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upGrayde
07-16-2007, 03:59 AM
alright, let's be real here

who, out of all you supposed righteous do-gooders that like to act like they're little angels, has cheated at a bittorrent site before?

i have

necromantic
07-16-2007, 04:02 AM
i have

Lynch Him!!!!!!

upGrayde
07-16-2007, 04:17 AM
stfu i'll stab you

eLucid
07-16-2007, 04:18 AM
You're alone.

sear
07-16-2007, 04:45 AM
alright, let's be real here

who, out of all you supposed righteous do-gooders that like to act like they're little angels, has cheated at a bittorrent site before?

i have

better hide dude :ph34r: no one likes a cheater...

what's with all the cheating threads atm?

Skiz
07-16-2007, 04:56 AM
alright, let's be real here

who, out of all you supposed righteous do-gooders that like to act like they're little angels, has cheated at a bittorrent site before?

i have

better hide dude :ph34r: no one likes a cheater...

what's with all the cheating threads atm?

I dunno, but every time I see a noob come on here giving away or trading away an account(s) with 2TB buffers, etc. I can't help but think they all cheated to get there.

I have a 1TB buffer on TL, but that account is 76 weeks old as well. My next highest buffer on any tracker is probably Blackcats with 100GB buffer.

iNSOMNiA
07-16-2007, 05:21 AM
Yea those 1TB buffer offered by members from countries where adsl is barely available always sounded dodgy to me as well.
/back to topic: i've never cheated because it's totally against the all idea of the BT protocol and it's never been a problem for me with 2Mbits UP to keep a ratio above 2 even on the most "hard to seed" trackers.

sear
07-16-2007, 05:26 AM
I dunno, but every time I see a noob come on here giving away or trading away an account(s) with 2TB buffers, etc. I can't help but think they all cheated to get there.

I have a 1TB buffer on TL, but that account is 76 weeks old as well. My next highest buffer on any tracker is probably Blackcats with 100GB buffer.

There's like three cheating threads going at the moment :blink:

Giving away a TB buffer does seem mighty suspicious. Why would you want to get rid of an account you worked hard to build up. In my case I'd have to cheat to build a buffer like that as I live in Australia and our connections suck. which is why all my accounts only have a few gigs buffer but that's enough for me I only want what I can use.

upGrayde
07-16-2007, 05:28 AM
bunch of fucking pussies

if it helps, i'm not aiming at those hyper crazy cheaters

i'm talking about cheating just to help you get rid of a warning, or help your ratio, you know, the cheating with valid reason

should have made this a poll

sear
07-16-2007, 05:32 AM
bunch of fucking pussies

if it helps, i'm not aiming at those hyper crazy cheaters

i'm talking about cheating just to help you get rid of a warning, or help your ratio, you know, the cheating with valid reason

should have made this a poll

ah a white cheat :shifty:

iNSOMNiA
07-16-2007, 05:32 AM
if your connexion sucks and you're too lazy to seed back the porn pack you leeched stick to newsgroups or go hit'n run on KaZaa

Cmon
07-16-2007, 05:38 AM
nope, being accused 1-2 times though :(

sear
07-16-2007, 05:42 AM
if your connexion sucks and you're too lazy to seed back the porn pack you leeched stick to newsgroups or go hit'n run on KaZaa

agreed.

there's really no need to cheat no matter what your connection is mines not so good (I average about 300kb / 80kb for torrents) and I've never felt the need. I figure people mainly do it for the fun of fucking around

upGrayde
07-16-2007, 05:49 AM
bunch of fucking pussies

if it helps, i'm not aiming at those hyper crazy cheaters

i'm talking about cheating just to help you get rid of a warning, or help your ratio, you know, the cheating with valid reason

should have made this a poll

ah a white cheat :shifty:


HAHA 'white cheat', i like it

Cybel
07-16-2007, 06:01 AM
lol don't think this thread is going where upGrayde was thinking

Alco23
07-16-2007, 06:52 AM
Giving away a TB buffer does seem mighty suspicious. Why would you want to get rid of an account you worked hard to build up. In my case I'd have to cheat to build a buffer like that as I live in Australia and our connections suck. which is why all my accounts only have a few gigs buffer but that's enough for me I only want what I can use.

Aussie connections are not as bad as you might imply. The 1Mb/s upload speed is more than sufficient to get at least a 2:1 (upload:download) on most trackers (including ScT). And I agree with you that it's more than enough to maintain a good buffer to be a good user.

