: Not Authorized (Banned client - READ FAQ!)

Went on IRC and confirmed.
Reason?

Hope they will lift the ban cause I lost my copy of v1.6.1 :dabs:

Skiz
07-14-2007, 01:49 PM
Went on IRC and confirmed.
Reason?

Hope they will lift the ban cause I lost my copy of v1.6.1 :dabs:

He wouldn't tell me, so I assume there's a breach somewhere.

Suggested I downgrade to 1.6 "immediatley". Kindly said, no thanks I'll wait it out.

I hear 1.7.1 is already out but he said that's banned too.

Hairbautt
07-14-2007, 01:51 PM
µTorrent 1.7.0.3341 Final (http://www.nsaneproductions.com/forums/?showtopic=7245) :unsure: I stay with nsane for my releases tho' they are a bit late...

TorrentFreak didn't even report any tracker bans...Maybe they'll come thru if they're just paranoid. Or something.

Skiz
07-14-2007, 02:00 PM
µTorrent 1.7.0.3341 Final (http://www.nsaneproductions.com/forums/?showtopic=7245) :unsure: I stay with nsane for my releases tho' they are a bit late...

TorrentFreak didn't even report any tracker bans...Maybe they'll come thru if they're just paranoid. Or something.

Well, utorrent (http://www.utorrent.com/download.php) already has 1.7.1 listed as the latest stable release.

Also, I went on Pedro's IRC right when I got the red arrow in uTorrent, so they had just banned it right then.

EDIT: Just upgraded to 1.7.1 but still banned.

FireMan
07-14-2007, 02:03 PM
Utorrent 1.7.1(build 3360) stable 13-07-2007 download page utorrent now, the last release.;)

:gunsmilie

Skiz
07-14-2007, 02:08 PM
Utorrent 1.7.1(build 3360) stable 13-07-2007 download page utorrent now, the last release.;)

:gunsmilie

You haven't been reading, have you?

FireMan
07-14-2007, 02:20 PM
I have read posts, but now I was without perceiving what you said Skizo.
I am only to try to help. :yup:

:gunsmilie

They forgive me if I put the feet for the hands.

Skiz
07-14-2007, 02:23 PM
No problem.

Perhaps I was the one who misunderstood. ;)

madden player
07-14-2007, 02:33 PM
Reason?
The client reports false download stats, I believe it has been fixed in ut 1.7.1

--- 2007-07-13: Version 1.7.1 (build 3360)
- Fix: Invalid download amounts being reported to trackers for >4GB torrents


Hope they will lift the ban cause I lost my copy of v1.6.1 :dabs:
http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?pid=233108#p233108

FireMan
07-14-2007, 02:37 PM
Already now which the problem in this version 1.7, therefore already I read that an imperfection in the same one exists, which can be used to advantage by badly intentioned people.
It will be really or not?

Thanks;)

:gunsmilie

! ANGEL !
07-14-2007, 06:05 PM
good news
but still used old version

S!X
07-15-2007, 09:05 PM
Man version 1.7 is even banned on bitsoup......suprising.

silvertec
07-15-2007, 10:57 PM
Utorrent is bed with enemy until proven to be safe can't see it won't be used by me,the good sites that care about their members have disallowed it

sear
07-16-2007, 04:30 AM
Man version 1.7 is even banned on bitsoup......suprising.


version 1.7.1 is as well I was quick to go back to 1.6 until 1.7 has been around for a while

DreadWingKnigh
07-16-2007, 05:48 PM
- Feature: uTorrent now reports your IP and download/upload information to MPAA and RIAA.

What sort of proof do you have of this?


All I see here is a "because I said they do".

limpdickkid
07-16-2007, 05:59 PM
Thanks for info, Corey but like kapowcowpwned said, I'd stick with 1.61 for a while.

no no no, u gotta go with just 1.6 not 1.61

It was a really quick upgrade so I doubt anything suspect was added.
I dunno if I should downgrade to 1.6, there was apparently some security flaw in 1.6, if I remember correctly, which is the reason for the upgrade from 1.6 to 1.61.

