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haydeno
08-06-2007, 12:54 AM
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YOU HAVE UNTIL 08/15/2007 TO BACKUP YOUR STUFF AND FIND ANOTHER PROVIDER
I APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE FOR THE HARDSHIP THIS ANNOUNCEMENT HAS CAUSED YOU.
IF YOU HAVE A SUBSCRIPTION THAT EXTENDS BEYOND 08/15/2007 I CAN REFUND
YOU THE UNUSED DAYS.CUSTOMERS ON THE TZ SERIES OF VMS YOUR SERVICE WILL
CONTINUE AND YOU CAN IGNORE THIS NOTICE FOR CUSTOMERS NEEDING MORE TIME,
THE SERVERS CAN REMAIN CONNECTED UNTIL 08/19/2007 BUT NO LATER, AS I HAVE
TO MAKE ARRANGEMENTS TO HAVE THE SYSTEM REMOVED FROM THE DATACENTER
AND THAT COULD TAKE SEVERAL DAYS.
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After careful consideration and analysis I have decided to discontinue LeeWare
Development UVM Service. The Service is debt free. However, as the owner and
operator of this service it has been a lost investment. While I can
technically continue the service, I think that it is best If I cut my losses
sooner than later. There have been many successes and also some
failures.

In terms of success, I came to the VM market about 2 years late, built and
name for myself and established a niche product offering. I completely
capitalized on the good-value-for-the money aspect VM service hosting. I
invested heavily in this area and established business relationships that
while risky, were the right ones for my particular service offerings. I
saw continued growth through every quarter of each year I've been operating
the service. There are many other successes however, those are not as
important as the failures.

Let's cover some of the failures, the objective of any investment is to make a
return on that investment there are several ways to accomplish this, there
are also serveral risks associated with particular types of investments which
result in negative returns.

While I was aware of risk associated with each factor, I failed to appreciate
the costs associated with correcting what turned out to be bad decisions with
obvious consequences.

The primary failures are:

1. Failure to establish contractual relationships with vendors so that the
costs of service could be fixed for predetermined lengths of time.

2. Investing heavily in a large infrastructure with little or no control of
the auxiliary costs of the service infrastructure. (See #1)

3. Building and maintaining too much capacity for long periods of times before
I had the business to support the infrastructure so that I could get volume
pricing. The business eventually came, I had 200% growth in the first
quarter of this year. Which required additional expansion and capital
investment.

4. The decision not to pass increased costs onto existing subscribers and
carry them at a loss for long periods of time.

5. Failing to react in a timely manner to developments which threatened the
long-term viability of the service. (See #1-4)

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Lee Evans, Owner/Operator
LeeWare Development

zee999
08-06-2007, 12:54 AM
yep got a mail from paypal first

stroj
08-06-2007, 01:07 AM
interesting..

Skiz
08-06-2007, 01:10 AM
Do I foresee a price jump in both Leaseweb and Vectoral in the next day or two?

zee999
08-06-2007, 01:29 AM
Vectoral better not

anyone recomend me a seeder for usa please

Daniel
08-06-2007, 01:39 AM
Well, prior to the discontinuation of his services, the prize for his lowest entry product was up from 20 to 30 usd - 50 percent. I'm sure that part of his reasons are valid but an increase in prize that large smells like miscalculation. Either that or the possible revenues were too low - a fact that isn't surprising at all as value hosting tends to only produce a small margin of revenue.

I'm furthermore surprised that this was sent on such short notice, not even two full weeks to process everything.

Aside from my economical concerns/thoughts Leeware has been a very cheap solution to get their own seedboxes. I'm not all that knowledgeable with matters of VPS servers and their cost but Hosting-IE is probably the only cheap alternative left, isn't it? Most other stuff costs twice as much at least.

Doombringer
08-06-2007, 01:42 AM
I am sad :(

haydeno
08-06-2007, 02:32 AM
CUSTOMERS ON THE TZ SERIES OF VMS YOUR SERVICE WILL
CONTINUE AND YOU CAN IGNORE THIS NOTICE
The TZ line i think will not be closed. Appear to be better allthough more $$$(for similar specs its $35)
DualCore Dual Opteron 280
OpenVZ Based VM
RAM 256MB-Commit 512MB-Burst
HDD 20GB
RAID5 + HotSpares
100Mbps Unmetered Shared [1000GB]
1 IP Address (XIP Free with Justification)http://www.leeware.com/tz100.html
http://www.leeware.com/tz200.html
http://www.leeware.com/tz300.html