The TB buffers that people offer are mighty suspicious, especially the relatively new accounts. Even with seedboxes it's highly improbable to get those huge buffers in such short time (few weeks or in some very stupid cases, few days). You probably need a combination of freeleech and x2 uploads to get close realistically...

I can only think of two reasons why a user would cheat so much for these stupidly large buffers (TB buffers):
1. e-penis
2. As a result of tracker trading and trying to obtain something "ranked higher".

Reasons for "normal" cheating (GB buffers):
1. Curious on how cheating works and just tried.
2. Used as an easy escape route to dig themselves out of a negative ratio hole.
3. Just a bad/lazy user.

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A VALID REASON TO CHEAT!

Personally I have never cheated and have never felt the urge to. Defeats the whole purpose of bittorrenting and sharing in general. Cheaters deserve the harsh punishment they get.

TheEmperor
07-16-2007, 06:59 AM
I never cheated on any tracker and never thought of doing this

sear
07-16-2007, 07:05 AM
Giving away a TB buffer does seem mighty suspicious. Why would you want to get rid of an account you worked hard to build up. In my case I'd have to cheat to build a buffer like that as I live in Australia and our connections suck. which is why all my accounts only have a few gigs buffer but that's enough for me I only want what I can use.

Aussie connections are not as bad as you might imply. The 1Mb/s upload speed is more than sufficient to get at least a 2:1 (upload:download) on most trackers (including ScT). And I agree with you that it's more than enough to maintain a good buffer to be a good user.

don't get me wrong I find my speed is fine for my needs but when you compare it to the states for example we just can't compete.

nihility
07-16-2007, 07:07 AM
don't get me wrong I find my speed is fine for my needs but when you compare it to the states for example we just can't compete.

some adsl2+ plans may be changing to annexM connections and thatll make upload jump to 3mbit/s i think its iinet thats trialling it atm

edit: actually its internode :P

KSA
07-16-2007, 07:11 AM
What's the point of BT if we didn't share ... Sharing is Caring.

mforcex
07-16-2007, 07:12 AM
That dude Skyzo or whatever had like a 4:1 ratio at oink before being banned. A reason for him to cheat would be because he is pissed at oink so he gets even by cheating.

Hmmm other reasons to cheat
-To see if you can
-Your connection sucks
-You have no hard drive space and want to burn your download
-

I doubt people cheat because they are lazy and don't feel like seeding back.

sear
07-16-2007, 07:14 AM
don't get me wrong I find my speed is fine for my needs but when you compare it to the states for example we just can't compete.

some adsl2+ plans may be changing to annexM connections and thatll make upload jump to 3mbit/s i think its iinet thats trialling it atm

edit: actually its internode :P

that sounds pretty good. My adsl2+ speed tests at around 8Mb/1Mb but getting that in the real world is next to impossible.

btw sorry for hijacking this thread

nihility
07-16-2007, 07:18 AM
that sounds pretty good. My adsl2+ speed tests at around 8Mb/1Mb but getting that in the real world is next to impossible.

btw sorry for hijacking this thread

yeah that 1mbit cap really annoys me, i get like 13mb down though :P i guess im closer to exchange than you.
anyway, 1mb is better than alot of arabian coutried that have 128up, thats why those countries get banned and thats why they cheat, its not that they dont want to upload (probably) its just impossible on such bad connections

0Ri0N
07-16-2007, 07:37 AM
Cheating is for losers that don't understand the spirit of P2P!
Burn them all.

etybdh
07-16-2007, 07:37 AM
i have never cheated ..and hitler never existed

am pretty sure 90% cheats but doesnt want to admit it.. i mean they all have huge buffers at TL and sites with no anti cheating script ..but when it comes to oink its a totally different story

nihility
07-16-2007, 07:46 AM
^ yeah but oinks also hard to seed at because the files are mainly small (albums - 50-100mb)

Crappy
07-16-2007, 07:48 AM
^ yeah but oinks also hard to seed at because the files are mainly small (albums - 50-100mb)


Well, it isn't so hard for one bulgarian user. He seeds with uTorrent and downloads with Azureus. :blink:

JA
07-16-2007, 07:50 AM
that sounds pretty good. My adsl2+ speed tests at around 8Mb/1Mb but getting that in the real world is next to impossible.