ACiD
07-16-2007, 06:01 PM
Utorrent 1.7 is banned at DH. I know a bunch of other sites have started banning and I'm sure majority will soon! I wouldn't recommend using it if I were any of you.

Every version > 1.6.1 is Bittorrent Inc., which is directly in partnership with the movie studios. Viacom Inc.'s Paramount Pictures, News Corp.'s 20th Century Fox, Lionsgate, Palm Pictures and Kadokawa Pictures USA etc etc .

In fact versions > 1.7 don't even have the same developer doing it. It's all handled now by Bittorrent Inc's development. The original author (up to 1.6.1) is no longer even part of the project.


Right from uTorrent's FAQ

"Who makes µTorrent?

Ludvig Strigeus (ludde) is the original author and former maintainer of µTorrent.

BitTorrent Inc's developers are the current maintainers of µTorrent. "

If you want to use a client that is endorsed by the MPAA/RIAA have fun!

limpdickkid
07-16-2007, 06:08 PM
- Feature: uTorrent now reports your IP and download/upload information to MPAA and RIAA.

What sort of proof do you have of this?


All I see here is a "because I said they do".

@DreadWingKnigh - This is why:


Utorrent 1.7 is banned at DH. I know a bunch of other sites have started banning and I'm sure majority will soon! I wouldn't recommend using it if I were any of you.

Every version > 1.6.1 is Bittorrent Inc., which is directly in partnership with the movie studios. Viacom Inc.'s Paramount Pictures, News Corp.'s 20th Century Fox, Lionsgate, Palm Pictures and Kadokawa Pictures USA etc etc .

In fact versions > 1.7 don't even have the same developer doing it. It's all handled now by Bittorrent Inc's development. The original author (up to 1.6.1) is no longer even part of the project.


Right from uTorrent's FAQ

"Who makes µTorrent?

Ludvig Strigeus (ludde) is the original author and former maintainer of µTorrent.

BitTorrent Inc's developers are the current maintainers of µTorrent. "

If you want to use a client that is endorsed by the MPAA/RIAA have fun!

DreadWingKnigh
07-16-2007, 06:09 PM
I'll be straightforward here.

All I see in the line of posts endorsing the ban in this thread are unfounded claims with no hard evidence.

Where's the proof that this client reports back to the *AAs?





What sort of proof do you have of this?


All I see here is a "because I said they do".

@DreadWingKnigh - This is why:


Utorrent 1.7 is banned at DH. I know a bunch of other sites have started banning and I'm sure majority will soon! I wouldn't recommend using it if I were any of you.

Every version > 1.6.1 is Bittorrent Inc., which is directly in partnership with the movie studios. Viacom Inc.'s Paramount Pictures, News Corp.'s 20th Century Fox, Lionsgate, Palm Pictures and Kadokawa Pictures USA etc etc .

In fact versions > 1.7 don't even have the same developer doing it. It's all handled now by Bittorrent Inc's development. The original author (up to 1.6.1) is no longer even part of the project.


Right from uTorrent's FAQ

"Who makes µTorrent?

Ludvig Strigeus (ludde) is the original author and former maintainer of µTorrent.

BitTorrent Inc's developers are the current maintainers of µTorrent. "

If you want to use a client that is endorsed by the MPAA/RIAA have fun!


That's still a "because I say they do". There's no hard evidence saying that the MPAA/RIAA are actually endorsing this client actively.

ACiD
07-16-2007, 06:15 PM
I'll be straightforward here.

All I see in the line of posts endorsing the ban in this thread are unfounded claims with no hard evidence.

Where's the proof that this client reports back to the *AAs?



What proof do you want? lol Your using a client that is endorsed by the MPAA/RIAA do you think they are involved just for fun and to see utorrent succeed as a great client? Are you that ignorant?

If you want proof, use utorrent 1.7, grab pg2 or something similar and watch for the following ip hits.