KFlint
08-06-2007, 02:35 AM
i don't think leaseweb and vectoral care at all about leeware businness...we are not talking of the same league at all

necromantic
08-06-2007, 02:42 AM
That really is too bad. I enjoyed my leeware box while I had it, no problems with the service whatsoever. Good value for the bandwidth too.

haydeno
08-06-2007, 04:36 AM
Is hosting-ie the same or better speed?

weenden
08-06-2007, 08:00 AM
man im ticked had a decently priced seedbox and wella its gone i need a reasonable replacement

GINZY
08-06-2007, 04:43 PM
so we can still use and order
http://www.leeware.com/tz100.html
http://www.leeware.com/tz200.html
http://www.leeware.com/tz300.html

so pay 10$ more. If not anyone know another good reasonable provider ?

haydeno
08-06-2007, 05:50 PM
so we can still use and order
http://www.leeware.com/tz100.html
http://www.leeware.com/tz200.html
http://www.leeware.com/tz300.html

so pay 10$ more. If not anyone know another good reasonable provider ?

Hosting-ie ?

Raptor+ 24 Euro for
Processor Power: 1,0 GHz
http://www.netclusive.de/images/haken.gif Memory: 512 MB RAM
http://www.netclusive.de/images/haken.gif 30.000 MB Webspace
http://www.netclusive.de/images/haken.gif Unlimited Traffic
http://www.netclusive.de/images/haken.gif Full Root Access
http://www.netclusive.de/images/haken.gif 100 mbit (Master Server) 5 users per server
100\5 = 20mbit per sec each?
OR
35 Euro for
Processor: 2.66 Mhz
http://www.netclusive.de/images/haken.gif Memory: 512 MB
http://www.netclusive.de/images/haken.gif 70 GB Webspace
http://www.netclusive.de/images/haken.gif Unlimited Traffic
http://www.netclusive.de/images/haken.gif Full Root Access
http://www.netclusive.de/images/haken.gif 2x100 mbit (Master Server) shared with 3 ppl

so 2x100 \3 =66mbps each?

InTooDeep
08-06-2007, 06:01 PM
Don't go with Hosting-IE, I learned that the hard way. Their service was so shitty that I had to cancel the contract. Better start looking for a different alternative...

Doombringer
08-06-2007, 06:23 PM
Well, any suggestions ?

haydeno
08-06-2007, 06:51 PM
I guess we live with tz200 then @ $35.

I have a question will dual dualcore(4 cores?) opteron +256 ram be better than 3500+ +384mb ram?

stroj
08-06-2007, 09:47 PM
No way iam gonna subscribe this dial-up among the seedboxes for next month, even more expensive.

pro267
08-06-2007, 11:57 PM
Very very sad day indeed.. :cry:
It's a shame Lee couldn't keep the business running. I'm also sorry for Lee, which I found to be very nice and helpful in any question I had.

Oh well, that's life I guess..

Durkslag
08-07-2007, 12:04 AM
I actually thought that he made a lot of money from this (at least I hoped so).
Sorry to hear this :(

GINZY
08-07-2007, 02:47 AM
hosting-ie require 3 month contract, what should we do if their speed suck during 3 months ? if no better alternative i think i go with tz200

haydeno
08-07-2007, 04:02 AM
hosting-ie require 3 month contract, what should we do if their speed suck during 3 months ? if no better alternative i think i go with tz200

Its 70 Euro for 3 months. If you are only sharing with 3 or 5ppl shouldnt speed be better than lee?

Doombringer
08-07-2007, 04:26 AM
what about this ?

http://www.dstinternet.com/vps-web-hosting.html

Saar
08-07-2007, 12:35 PM
what about this ?

http://www.dstinternet.com/vps-web-hosting.html

interesting.. any experience with this company?

mArs
08-07-2007, 12:37 PM
did any1 try giga international ? how are there speeds, service and do they close warez servers [ i mean do they check ?]

ibnahmed
08-07-2007, 08:12 PM
good bye lee, really shocked.

Salvia
08-07-2007, 08:24 PM
good bye lee, really shocked.

why shocked? what he was doing was risky and apparently he wasent making enough money for it to be worth it to him anymore

bfarmer
09-16-2007, 04:40 AM
what about this ?

http://www.dstinternet.com/vps-web-hosting.html

interesting.. any experience with this company?

They are terrible! Lost my websites for over a month (8/9/07 to 9/15/07), wouldn't let me transfer my domain nor would they restore my hosting account. I finally complained long enough that they finally released my domain and refunded a small part of my money.