btw sorry for hijacking this thread

yeah that 1mbit cap really annoys me, i get like 13mb down though :P i guess im closer to exchange than you.
anyway, 1mb is better than alot of arabian coutried that have 128up, thats why those countries get banned and thats why they cheat, its not that they dont want to upload (probably) its just impossible on such bad connections
Im on ADSL 2+ With Exetel, they use the optus lines, great company cheap prices :). Usually get 13k/800 DL/UL At speedtest.net

On Utorrent, i can hit 2MB/sec but then i go into 100% Disk overload and it slows back down to 1MB/sec ;)

sear
07-16-2007, 07:59 AM
yeah that 1mbit cap really annoys me, i get like 13mb down though :P i guess im closer to exchange than you.
anyway, 1mb is better than alot of arabian coutried that have 128up, thats why those countries get banned and thats why they cheat, its not that they dont want to upload (probably) its just impossible on such bad connections
Im on ADSL 2+ With Exetel, they use the optus lines, great company cheap prices :). Usually get 13k/800 DL/UL At speedtest.net

On Utorrent, i can hit 2MB/sec but then i go into 100% Disk overload and it slows back down to 1MB/sec ;)

nice one I used to be with exetel but am on TPG atm found it was a bit cheaper :)

JA
07-16-2007, 08:10 AM
Im on ADSL 2+ With Exetel, they use the optus lines, great company cheap prices :). Usually get 13k/800 DL/UL At speedtest.net

On Utorrent, i can hit 2MB/sec but then i go into 100% Disk overload and it slows back down to 1MB/sec ;)

nice one I used to be with exetel but am on TPG atm found it was a bit cheaper :)
Exetel i find to have better customer service :). TPG I find drops out a few too often and gives me the shits.

Sorry for offtopicness, but your talking about cheating so yeh...

Alco23
07-16-2007, 08:10 AM
^ yeah but oinks also hard to seed at because the files are mainly small (albums - 50-100mb)

Yeah OiNK is a little harder to seed than most. But that said you can upload your own files and it's very easy to keep a ratio. Just upload a few nice FLAC albums and you're set. My OiNK buffer is comparable to the buffer on my regular trackers this way. Love my OiNK FLAC files :).

nihility
07-16-2007, 08:18 AM
yeah im on tpg
30gb :( hopefully going to the 150gb soon if my mum stops being a cunt rofl

JA
07-16-2007, 08:34 AM
yeah im on tpg
30gb :( hopefully going to the 150gb soon if my mum stops being a cunt rofl
On Exetel, between 12 am and 12 PM free downloads :P Once you pass 40 gigs you get "Slowed" but i don't see any real difference :) Oh and 12 gig off peak for $60 including telephone rental which is worth $25 :) I<3Exetel

sear
07-16-2007, 08:49 AM
nice one I used to be with exetel but am on TPG atm found it was a bit cheaper :)
Exetel i find to have better customer service :). TPG I find drops out a few too often and gives me the shits.

Sorry for offtopicness, but your talking about cheating so yeh...

so far so good for me on TPG though I've only been with them for about a week so I guess we'll see. Not really sure about the customer service over at Exetel it kind of sux as well but it isn't a problem because it's CHEAP ;)

nihility
07-16-2007, 08:50 AM
soudns good JA,
but tpg 150gb for $70 :O
110 of that is off peak though :P
even so, thatd be alright for me, id schedule things, or just start before i goto bed

JA
07-16-2007, 09:15 AM
soudns good JA,
but tpg 150gb for $70 :O
110 of that is off peak though :P
even so, thatd be alright for me, id schedule things, or just start before i goto bed
Speeds on Exetel are pretty good aswell...i average 1.5MB/Sec on 5 torrents all up. Single torrents usually go at 700 KB/Sec :) So yeh im happy.

Anyhow, thats my Sunday Night FST posting, ill be back in 1 week :)

balbaid
07-16-2007, 10:02 AM
I have 128Kbps, I had to rent a server ( vectoral ) for 2 months and buffered my bitmetv,bitsoup,torrent-damage account and I got banned from blackcats because i upped too much ( 80gig in a file with 1 seeder and 400 leechers )

nihility
07-16-2007, 10:03 AM
Anyhow, thats my Sunday Night FST posting, ill be back in 1 week :)

today is monday? lolz

JA
07-16-2007, 10:18 AM
Anyhow, thats my Sunday Night FST posting, ill be back in 1 week :)

today is monday? lolz
School development day :lol::lol:

KevinGarnet
07-16-2007, 10:24 AM
cheating i think must be not tolerated.. and nobody likes cheaters.. so this thread i think isn't interesting..