"64.124.145.113
64.124.145.104
206.169.225.92
64.34.174.141
64.34.172.152
206.169.170.246
206.169.230.102"

Feel free to trace those if you like and see where they end up. Why use a torrent client upgraded with the help of the MPAA when you can use clients like halite or azureus etc? Doesn't make much sense to me. Some people will never be convinced until they have someone show up at their door! If you didn't know that Bittorent Inc is in partnership with MPAA/RIAA then you really don't read the news very often.

DreadWingKnigh
07-16-2007, 06:16 PM
PG2's blocklists are overbearing and inaccurate. I won't use them.

Use wireshark and give me the actual information transferred to and from those IP addresses.

ACiD
07-16-2007, 06:20 PM
PG2's blocklists are overbearing and inaccurate. I won't use them.

Use wireshark and give me the actual information transferred to and from those IP addresses.

Dude, honestly. Do your own tests, I am just saying I wouldn't recommend anyone to use it and that torrent sites will ban it for the very reasons I have stated above. If you don't want to believe me then don't, I don't really give a shit if you get busted. Don't say I didn't warn you!

There are a lot of alternatives you can use without taking the risk, I love utorrent just like anyone else and still use 1.6.1.

DreadWingKnigh
07-16-2007, 06:21 PM
IF you're going to make the claims that uT sends info back to the RIAA/MPAA, at least have the decency to have the proof of WHAT info they're sending back.



PG2's blocklists are overbearing and inaccurate. I won't use them.

Use wireshark and give me the actual information transferred to and from those IP addresses.

Dude, honestly. Do your own tests, I am just saying I wouldn't recommend anyone to use it and that torrent sites will ban it for the very reasons I have stated above. If you don't want to believe me then don't, I don't really give a shit if you get busted. Don't say I didn't warn you!

There are a lot of alternatives you can use without taking the risk, I love utorrent just like anyone else and still use 1.6.1.

I did my own tests with wireshark (http://www.wireshark.org) and found that 1.7.1 didn't even attempt ANY traffic to the IP addresses you claim it does.

Also, http://www.p2pnet.net/story/12790

fstrulz
07-16-2007, 07:41 PM
DreadWingKnigh = MPAA/RIAA

:lol:

Pluto
07-16-2007, 08:05 PM
yup. Iam sticking with 1.6.1 until halite is fully developed. Its lacking alot of neccessary features currently.

weenden
07-16-2007, 08:10 PM
some sites dont allow it so be careful

ACiD
07-16-2007, 08:19 PM
IF you're going to make the claims that uT sends info back to the RIAA/MPAA, at least have the decency to have the proof of WHAT info they're sending back.




Dude, honestly. Do your own tests, I am just saying I wouldn't recommend anyone to use it and that torrent sites will ban it for the very reasons I have stated above. If you don't want to believe me then don't, I don't really give a shit if you get busted. Don't say I didn't warn you!

There are a lot of alternatives you can use without taking the risk, I love utorrent just like anyone else and still use 1.6.1.

I did my own tests with wireshark (http://www.wireshark.org) and found that 1.7.1 didn't even attempt ANY traffic to the IP addresses you claim it does.

Also, http://www.p2pnet.net/story/12790

Congratulations! I have tested with about 10 other people all getting the same reporting as myself.

I will give some links to you as well quoting the news:

http://www.slyck.com/story1006.html
http://www.slyck.com/story1357.html

Seriously man, MPAA is involved with Bittorrent Inc, Utorrent was bought by Bittorrent Inc back in December, this is a FACT! Seven months go by and 1.7 is released. Do you honestly believe that the MPAA are helping to make a torrent client better? Seriously, use your head man, think about it for 10 minutes before you respond. Why would the MPAA be involved in bittorrent inc and utorrent if they weren't getting anything out of it?! Have they changed their mind about piracy all together? If this isn't the case why wouldn't they make the code open source so people can squash these reports once and for all?

The fact that the MPAA is involved is enough evidence not to use the torrent client! There is a reason why some torrent sites have banned it and the rest will be soon to follow. Even if through your testing you didn't find any weird ip hits, do you think you never will? Test it for a week and see what happens.

If you want a good alternative, just like utorrent with out the mpaa involvement try this: http://www.binarynotions.com/halite.php

OR stick with Utorrent 1.6.1

If you want to continue using it then go ahead, I'm not going to try to convince you any further. I was explaining why some sites have banned it and why I wouldn't recommend it, thats all, warning the users of FST.

What does 1.7 give you that is soooo desirable that you would take that risk? The differences between it and 1.6.1 are minimal at best.

sear
07-16-2007, 08:24 PM
all this UTorrent bashing is all a bit conspiracy theory for me, though I'm not saying it's not true. I'm just gonna stick to 1.6.1. if it aint broke don't fix it.

DreadWingKnigh
07-16-2007, 08:36 PM
Congratulations! I have tested with about 10 other people all getting the same reporting as myself.
And what information is PG2 giving you beyond the fact that the traffic is blocked?

Nothing.

Give me wireshark log entries for the packets going to/from those IPs, and I might consider believing your saying that uT is sending info. Otherwise, don't claim it is.

sp0ngeb0b
07-16-2007, 08:46 PM
I installed the latest µTorrent 1.7 a few hours ago and the MPAA is at my door right now. Wish me luck.

sear
07-16-2007, 09:01 PM
I installed the latest µTorrent 1.7 a few hours ago and the MPAA is at my door right now. Wish me luck.

see any doubters there's your proof...everyone else who's got 1.7 better get ready, quick trash your hard drives :lol:

Seriously though it's best to remain warry seing as it's banned by a number of trackers.

Tokeman
07-16-2007, 09:02 PM
they said that the mpaa and Bram Cohen were working to remove copyright material from Bram's search engine. They say nothing about working with the mpaa to target anyone using the client. Just because Bram Cohen is willing to remove links from his search engine, does not in any way mean he is working hand in hand with anything the MPAA wants. Get real. No buisness is going to let an outside force run their buisness without a fight.
He's only doing what google, filemirrors, and other big sites are doing, removing links, nothing more.
Quit spreading rumor and propoganda that has no evedence to support it, or, PROVE ME WRONG.

Edit: Sites also normally ban each release as it comes out of beta. They just want to thouroughly test it first. And guess what, soon enough, they unban it, and say you must upgrade, then they ban the older version due to hacks.
Take a look down history lane.

wildbytes
07-16-2007, 09:34 PM
We have also baned Utorrent 1.7 and 1.7.1 and all new releases for utorrent. If you wish to use utorrent on wb you must use 1.6 and 1.6.1 for now.



Wild

merlin05
07-16-2007, 09:41 PM
We have now banned µtorrent 1.7 an 1.7.1, and now redirected members back to 1.6.1 release.

Should have guessed something like this would happen when bram got his hands on it.

Tokeman
07-16-2007, 09:52 PM
Um, are you guys just jumping on the band wagon and believing the rumors? Or is there actually some shred of proof that just hasn't made it beyond sysops of torrent sites?

Gish
07-16-2007, 10:58 PM
Um, are you guys just jumping on the band wagon and believing the rumors? Or is there actually some shred of proof that just hasn't made it beyond sysops of torrent sites?


Thats was My question too. any proof before spreading rumors?

wildbytes
07-16-2007, 11:08 PM
no its something we have been looking at over the last 2 to 3 days. We have talked to other staff and owners else where and did some testing and we feel at this point in time to ban these 2 releases. 1 reason is it still does not report right on wb.




Wild

DreadWingKnigh
07-16-2007, 11:11 PM
Have you talked to the uTorrent devs to get your concerns addressed?

sear
07-16-2007, 11:32 PM
Have you talked to the uTorrent devs to get your concerns addressed?

Good question I'd be curious to hear what the UTorrent staff have to say about this one might have to go have a look at the forums.

willy101
07-16-2007, 11:40 PM
here's what I found on a private tracker forum about this release
Hope this helps


Is it allowed here?
NO

Why?

uTorrent 1.7, NO other torrents going other then 1 linux iso torrent, no other applications running (actually running in wine), separate dedicated IP = Mediasentry IP hits 36.

Halite, same torrent, same system = 0 Media sentry IP hits.

Every version > 1.6.1 is Bittorrent Inc., which is directly in partnership with the movie studios. Viacom Inc.'s Paramount Pictures, News Corp.'s 20th Century Fox, Lionsgate, Palm Pictures and Kadokawa Pictures USA etc etc .

In fact versions > 1.7 don't even have the same developer doing it. It's all handled now by Bittorrent Inc's development. The original author (up to 1.6.1) is no longer even part of the project.


Right from uTorrent's FAQ

"Who makes µTorrent?

Ludvig Strigeus (ludde) is the original author and former maintainer of µTorrent.

BitTorrent Inc's developers are the current maintainers of µTorrent. "

Will it ever be allowed?

NO

If your in doubt trrace these IP's that were blocked from outgoing through my firewall with uTorrent 1.7

64.124.145.113
64.124.145.104
206.169.225.92
64.34.174.141
64.34.172.152
206.169.170.246
206.169.230.102


Link to utorrent 1.6.1:

http://download.utorrent.com/1.6.1/utorrent.exe

DreadWingKnigh
07-16-2007, 11:45 PM
Actually, it provides no legitimate information backing up the bans.
It provides no proof that there is any information being exchanged.
It provides no proof that any sensitive data is being exchanged.

None of these posts by detractors provide any proof to back up the claims that uT is actually doing anything wrong. It's just rumours, tinfoil hat posts and bandwagons.

ACiD
07-17-2007, 12:34 AM
Actually, it provides no legitimate information backing up the bans.
It provides no proof that there is any information being exchanged.
It provides no proof that any sensitive data is being exchanged.

None of these posts by detractors provide any proof to back up the claims that uT is actually doing anything wrong. It's just rumours, tinfoil hat posts and bandwagons.

LOL!

The fact of the matter is we are just letting you guys know our reasons for banning utorrent 1.7+, you can still use it if you want. Our reasons are ours weather we have access to more information or "hard proof" doesn't really matter, we banned it on our sites because of what we know, other sites with similar information are doing the same. Why are we banning it? To protect our users and our sites.

It's as simple as that, you can continue using it as long as you want, you just might not be able to do it on a bunch of private trackers. If you don't use the sites that are banning it then don't worry about it! :cool:

I only came in here to explain why sites are banning it and to warn the users not to use it. You can believe that we have our reasons for doing it or not, I really don't care anymore. I've gave enough reasons not to use the client, I'm not going to play with the ignorant and keep explaining. Happy Torrenting! I'm out! ;)


@willy101 - Thats the post on the DH forums that I'm representing, I posted it earlier a few pages back.

henrypijames
07-17-2007, 01:19 AM
I don't know where people get the impressino that Bram were an "evil" guy - he really isn't. As someone who's been a member of the BitTorrent developer team and who designed the previous BitTorrent logo as well as the previous BitTorrent web site (before BitTorrent Inc. was founded and took over the project), I had a few longer chat sessions with Bram, in which we talked about personal histories and exchanged social-political views. From what I can tell, for a guy who's trying to make a business, Bram is as nice as you can get - even less evil than Google, I'd say. ;)

PS: In case anyone wonders, I never had nor currently have a business relationship with Bram, BitTorrent Inc., or any other entity involved with BitTorrent. The works I did for the BitTorrent project was for free.

merlin05
07-17-2007, 01:22 AM
I have now edited this post, as I have now had a chance to test 1.7.1 myself, and can find no evidence to backup the claim that this version reports anything to anyone.

The temp ban has now been lifted on my site.

DreadWingKnigh
07-17-2007, 01:45 AM
You could also spin that round and say theres no hard evidence to discredit that it's not a reporting tool either.
One wireshark log coming right up.
http://depthstrike.com/~dwknight/wireshark-utorrent.pcap
Not one of the IP addresses in the above post came up during the capture.

Smoovious
07-17-2007, 02:30 AM
Personally, DWK... the line I found the funniest in all of this was "we banned it on our sites because of what we know"...

Which logically means, they've banned it for absolutely nothing...

-- Smoovious

Roark
07-17-2007, 02:58 AM
I hate when people muddy the waters by pretending there's two sides to a story when there's not.

1) First of all, note that of the most respected and skilled torrent admins and coders: djGrrr, Retro, Zlo, even Oink/TMT, none of them spout this bullshit about uTorrent being spyware.

2) Firon, a developer for uTorrent, is also an admin on HDBits, where uTorrent is obviously a recommended client. I eagerly await ACiD's "proof" that HDBits is simply a front for the MPAA.

3) The fact that these people are using PG2 to prove their point ought to be self-discrediting. Using PG2 at all is generally a sure sign of incompetence.

4) Examine their conspiracy theory for a second: According to them, instead of the MPAA going after the hundreds of thousands of people openly publishing their IPs by using public trackers, the MPAA decided it would be simpler and more cost-effective to redesign a client for the purpose of ... mining IPs.

As sk0t found out, when the MPAA is after your site, you'll know about it.

Dr_Green_Thumb
07-17-2007, 03:23 AM
im using it and its great it has a PM button straight to the CIA

yoyogi4
07-17-2007, 12:42 PM
im using it and its great it has a PM button straight to the CIA
:w00t::D It rats itself out!!! So you or your ISP don't have too!!!
But really 1.6 will eventually become a relic.

peat moss
07-17-2007, 01:46 PM
Went on IRC and confirmed.
Reason?

Hope they will lift the ban cause I lost my copy of v1.6.1 :dabs:



Here's a copy of 1.6.1 :

http://www.oldversion.com/program.php?n=utorrent

Busyman™
07-17-2007, 05:14 PM
Cool I'm still using 1.6.1.

I won't bother to upgrade.

merlin05
07-17-2007, 05:58 PM
I've now had a chance to test 1.7.1 for myself, I've just sat for hours on end watching wireshark (thrilling) I can now say that I have no worries about lifting the temp ban on 1.7.1 on my site. I have also sent out a pm to all members stating this as well. I don't know where the source of this information came from that it was a reporting tool for the MPAA, but as far as I can see it's complete bullshit http://forum.utorrent.com/img/smilies/smile.png
I'll be the first to admit that I did ban it last night until I had the chance to discredit the allegations, but that was purely a precautionary measure.

Normal service has resumed and µtorrent is back to the primary download client on my site http://forum.utorrent.com/img/smilies/smile.png

Moonspell13
07-17-2007, 06:09 PM
Funny so many newcomers support 1.7.1 ... Makes me wonder..
Anyway do whatever you want, the ppl told what they think/know and shared their thoughts with us.. act at your own risk now ;)

merlin05
07-17-2007, 07:52 PM
If you think I'm a newcomer I think you should have checked my profile first. Just cos I don't post a lot on here, don't mean I'm a n00b :lol:

Join Date: 09-14-06

Infact I've been here longer than you

Join Date: 10-21-06 <<<< your signup date :lol:

Just cos I don't spam the crap out of every thread don't mean I'm not active here

mestari
07-17-2007, 07:56 PM
<3 1.6.1. Until death do us apart..!
I tried 1.7.1 too and it was working just fine but it's not allowed everywhere...!

iNSOMNiA
07-17-2007, 08:03 PM
Reason?

Hope they will lift the ban cause I lost my copy of v1.6.1 :dabs:



Here's a copy of 1.6.1 :

http://www.oldversion.com/program.php?n=utorrent

Thx peat i had forgotten to back it up :dabs:
i couldn't use BitmeTV / SCT and i had to dowload Azureus :O

peat moss
07-18-2007, 12:53 AM
Here's a copy of 1.6.1 :

http://www.oldversion.com/program.php?n=utorrent

Thx peat i had forgotten to back it up :dabs:
i couldn't use BitmeTV / SCT and i had to dowload Azureus :O


Hey no problem but the OP had a link I did n't see at first to 1.6.1 build 490 :

http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=19865

RainRoofer
07-18-2007, 06:00 AM
It look like that 1.7.1 is secure to use, judging by HDBits admins.

magister
07-18-2007, 06:13 AM
I don't think there's a problem with it, most of the sites will aprove it in the next few days

Enlightened
07-18-2007, 10:13 AM
Having pooblems alraedy, sT won't load up torrents here, Revert abck to V1.61, works perfectly.also, my DSL connection keeps breaking up and Reconnecting with V1.71

Hairbautt
07-18-2007, 02:55 PM
Hmmm, someone posted a redirect in the News Section. Good stuff, too.

Check here for more: Utorrent 1.7 and above security in question! Check your trackers! (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-news-section-95/t-utorrent-17-and-above-security-question-check-your-trackers-206961)

And merged topics. Oh.

Michellin
07-18-2007, 03:41 PM
Most torrent sites are banning the new update by uTorrent. Too bad they were taken over by Bittorent...:cry: Now have to switch to Azureus for the meantime

vikram_mavi
07-18-2007, 06:08 PM
Iam usin it without any prob!!

kazaaman
07-23-2007, 10:46 PM
1.7.2 came out a few days ago. The security hole is patched and most trackers should start unbanning it now.

nanotek
07-24-2007, 12:22 PM
using 1.5 and having no probs at all :D

Hairbautt
07-24-2007, 04:22 PM
I noticed PG2 has updated their blocklists to say "Bittorrent Inc" instead of that Swift w/e...

Anyways...It blocks it every so often on port 6881. I have automatic updates disabled, too. :dabs:

Brenya
08-01-2007, 02:15 AM
i'm migrating to azureus 2.5 ... any one else?

brotherdoobie
08-01-2007, 09:49 AM
I hate when people muddy the waters by pretending there's two sides to a story when there's not.

1) First of all, note that of the most respected and skilled torrent admins and coders: djGrrr, Retro, Zlo, even Oink/TMT, none of them spout this bullshit about uTorrent being spyware.

2) Firon, a developer for uTorrent, is also an admin on HDBits, where uTorrent is obviously a recommended client. I eagerly await ACiD's &quot;proof&quot; that HDBits is simply a front for the MPAA.

3) The fact that these people are using PG2 to prove their point ought to be self-discrediting. Using PG2 at all is generally a sure sign of incompetence.

4) Examine their conspiracy theory for a second: According to them, instead of the MPAA going after the hundreds of thousands of people openly publishing their IPs by using public trackers, the MPAA decided it would be simpler and more cost-effective to redesign a client for the purpose of ... mining IPs.

As sk0t found out, when the MPAA is after your site, you'll know about it.


Fair point.


-bd

Colt Seevers
08-01-2007, 12:36 PM
I see the paranoid knobjockeys @ bitmetv.org have still to unban utorrent 1.7.2.

...tossers!

fibonachi
08-02-2007, 08:55 AM
utorrent 1.6 is the best.

pbjabba
08-02-2007, 10:30 AM
I highly doubt theres any kind of snooping built into this new version, even so i went back to 1.6... just in case lol

Smoovious
08-03-2007, 01:13 PM
Way to back up your convictions there, pbjabba... .. .

-- Smoovious

low_dirt
08-03-2007, 08:32 PM
@ACiD

Read all 12 f'n pages of this post and the whole BitTorrent Inc/Viacom thing makes my palms sweat! Right or wrong, you make interesting points. Better safe than sorry these days. I'm downgrading 1.7.2 for 1.6.1 tonight (thanks for link peatmoss!). Curious about this Halite... checking it out asap. Anyone know if 1.6.1 supports the WebUI?